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Not impressed with russia being said to be number 2 military on this planet

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Russia is not number 2

Without nukes this country would be useless against america or top european powers

One on one america would destroy russia in a non nuke war

One on one france would destroy russia in a non nuke war

one on one uk would destroy russia in a non nuke war

I think even germany would destroy russia one on one non nukes

Russia is so bad at this war against ukraine. All their fuel trucks getting hit by drones, bad logistics, they don't even have a secure communication line.

All the ukrainians got to do is get satellite intel from the americans and they know where to strike.
 
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The average Russian soldier is almost on par with the average American soldier in terms of training and competency. But since the US military went full blown SJW faggot, Russia might have a slight edge soldier for soldier.
 
The average Russian soldier is almost on par with the average American soldier in terms of training and competency. But since the US military went full blown SJW faggot, Russia might have a slight edge soldier for soldier.

America got the money, equipment and logistics down though
 
America got the money, equipment and logistics down though
That is true, although we haven't yet seen what Russia is willing to fully commit to this war in terms of technology and support. They will up the ante on their war effort, if they meet a conventional military match. It's not wise to blow your load early and expose your hand in the game.
 
That is true, although we haven't yet seen what Russia is willing to fully commit to this war in terms of technology and support. They will up the ante on their war effort, if they meet a conventional military match. It's not wise to blow your load early and expose your hand in the game.

Russian tech is pretty trash though
 
They also lost in Afghanistan when they were still the Soviet Union and invested more in their armed forces and had a higher military budget kek. But US also lost in Vietnam so it's a tie.
 
My rankings:

1.) USA
2.) China
3.) Iran
4.) Russia
 
America got the money, equipment and logistics down though
there you go

That is true, although we haven't yet seen what Russia is willing to fully commit to this war in terms of technology and support. They will up the ante on their war effort, if they meet a conventional military match. It's not wise to blow your load early and expose your hand in the game.
This. Russia has been treating Ukraine with kid gloves, tbh. They will certainly up the ante, and if you read about the Chechen Wars, the war in Georgia, and the war in Afghanistan, it ain't pretty
 
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This. Russia has been treating Ukraine with kid gloves, tbh. They will certainly up the ante, and if you read about the Chechen Wars, the war in Georgia, and the war in Afghanistan, it ain't pretty

From what I read in the chechen wars they just destroyed the cities against a breakaway state who didn't have an airforce.
 
Russian tech is pretty trash though
Bro, you're quite clueless tbhngldedsrs. Russian military tech is all built in-house with state-owned (some partially and some fully) and is state of the art wrt modern military standards.

I don't know where you got this harebrained idea that Russian tech is trash. KEK
 
Are you kidding me? Russia is the #1.

American military has been reduced to faggots, vaxed-faggots, and low lives.
 
Bro, you're quite clueless tbhngldedsrs. Russian military tech is all built in-house with state-owned (some partially and some fully) and is state of the art wrt modern military standards.

I don't know where you got this harebrained idea that Russian tech is trash. KEK

Russian military tech is trash. Everyone knows this. Western tech is far superior.
 
Even we struggled with farmers and goat herders but the US is the strongest nation on earth. The UK and France couldn’t even take Libya on without the US’ help so to think they’d beat Russia 1:1 is laughable. Germany hasn’t done anything of note militaristic wise to even be in the convo.

Sure they haven’t pulled a Netherlands blitzkreig in Ukraine, but you’re unironically falling for Ukrainian propaganda. We only read unverified claims of Russians getting wrecked, only see footage from multiple angles of alleged Russian forces being wiped out, and yet Ukraine is already willing to make concessions on NATO, Crimea, and the separatist regions. It’s clear things aren’t going as swimmingly as we are being fed or else Ukraine would just push them out.

I don’t really care for Slavic nations or their squabbles, besides the fact that economic collapse is imminent as a result of this war, however, I don’t like being purposefully misled, which is exactly what the media has been doing the past few weeks
 
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They also lost in Afghanistan when they were still the Soviet Union and invested more in their armed forces and had a higher military budget kek. But US also lost in Vietnam so it's a tie.
Neither military lost on the battlefield.
 
Russia is being slow at this war because they are trying to avoid civilian casualties. When Americans invade, they just bomb countries into the stone age.
 
Russia is not number 2

Without nukes this country would be useless against america or top european powers

One on one america would destroy russia in a non nuke war

One on one france would destroy russia in a non nuke war

one on one uk would destroy russia in a non nuke war

I think even germany would destroy russia one on one non nukes

Russia is so bad at this war against ukraine. All their fuel trucks getting hit by drones, bad logistics, they don't even have a secure communication line.

All the ukrainians got to do is get satellite intel from the americans and they know where to strike.
indeed they are doing shit. Legit pathetic. Putin has let too many corrupt incompetent trash run the show.
 
Russian military tech is trash. Everyone knows this. Western tech is far superior.
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They're the second largest exporter of weapons worldwide to all countries, with America being the largest. The entire world uses mostly American and Russian military hardware. The UK, France, Germany, Israel and China are the only other countries who manufacture their own arms, but even China buys a large amount of weapons from Russia.

Russian aircrafts and fighter jets account for nearly half of all of their military hardware exports. Let's not forget that the AK-47 is the staple of soldiers in practically every corner of the globe. That gun was engineered in 1947 and is still heavily used today for its reliability and effectiveness. Russians, like Germans, know their science and engineering.

On the battlefield, I'd take an AK rifle variant over an M4 variant any day of the week. Their grenades, rocket launchers, howitzers, and other gear are mostly equivalent.
 
We only read unverified claims of Russians getting wrecked, only see footage from multiple angles of alleged Russian forces being wiped out, and yet Ukraine is already willing to make concessions on NATO, Crimea, and the separatist regions. It’s clear things aren’t going as swimmingly as we are being fed or else Ukraine would just push them out.
Facts always speak for themselves, but people are falling for all of the flashy headlines and social media memes, because it's more emotional, feel-good, and Hollywood-like
 
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They're the second largest exporter of weapons worldwide to all countries, with America being the largest. The entire world uses mostly American and Russian military hardware. The UK, France, Germany, Israel and China are the only other countries who manufacture their own arms, but even China buys a large amount of weapons from Russia.

Russian aircrafts and fighter jets account for nearly half of all of their military hardware exports. Let's not forget that the AK-47 is the staple of soldiers in practically every corner of the globe. That gun was engineered in 1947 and is still heavily used today for its reliability and effectiveness. Russians, like Germans, know their science and engineering.

On the battlefield, I'd take an AK rifle variant over an M4 variant any day of the week. Their grenades, rocket launchers, howitzers, and other gear are mostly equivalent.

They're second largest cause they sell their weapons to countries that are not american allies like china.

China would buy american weapons if they sold it.

Russian military jets are trash compared to western tech. Egypt saw this and I quote "Reports of training exercises between Egyptian fighter jets of the Russian Su-35 and the French-made Rafale noted that during the training exercise, the Russian plane played the role of aggressor, attacking the French jet. But the Rafale jammed the second's radar, easily tracked down the enemy and conditionally “shot it down.”
 
Russian military jets are trash compared to western tech. Egypt saw this and I quote "Reports of training exercises between Egyptian fighter jets of the Russian Su-35 and the French-made Rafale noted that during the training exercise, the Russian plane played the role of aggressor, attacking the French jet. But the Rafale jammed the second's radar, easily tracked down the enemy and conditionally “shot it down.”
Interesting. You're talking about this?

 
poverty and lower social class in russia builds really savage ppl
 
Interesting. You're talking about this?


Yes and as you can see russian jets are overhyped.
 
Our ground forces are a joke. Low moral, bunch of beta faggot vaxxed solders fighting for jews
 
just lol @ niggas being amazed a country of 40 million people, almost 300,000 square miles, isn't conquered in a week. Like bro, war doesn't work that way LMAO. This shit takes time to do right and get troops & supplies in place
 
just lol @ niggas being amazed a country of 40 million people, almost 300,000 square miles, isn't conquered in a week. Like bro, war doesn't work that way LMAO. This shit takes time to do right and get troops & supplies in place
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just lol @ niggas being amazed a country of 40 million people, almost 300,000 square miles, isn't conquered in a week. Like bro, war doesn't work that way LMAO. This shit takes time to do right and get troops & supplies in place

Ya its the scale of the Ukraine that a lot of people don't appreciate. And the way the population and big cities are near perfectly spread out, and there will be endless villages, towns and small cities throughout it. With roads going everywhere.
 
Ya its the scale of the Ukraine that a lot of people don't appreciate. And the way the population and big cities are near perfectly spread out, and there will be endless villages, towns and small cities throughout it. With roads going everywhere.
niggas think it would be like america invading iraq shock and awe lol, russia only has 3x the population of ukraine and only a slight technological advantage, plus they want to preserve the infrastructure and such in case they annex land, war goes much faster if factories, airstrips, power plants etc are out of the picture :feelsstudy:
 
niggas think it would be like america invading iraq shock and awe lol, russia only has 3x the population of ukraine and only a slight technological advantage, plus they want to preserve the infrastructure and such in case they annex land, war goes much faster if factories, airstrips, power plants etc are out of the picture :feelsstudy:

Ya Iraq had the Kurdish people in the north, and Arab Shia Muslims in the South who were overall favorable to the American takeover. And Iraq's population seemed more concentrated like with a lot of Iraq being nearly uninhabited. Back then Iraq's population was also like 25 million or so.

Then like you said America had a huge technological advantage.

Thinking about it Iraq did have a couple things that could make it hard. Arabs seem very willing to fight hard and Iraq was extreme heavily militarized with trained soldiers. And like in the Ukraine groups in Iraq were able to get weapons flowing in plus having mountains of stockpiles to start with.

And like you said even wit all that the US army didn't just take Iraq in a week. It went on for awhile. Like if even a small city is resisting its slow.
 
The average Russian soldier is almost on par with the average American soldier in terms of training and competency. But since the US military went full blown SJW faggot, Russia might have a slight edge soldier for soldier.

absolutely not. The average russian infantry man is a draftee that has only the sufferings of dedovshina and the drive to fulfil his basic needs in mind, dreaming of the day that he can finally be relieved from the hellhole that is the service in the russian armed forces.

This 18 year old oleg is getting jack shit for his service, is there soley because he wasnt smart/wealthy enough to dodge the draft and unmotivated to go die for his asshole superiors which dont see him more than expendable rifle carrying sack of meat and bone.

His actual exercises will be limited due to the budget being stolen on the way down by corrupt supervisors, and unlike the professional contract minority(, he will not enjoy modern equipment, resorting to the same nineties reserves in conservation storage.

[UWSL]The vast bulk of Russian army is draft and reserve based.[/UWSL]

the average US infantry man is contracted and voluntary drafted. While the quality of recruits have dropped for the past several decades, he will still be more motivated and recieve much more budget wise on individual level drills while maintaining a stable kit of modern equipment and proficiency of using modern electronic battlefield communications and assessment tools.

As for beyond individual soldier I will present just some short facts about what happed to the Russian armed forces in terms of organisation, cooperation, and operational capacity during the invasion of Ukraine :

Russian airforce failed to achieve complete air dominance. More than two weeks in, turkish UCAVs are still flown by ukraine to strike russian supply collumns.

Russian air defence fails to provide adequate coverage for ground forces.

Russian air force does not operate frontline aviation due to pilots inexperience and lack of functioning cooperation channels to provide accurate close air support with command being wary of blue on blue casualties.

Russian mechanised battalion groups dash has been poorly coordinated, causing terrible congestion at critical choke points.

Russian logistic supply has not been able to keep up with a modern mechanised unit advance, resulting in a plethora of abandoned vehicles due to lack of gasoline or spare parts/repair facilities.

Russian logistic supply has not been properly secured. Many convoys are being ambushed and destroyed.


Russian communications have been unencrypted and opened to tapping by as much as local civilians. Russian army enters the 21st century battlefield with 20th century COMSEC.

Russian airborne units being dropped on objectives without subsequent conventional force being able to arrive and reinforce them in a timely manner, leaving to high casualty rates. Poor coordination.

Russian air brigades and light recon units attempting assault of urban areas without armored support, naturally taking high casualties.

Russian armoured units probing urban areas without any infantry cover and paying for it in extra burning tanks. Both of these further suggesting poor combined arms performance.

Several high profile staff casualties suggest poor HQ security and intelligence loss leaving vulnerable to spec ops kill teams.


The conflict in Ukraine has unveiled a lot of unpleasant realities about the readiness state of the Russian armed forces. It has a lot of bitter lessons to catch up to, and rapid adjustments to make for which im afraid it has no time or funds(of what remains after the defence budget is being shaved off by corruption).
 
absolutely not. The average russian infantry man is a draftee that has only the sufferings of dedovshina and the drive to fulfil his basic needs in mind, dreaming of the day that he can finally be relieved from the hellhole that is the service in the russian armed forces.

This 18 year old oleg is getting jack shit for his service, is there soley because he wasnt smart/wealthy enough to dodge the draft and unmotivated to go die for his asshole superiors which dont see him more than expendable rifle carrying sack of meat and bone.

His actual exercises will be limited due to the budget being stolen on the way down by corrupt supervisors, and unlike the professional contract minority(, he will not enjoy modern equipment, resorting to the same nineties reserves in conservation storage.

[UWSL]The vast bulk of Russian army is draft and reserve based.[/UWSL]

the average US infantry man is contracted and voluntary drafted. While the quality of recruits have dropped for the past several decades, he will still be more motivated and recieve much more budget wise on individual level drills while maintaining a stable kit of modern equipment and proficiency of using modern electronic battlefield communications and assessment tools.

As for beyond individual soldier I will present just some short facts about what happed to the Russian armed forces in terms of organisation, cooperation, and operational capacity during the invasion of Ukraine :

Russian airforce failed to achieve complete air dominance. More than two weeks in, turkish UCAVs are still flown by ukraine to strike russian supply collumns.

Russian air defence fails to provide adequate coverage for ground forces.

Russian air force does not operate frontline aviation due to pilots inexperience and lack of functioning cooperation channels to provide accurate close air support with command being wary of blue on blue casualties.

Russian mechanised battalion groups dash has been poorly coordinated, causing terrible congestion at critical choke points.

Russian logistic supply has not been able to keep up with a modern mechanised unit advance, resulting in a plethora of abandoned vehicles due to lack of gasoline or spare parts/repair facilities.

Russian logistic supply has not been properly secured. Many convoys are being ambushed and destroyed.


Russian communications have been unencrypted and opened to tapping by as much as local civilians. Russian army enters the 21st century battlefield with 20th century COMSEC.

Russian airborne units being dropped on objectives without subsequent conventional force being able to arrive and reinforce them in a timely manner, leaving to high casualty rates. Poor coordination.

Russian air brigades and light recon units attempting assault of urban areas without armored support, naturally taking high casualties.

Russian armoured units probing urban areas without any infantry cover and paying for it in extra burning tanks. Both of these further suggesting poor combined arms performance.

Several high profile staff casualties suggest poor HQ security and intelligence loss leaving vulnerable to spec ops kill teams.


The conflict in Ukraine has unveiled a lot of unpleasant realities about the readiness state of the Russian armed forces. It has a lot of bitter lessons to catch up to, and rapid adjustments to make for which im afraid it has no time or funds(of what remains after the defence budget is being shaved off by corruption).
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your take on this. I didn't realize the frontline situation was this troubling for the Russians.
 
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your take on this. I didn't realize the frontline situation was this troubling for the Russians.
Here is a pretty informative thread that goes as the conflict develops. Might be a bit too much with reaching the 200 page count now, but will give you as good of an insight into how the Russian army fares in this(as far as can be said in real time with the information war/fog of war/etc…)

 

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