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This is my personal ramblings, it is not based on anything academic or scientific, just my thoughts.
In my view we can generally be divided into three stages of history (or really three different currently coexisting mindsets, the stages of history simply being when they were predominant).
The pre rational
this is before humans were taught to rationalize anything, before materialism existed (or at least was wide spread). Think of how in ancient Germania when they learned a tribesman was homosexual it was policy to kill them and throw them in a swamp.
The pre rational stage was best exemplified by idea that everything "simply was". And it worked. Women belonged to the men simply because that was how things worked with women being weaker. The King owned the Realm simply because he was "ordained by God", he just was. The church was the true faith simply because it was, you could not question this and did not question this. Heretics were to be killed, there was no protest for women's rights, outsiders like Muslims were the enemy, criminals would be punished with the most severity of the law. And things simply were this way for a long time, without much question or protest, things simply were.
I think the mindset behind this is simply to take things as they are, you see women are weaker and dumber than men and so they are, no question about the morality or science of their inferiority, you saw it and so it was true. There was no question of if the gates should be opened for the Muslims, they behaved like enemies so they simply were, you just took them for what you see. And things worked.
Even post enlightenment this mindset prevailed. Think of how in early America we would tried women for witchcraft simply because we did (and it worked, now our country is full of crazy bitches because we stopped), we executed people with mock trial simply for stealing horses, we conquered the red indians and called them savages simply because.....THEY WERE. We did what felt right to us, whatever we felt we should do, we did. The pre rational mindset believed in conquest and dominance simply because that was what was good for us, it's what we liked. Including racism. The races were segregated because we felt they should be, race mixing was banned because we felt it should be, nonwhite immigration was limited because we felt it should be, interracial crime was punished with lynchings because we felt like doing that. People functioned off of instincts and it worked well, this can be understood in hindsight as all of this behavior has ceased and along with it comes the subjugation of our race where we will now become a minority in our own countries. The white race is dying because of rationalism.
The rational
I believe that this is the stage where everything went wrong. Think of the boomer individualist and anti racist mindset. "Why should we be racist? Everyone's an individual!" "Why should we win? Doesn't that mean we make our enemies lose?" "Why should we preserve our nation, heritage, or race? Those are just ideas!" And with this mindset we have fallen. People were forced to rationalize and question every single basic human instinct they had. To bargain with themselves about what they see and think. "Okay black people are stabbing and robbing white people, but it's not all of them! Or, what if it's just socioeconomic factors?" "Okay immigrants are burning our cities down and fighting law enforcement, but we all bleed red!" "Is there any evidence that God exist? We are all just specs of dust floating in space!" It came with the rejection of ones own eyes or and instincts. Before rationalism we saw that blacks were stupid and violent and so they were kept separate from us, nowadays we see blacks are still stupid and violent and we are told to rationalize it. To claim even that "race doesn't exist" "genetics isn't real!" As if two black parents will ever pop out an east Asian baby, as if race is "just the color of our skin!" Despite the clear behavioral differences we observe.
99% of our ancestors were portrayed as stupid unenlightened bigots while we are the far more intelligent rational beings, despite the fact that they built paradise and we let it be torn apart in the name of mental masturbation, we sacrificed what the irrational mind built on our altar of diversity.
In essence, what was once accepted as simple truth such as "women are inferior" "blacks are violent" "Gays are disgusting" because it was plainly observed with the eyes and felt in the emotion, now required some sort of scientific or material evidence beyond easily observable reality in order to be considered true, which of course the (((establishment))) would now provide. And so everything that is true was called lies, and this is the era rationality. Examples of detrimental effects of rationality would be the acceptance of sexual degeneracy like transgenderism, incest, whoring, homosexuality, and race mixing. All of these would simply be dismissed as "gross" by pre rational men and their actors would be executed with extreme prejudice, it did not require reasoning because we simply didn't like it. Now in the rational world we are told about race mixing, homosexuality, and incest "as long as it doesn't hurt anybody!" Or "it's two consenting adults!" And with this rationality we are not allowed to punish societally and spiritually destructive behavior. Now our children are being castrated against the will of their father, and homosexuals are adopting little boys to molest them.
Post rational
This is the end result of the rational mindset, what it truly leads to. If the rational mindset was "why can't we be friends" boomers, the post rational mindset is blue haired feminist dykes and BLM. The post rational mindset is, similar to the pre rational mindset, completely irrational. It is just flipped on its head. The instincts have been reversed. To hate your own family, to hate your own nation, to hate your own race, to hate your own history. It is the suicide cult of wanting to lose, it is the antifa faggots who celebrate when a officer is killed, it's a millennial racecucks who cheer when a white man is beaten by a horde of nigger chimps for being "racist". This is the current state of the world. Examples of things springing from this are the kill all men movement, the "nihilist" who still scream and cry when you say the n word, the anti straights who call us "straggots". We have all seen them, "woke" or whatever you want to call it. They are the deformed bastard child of the rational mind, it's only possible conclusion. When we introduced the idea that everyone must be allowed to do as they please, that everyone can think whatever they want, that we must have an open marketplace of ideas, this is what it leads to.
The very idea that there would be fags calling for the death of all straight people, or women calling for the death of all men, was simply an unthinkable idea in the past. If you time traveled backward and tried to warn them, nobody would believe you.
Because these post rational ideas are completely irrational, just like the pre rational ideas. But instead of arriving from our simple instincts, they are the opposite, they are simply the natural order flipped on its head.
Conclusion
I would say that the pre rational mindset can today be characterized by Fascism, an attempted return to our past ideals of the tribe and conqueror. We will hate faggots simply because they disgust us, we will dominate women simply because they are weaker, we will drive out the foreigner simply because they are not us and are dangerous to our kin. No rationality is needed for this, although in today's world it must usually be provided anyways in order to break the Jewish mind spell.
The rational mindset is of course libertarianism and soft liberalism, and the post rational being the far left and extreme woke. Religiously I would say the pre rational is old paganism or Christian literalsim, the rational is agnosticism or soft Christianity, and the post rational is nihilism or new age wicca/crystal girls.
The reason I thought of this understanding is because this does seem to be the order of these ideologies summed up, though you can say the true pre rational ideology was absolute monarchist feudalism instead of fascism, fascism is an attempted return to the pre rational ideals and is the only realistic way to return to them. It does not always have to question, you can simply believe. Like with the occultism, or the traditional Christian theocracy, or with conspiracy theories or bigotry. You can call them crazy or simply untrue, but they are how the world worked for a long time and men were much better off this way.
In conclusion I think that rationalism was a mistake. We do not have to justify what we know to ourselves. When English people walk around London and see Muslims and niggers stabbing people, selling drugs, mass robbery, when they say they hate white people and want sharia law or revenge for colonialism. We do not have to bargain with ourselves if we are allowed to hate them or can kick them out. We should not be required to come up with scientific evidence as proof we are allowed to fight back. We simply should. We should do whatever our instincts tell us. And the human instinct is tribalism, is to defend your clan from the outsider.
Those who hate us will use the rational mind against us in their arguments. "What's your scientific evidence Muslim immigrants are more violent? You can't use anecdotes!". What they are really doing is telling us to deny the evidence of our own eyes and ears, to only use "rationality". To debate against ourselves our right to behave as we want.
"Why shouldn't our race go extinct? Who cares?" Was something a white person in the 1700s never thought of. They conquered the frontier because they knew it was right, because they felt like they should, and it worked out very well for them. They made prosperity and built the country they live in, they won because they allowed themselves to.
I first thought of this blah blah blah long ass explanation to the world when I was reading "templars of the proletariat" by dugin, where he sort of touched on these ideas. I thought it was a very interesting book.
I disagree with the idea that "men are rational" and "women are irrational". I think that was propaganda designed to destroy us while appealing to our language. "Look how superior you are to women! Like by being stronger than them, by being wiser than them, and by.....letting your country be raped in the name of rationality?" Those cuck generations of course would fall for this shit. It's garbage propaganda. Irrationality is actually masculine, it's the noble barbarian that conquers his enemy because he feels it is right, the viking that plunders the foreign land because he does not need to rationalize his behavior as "moral or fair". A man should not think about such things, empathizing with the out group is for the feminine. Rationality is a weakness for the race.
Tldr:
fuck faggots for making all these rationalist arguments. "Why is homo shit asshole sex wrong? It's two consenting adults!" "How is incest wrong? It doesn't hurt anybody!" "Why is transgenderism bad? It doesn't effect you!" "Why do you care about race mixing? Mind your own business!"
You can debate if they are correct or not but my point is that we shouldn't have to be "correct". We should simply enforce our instincts into will because we want to. Because that is what worked for us and when we lost
this, everything went to shit. Faggots are gross so we should ban it in essence, and with this mindset everything can be good again.
In my view we can generally be divided into three stages of history (or really three different currently coexisting mindsets, the stages of history simply being when they were predominant).
The pre rational
this is before humans were taught to rationalize anything, before materialism existed (or at least was wide spread). Think of how in ancient Germania when they learned a tribesman was homosexual it was policy to kill them and throw them in a swamp.
The pre rational stage was best exemplified by idea that everything "simply was". And it worked. Women belonged to the men simply because that was how things worked with women being weaker. The King owned the Realm simply because he was "ordained by God", he just was. The church was the true faith simply because it was, you could not question this and did not question this. Heretics were to be killed, there was no protest for women's rights, outsiders like Muslims were the enemy, criminals would be punished with the most severity of the law. And things simply were this way for a long time, without much question or protest, things simply were.
I think the mindset behind this is simply to take things as they are, you see women are weaker and dumber than men and so they are, no question about the morality or science of their inferiority, you saw it and so it was true. There was no question of if the gates should be opened for the Muslims, they behaved like enemies so they simply were, you just took them for what you see. And things worked.
Even post enlightenment this mindset prevailed. Think of how in early America we would tried women for witchcraft simply because we did (and it worked, now our country is full of crazy bitches because we stopped), we executed people with mock trial simply for stealing horses, we conquered the red indians and called them savages simply because.....THEY WERE. We did what felt right to us, whatever we felt we should do, we did. The pre rational mindset believed in conquest and dominance simply because that was what was good for us, it's what we liked. Including racism. The races were segregated because we felt they should be, race mixing was banned because we felt it should be, nonwhite immigration was limited because we felt it should be, interracial crime was punished with lynchings because we felt like doing that. People functioned off of instincts and it worked well, this can be understood in hindsight as all of this behavior has ceased and along with it comes the subjugation of our race where we will now become a minority in our own countries. The white race is dying because of rationalism.
The rational
I believe that this is the stage where everything went wrong. Think of the boomer individualist and anti racist mindset. "Why should we be racist? Everyone's an individual!" "Why should we win? Doesn't that mean we make our enemies lose?" "Why should we preserve our nation, heritage, or race? Those are just ideas!" And with this mindset we have fallen. People were forced to rationalize and question every single basic human instinct they had. To bargain with themselves about what they see and think. "Okay black people are stabbing and robbing white people, but it's not all of them! Or, what if it's just socioeconomic factors?" "Okay immigrants are burning our cities down and fighting law enforcement, but we all bleed red!" "Is there any evidence that God exist? We are all just specs of dust floating in space!" It came with the rejection of ones own eyes or and instincts. Before rationalism we saw that blacks were stupid and violent and so they were kept separate from us, nowadays we see blacks are still stupid and violent and we are told to rationalize it. To claim even that "race doesn't exist" "genetics isn't real!" As if two black parents will ever pop out an east Asian baby, as if race is "just the color of our skin!" Despite the clear behavioral differences we observe.
99% of our ancestors were portrayed as stupid unenlightened bigots while we are the far more intelligent rational beings, despite the fact that they built paradise and we let it be torn apart in the name of mental masturbation, we sacrificed what the irrational mind built on our altar of diversity.
In essence, what was once accepted as simple truth such as "women are inferior" "blacks are violent" "Gays are disgusting" because it was plainly observed with the eyes and felt in the emotion, now required some sort of scientific or material evidence beyond easily observable reality in order to be considered true, which of course the (((establishment))) would now provide. And so everything that is true was called lies, and this is the era rationality. Examples of detrimental effects of rationality would be the acceptance of sexual degeneracy like transgenderism, incest, whoring, homosexuality, and race mixing. All of these would simply be dismissed as "gross" by pre rational men and their actors would be executed with extreme prejudice, it did not require reasoning because we simply didn't like it. Now in the rational world we are told about race mixing, homosexuality, and incest "as long as it doesn't hurt anybody!" Or "it's two consenting adults!" And with this rationality we are not allowed to punish societally and spiritually destructive behavior. Now our children are being castrated against the will of their father, and homosexuals are adopting little boys to molest them.
Post rational
This is the end result of the rational mindset, what it truly leads to. If the rational mindset was "why can't we be friends" boomers, the post rational mindset is blue haired feminist dykes and BLM. The post rational mindset is, similar to the pre rational mindset, completely irrational. It is just flipped on its head. The instincts have been reversed. To hate your own family, to hate your own nation, to hate your own race, to hate your own history. It is the suicide cult of wanting to lose, it is the antifa faggots who celebrate when a officer is killed, it's a millennial racecucks who cheer when a white man is beaten by a horde of nigger chimps for being "racist". This is the current state of the world. Examples of things springing from this are the kill all men movement, the "nihilist" who still scream and cry when you say the n word, the anti straights who call us "straggots". We have all seen them, "woke" or whatever you want to call it. They are the deformed bastard child of the rational mind, it's only possible conclusion. When we introduced the idea that everyone must be allowed to do as they please, that everyone can think whatever they want, that we must have an open marketplace of ideas, this is what it leads to.
The very idea that there would be fags calling for the death of all straight people, or women calling for the death of all men, was simply an unthinkable idea in the past. If you time traveled backward and tried to warn them, nobody would believe you.
Because these post rational ideas are completely irrational, just like the pre rational ideas. But instead of arriving from our simple instincts, they are the opposite, they are simply the natural order flipped on its head.
Conclusion
I would say that the pre rational mindset can today be characterized by Fascism, an attempted return to our past ideals of the tribe and conqueror. We will hate faggots simply because they disgust us, we will dominate women simply because they are weaker, we will drive out the foreigner simply because they are not us and are dangerous to our kin. No rationality is needed for this, although in today's world it must usually be provided anyways in order to break the Jewish mind spell.
The rational mindset is of course libertarianism and soft liberalism, and the post rational being the far left and extreme woke. Religiously I would say the pre rational is old paganism or Christian literalsim, the rational is agnosticism or soft Christianity, and the post rational is nihilism or new age wicca/crystal girls.
The reason I thought of this understanding is because this does seem to be the order of these ideologies summed up, though you can say the true pre rational ideology was absolute monarchist feudalism instead of fascism, fascism is an attempted return to the pre rational ideals and is the only realistic way to return to them. It does not always have to question, you can simply believe. Like with the occultism, or the traditional Christian theocracy, or with conspiracy theories or bigotry. You can call them crazy or simply untrue, but they are how the world worked for a long time and men were much better off this way.
In conclusion I think that rationalism was a mistake. We do not have to justify what we know to ourselves. When English people walk around London and see Muslims and niggers stabbing people, selling drugs, mass robbery, when they say they hate white people and want sharia law or revenge for colonialism. We do not have to bargain with ourselves if we are allowed to hate them or can kick them out. We should not be required to come up with scientific evidence as proof we are allowed to fight back. We simply should. We should do whatever our instincts tell us. And the human instinct is tribalism, is to defend your clan from the outsider.
Those who hate us will use the rational mind against us in their arguments. "What's your scientific evidence Muslim immigrants are more violent? You can't use anecdotes!". What they are really doing is telling us to deny the evidence of our own eyes and ears, to only use "rationality". To debate against ourselves our right to behave as we want.
"Why shouldn't our race go extinct? Who cares?" Was something a white person in the 1700s never thought of. They conquered the frontier because they knew it was right, because they felt like they should, and it worked out very well for them. They made prosperity and built the country they live in, they won because they allowed themselves to.
I first thought of this blah blah blah long ass explanation to the world when I was reading "templars of the proletariat" by dugin, where he sort of touched on these ideas. I thought it was a very interesting book.
I disagree with the idea that "men are rational" and "women are irrational". I think that was propaganda designed to destroy us while appealing to our language. "Look how superior you are to women! Like by being stronger than them, by being wiser than them, and by.....letting your country be raped in the name of rationality?" Those cuck generations of course would fall for this shit. It's garbage propaganda. Irrationality is actually masculine, it's the noble barbarian that conquers his enemy because he feels it is right, the viking that plunders the foreign land because he does not need to rationalize his behavior as "moral or fair". A man should not think about such things, empathizing with the out group is for the feminine. Rationality is a weakness for the race.
Tldr:
fuck faggots for making all these rationalist arguments. "Why is homo shit asshole sex wrong? It's two consenting adults!" "How is incest wrong? It doesn't hurt anybody!" "Why is transgenderism bad? It doesn't effect you!" "Why do you care about race mixing? Mind your own business!"
You can debate if they are correct or not but my point is that we shouldn't have to be "correct". We should simply enforce our instincts into will because we want to. Because that is what worked for us and when we lost
this, everything went to shit. Faggots are gross so we should ban it in essence, and with this mindset everything can be good again.
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