A political solution to America

[Deleted Member 8090]

This is my personal plan for how America could be fixed. Feel free to disagree.

A. The removal of left forces
The most important and immediate issue is the opposition coalition to the right, created and led by Jews and of course made up of immigrants, communists, blacks, and queers. In order to solve this we would have to:

-Ban all Jews and Muslims from american soil. Seize all Jewish assets (blackrock, Blackstone, rothschilds wealth, exc) in order to pay our national debt and deport them all back to the middle east (which would immediately solve the issue of foreign lobbying and AIPAC)

-Illegalize lgtbqia+ entirely, along with dismantling all its organizations and arresting those behind them. One solution would be to send all queers to a isolated city somewhere in Utah which is for queers only, has no global internet access, and they are never allowed to leave. Almost like a holding camp, but they can live and work there as any other citizen. Then they will not infest our public life or the Internet.

-mass deportations of immigrants, prioritizing the deportations based on a few things.
A. Crime rates of origin country, for example Haitians would be high deportation priority because of their high crime rate
B. Crime within America, any immigrant who commits a crime of any sort should be immediately deported
C. Protest and disruption, any immigrant anti ice protestor should be deported
The end goal would be to make America at least 90% white, I'm not sure how long that would take

-segregation of whites and non-whites. Blacks will have their own sections in areas where they are the majority, blacks outside those zones will be deported into them, they will need clearance to leave these areas unless simply flying to a different zone. They could have a separate governing system from America with their own voting and own representatives, so they cannot affect the lives of white americans. This solution I am least sure about. Other solutions may be to simply bring freedom of association back and illegalize anti white speech, which may make negros not an issue anyways.

-an end to free speech. Anti American activities such as supporting communism, anti white hatred, feminism, lgbt, exc will all be criminal. Think what Europe does to right wingers except we do it against leftist instead. Though we would need to be much harsher, giving death penalty or simply deporting everyone in leadership behind antifa, communist organizations, BLM, exc.

B. Solving inceldom
This is actually the hardest thing to solve, since it's a very natural phenomenon. My solution would be:

-put a high tax rate on female income, making it impossible for them to earn enough to be independent from men (I've heard some people say a 100% tax rate, maybe that could work)

-ban females from colleges. Simple as.

-erase the idea of marital rape. Wives are supposed to have sex with their husbands, marital rape should not be a crime.

I'd like to hear anyone else's solutions to this. Maybe arranged marriage programs. I'm trying to think what realistically the far right could do if they got into power, so "chain up women and make them cattle" probably isn't realistic.

C. Eugenics
I have a feeling most people here will disagree with my solution, but this is what I am thinking:

-americans with the best genetics (higher IQ, taller, blonde hair, blue eyes exc) will be given a program where their entire job is simply to produce more children with their genetics. They will be paid to procreate, similar to how retarded negroes are paid welfare to pop out babies, but this would be more sophisticated and purposeful.

-we will simultaneously discourage Americans with bad genetics from procreating, especially the females with bad genetics. They will get payments to become sterilized and infertile, and a high tax will be imposed on them for having any children.

-now the children produced by the eugenics program can be adopted by the childless dysgenic couples, they will be given state welfare in return for adopting these children in order to help them financially in raising the future Aryan generation.

-All racemixing will be illegal, any inheritable disability will require sterilization

D. Economy
Having removed the Jews and the immigrants, the economy will be much less of an issue. It should be simple to fix:

-end all foreign aid. No more America paying for the third world to mass produce more nonwhite children that becomes immigrants. American money is for Americans.

-we will in turn keep welfare for white Americans, even the dysgenic ones, considering that a large amount of dysgenic people won't even exist in the future generations (incels deserve neetbux)

-try to re industrialize America, stop us from relying on communist China for all of our goods, put American businesses first in the governments eyes

E. Raising future America
The question then is how must Americans be in the future? We must do a few things to promote their health:

-end all poisonous additives in our food production, so that Americans may be healthy. Our food and water must be cleaned of ZOGbot slop.

-Promote fitness of all sorts. Weightlifting and calisthenics will be made mandatory for schools and maybe even colleges, and will be promoted heavily in the media

-overhaul the education system to promote white and American identity. (Teach how the first native Americans were white, how the north African slavery of whites lasted longer and was larger in number than the transatlantic slave trade, that Jews ran the transatlantic slave trade, that red indians and subsaharan Africans were poor violent savages before colonization, exc)

-consistently remind everyone of how things were before the right wing took charge (anti white propaganda in media, over 20x higher black on white crime rate than white on black, repeat offender criminals being released after torturing, raping, murdering white children, exc)

This is all I can think of for now, I'm sure there's a lot more. Inb4 "politics is cope everyone should die!" Yeah go fuck yourself faggot, not everyone is a retarded Satanist who gets anal raped by dogs

 

[Emba]

You're hired!

When can you start?

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

You're hired!

When can you start?

I don't wanna start, you can do it

 

[readingcel]

I'd like to hear anyone else's solutions to this. Maybe arranged marriage programs. I'm trying to think what realistically the far right could do if they got into power, so "chain up women and make them cattle" probably isn't realistic.

The listed solutions are not at all real solutions, and cannot go beyond a mechanistic conception of inceldom. To be an incel cannot be the absence of the mechanical actualization of sex, for then the site would have to part ways with escortcels, rapistcels (if there are any), and be under the theoretical drama of whole sorts of thought experiments that abuse the generality of this conception. Hence, the solution cannot be the mechanistic actualization of sex as well. Rather, THE solution to inceldom ought to be immediately related to its main ground, and in fact sole cause: the totality of a subject's genetic data and their external unfoldment. The only universal solution that directly holds the potential to change the state of things in these two axes can only be subsumed under post-class society in the form of genetic modification.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

genetic modification

Can you explain why genetic modification requires a post class society?

 

[readingcel]

Can you explain why genetic modification requires a post class society?

Not the technology in and of itself, we could even conceivably believe that feudalism or any prior economic mode that has a division of labour can actualize such a technology. But the "production" and, more importantly, the distribution of the said gene modification, if it is to be a universal solution to inceldom, would require the economy to not be operated by the blind laws of the market and commodity production.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

blind laws of the market

I don't think that this requires abolishing class

commodity production

Commodity production happened under the USSR, commodity production is not capitalist (considering it happened under feudalism as well). So are you saying that full globalist Marxist communism must be achieved?

 

[Emba]

I don't wanna start, you can do it

Too.old too care

 

[readingcel]

Commodity production happened under the USSR, commodity production is not capitalist (considering it happened under feudalism as well). So are you saying that full globalist Marxist communism must be achieved?

Indeed, it did happen under the USSR. Quite obviously, the USSR never went beyond capitalism. But it is a theoretical mistake to think that capitalism does not have commodity production as a constituent part.

Do pardon my prior formulation of my thoughts, as any sane person would agree with you that commodity production is not the sole substantial predicate of what one means by "capitalism". Rather, it is the synthesis of generalized commodity production, selling one's labour, and the private ownership of the means of production.

But to answer your last question, I am saying that we ought to go beyond the current mode of production, and solely that. Anything beyond that is a take that I do not affirm.

I don't think that this requires abolishing class

Insofar as the universal distribution of such genetic or, more generally, aesthetic modification according to needs and demands of incels would require an economy of use-values, and thereby going beyond the commodity-form, the value-form, private ownership, etc., one can absolutely state that the abolishment of class is a necessity for it. This economy of use-values would, as is quite intuitive, function on a global social plan of production and distribution (of useful articles).

Whether this can be achieved in the lower phase, or in the higher phase, is a question for concrete history. But theoretically speaking, it seems obvious to me that communism is indeed a necessity to solve inceldom.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

Whether this can be achieved in the lower phase, or in the higher phase, is a question for concrete history. But theoretically speaking, it seems obvious to me that communism is indeed a necessity to solve inceldom.

And by communism you mean a stateless, classes, moneyless world I presume

But then, what about the issue of race? Race cannot be practically preserved unless there are borders, communism has none.

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you do not believe that race doesn't exist, or that Europe should be flooded with low IQ negroids. How exactly can the white race (as around 5% of the world population) be preserved without having their respective nation states? Which would have rules about immigration, and possibly race mixing or violent crime to protect whites.

 

[Sir Waco]

give the entire rocky mountain states area to the newly created Crow Apache Empire and have me placed as it's rightful Emperor alongside my fellow native americans (fat whyte people from the reservations with a half-injun great-grandfather)

 

[readingcel]

And by communism you mean a stateless, classes, moneyless world I presume

But then, what about the issue of race? Race cannot be practically preserved unless there are borders, communism has none.

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you do not believe that race doesn't exist, or that Europe should be flooded with low IQ negroids. How exactly can the white race (as around 5% of the world population) be preserved without having their respective nation states? Which would have rules about immigration, and possibly race mixing or violent crime to protect whites.

The issue of race seems to be an external issue, and not at all something that immediately affects the nature of the economy. If the axiom that any given race, in this case whites, is ought to be conserved is given, one can easily conceive of a general (and perhaps here one would have to individuate this from Marxism insofar as the general is now the racial) social plan of production and distribution that subsumes this.

I think the confusion is due to a possible mis-aligned understanding of the state. It will categorically be non-existent insofar as class is to be "abolished". The definition that I am functioning on is from Bukharin: "From the Marxist point of view, the state is nothing but the most general organization of the ruling classes, its basic function being to preserve and expand the exploitation of the oppressed classes." There would still be the formal social institutions that manage the "proceedings of life", if that is intelligible enough.

A more important question to ask, I believe, is whether the issue of race can be solved by alike maneuvers, as explained in the prior posts.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

A more important question to ask, I believe, is whether the issue of race can be solved by alike maneuvers, as explained in the prior posts

What do you propose as the solution to race?

 

[readingcel]

What do you propose as the solution to race?

The same solution that we would have for, in a context where the whites are preserved within a national region, physically or mentally challenged people from birth or from accidents. If one accepts that technology can modify genes and aesthetics to the degree that we have been discussing, what is to stop it from modifying the very biology of mankind in all the relevant ways?

 

[readingcel]

The same solution that we would have for, in a context where the whites are preserved within a national region, physically or mentally challenged people from birth or from accidents. If one accepts that technology can modify genes and aesthetics to the degree that we have been discussing, what is to stop it from modifying the very biology of mankind in all the relevant ways?

For any other interlocutors that doubt this technological point, it should be said that we have a dichotomy on our hands, if we accept that inceldom is not related to sex mechanistically: Either the point is to be reached where the solution can be given, or it shall never be solved.

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

I can understand this, however the big problem I have is that this is one step removed from full on fascism. If these were actually implemented, they would just end up killing us as well. I'd actually much rather live in a soy-dripping cuckhole with faggots everywhere than a society where mass genocide is something I have to fear.

I do however support the segregation stuff.

 

[RandomGuy]

What do you propose as the solution to race?

America is a cultural wasteland.​

Kavkaz​

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[Chud Norris72]

Idk, Too ambitious

 

[LUCK]

What was the thought process when you wrote down your idea for a chadonly eugenics program right after the section about solving inceldom

 

[dateless Kanga]

i would disagree with eugenics. Would cause a downward spiral rather than fix anything imo

 

[Blackpill Monk]

How irony, Jews are now leading the White Nationalist movement and White cause

 

[baldfartsniffer]

What was the thought process when you wrote down your idea for a chadonly eugenics program right after the section about solving inceldom

Incels should be slowly perished from existence theory

 

[baldfartsniffer]

I can understand this, however the big problem I have is that this is one step removed from full on fascism. If these were actually implemented, they would just end up killing us as well. I'd actually much rather live in a soy-dripping cuckhole with faggots everywhere than a society where mass genocide is something I have to fear.

I do however support the segregation stuff.

Fascism is the only thing that can fix the soy-dripping cuckhole we call America.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

What was the thought process when you wrote down your idea for a chadonly eugenics program right after the section about solving inceldom

If you read the full thing you would see:
-Unattractive women would be forced to settle for unattractive men for financial reasons and marital rape is not a crime
-However, they wouldn't be having children. Instead the attractive people would be having children
-They would adopt those children and be paid to raise them

That way they are not really incels anymore, and the future of America doesn't have a large dysgenic populace that will make unattractive men prone to inceldom

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

full on fascism.

Full on fascism is good, I'd say

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

Idk, Too ambitious

Leftist from the 40s would probably also think it's too ambitious to make Germany, America, and the UK become minority white. But look where we are now. Things change over the decades

 

[four1298]

I only read half of this but it's just cuckservative bullshit.

Edit: I finished reading it.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

I only read half of this but it's just cuckservative bullshit.

Edit: I finished reading it.

What would your solution be?

 

[four1298]

What would your solution be?

It'd be the opposite of yours:
I'm against eugenics. California offered reparations to those who were involuntarily sterilized IIRC. Incels should receive reparations since they're victims of eugenics too.

I don't mind racemixing. In fact it can be good. Some nearcels can ascend with foreign women.

I think non-marital rape should be legalized. Perhaps it should be legalized on private property like Roosh said. If women don't want to be raped, they should not go into other people's property.

The system I want is a theocracy.

 

[DarthBurritoBastard]

I don't wanna start, you can do it

Lmao

 

[IWWorkER]

Eugenics
I have a feeling most people here will disagree with my solution, but this is what I am thinking:

-americans with the best genetics (higher IQ, taller, blonde hair, blue eyes exc) will be given a program where their entire job is simply to produce more children with their genetics. They will be paid to procreate, similar to how retarded negroes are paid welfare to pop out babies, but this would be more sophisticated and purposeful.

-we will simultaneously discourage Americans with bad genetics from procreating, especially the females with bad genetics. They will get payments to become sterilized and infertile, and a high tax will be imposed on them for having any children.

-now the children produced by the eugenics program can be adopted by the childless dysgenic couples, they will be given state welfare in return for adopting these children in order to help them financially in raising the future Aryan generation

WTF ? Is this a cuckold fetish thread ?

 

[IWWorkER]

They would adopt those children

Yeah that's the definition of cuckoldry

 

[AutismHaver]

its a shame nothing like this will ever happen, coming this century brazil2.0

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

Yeah that's the definition of cuckoldry

I don't care about that definition then. To me being a cuck is having your gf fuck another man or wanting to watch men fuck a woman you want.

In this scenario, you and your wife have sex without making children, and you simply adopt genetically well off kids. They way, your kids will not be raised as incels like if you had dysgenic children yourself

 

[Sir Silentium]

Jews run the economy, by removing the Jews the economy will collapse

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

Jews run the economy, by removing the Jews the economy will collapse

I really hope you aren't serious

 

[1Disturbed]

I really hope you aren't serious

 

[YourPalDanny]

The listed solutions are not at all real solutions, and cannot go beyond a mechanistic conception of inceldom. To be an incel cannot be the absence of the mechanical actualization of sex, for then the site would have to part ways with escortcels, rapistcels (if there are any), and be under the theoretical drama of whole sorts of thought experiments that abuse the generality of this conception. Hence, the solution cannot be the mechanistic actualization of sex as well. Rather, THE solution to inceldom ought to be immediately related to its main ground, and in fact sole cause: the totality of a subject's genetic data and their external unfoldment. The only universal solution that directly holds the potential to change the state of things in these two axes can only be subsumed under post-class society in the form of genetic modification.

Genetic modification would not be sufficient to resolve all the issues that cause people to become incel. More often, expression of a given trait is modified either in utero or through epigenetic modification of gene expression. Furthermore, the speed of breakdown of important chemically active compounds varies from person to person (metabolomics) and would require complete overhaul too.

 

[RandomGuy]

 

[hatepilledandrich]

Just give blacks their own country, is this not the best solution?

 

[hatepilledandrich]

As for jews, they're are a net positive tbh; Even if they are over-represented in unsavory realms. Jewish scientists are quite a boon to not just throw them out like that. A reeducation camp is better in this instance.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

Just give blacks their own country, is this not the best solution?

Wouldn't work easily without mass displacement/forced movements. Of both blacks and whites

 

[hatepilledandrich]

Wouldn't work easily without mass displacement/forced movements. Of both blacks and whites

What you are proposing will only create resentment and the repetition of Black nationalist groups who want equal treatment to whites. Why repeat history (the Civil Rights Movement and what not), when you can learn from it?

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

What you are proposing will only create resentment and the repetition of Black nationalist groups who want equal treatment to whites. Why repeat history (the Civil Rights Movement and what not), when you can learn from it?

What is the complaint? If blacks had their own police, courts, and territory and whites had their own of course, the main complaints of both sides would be solved. Blacks complain about "systemic racism" and whites complain about crime. Both will be solved if we separate

 

[hatepilledandrich]

What is the complaint? If blacks had their own police, courts, and territory and whites had their own of course, the main complaints of both sides would be solved. Blacks complain about "systemic racism" and whites complain about crime. Both will be solved if we separate

Full on autonomy and separation from whites. Segregation has been tried in multiple countries and it always results in failure.

 

[BenBerger]

This is my personal plan for how America could be fixed. Feel free to disagree.

A. The removal of left forces
The most important and immediate issue is the opposition coalition to the right, created and led by Jews and of course made up of immigrants, communists, blacks, and queers. In order to solve this we would have to:

-Ban all Jews and Muslims from american soil. Seize all Jewish assets (blackrock, Blackstone, rothschilds wealth, exc) in order to pay our national debt and deport them all back to the middle east (which would immediately solve the issue of foreign lobbying and AIPAC)

-Illegalize lgtbqia+ entirely, along with dismantling all its organizations and arresting those behind them. One solution would be to send all queers to a isolated city somewhere in Utah which is for queers only, has no global internet access, and they are never allowed to leave. Almost like a holding camp, but they can live and work there as any other citizen. Then they will not infest our public life or the Internet.

-mass deportations of immigrants, prioritizing the deportations based on a few things.
A. Crime rates of origin country, for example Haitians would be high deportation priority because of their high crime rate
B. Crime within America, any immigrant who commits a crime of any sort should be immediately deported
C. Protest and disruption, any immigrant anti ice protestor should be deported
The end goal would be to make America at least 90% white, I'm not sure how long that would take

-segregation of whites and non-whites. Blacks will have their own sections in areas where they are the majority, blacks outside those zones will be deported into them, they will need clearance to leave these areas unless simply flying to a different zone. They could have a separate governing system from America with their own voting and own representatives, so they cannot affect the lives of white americans. This solution I am least sure about. Other solutions may be to simply bring freedom of association back and illegalize anti white speech, which may make negros not an issue anyways.

-an end to free speech. Anti American activities such as supporting communism, anti white hatred, feminism, lgbt, exc will all be criminal. Think what Europe does to right wingers except we do it against leftist instead. Though we would need to be much harsher, giving death penalty or simply deporting everyone in leadership behind antifa, communist organizations, BLM, exc.

B. Solving inceldom
This is actually the hardest thing to solve, since it's a very natural phenomenon. My solution would be:

-put a high tax rate on female income, making it impossible for them to earn enough to be independent from men (I've heard some people say a 100% tax rate, maybe that could work)

-ban females from colleges. Simple as.

-erase the idea of marital rape. Wives are supposed to have sex with their husbands, marital rape should not be a crime.

I'd like to hear anyone else's solutions to this. Maybe arranged marriage programs. I'm trying to think what realistically the far right could do if they got into power, so "chain up women and make them cattle" probably isn't realistic.

C. Eugenics
I have a feeling most people here will disagree with my solution, but this is what I am thinking:

-americans with the best genetics (higher IQ, taller, blonde hair, blue eyes exc) will be given a program where their entire job is simply to produce more children with their genetics. They will be paid to procreate, similar to how retarded negroes are paid welfare to pop out babies, but this would be more sophisticated and purposeful.

-we will simultaneously discourage Americans with bad genetics from procreating, especially the females with bad genetics. They will get payments to become sterilized and infertile, and a high tax will be imposed on them for having any children.

-now the children produced by the eugenics program can be adopted by the childless dysgenic couples, they will be given state welfare in return for adopting these children in order to help them financially in raising the future Aryan generation.

-All racemixing will be illegal, any inheritable disability will require sterilization

D. Economy
Having removed the Jews and the immigrants, the economy will be much less of an issue. It should be simple to fix:

-end all foreign aid. No more America paying for the third world to mass produce more nonwhite children that becomes immigrants. American money is for Americans.

-we will in turn keep welfare for white Americans, even the dysgenic ones, considering that a large amount of dysgenic people won't even exist in the future generations (incels deserve neetbux)

-try to re industrialize America, stop us from relying on communist China for all of our goods, put American businesses first in the governments eyes

E. Raising future America
The question then is how must Americans be in the future? We must do a few things to promote their health:

-end all poisonous additives in our food production, so that Americans may be healthy. Our food and water must be cleaned of ZOGbot slop.

-Promote fitness of all sorts. Weightlifting and calisthenics will be made mandatory for schools and maybe even colleges, and will be promoted heavily in the media

-overhaul the education system to promote white and American identity. (Teach how the first native Americans were white, how the north African slavery of whites lasted longer and was larger in number than the transatlantic slave trade, that Jews ran the transatlantic slave trade, that red indians and subsaharan Africans were poor violent savages before colonization, exc)

-consistently remind everyone of how things were before the right wing took charge (anti white propaganda in media, over 20x higher black on white crime rate than white on black, repeat offender criminals being released after torturing, raping, murdering white children, exc)

This is all I can think of for now, I'm sure there's a lot more. Inb4 "politics is cope everyone should die!" Yeah go fuck yourself faggot, not everyone is a retarded Satanist who gets anal raped by dogs

This is not Kosher. I denounce it.

 

[Justanotherbloke]

Processed food is indeed very unhealthy and Jewish. Processed foods engineered fats and sugars actually spike insulin and oxidative stress, disrupting cells linked to test production, while depleting the zinc and magnesium required to synthesize it. You're basically consuming a chemical recipe for hormonal suppression, aka low quality slop. Simple, low test = less chance of uprising.
It's best to eat unprocessed and local preferably, and also not overeat, but normal healthy portions so you don't turn into a fat obese bulldozer. Jews want you weak physically, mentally drained etc so you pose low risk to their rule.