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My mother started the conversation by telling me about how victim mentallity is holding me back from fulfilling my potential.

I responded by saying I'm statistically fucked by the economy. Here's why:

(The prices are in Israel but I heard housing crisis is global)

- Houses today are worth on average for a 4 bedroom apartment: 2.36 million ILS (ILS - local currency)

- median salary is 9000 ILS, and I'm making lower than that.

Lets say you manage to save 7500 ILS after taxes, without spending any money on food, bills, or housing.

it would take you ~26.2 years to save enough money for a house
(2,360,000 / (7500 monthly * 12 months per year )).

And thats not accounting for inflation and rising houses cost over time. (In the last decade prices rose from 1.46M ILS to 2.36M ILS).

So if I don't spend any money, housing prices remain stable and there is zero inflation:

I can finally own a house at 50-55 years old, in this non existent scenario. Realistically I'll never own a home.

Dad: "But it's your lack of faith that's holding you back, you put barriers on yourself. What if you could succeed"

Me: "Dad, by that logic I could win the lottory tommorow - doesn't mean I will"

Clown world, im telling you.:feelsclown:
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this point.

Tagging some frens (sorry if I forgot anyone):

@Sir Silentium @TooSomething @AtrociousCitizen
 
Fortune favors the old
 
I have the same issue here in Australia. Thanks to Albanese and the Labor Party, Sydney currently has the highest cost of living Globally.

The average house price is Sydney is 1.55 Million AUD. So only really the top end Asian immigrants can afford houses, unless you move more rurally where there are no goods and services.
 
I have the same issue here in Australia. Thanks to Albanese and the Labor Party, Sydney currently has the highest cost of living Globally.

The average house price is Sydney is 1.55 Million AUD. So only really the top end Asian immigrants can afford houses, unless you move more rurally where there are no goods and services.
"The median weekly earnings are much lower than the average at $1,436 per week for all employees ($74,672 annually). This is broken down into $1,674 for males ($87,048 annually) and $1,250 for females ($65,000 annually), according to the ABS (May 2025)."

Source

(1,550,000 / 87,048 = ~17.8 years) In optimal conditions I stated earlier, even more optimal considered it's untaxed)

Absolutely brutal.:feelsbadman:
 
Do you really need a 4 bedroom house? 1 bedroom should suffice. Who are you gonna have around the house, your wife and kids? JFL...
 
Do you really need a 4 bedroom house? 1 bedroom should suffice. Who are you gonna have around the house, your wife and kids? JFL...
In a healthy society yes, for the wife and kids.

But realistically a 2-3 bedroom house is liveable. But even then its so expensive I can't even reach that.
 
That is still very tame, unless it was worse than you've depicted it here.

At least your dad wants you to believe in yourself.

I think that atp our parents are out of solutions for their own problems let alone our problems.

My parents, so it seems to me, have given up on me ever since I have quit my job.

My father literally won't talk to me anymore. Does not even ask me whether I am looking for a new joby what my plans are, how I am holding on.

Nothing.

At least you seem to have a job. It is something.

But if you get less than the median salery, it's already over, tbh.
Same here. Never earned much money. Was just always very good with money but not stingy either.

The best I can recommend for your future retirement is to invest in gold, but that will only be viable so long as humans won't have developed an alternative for the semiconductor industry.

Imagine if one day gold simply becomes obsolete.

The prices will plummet and there will be hell.

Imo the best / safest investment is still real estate.
But I am afraid that that ship has already sailed for us brokecels.

Our parents are too old for these black pills anyway.

It's like in the movie The Matrix. Morpheus has explained that it is futile to wake up 30+ yo humans because they are too far gone, too entagled in the matrix.

From a biological pov that makes sense both in the movie and the real world as the neuroplasticity, which means the mental adaptability and ability to learn and accept truths declines with age.

Some people can keep up their high neuroplasticity through good nutrition and active as well as diversified lifestyle, both physically and mentally, but most don't.

Our parents are literally stuck in their old ways of act and thought and incapable of question THEIR reality, which only exists in their heads.

I have tried black pilling my father in foids. It was futile. He has only raged like a big baby.
 
"The median weekly earnings are much lower than the average at $1,436 per week for all employees ($74,672 annually). This is broken down into $1,674 for males ($87,048 annually) and $1,250 for females ($65,000 annually), according to the ABS (May 2025)."

Source

(1,550,000 / 87,048 = ~17.8 years) In optimal conditions I stated earlier, even more optimal considered it's untaxed)

Absolutely brutal.:feelsbadman:
Taxation is killing us here in Germany as well. There is some economist who's apparently done the math and he has explained that the government could basically cover all the costs by just collecting the added value tax and not wasting taxes.

But we are taxed to death here. Even your inheritance gets taxed here, even if it's the house of your parents that you have inherited. That gets taxed to.

Some people trick the system by selling the house just in time for a symbolic Euro to their children, afaik.

But that requires a lot of trust, as the kids could screw up, get in debt and lose the house or be absolute assholes and kick their own parents out.

Afaik in Europe we have the highest taxation and yet they still suggest we work until 70.
 
In a healthy society yes, for the wife and kids.

But realistically a 2-3 bedroom house is liveable. But even then its so expensive I can't even reach that.
search for 1 bedroom houses dude wtf do you need the extra bedrooms for?
 
But we are taxed to death here. Even your inheritance gets taxed here, even if it's the house of your parents that you have inherited. That gets taxed to.
same here.

Afaik in Europe we have the highest taxation and yet they still suggest we work until 70.
thought we were the highest taxed country for individuals.
we're fucked.
 
That is still very tame, unless it was worse than you've depicted it here.

At least your dad wants you to believe in yourself.

I think that atp our parents are out of solutions for their own problems let alone our problems.

My parents, so it seems to me, have given up on me ever since I have quit my job.

My father literally won't talk to me anymore. Does not even ask me whether I am looking for a new joby what my plans are, how I am holding on.

Nothing.

At least you seem to have a job. It is something.

But if you get less than the median salery, it's already over, tbh.
Same here. Never earned much money. Was just always very good with money but not stingy either.

The best I can recommend for your future retirement is to invest in gold, but that will only be viable so long as humans won't have developed an alternative for the semiconductor industry.

Imagine if one day gold simply becomes obsolete.

The prices will plummet and there will be hell.

Imo the best / safest investment is still real estate.
But I am afraid that that ship has already sailed for us brokecels.

Our parents are too old for these black pills anyway.

It's like in the movie The Matrix. Morpheus has explained that it is futile to wake up 30+ yo humans because they are too far gone, too entagled in the matrix.

From a biological pov that makes sense both in the movie and the real world as the neuroplasticity, which means the mental adaptability and ability to learn and accept truths declines with age.

Some people can keep up their high neuroplasticity through good nutrition and active as well as diversified lifestyle, both physically and mentally, but most don't.

Our parents are literally stuck in their old ways of act and thought and incapable of question THEIR reality, which only exists in their heads.

I have tried black pilling my father in foids. It was futile. He has only raged like a big baby.
Good read, and I agree with neuroplasticity - most old people I talk to just aren't there mentally. They have memorized patterns of conversations but nothing else.

Absolutely brutal for your dad to shun you out like that. It's not your fault that we were given a late stage capitalistic economy, with no opportunities for growth and somehow expected to succeed.
 
My mother started the conversation by telling me about how victim mentallity is holding me back from fulfilling my potential.

I responded by saying I'm statistically fucked by the economy. Here's why:

(The prices are in Israel but I heard housing crisis is global)

- Houses today are worth on average for a 4 bedroom apartment: 2.36 million ILS (ILS - local currency)

- median salary is 9000 ILS, and I'm making lower than that.

Lets say you manage to save 7500 ILS after taxes, without spending any money on food, bills, or housing.

it would take you ~26.2 years to save enough money for a house
(2,360,000 / (7500 monthly * 12 months per year )).

And thats not accounting for inflation and rising houses cost over time. (In the last decade prices rose from 1.46M ILS to 2.36M ILS).

So if I don't spend any money, housing prices remain stable and there is zero inflation:

I can finally own a house at 50-55 years old, in this non existent scenario. Realistically I'll never own a home.

Dad: "But it's your lack of faith that's holding you back, you put barriers on yourself. What if you could succeed"

Me: "Dad, by that logic I could win the lottory tommorow - doesn't mean I will"

Clown world, im telling you.:feelsclown:
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this point.

Tagging some frens (sorry if I forgot anyone):

@Sir Silentium @TooSomething @AtrociousCitizen
torahmaxx and ask bibi to give you a free apartment, it's easy if you're a jew. Contact Mossad, there are no homeless people in Israel. They will provide you with an apartment.
 
search for 1 bedroom houses dude wtf do you need the extra bedrooms for?
1 bdr apartment is basically a shoebox here, not to the extent of hong kong levels but still tiny.

You shouldn't live in less than a 2bdr apt imo.

Also why would I work for 40 years for a 1 bdr apt?
 
Yep. They give me this advice as well when they realized I have a serious set of mental problems. I don't blame them, as the only advice people can give is based off their lived experience. For them, doing that worked, so they think it'll still work now, in a completely different world.
 
1 bdr apartment is basically a shoebox here, not to the extent of hong kong levels but still tiny.

You shouldn't live in less than a 2bdr apt imo.

Also why would I work for 40 years for a 1 bdr apt?
I'm telling you if you need a home, beggars can't be choosers.
Yes the economy is fucked but why would you need a 4 bedroom house? It's just a waste of money when you won't use the bedrooms anyways.
 
1 bdr apartment is basically a shoebox here, not to the extent of hong kong levels but still tiny.

You shouldn't live in less than a 2bdr apt imo.

Also why would I work for 40 years for a 1 bdr apt?
How many square metres?
 
torahmaxx and ask bibi to give you a free apartment, it's easy if you're a jew. Contact Mossad, there are no homeless people in Israel. They will provide you with an apartment.
I wish it worked that way man lol, you have to be born into that kind of religious lifestyle.

You can't just go to a governent office, strip naked to show a circumcised penis and recite torsh knowledge to get an apartment. :lul:

Yep. They give me this advice as well when they realized I have a serious set of mental problems. I don't blame them, as the only advice people can give is based off their lived experience. For them, doing that worked, so they think it'll still work now, in a completely different world.
I agree it worked out for them.
But what frustrates me is that I show undeniable proof that the economy is fucked, and they go and say: " But I don't see it that way, there is still a chance"
 
How many square metres?
Depends on the city - high income city is smaller but you earn more. I once rented a 1bdr apt for half of my monthly salary, it was about 25sqm
 
Depends on the city - high income city is smaller but you earn more. I once rented a 1bdr apt for half of my monthly salary, it was about 25sqm
20sqm if being more accurate, which includes bathroom and kitchen
 
Depends on the city - high income city is smaller but you earn more. I once rented a 1bdr apt for half of my monthly salary, it was about 25sqm
Holy shit ... . I am already fed up with my 33 sqm ... but atp I cannot afford more.

jfl fuck this world, man.

Can't even spread your wings fully, as a young adult.
I literally have one room where all my life takes place and even psychologists say that for good sleep the human needs a room that is strictly dedicated to that.

I guess I will have to buy or build a divider to make it look like a have a separate bedroom.
 
20sqm if being more accurate, which includes bathroom and kitchen
This is not a life. This is almost like being an inmate in a prison... .
 
Holy shit ... . I am already fed up with my 33 sqm ... but atp I cannot afford more.

jfl fuck this world, man.

Can't even spread your wings fully, as a young adult.
I literally have one room where all my life takes place and even psychologists say that for good sleep the human needs a room that is strictly dedicated to that.

I guess I will have to buy or build a divider to make it look like a have a separate bedroom.
Remindes me of WEF slogan:
"You will own nothing and be happy"
 
This is not a life. This is almost like being an inmate in a prison... .
I moved back to my parents since, but of course it comes with its own set of problems.

I'll keep trying but there is no escape.
 
I moved back to my parents since, but of course it comes with its own set of problems.

I'll keep trying but there is no escape.
Understandable and people say Jews run the world. jfl at this

Average men are struggling everywhere, some more some less.

Richfags are fucking us all and don't even wine and dine us first yet our parents blame our lack of faith.
If you want faith, go to the church or something. :feelsUnreal:

I really hope for you that you can make it, as you at least don't give up, despite all the obstacles.
Same here, man. I won't give up, not after everything.
Whether I will get a job in my profession or not.
If I do, fine, if I don't, I will work some random job and study in the evening and work on side hustles.

Surviving is winning. Everything else is bullshit.
 
I take it back bro what the fuck
Yeah, man. Even I thought that I've had it bad, but this is far worse.

And then all these faggots in the parliaments keep talking about muh democracy and human dignity.

It is all a big scam.
 
Yeah, man. Even I thought that I've had it bad, but this is far worse.

And then all these faggots in the parliaments keep talking about muh democracy and human dignity.

It is all a big scam.
human rights don't exist
 
Even the guys who control world finance can't provide for their citizens? Ok, it really is over :feelskek:
 
human rights don't exist
True.

We have a saying in Germany when it comes to your rights, btw.

It toes something like this "In Germany you don't have to be in the right but you have to get your right." .

It refers to the fact that just because you are right does not mean that you will get it officially, legally, in court, if your opponent has more money than you and or if you can even afford an attorney.
 
Even the guys who control world finance can't provide for their citizens? Ok, it really is over :feelskek:
It is all bullshit anyway.

It is rich vs everyone else, no Jews vs everyone else.

If it was the later, they would not let their own down.

Rich dgaf about borders, nationalities, laws, rules, regulations, moral and ethics.
 
I take it back bro what the fuck
No worries bro:feelskek:

Yeah, it's pretty grim, but things in europe (I think thats were you are from but could be wrong) aren't that great either - at least from what I heard. But hey at least you have good infrastracture and free education, here there is none of that:feelskek:

Understandable and people say Jews run the world. jfl at this

Average men are struggling everywhere, some more some less.

Richfags are fucking us all and don't even wine and dine us first yet our parents blame our lack of faith.
If you want faith, go to the church or something. :feelsUnreal:

I really hope for you that you can make it, as you at least don't give up, despite all the obstacles.
Same here, man. I won't give up, not after everything.
Whether I will get a job in my profession or not.
If I do, fine, if I don't, I will work some random job and study in the evening and work on side hustles.

Surviving is winning. Everything else is bullshit.
Some of the ruling class may be jewish but there are plenty of "elite" christians, muslims etc... at the top the only religion is money and greed.

Surviving is winning, I agree completely. We will make it.

Even the guys who control world finance can't provide for their citizens? Ok, it really is over :feelskek:
Hahaha yes everytime I hear "its the jews" im like bitch where is my money!?:feelskek:

I'd go as far to say that Israel is one of the most expensive countries to live in on average. And not expensive as you earn a lot and pay alot, no you earn little and pay a lot.:lul:
 
Some of the ruling class may be jewish but there are plenty of "elite" christians, muslims etc... at the top the only religion is money and greed.
Neither of them are religious. This is all just a show. My last boss also pretended hard to be a catholic. But when we talked business and the problems the bullies were causing in the company, his catholicism was nowhere to be found.
He as well needed and wanted to divide and conquer. They don't want all of their employees to get along well.
Surviving is winning, I agree completely. We will make it.


Hahaha yes everytime I hear "its the jews" im like bitch where is my money!?:feelskek:
There was a time when I considered pretending to be a Jew to apply for some gibs.
I kod you not, some distant uncle from Ukraine has pulled that stunt and they indeed have gotten some gibs from their government.

They have forged documents. I would not even be getting any gibs from Jews but from the tax payer in that case.

But alas, I am too much of an idealist and still have morals, so I'd never do that.
I'd go as far to say that Israel is one of the most expensive countries to live in on average. And not expensive as you earn a lot and pay alot, no you earn little and pay a lot.:lul:
Israel is not Switzerland. It is over. I remember watching an infamous interview of an jewish granny who explained that the reason why some Jews stay in those so called antisemitic countries, like USA, England, Germany etc. is because there they don't have to work for money, unlike in Israel.
She has said that in Israel you actually have to work, and they don't want that.

Obviousely not all Jews, just a few select richfags who happen to have jewish roots.
 
I imagine the amount of military spending doesn't help :feelskek:
Lol absolutely, the goverment has a problem that they just can't end wars properly. 1967 could've completely ended the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. But no, they decide to give two citizenships with opposing ideologies within the same borders - what could possibly go wrong? :feelskek:

They always leave wars in sort of unfinished business. And when the extremists eventually start a war they act surprised lmao.

It's all corruption, in a self inflicted never ending wars.

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think Israel is just United States weapons testing facility atp.


Israel is not Switzerland. It is over. I remember watching an infamous interview of an jewish granny who explained that the reason why some Jews stay in those so called antisemitic countries, like USA, England, Germany etc. is because there they don't have to work for money, unlike in Israel.
She has said that in Israel you actually have to work, and they don't want that.

Obviousely not all Jews, just a few select richfags who happen to have jewish roots.
Damn thats crazy, I mean here in Israel the ultra religious in general don't work, at least the men.

But yeah the vast majority of secular and conservative citizens have to work. Btw, I don't mind working - just want to be adequetly payed.
 
Lol absolutely, the goverment has a problem that they just can't end wars properly. 1967 could've completely ended the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. But no, they decide to give two citizenships with opposing ideologies within the same borders - what could possibly go wrong? :feelskek:
If I was either ethnicity I would leave the godforsaken place as soon as an opportunity arose. Any hope of peace resolutions is obviously gone now.
 
If I was either ethnicity I would leave the godforsaken place as soon as an opportunity arose. Any hope of peace resolutions is obviously gone now.
Oh yeah defitnely a good idea to leave.

People expect me to be patriotic and sacrifice for a nation I can't even afford to live in.

Besides even if I manage to start a family, why would I want them to live in fear of constant conflict?

The downside of leaving is that all your friends and family stay here.
 
People expect me to be patriotic and sacrifice for a nation I can't even afford to live in.
Consider Paraguay if you do consider leaving. Random, but has close ties to Israel.
 
Consider Paraguay if you do consider leaving. Random, but has close ties to Israel.
It's definitely more affordable. I started Paraguaymaxxing when they were still in the world cup because I noticed it angered redditors but I've always been interested in the place.
 
Consider Paraguay if you do consider leaving. Random, but has close ties to Israel.
Paraguay has close ties to Israel? Didn't know that, I knew that we are close with argentina - but paraguay is new to me. Well they are close to one another.
 
It's definitely more affordable. I started Paraguaymaxxing when they were still in the world cup because I noticed it angered redditors but I've always been interested in the place.
Interesting, I heard great stuff about uruguay as well - although its a bit more expensive.
 
Paraguay has close ties to Israel? Didn't know that, I knew that we are close with argentina - but paraguay is new to me. Well they are close to one another.
Yeah in fact some Palestinian militants did a bombing (decades ago) in Asunción for that reason. Idk the exact details but it was a bizarre incident.
 
Yeah in fact some Palestinian militants did a bombing (decades ago) in Asunción for that reason. Idk the exact details but it was a bizarre incident.
I heard about it vaugly, will have to do more research on this.

The ideal would be to get a good paying remote job while living there.
 
Lol absolutely, the goverment has a problem that they just can't end wars properly. 1967 could've completely ended the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. But no, they decide to give two citizenships with opposing ideologies within the same borders - what could possibly go wrong? :feelskek:

They always leave wars in sort of unfinished business. And when the extremists eventually start a war they act surprised lmao.

It's all corruption, in a self inflicted never ending wars.

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think Israel is just United States weapons testing facility atp.
Wars are highly profitable, for those who have a stake in them.
None of those people are interested in problems being solved because without problems they cannot make a profit.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcNIWPkNzA


The accent is very fitting too. jfl
Damn thats crazy, I mean here in Israel the ultra religious in general don't work, at least the men.

But yeah the vast majority of secular and conservative citizens have to work. Btw, I don't mind working - just want to be adequetly payed.
That is very understandable to want to be properly reimbursed.

I doubt I will find the video again, but let me try.

But tbh with you, I do mind working and you should to. Every incel.should hate work, since we are taxed and get nothing from our societies in return.

Yeah, I really don't get how the ultra religious in Israel can get away with it.
Secular and conservative people there have to rise up and demand actual equality, imo.




Holy shit, found it. It's been banned everywhere except for one place so far.

But since I don't speak Hebrew, the translation might be fake. jfl

Correct me if she has said something completely different. xD

But of course what she is saying is exaggerated also. Except for those hasidic Jews the others do work.
Yeah, nepotism is a thing among them, but tbh that is not even a bad thing.

Everyone does it anyway. All companies I have worked for so far have nepotism going on, and it's mostly Germans also, not even foreigners doing it.

There are laws which prohibit that, but nobody gives a damn.

In my last company the boss had all his brothers and sisters employed despite them not even being qualified for the job and one day I've found out about their wages.

They'd get at least 30€ / hour whereas the average worker who was no related to them got between 150 and 20€ / hour.

We have worked our asses of so that theye leeches could have a good life.

This is why I avoid applying at family run companies as good as I can.
It's a scam.
 
If I was either ethnicity I would leave the godforsaken place as soon as an opportunity arose. Any hope of peace resolutions is obviously gone now.
There cannot be peace if two complete opposites have to live within the same borders.

Same is happening in Africa where the USA has created artificial borders, not taking into account that waring tribes would be living in the same country ... .
Obviousely those people willl never find peacem
 
Some time ago there were some uruguayans on here, but they were grays that went inactive. One posted about life there and I tagged the other guy I knew: https://incels.is/threads/incel-as-a-third-worlder.871894/#post-24407416

His response was interesting
Oh yeah I remember the uruguanian incel, he seems chill from what I've seen.

Seems uruguay is richer but still with high crime like he describes.

I will do more research but I agree anyhow that working remotely in a low qol country is a great, underrated idea.
 
Wars are highly profitable, for those who have a stake in them.
None of those people are interested in problems being solved because without problems they cannot make a profit.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcNIWPkNzA


The accent is very fitting too. jfl

That is very understandable to want to be properly reimbursed.

I doubt I will find the video again, but let me try.

But tbh with you, I do mind working and you should to. Every incel.should hate work, since we are taxed and get nothing from our societies in return.

Yeah, I really don't get how the ultra religious in Israel can get away with it.
Secular and conservative people there have to rise up and demand actual equality, imo.


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Holy shit, found it. It's been banned everywhere except for one place so far.

But since I don't speak Hebrew, the translation might be fake. jfl

Correct me if she has said something completely different. xD

But of course what she is saying is exaggerated also. Except for those hasidic Jews the others do work.
Yeah, nepotism is a thing among them, but tbh that is not even a bad thing.

Everyone does it anyway. All companies I have worked for so far have nepotism going on, and it's mostly Germans also, not even foreigners doing it.

There are laws which prohibit that, but nobody gives a damn.

In my last company the boss had all his brothers and sisters employed despite them not even being qualified for the job and one day I've found out about their wages.

They'd get at least 30€ / hour whereas the average worker who was no related to them got between 150 and 20€ / hour.

We have worked our asses of so that theye leeches could have a good life.

This is why I avoid applying at family run companies as good as I can.
It's a scam.

Translation is correct, some parts are inaudible but context is correct.

And yes it's exaggerated if I went to germany for work, I won't get any money from being jewish lmao.

She probably thinks about rich banking families and other extremely wealthy families.

Yeah nepotism is such a scam, the ceo at my work is so out of touch with the average worker - that he is so full of himself it's unbeliveable. It's all connections, you qualifications mean shit.
 
Translation is correct, some parts are inaudible but context is correct.
Surprising tbh.
And yes it's exaggerated if I went to germany for work, I won't get any money from being jewish lmao.
Actually in Germany you could get some benefits, but you would have to do the research.

I know my one uncle who faked being jewish did get some. It was wild.
But don't ask me. I did not look into it.

In Germany Jews are sacred, man, let me tell you.
I am not exaggerating here. Yes we have problems with muslims attacking Jews, but funnily enough this is blamed on antisemitism in Germany, rather than typical islamic antisemitism.

But of course we also have german antisemites. You have them everywhere in the world.
She probably thinks about rich banking families and other extremely wealthy families.
Yeah those whom she describes are that, but not average Joes or Shmoels. xD
Yeah nepotism is such a scam, the ceo at my work is so out of touch with the average worker - that he is so full of himself it's unbeliveable. It's all connections, you qualifications mean shit.
I felt that. But at least here you qualification still means something.
Depending on the company some prefer good marks, some actual experience.
 
I wonder how bad the housing economy will get in 100 years

Youll probably need to earn at least a million a year just to afford a shitty apartment :feelsclown:
 

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