D. B. Gooner
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Finished monster. My favorite thing to ponder is identity so it's right up my alley. Though I'd say that me and the writer have some baseline disagreements on identity, he still did a fairly good job. No, it's not better than Naruto. The show will definitely hit harder on a rewatch/manga read through, with a different perspective on johan.
Tenma is an interesting case. He, like Naruto (the character), doesn't appeal much to me, but he is the perfect antithesis to the shows strong antagonist cast, so they automatically drag him up.
Things I'm (very slightly) disappointed by:
-Grimmer is cool, but some people call him the best deuter in anime, hell no, he is alright, he is like a less symbolic, less complex, more tacky, but more likable version of Kisame from Naruto who is one of my goats as you may be able to tell from my signature. Still good, just not really groundbreaking. Actually Kisame's character arc is going from a Roberto to a Grimmer in a way. Both Roberto and Grimmer are great characters.
-Franz Bonaparte. He was shaping up to be the coolest character in the show. I was far more intrigued by him than I was with Johan. I love fairytales. I love when people view themselves as monsters. So I was expecting his whole character to be about a man who wants to prove that identities imposed on you by society are meaningless by creating blank children, and by proving that he would prove that all labels such as 'monster' are also meaningless, thus justifying all of his actions. And some of that madness I was looking for was present, just didn't expect him to end up being an apologetic guy. Him being remorseful is fine, it makes sense, I'm just saying it's not what appeals to me.
The anime was getting real slow after they left Prague, and was beginning to lose me, but the final 10 episodes were great.
Like I said at some point Johan wasn't all that intriguing to me, the more we learned about him the less intriguing he got. But in these final 3 episodes he redeemed himself and shot up from like my 5th fave in the show to no1. Him being a victim of experimentations is very slightly tacky and also removes the force of nature feel he had. But that ends up working in his favor. He is a guy who wants to feel like a force of nature, but is actually just a human. That's where I thought the show would go when I started it but I lost that feeling until these final few episodes.
Then Johan's hypocrisy and delusion is on full display. He wants to prove to Tenma that identities are fake by getting him, the altruistic doctor, to shoot and kill the boy he once saved. And he fully believed that Tenma would do it, and him doing it would confirm Johan's philosophy, which was ironically imposed on him by Franz becoming his identity. But as Tenma hesitates, Johan desperately threatens to kill a child in order to force Tenma into killing him. The moment he forced Tenma into a choice he lost his own game, Tenma wouldn't be abandoning his savior identity as he would be saving an innocent child.
Johan is a hypocrite and I love hypocrites, I am a hypocrite myself. He is a fake nihilist done right cough cough Rust from true detective is mid cough cough
Shout out to Lunge and Roberto, they have the most aura in the show and are great characters in general.
Tenma is an interesting case. He, like Naruto (the character), doesn't appeal much to me, but he is the perfect antithesis to the shows strong antagonist cast, so they automatically drag him up.
Things I'm (very slightly) disappointed by:
-Grimmer is cool, but some people call him the best deuter in anime, hell no, he is alright, he is like a less symbolic, less complex, more tacky, but more likable version of Kisame from Naruto who is one of my goats as you may be able to tell from my signature. Still good, just not really groundbreaking. Actually Kisame's character arc is going from a Roberto to a Grimmer in a way. Both Roberto and Grimmer are great characters.
-Franz Bonaparte. He was shaping up to be the coolest character in the show. I was far more intrigued by him than I was with Johan. I love fairytales. I love when people view themselves as monsters. So I was expecting his whole character to be about a man who wants to prove that identities imposed on you by society are meaningless by creating blank children, and by proving that he would prove that all labels such as 'monster' are also meaningless, thus justifying all of his actions. And some of that madness I was looking for was present, just didn't expect him to end up being an apologetic guy. Him being remorseful is fine, it makes sense, I'm just saying it's not what appeals to me.
The anime was getting real slow after they left Prague, and was beginning to lose me, but the final 10 episodes were great.
Like I said at some point Johan wasn't all that intriguing to me, the more we learned about him the less intriguing he got. But in these final 3 episodes he redeemed himself and shot up from like my 5th fave in the show to no1. Him being a victim of experimentations is very slightly tacky and also removes the force of nature feel he had. But that ends up working in his favor. He is a guy who wants to feel like a force of nature, but is actually just a human. That's where I thought the show would go when I started it but I lost that feeling until these final few episodes.
Then Johan's hypocrisy and delusion is on full display. He wants to prove to Tenma that identities are fake by getting him, the altruistic doctor, to shoot and kill the boy he once saved. And he fully believed that Tenma would do it, and him doing it would confirm Johan's philosophy, which was ironically imposed on him by Franz becoming his identity. But as Tenma hesitates, Johan desperately threatens to kill a child in order to force Tenma into killing him. The moment he forced Tenma into a choice he lost his own game, Tenma wouldn't be abandoning his savior identity as he would be saving an innocent child.
Johan is a hypocrite and I love hypocrites, I am a hypocrite myself. He is a fake nihilist done right cough cough Rust from true detective is mid cough cough
Shout out to Lunge and Roberto, they have the most aura in the show and are great characters in general.





