LifeFuel just had my first sex at 22 with an local prostitute feels good man
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I know. It's literally not worth it here.
not soy but chad. IDK , i just want to taste pussy of stacy.
Damn, I'm thirsty now, I need to finish wealthmaxxing quick JFL
For me the first and only time I did it, it was tits
I want to do ass man................... I want to do ass
Like you said, every incel should just pay to experience this at least once, you're coping to deny yourself this pleasure
You idiots keep strawmanning consensual sex as something special so you can rationalize your aversion to paying for it, keep coping
What the hell do you mean by "artificial", whats your criteria for "natural"?
Also JFL at "loving sex", you've been watching too many romantic movies and not talking to enough normies, sex is not something "sacred" or "pristine", you aren't living in real life and I'm sure you definitely don't talk normies about their dating lives
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Loving sex is something else tbh. Escortcelling is a good cope though. Also JFL if you think normie men can get that kind of sex.
Loving sex I doubt is more enjoyable than "raunchy" sex, which is why people cheat, people just like to overhype romanticism
At the end of the day most women want it rough and hard and don't care that much for romanticism, romanticism is a cope sold to non-chad men, because we have to try and make the act "feel special" because were not good looking enough for women to just enjoy fucking us period
Not really. Loving sex refers to how involved the foid is in the act. She could either lie there like a doll or be really proactive. "Love" in this case is nothing but lust. When a foid is convinced she is having sex with a top tier male, she is willing to go places and do things shed never do with an average/ugly guy.
The best we can hope for is for the foid to tolerate us. Thats what the money is for.
1. Well that's very confusing then, because when someone says love you'll likely assume "emotion" not "action"
2. You seem to be arguing that no whore gives you enthusiastic sex, completely false, I had a great time my first time around, in fact she was trying too hard, almost fucked up my pelvis with her huge ass, I think americans just have shitty whores in their country period, which is why I'm only going to escortcel in 3rd world countries or Eastern Europe where the women are poor and will give you your money's worth
Not actually true at all, most of us just need to leave their countries were in where the women are stuck up and/or have options to be picky even as whores
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For foids, the two are quite close to each other. Their actions are dictated by their feelings at that moment.
I agree with this. Ive had some good experiences with escorts too, which is why i still advocate it. Also agree that foids in shit holes generally do more to please the guy, as they have more at stake. Since i live in one, i dont have an issue with finding those kind of escorts.
Youd still be an incel if you pay for sex. This is where things get blurry for me as majority of men are paying for it one way or the other. Are they incels too? Dont know really.
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Tbh
You're paying for a hole that's blown out and also hates you, you will never actually be with a girl actually attracted to you physically
Major normie trait...
Whats more important to you, the chef at a restaurant liking you, or the food they serve you being of a good quality and tasting good?
In that question lies the difference between someone who is a logical thinker with objective goals and someone who is an emotional thinker with subjective goals
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The problem is that in this comparison is that if the chef doesn't like you then the food isn't going be good either.
Baste
AMEN
No that's your strawman, a strawman you guys have to keep telling yourself to rationalize why you'll never even try paying for sex
On my first time I got A-grade treatment, of course I did tell the whore it was my first time so maybe that's why, heck I look pathetic enough, I can just keep telling the next few whores I fuck that for a while
Its not that chefs give quality work based on how much they like you, its that you guys go to shitty restaurants or YOU AREN'T DEMANDING ENOUGH
Its a business, but its a grimey business, you have to demand good service not expect it
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You're coping here, sadly.No that's your strawman, a strawman you guys have to keep telling yourself to rationalize why you'll never even try paying for sex
On my first time I got A-grade treatment, of course I did tell the whore it was my first time so maybe that's why, heck I look pathetic enough, I can just keep telling the next few whores I fuck that for a while
I'm coping yet between me and you, I'm the only one with the experience to say otherwise, while you are just going on hearsay and memes
I don't get what you mean when you say "I'm coping", are you saying my memories are false?
You sound in denial right now, the guy who made this thread even said he had a great time JFL
You're the only one who seems like he's coping
Maybe you should try it once and then decide who is coping rather than just imagining you are right
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Never understood this logic, why should they give a shit if you're satisfied or not? Whether you enjoy the sex or not is completely irrelevant to them, they already got your money. The whole point is you pay for the pussy and you get the pussy, that's it. There isn't any legal binding that mandates that they HAVE to make you feel good. It's not like you can do anything about it anyway, they already got your money. What are you going to do, ask for a refund? Demand better service? They'll just get their chad pimps to beat the shit out of you in that case.
They have complete control over the entire process, they can put in as little effort as they want and they're still going to get paid. The only exceptions are if they're hoping for a tip (which never fucking happens anyway lmao, and even if it did simps give tips even for shitty sex so they'll get it anyway) OR they're actually attracted to you in which case you're probably not even an incel.
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You paid for sex. Youre still basically a virgin. You might as well have used a Fleshlight for all it matters.
and yet, between you and even a normie, one would actually know what it's like to have sex with someone that's actually into it.
I already made a post saying that sex was the worst crap ever.
I have a dominance and rape fetish, so maybe that's why I care less about women being attracted to me, a whore showing a face of disgust would probably arouse me more, IDK what to tell you, good luck being a sex starved idiot JFL
But saying someone is a virgin after having sex because they paid for it is retard tier, I'm not going to argue with that, its a waste of time
i agree that sex is just sex it seems that affectionate sex comes as a realization of some sort after the normies have sex. Like they enjoy primal sex and then the whole love bullshit kicks in.Damn, I'm thirsty now, I need to finish wealthmaxxing quick JFL
For me the first and only time I did it, it was tits
I want to do ass man................... I want to do ass
Like you said, every incel should just pay to experience this at least once, you're coping to deny yourself this pleasure
You idiots keep strawmanning consensual sex as something special so you can rationalize your aversion to paying for it, keep coping
What the hell do you mean by "artificial", whats your criteria for "natural"?
Also JFL at "loving sex", you've been watching too many romantic movies and not talking to enough normies, sex is not something "sacred" or "pristine", you aren't living in real life and I'm sure you definitely don't talk normies about their dating lives
This
This is what I think a lot of people don't seem to get, the act of sex and the feelings associated with sex are completely separate, if they weren't, ONE NIGHT STANDS WOULD NOT BE A THING
All that "love" stuff comes after sexual attraction, and it always dissipates without maintained sexual attraction, there is no romantic love without lust
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Good luck coping with how you're better than everyone here when you had to pay for sex.
"Dominance and rape fetish" hmm, quite an oxymoron considering you had to literally pay for pussy. You don't actually dominate a hole unless she willingly submits and spreads her legs for you no strings attached. Quite strange for such a objectivist holier than though to overlook such a detail.
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Yeah but see the difference is ONS are MUTUAL. Both parties want to fuck voluntarily, that's the whole fucking point. Hookers don't want to fuck you, they probably hate your guts and wish you dead. The only thing they care about is your wallet. And all that is going to lead to is a whore who doesn't care if you enjoy the fucking and just wants you out of her sight ASAP. How can anyone enjoy that?
In a lot of cases, it is better to pay them after the act. This ensures they give good service. There are some foids who do give good service even if you pay in advance. Depends on your location, the foid, etc.
geez man, why are they so expensive in there? Here the most expensive top tier Stacy is like 120 an hour, average one is like 50.
Interesting. I personally see sex without validation as meaningless.
English isn't your first language is it?
Thats a little bit disturbing man. You seem to have gone past the human phase lol.
JFL, humanity is for the weak
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You know for someone who is such an objectivist so far above the sheep down below, you're still posting on an incel forum and poor. As far as I'm concerned that objectively tells me you're in the same boat as even the biggest retards here who spend all their days on Vapes and video games.
Well its also perplexing to me why youre here. If you dont seek female affection, all you need is money and then you get to fuck a lot of escorts. Also, you seem to be trying really hard to seem extreme. In reality, most of the incels here, i would assume, are meek and high inhib.
I guess its easy to seem dominant and aggressive behind a keyboard.
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But again, what's stopping her from just cringing and laying there with a hateful/bored look on her face? As soon as you stick your peepee in her, you HAVE to pay her. You can't just finish and go "yeah I'm not going to pay you because the sex was meh", that will end in a guaranteed hospital visit or even a funeral. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that a foid would just voluntarily give a guy she's disgusted by good sex. She has dozens of clients who are going to be better looking and probably even more NT than us, she has ZERO reason to put any effort in.
Wrong, she does want you out of her sight ASAP, but SHE DOES CARE if you enjoy the fucking because its a business and she wants a return customer, do you know how quickly their pockets would dry up if every guy was just a one time fuck, whores need "regulars", a lot of johns are guys who live in a nearby area, if they don't return, your business dries up
Exactly, I don't have a lot of money, when I'm finished wealthmaxxing you guys will probably see me once a month if even at all, i'll be too busy enjoyment myself, heck I might even start a forum/group and just invite a select few
what was she /10?
I can relate to this. Escorts are a cope. A good cope but not the solution.
Well depends on the foid. A lot of them know theyre not going to get legit chads there, so i guess they put on a good show.
So youre just poor . Thats your issue. For many of us, its more than that.
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That's because for you, the meaning (purpose) of sex is to stroke your ego rather than to have your dick stroked
Its like going to a restaurant and being more focused on the chef liking you rather than the food tasting good and being well prepared, completely illogical, but what can I expect from postmaxxer
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