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LifeFuel just had my first sex at 22 with an local prostitute feels good man

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Where did I say I was worried?

You said " Dark skin has a lot to do with inceldom ". It doesnt if you only plan on fucking hookers and seek no validation.

Also iam guessing looksmaxxing is totally pointless to you since you dont care what foids find attractive.
 
I mean why would they exclude them if they just find them ugly? You just said they want as many customers as possible, so why by your logic would they exclude blacks? Money is money, as you say.

Ok so why exclude guys who just look frail and a little weird like blackops2cel, he his face isn't mutated or anything, money is money
 
Where did I say I was worried?

Do you know what "past tense" is in english?
you might wanna look at this this is the true logical conclusion of the blackpill by barbarossa
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It doesnt if you only plan on fucking hookers and seek no validation

It doesn't FOR ME (other dark skinned men live on the planet right? JFL, are you saying I can no longer speak in general?)

Again, you are GRASPING FOR STRAWS, you have no argument, you are trying really hard to push this little non-point because your reading and comprehension skills are shit, english definitely isn't your first language

Also iam guessing looksmaxxing is totally pointless to you since you dont care what foids find attractive.

Yes its completely pointless, I would never get a surgery or do anything to try and LOOK better




you might wanna look at this this is the true logical conclusion of the blackpill by barbarossa View attachment 252202

Something is off with that image you posted, reupload it please
 
It doesn't FOR ME

Thats the point i was trying to make. Youre not incel in the same sense that a lot of us are. There is little point in you pretending to belong here.
 
Ok so why exclude guys who just look frail and a little weird like blackops2cel, he his face isn't mutated or anything, money is money

They would take their money, they'd just give shitty sex that isn't worth the price they're asking or flat out scam them. What's a guy like him gonna do about it? Nothing, he'll just have to swallow it and move on (and probably rope from embarrasement).

A black gangster on the other hand, well he'd just beat the bitch up or do some other shit. If they exclude them because they find them unattractive then why not exclude asians, curries and deformed whites then? If they can afford to exclude a big chunk of the population then might as well go for the whole hog.
 
Volcel if you wouldnt fuck a literal mammoth :feelskek: :feelskek:

A "literal" Mammoth? You really are retarded huh. A BBW is a cute chubby/fat woman. SSBBWS are the extreme shapeless lard asses.

I don't see what's so wrong with going after my looksmatch.
 
They would take their money, they'd just give shitty sex that isn't worth the price they're asking or flat out scam them. What's a guy like him gonna do about it? Nothing, he'll just have to swallow it and move on (and probably rope from embarrasement).

A black gangster on the other hand, well he'd just beat the bitch up or do some other shit. If they exclude them because they find them unattractive then why not exclude asians, curries and deformed whites then? If they can afford to exclude a big chunk of the population then might as well go for the whole hog.
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A "literal" Mammoth? You really are retarded huh. A BBW is a cute chubby/fat woman. SSBBWS are the extreme shapeless lard asses.

I don't see what's so wrong with going after my looksmatch.

Ok iam not into fat foids. As a fit guy, i expect a fit looksmatch foid.
 
Ok iam not into fat foids. As a fit guy, i expect a fit looksmatch foid.

I'm fit as well, but that doesn't look to be in my cards. I just want sex anyway, so it's not going to matter too. If she wants kids, she needs to work that ass out.
 
I'm fit as well, but that doesn't look to be in my cards. I just want sex anyway, so it's not going to matter too. If she wants kids, she needs to work that ass out.

Who am i kidding though, even chubsters reject me on tinder.
 
How many times do I have to go over this

You guys need to stop trying to make your "InLon" (Involuntarily Lonely) BS into "InCel" (Involuntarily Celibate)

CELIBACY RELATES TO SEX (specific and objective criteria) NOT "ACCEPTANCE" OR "LOVE" (vague and subjective criteria)

I see too many idiots adding their own personal addendums as to what inceldom is about WHEN THE DAMN CRITERIA IS IN THE NAME OF THE TERM

INCEL
INVOLUNTARY CELIBACY


Stop trying to add stuff to it so you can include your ridiculous cope of "finding love" as to why you are incel

Also here's the contradiction in your argument that inceldom is about LOVE and HUMAN ACCEPTANCE

By your logic there are Chads and Stacies who can be incel.

If inceldom does not revolve around lack of access to sex, if someone can GET SEX, but is not "LOVED" or "ACCEPTED", THEY ARE INCEL.

If you argue that getting sex by default means you are "loved" and "accepted" by humans, then your argument with me makes even less sense, because that means we are both in agreeance that INCELDOM IS ABOUT SEX, BECAUSE SEX = LOVE AND HUMAN ACCEPTANCE

You've boxed yourself into a corner with a ridiculously contradictory argument

Your retarded definition with SUBJECTIVE CRITERIA is FULL OF HOLES

What is love?

What degrees of acceptance are you limiting your definition around?

You idiots know full well what you're saying makes no sense and its ARBITRARY and leaves a lot of room for anyone to claim inceldom, EVEN PEOPLE WHO CAN GET SEX.
Cope
 
They would take their money, they'd just give shitty sex that isn't worth the price

Whose to say they wouldn't do that to dark skinned guys too, that's my point, you are speaking as if only one kind of negative looks trait would affect how you are treated in the world of prostitution when you say "what does dark skin have to do with anything"
 
Too high inhib to do that.
 
Thats the point i was trying to make. Youre not incel in the same sense that a lot of us are. There is little point in you pretending to belong here.

1. I'm still incel until I can get consistent access to sex

2. You say "like a lot of us are", but a lot of you aren't incel, you are inlon, you're lonely, you want companionship more than sex, that's not really inceldom, especially if you reject chances of sex because it doesn't come with companionship, that is basically being volcel with extra steps involved
 
Paying for Sex is for Cucks. No, thanks.
 
US prices are high enough as it is. Last thing I want is more johns flooding the market and jacking up the cost per session. So more power to you guys. I guess your pride is worth more than sexual pleasure. More for me I guess.
 
Whose to say they wouldn't do that to dark skinned guys too, that's my point, you are speaking as if only one kind of negative looks trait would affect how you are treated in the world of prostitution when you say "what does dark skin have to do with anything"

Well yeah, of course they can give shitty service to blacks. But how do you know they're giving you dry starfish sex (they rarely scam blacks for the reasons I stated above) because you're black and not because you're ugly or short? Unless you asked, you'd never know. The ones who accept black clients are going to hold them to the same merit they hold all other ones, if you're ugly and especially autistic, you will be treated like utter garbage unless you have thousands in your pocket. Because again, incels are a tiny fraction of their income. They can afford to give us shitty sex because a) nobody cares about our opinion anyway b) there's so few of us that 2-3 bad reviews aren't going to matter against 20+ good ones and c) there's better and richer dudes for them to exert their energy on.
 
US prices are high enough as it is. Last thing I want is more johns flooding the market and jacking up the cost per session.

If more guys start fkin escorts, being an escort would be more profitable and there would be more escorts. I wouldnt worry about that. Whats worrysome is the number of guys in the west whod donate money to foids for pictures, etc. If that continues, more foids would stop being escorts and start make onlyfans accounts.
 
Youre not incel in the same sense that a lot of us are. There is little point in you pretending to belong here.

Even if you're right, I still was an incel up until I fucked a whore for the first time, which for me was at 26. That means that up until then I was one of you since many guys here are in their early 20s.

It is true that things are probably very different between a hookercel and a true virgin incel. It is my experience anyway as to me not being a virgin stricto sensu made a big difference. However I do remember very well what it felt like and I often get flashbacks when I read you guys.
Like how seeing PDA used to hurt me. It doesn't anymore, but I very much remember the feel.

That's why I feel I belong here. Besides you keep saying whoremaxxing is not ascension so make up your mind.
 
US prices are high enough as it is. Last thing I want is more johns flooding the market and jacking up the cost per session. So more power to you guys. I guess your pride is worth more than sexual pleasure. More for me I guess.

JFL I guess that's one way to look at it
 
Whats worrysome is the number of guys in the west whod donate money to foids for pictures, etc. If that continues, more foids would stop being escorts and start make onlyfans accounts.
That is indeed scary.
 
If more guys start fkin escorts, being an escort would be more profitable and there would be more escorts. I wouldnt worry about that. Whats worrysome is the number of guys in the west whod donate money to foids for pictures, etc. If that continues, more foids would stop being escorts and start make onlyfans accounts.
Yeah, more likely seeing how mainstream the site is becoming. My local rock station was actually interviewing the mechanic foid. :feelsrope:
 
Even if you're right, I still was an incel up until I fucked a whore for the first time, which for me was at 26. That means that up until then I was one of you since many guys here are in their early 20s.

It is true that things are probably very different between a hookercel and a true virgin incel. It is my experience anyway as to me not being a virgin stricto sensu made a big difference. However I do remember very well what it felt like and I often get flashbacks when I read you guys.
Like how seeing PDA used to hurt me. It doesn't anymore, but I very much remember the feel.

That's why I feel I belong here. Besides you keep saying whoremaxxing is not ascension so make up your mind.

I wasnt talking about escortcels. I was talking about those who only care about sexual gratification as opposed to sexual validation.
Yeah, more likely seeing how mainstream the site is becoming. My local rock station was actually interviewing the mechanic foid. :feelsrope:

This is why the west isnt the best place to escortcel.
 
Besides you keep saying whoremaxxing is not ascension so make up your mind.

I'm starting to realize a lot of these guys have some weird kind of "incel pride", like they pride themselves on the fact that they haven't had sex "the wrong way" and they'll only have it "the right way", JFL at them calling anybody an NPC or blue pilled, they literally can't abandon the old rules they were raised to think
 
I wasnt talking about escortcels. I was talking about those who only care about sexual gratification as opposed to sexual validation.

Oh, my bad. I guess I lost track at some point.
 
I wasnt talking about escortcels. I was talking about those who only care about sexual gratification as opposed to sexual validation.

How much does someone care about sexual validation if they are paying for sex?, if they really cared wouldn't they starve themselves like you?

Oh I'm guessing you can read peoples minds over the internet and gauge how much they care or don't care about validation based on their text based messages to you, and their use of emojis :feelskek:
 
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This is why the west isnt the best place to escortcel.
Yeah it's fucked and I don't do it nearly as much as I used to (dollmaxing) but I just dunno if traveling is worth the hassle of a flight and accomodations. Seems like it'd be a wash when you factor in other costs.
 
JFL at them calling anybody an NPC or blue pilled, they literally can't abandon the old rules they were raised to think

They strike me as the epitome of the "hopeless romantic".
 
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I'm starting to realize a lot of these guys have some weird kind of "incel pride", like they pride themselves on the fact that they haven't had sex "the wrong way" and they'll only have it "the right way", JFL at them calling anybody an NPC or blue pilled, they literally can't abandon the old rules they were raised to think

How are you able to tell which is better when you havent experienced true validational sex? I know a few rich chads IRL who could afford the best looking hookers in town and yet choose to have validational sex with foids via dating apps. Do you think you know something they dont? Are you really ahead of the curve or just a coping retard?
 
Yeah it's fucked and I don't do it nearly as much as I used to (dollmaxing) but I just dunno if traveling is worth the hassle of a flight and accomodations. Seems like it'd be a wash when you factor in other costs.

Language and cultural barriers on top of the cost would make it quite hard.
 
like your average foid a 6 or 5.5 somewhere along that range

I've always been mildly concerned that after too many visits to 8/10+ foids, I won't ever be "satisfied" with one who is too "average".

Of course, I've found that attractiveness is just one of few variables that influence sexual arousal. But still, I'd rather not be a standardcel.
 
Was he on top or bottom?

Phaggot
 
I've always been mildly concerned that after too many visits to 8/10+ foids, I won't ever be "satisfied" with one who is too "average".

Of course, I've found that attractiveness is just one of few variables that influence sexual arousal. But still, I'd rather not be a standardcel.
to me pussy is pussy i don't discriminate on looks much
 
I've always been mildly concerned that after too many visits to 8/10+ foids, I won't ever be "satisfied" with one who is too "average".

Of course, I've found that attractiveness is just one of few variables that influence sexual arousal. But still, I'd rather not be a standardcel.

You rich fuck.
 
I used to (dollmaxing) but I just dunno if traveling is worth the hassle of a flight and accomodations. Seems like it'd be a wash when you factor in other costs.

Indeed travelling just to have sex is terrible. The trip is boring and you spend much more in travel and accommodation than in actual fucking.

Prostitution should be legal everywhere. It's a stupid waste of resources to force men to travel just to satisfy their desire.
 
How are you able to tell which is better when you havent experienced true validational sex?

You seem to be trying to move the goal post a bit, my point has never been "its better", my point has been "Its enjoyable", "its a good purchase", "its a logical choice", its guys like you who are obsessed with 1uping other men on the planet, so you have to get the "best kind of sex" or nothing else

I know a few rich chads IRL who could afford the best looking hookers in town and yet choose to have validational sex with foids via dating apps

Yes, and they do so for many reasons, the primary reason is the same reason why you won't pay for sex, EGO

The difference is though, their ego and pride makes sense, whereas yours doesn't, because you are a genetic failure

Which brings me back to the question I asked you and you didn't answer:
Where do you guys get this huge ego, that's what I'd liked to know, it literally makes no sense for such a failure in life to have so much pride, sometimes I think you guys are normies larping because I can't conceive of where all this pride comes from

What reason do you have to be so prideful?
 
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Yes, and they do so for many reasons, the primary reason is the same reason why you won't pay for sex, EGO

The difference is though, their ego and pride makes sense, whereas yours doesn't, because you are a genetic failure

Which brings me back to the question I asked you and you didn't answer:

What if youre wrong and its not just the ego ? What if validational sex from a foid is much better than transactional sex? Ive been told this by many chads/chadlites who do well on dating apps.

You seem to be trying to move the goal posts a bit, my point has never been "its better", my point has been "Its enjoyable", "its a good purchase", "its a logical choice", its guys like you who are obsessed with 1uping other men on the planet, so you have to get the "best kind of sex" or nothing else

Not really. If i had thought this, i wouldnt be going to escorts. But i dont cope by thinking there isnt a better version of sex simply because i dont have access to it.
 
Prostitution should be legal everywhere. It's a stupid waste of resources to force men to travel just to satisfy their desire.

It should. Some travel is warranted, of course, but for market reasons.
Not really. If i had thought this, i wouldnt be going to escorts. But i dont cope by thinking there isnt a better version of sex simply because i dont have access to it.

I think sex between individuals who are romantic partners is better, if only for the reason that physical intimacy is more awkward between two strangers.

I don't think that sex is inherently better for Chads on one-night stands, though.
 
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if only for the reason that physical intimacy is more awkward between two strangers.
It doesn't always feel awkward. Sometimes it just works.
 
What if youre wrong and its not just the ego ? What if validational sex from a foid is much better than transactional sex? Ive been told this by many chads/chadlites who do well on dating apps

I hope you see the weird irony in trying to argue that satisfaction from validation, and ego, are separate

Being an egoist is what makes validation enjoyable, its ego based satisfaction, ego is inherent to validation, that's the point of it

Not really. If i had thought this, i wouldnt be going to escorts. But i dont cope by thinking there isnt a better version of sex simply because i dont have access to it.

JFL, you actually are coping, you're hoping that there's "something more" when there really isn't
This image D3X posted is very relevant:

A lot of men just have to believe in the magic of "true love" or something better so that you can believe in some fragment of "goodness" in the world, that everything isn't corrupted and its just that you don't have access to it

That in of itself is a cope, there is no good in the world, only special cases, take away all these artificial constructs like laws, jails, policing, and what good is there, what "true love" even takes place?, it doesn't really exist, its those things that are actually "artificial"
 

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