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Blackpill It's time to stop the cope, the TRUE percentage of incel men past age 22 is probably under 10% (STATS INCLUDED)

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Stats are well researched, going to 2015, so admittedly it may be slightly higher today.

None of this "Bu-bu-but 80% men are incels today!" COPE, this cope has got to stop, just embarrassing.

Projection Assumption Cope, some call it Just World Cope, or misery loves company cope.
It's majorly subhuman bluepill cope, and it's gotta stop.

Remember blackpill truth > EVERYTHING
 
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Always said that inkels are a very small percentage of the world male population and that normtards have no significant problems getting in relationships yet schizo autists here will claim that 99% of males are inkels :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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Just 5%? Are they counting prostitutes? If so, them the real numbers would probably be between 15-20%
 
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I still believe its at least a third among young men 18-30
 
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remember seeing a suifuel statistic that said the average Israeli male loses his virginity at the age of 17
 
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AlphaCentauri said:
Always said that inkels are a very small percentage of the world male population and that normtards have no significant problems getting in relationships yet schizo autists here will claim that 99% of males are inkels :lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
:blackpill::blackpill:
 
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Quarantined said:
I still believe its at least a third among young men 18-30
 
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I guess the deeper blackpill in this is that it is our "personality" perhaps. The combination of negative life experiences, awareness about grim reality, and ugliness + age + objevtive clownworld conditions = us
 
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kikecel said:
remember seeing a suifuel statistic that said the average Israeli male loses his virginity at the age of 17
Would be interesting whether it is a median or an average.
Because some people are really early-starters.
Unironically: One of the few non-chads I knew that became extremely successful with women was already consuming hardcore porn in 5th grade (where I first met him; with his level of knowledge the start was probably far earlier) and was already completely interested in girls.
Not a joke, as we were preparing for a presentation in school he took me with him and showed me some of that (mostly BDSM/dick choking, he knew everything about who had the largest dick/shit like that) and he was constantly talking about how older girls are already developing boobs (he even groped some of them allegedly).
Early puberty along with ASPD is one of the few things that could turn an otherwise incel-tier guy (he was chubby, wore glasses, wasn't the tallest) into a slayer.
 
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Incels are a huge minority. It’s the basement dwelling retards who sit on their computers all day and night talking about how it’s over for 40% of men while they haven’t seen the sun in months. Just because you’re blackpilled doesn’t mean you’re not retarded, these are the guys who unironically believe in sub8 theory as well. They’re just jealous of the men who can get relationships so they say that if you’re not some 6’3 nordic god, you might as well rope. Sure normies are not fucking slaying but they’re doing far better than us in terms of having friends and relationships.
 
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Lebensmüder said:
Early puberty along with ASPD is one of the few things that could turn an otherwise incel-tier guy (he was chubby, wore glasses, wasn't the tallest) into a slayer.
I know it's true but it's crazy indeed. I mog him and no female has ever shown any interest in me (i'm 22yo) :feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee:
Broly said:
Incels are a huge minority. It’s the basement dwelling retards who sit on their computers all day and night talking about how it’s over for 40% of men while they haven’t seen the sun in months. Just because you’re blackpilled doesn’t mean you’re not retarded, these are the guys who unironically believe in sub8 theory as well. They’re just jealous of the men who can get relationships so they say that if you’re not some 6’3 nordic god, you might as well rope. Sure normies are not fucking slaying but they’re doing far better than us in terms of having friends and relationships.
Exactly. Over for retardcels indeed :feelshaha::feelshaha:
 
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FuRed said:
None of this "Bu-bu-but 80% men are incels today!" COPE, this cope has got to stop, just embarrassing.
Who the hell is even saying this shit though?

Most men obviously aren't incels, but hypergamy is definitely affecting most men, as most men today are licking up scraps.

A majority of men are definitely struggling in todays dating market, they are "getting something", but "getting something" isn't the definition of "success".

Even the average men today that have "sex lives" don't have satisfactory "sex lives", they are settling way lower than they would have to in the past and these women aren't even virgins.

Lets not even get into the realm of marriage and the quality of marriages most men have today (of which 50% end in divorce and 70% of those divorces are initiated by women)

The black pill isn't just about who can't get sex, its also about how female hypergamy has affected the male collective as a whole.

In the past there were always incels, just much less, and the average men in the past were at least getting a slice of the pie, now average men are getting crumbs.


LASTLY


If you ask a guy who has sex once a month if he's "sexually active" or if he was "sexually active in the last year", he will cope and answer with a resounding YES, because "technically" it is true.

The average man today will speak of whatever scraps he's getting as if its a full course meal, because:
1. Its embarrassing to say otherwise and society shames you for it

2. You have to fake it till you make it

A good example of that is if you ever plan on losing your virginity to a woman that isn't a prostitute, you'll have to keep lying about not being a virgin till you finally lose it.
 
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kikecel said:
remember seeing a suifuel statistic that said the average Israeli male loses his virginity at the age of 17
:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
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BlkPillPres said:
Who the hell is even saying this shit though?
NBAYoungBoy said:
i would say it's closer to 5% who truly "do well" with women

the next 15% do decently with women, but it's still a lot of effort, and if their girlfriend cucks them, it'll take forever to find another one

and the next 80% do terribly with women
 
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Treebarkquartz said:
I guess the deeper blackpill in this is that it is our "personality" perhaps. The combination of negative life experiences, awareness about grim reality, and ugliness + age + objevtive clownworld conditions = us

its everything combined. just being a failure both genetically and socially. it always works both ways..


that being said:
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I still believe its at least a third among young men 18-30
 
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NBAYoungBoy said:
i would say it's closer to 5% who truly "do well" with women

the next 15% do decently with women, but it's still a lot of effort, and if their girlfriend cucks them, it'll take forever to find another one

and the next 80% do terribly with women
He didn't say 80% of men are incel, he said 80% of men do terribly with women, and I'd agree

The majority of men today are getting scraps and settling down with women they wouldn't even look twice at 80 years ago

The average man getting married today has like 70% less sex partners than the woman he's marrying

If he has 7 she has around 24+

No matter what facet of "romantic life" you look at, be it Dating, Marriage, Fucking Around, etc, the average man is doing terribly, and only the top 20% of men are truly enjoying themselves

There's a big difference between "being truly satisfied because you have what you want" AND "being glad you even have anything at all"
 
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kikecel said:
remember seeing a suifuel statistic that said the average Israeli male loses his virginity at the age of 17
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i'm 30 years old.
 
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Yeah we are simply the losers of life. Normies slay while we rot on this shit forum
 
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kikecel said:
remember seeing a suifuel statistic that said the average Israeli male loses his virginity at the age of 17

They tolerate prostitution in that country though in a way they don't in the U.S I believe.
 
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BlkPillPres said:
FuRed @FuRed

He didn't say 80% of men are incel, he said 80% of men do terribly with women, and I'd agree

The majority of men today are getting scraps and settling down with women they wouldn't even look twice at 80 years ago

The average man getting married today has like 70% less sex partners than the woman he's marrying

If he has 7 she has around 24+

No matter what facet of "romantic life" you look at, be it Dating, Marriage, Fucking Around, etc, the average man is doing terribly, and only the top 20% of men are truly enjoying themselves

There's a big difference between "having what you want" and "being glad you even have anything"
True. All men are competing for the small subset of young, in-shape females but few get to be with them. Most women in today’s demographics are overweight and over 30, many with young children, and these are the women your average man eventually is forced to settle for :feelspuke:.
 
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Depends on how you define "incel". Yeah actual trucels are a tiny minority, but if we applied that standard then we'd have to ban 90% of our userbase :smonk:
 
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BarrelStuffer said:
True. All men are competing for the small subset of young, in-shape females but few get to be with them. Most women in today’s demographics are overweight and over 30, many with young children, and these are the women your average man eventually is forced to settle for :feelspuke:.
I agree except for the "forced to settle for" part, if these men want to be delusional emotional idiots that's their choice, nobody is forcing them.

I think what truly defines a man is a ability to adapt, and as men we need to recognize if we exist in an era in which certain choices are logical or not.

We were not born into an era in which dating, marriage or even having children is a logical choice.

But the average man was sold a bill of goods, and raised on this disney dream of a wife and children (myself included).

The difference is, unlike the average man, I acknowledged that it was just that, a dream, and I was simply born in the wrong era to be attached to such a dream, so I changed by goals.

I will not feel sorry for any man that refuses to do the same for reasons of ego, morality, etc.

Any man who wants to blindly chase after the dream we were all raised to have, just because he can't let go, is a fool by choice, willfully ignorant, and there is no person or circumstance that is "forcing" them to do this, its 100% their choice.
 
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beyond repair said:
They tolerate prostitution in that country though in a way they don't in the U.S I believe.
Prostitution in Israel is illegal
 
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BlkPillPres said:
I agree except for the "forced to settle for" part, if these men want to be delusional emotional idiots that's their choice, nobody is forcing them.

I think what truly defines a man is a ability to adapt, and as men we need to recognize if we exist in an era in which certain choices are logical or not.

We were not born into an era in which dating, marriage or even having children is a logical choice.

But the average man was sold a bill of goods, and raised on this disney dream of a wife and children (myself included).

The difference is, unlike the average man, I acknowledged that it was just that, a dream, and I was simply born in the wrong era to be attached to such a dream, so I changed by goals.

I will not feel sorry for any man that refuses to do the same for reasons of ego, morality, etc.

Any man who wants to blindly chase after the dream we were all raised to have, just because he can't let go, is a fool by choice, willfully ignorant, and there is no person or circumstance that is "forcing" them to do this, its 100% their choice.
Idk, I know some average guys in happy relationships. It might crash and burn eventually but at least they’re lucky enough to have one in their prime. I think I’m just gonna fuck escorts if I can’t get a young, fit female within the next few years. Even if in my 30’s some girl suddenly wants me I’ll just pump and dump her. I was willing to get into a long term relationship in my youth but instead I was subjected to celibacy and sitting in my room alone and frustrated.
 
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men are liars i can bet every penny I have that all the men you pass in the street are more likely incels
 
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Sadandangrycel said:
men are liars i can bet every penny I have that all the men you pass in the street are more likely incels
 
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FuRed said:
how is this a cope? do you see many chad looking guys around i think you forget how much chad only these whores are
 
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i don't have a personal grudge with your or anything, but days before i told you you make bluepilled posts and i'd say this is the proof of it.

10% of inceldom worldwide is pretty big number. also as blkpres said, you don't have to be an incel to struggle with dating, most men do nowadays, even if they get to have sex at least once. they end in dead bedroom relationship, get sex less frequently than before, or even despite losing their virginity they may deal with decades of not being able to get sex after that.
 
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The number of incels worldwide is around 100000, you have to stupid to believe that there hundreds of millions of incels, if there was then we wouldn't have a world population of almost 8 billion people
 
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whose stated reason for virginity is something besides religion, health, or timing
Ignoring copers, neither guys who visit escorts nor people who had sex once but can’t even get a girl to look at them now are included in that stat

Despite the name, the common meaning we associate to inceldom is “people (really guys) who want a romantic relationship but can’t find one”. We would need to ditch the name to get rid of straw man arguments, but that’s easier said than done. Ideally, we should just label ourselves as blackpilled, akin to redpillers, rather than incels.

Anyways, if we go by the definition for inceldom those fleeing from r/incels and places like this site use, then the scope of inceldom is larger.

Of course not everyone who’s not in a relationship is like that because they can’t find one, but it’s very telling that there’s such a drastic gap between single females and single men.

The demographics of Internet forums and social media apps do make it seem like inceldom is more common than it is, but I’d estimate it’s closer to a third of young guys than 5 percent.
 
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Just 5%? Are they counting prostitutes? If so, them the real numbers would probably be between 15-20%
I bet they do
 
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solblue said:
Ideally, we should just label ourselves as blackpilled, akin to redpillers, rather than incels.
well that could be bad because this place will get filled with fakecels.
 
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Misanthropy1 said:
well that could be bad because this place will get filled with fakecels.
Also true. We get enough as is anyways jfl. Probably not much we can do against strawman arguments, although something like true forced loneliness (TFL) also describes a similar situation while not mentioning sex at all. Not as catchy though
 
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solblue said:
Probably not much we can do against strawman arguments anyways
we can't do nothing about dishonest retarded people sadly, they will keep slandering and acting dishonest because it's as easy and as accesible as breathing. imagine if being dishonest was illegal, they wouldn't open their mouth ever in their lives
 
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Misanthropy1 said:
i don't have a personal grudge with your or anything, but days before i told you you make bluepilled posts and i'd say this is the proof of it.
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well that could be bad because this place will get filled with fakecels.
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we can't do nothing about dishonest retarded people sadly, they will keep slandering and acting dishonest because it's as easy and as accesible as breathing. imagine if being dishonest was illegal, they wouldn't open their mouth ever in their lives
 
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Treebarkquartz said:
I guess the deeper blackpill in this is that it is our "personality" perhaps. The combination of negative life experiences, awareness about grim reality, and ugliness + age + objevtive clownworld conditions = us
:feelscry::feelsrope:
 
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Luxury said:
Yeah we are simply the losers of life. Normies slay while we rot on this shit forum
:cryfeels::cryfeels::cryfeels:
 
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Murdoch89 said:
if there was then we wouldn't have a world population of almost 8 billion people
Well actually it only takes one man to impregnate multiple women, you are falsely assuming that all of these pregnancies that create the 8 billion are the result of monogamy

I mean just look at American statistics, around 40% of all pregnancies are outside of wedlock, and 15% of men will father children with more than one woman (and that last stat was from fucking 2006, imagine what its like now)

The population would grow just fine even if there was hundreds of millions of incels, because women have always wanted to be in the harems of superior men to begin with

Last time I checked there is a documented 30% global paternity fraud rate, women aren't marrying the men they want to fuck anyways

Its always been an alpha fuxx + beta buxx dual mating strategy
 

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