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Brutal Debunking the big cope that only a minorty of men in 2024 have sex

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One of the biggest copes i have seen making the rounds is that only chads who make up around 20% of men are having sex, The reason that this is cope and isn't just being wrong is that it would be nice to have several other people on our side to maybe one day turn the tide and change how things are done in our society to hopefully put an end to this forced isolation we face from the world.

But this cope, where does it likely come from?
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This image has circulated across the web, and from simply following the trendline one can assume that by now 2024 the rate of male virginity should around the 60s something that I once used to believe.

So what's wrong with this line of thinking.

The graph image is spoofed
One of the easiest ways to trick somebody is take something that is true and put some lies into that truth, I have reason to believe that this image has been altered from the article it actually came from. For starters this image does not appear in the original article it supposedly came from (https://archive.ph/20241108090903/h...icans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/) it's just not there, however a different graph appears on the supposed source of this image that is somewhat similar to the graph above

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It's interesting this graph actually shows the supposed men virginity rate 1% higher then the spoofed image, but pay more attention to this graph. What does it say? "share of men and women between ages 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year" this is not a virginity graph, the title is even different instead of saying Young male virginity on the rise it says "Young men driving the decline in sex". This is completely different then virginity if you got laid when you were 17 in 2017 and didn't get laid when you were 18 in 2018 you are on this graph, If you got laid in 2012 and didn't have any sex in 2018 you are on this graph. This is NOT a graph for virgins.

Now the "Young male virginity on the rise" graph does share the same font as the original graph and looks legit, however it would be easy to figure out the properly font to fake such a graph as the Washington post publicly publishes what fonts it uses https://build.washingtonpost.com/foundations/typography#Font. and even if it didn't https://www.findmyfont.com/ could easily find you the font, or even a font that is a free alternative to the $70 dollar ITC Franklin font that they use in this graph for the title. The other font used in this graph is Franklin Gothic Book which is free to download and comes already packaged in most photo editing tools.

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As you can see it is very easy to fake such a graph, I used Plymouth-Serial-Extrabold for the title here and you probably couldn't tell the difference. The only way you could tell this graph fake if I didn't tell you it was fake is that I purposely made the graph not make sense with the percentage rate of "young men who are blackpilled" going below the number 0 which is impossible


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Furthermore there is more evidence to suggest that the graph is a fake, first of all there are these weird 2 holes in the 10 and 20% lines and their is a the slight cut off on the top of text "2008". also for some reason the 30% line was completely removed. all of these show a sloppy editing job.

But the final blow for this, the ultimate evidence that this is a fake graph is it's actually source Reddit

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/upv1uy/oc_young_male_virginity_on_the_rise/

"[OC]" implies that this graph is a original creation however this is actually just a spoof of a graph that is real and people for the past couple of years have taken this graph as gospel when it actually a fraud.


What are the actual rates

4 hardcore incel 2 1 w640

(https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim)

by looking how this study defines incel, We are still a small minority of men, now the cut off date is 10 years ago but following the trend line starting at 2012 if it were to grow at a continuous rate incels as defined by this graph would be 11% of the male population. still a small minority. It's fair to assume the rate has increased a little more since then so a fair estimate imo would be 16%.

Conclusion
This does not disprove hypergamy but it does recontextualize it by comparing an estimated incel rate of 16% with the infamous OKcupid women vs men rating the opposite genders attractiveness graph

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And we can assume based on how men rate women and how women rate men Hypergamy looks like this

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Most women are settling for men when getting into relationships with men, these men do end up having sex however it's not very frequent and she's not enjoying it which leads to her eventually not having sex with the man and leading to the infamous "dead bedroom" phenomenon. Yes the chad's of the top 20% do get most of the sex from women however chad doesn't fuck everything that moves so the women that are not attractive to the chads aim a little lower and get with normies, these women are attracted to these normie males however most of them would leave those normie men in a instant if chad ever came knocking around.
 
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Will read later, but what i can say is that Chads still make up the majority of sex acts and they get a way higher quality of sex than normies
 
Dnr but I get your point

I think on this platform we're drawing the line between virgin / non-virgin but the reality is more complex than that.

Some men have sex 1 or 2 per year with super ugly females, they would be called "sex havers" on this platform and they would certainly bash incels (to feel better about themselves) even though technically they're at the very bottom of the value ladder.

Then you have all the betabuxxers, those marry 30+ fat leftovers, they would be considered regular sexhavers but they're walking wallets entirely obedient to their fat wives.

The point is that only a very small minority of men are actually able to attract prime females (16-25 yo, slim, hot), and it's purely because of their looks.
 
Its very observable to me that the only male i ever saw that wasn't having sexual encounters was me and only a couple of actual mental retarded dudes. In school? Everybody had sex and talked about it, on the street? 99% of men are well adjusted normalfags that fucked at least once, etc.

This whole cope that the majority of men are like us or becoming like us is very silly and patronising in my eyes
 
1. Old Chads
2. Old betabuxxers
3. situantionships
4. lesbians
5. volcels
 
The point is that only a very small minority of men are actually able to attract prime females (16-25 yo, slim, hot), and it's purely because of their looks.
It's about the whole situation. How looks and status relate to your age, to your situation in life whether you're in school or employment etc, or to the socio-cultural fabric of your country, there's so many factors. What pisses me off about how the BP presents itself is the confusion about those different circumstances. A 35 years old incel is not the same as a 20 years old incel, and debates about the importance of looks vs status vs race or whatever are pointless. It all boils down to society being not pro male enough like it was in the past, and i'd say to those annoying MRA's that yes, some late 20's nobody marrying a prime age woman was privilige, and it was based, even more so cause she was socialized to not even ressent it. "But he had to work for her hurr durr what a slave" fucking retards, you have to work ANYWAY even when you're alone. Muh "tradcon" they'd say, those guys have zero solutions.
 
It's about the whole situation. How looks and status relate to your age, to your situation in life whether you're in school or employment etc, or to the socio-cultural fabric of your country, there's so many factors. What pisses me off about how the BP presents itself is the confusion about those different circumstances. A 35 years old incel is not the same as a 20 years old incel, and debates about the importance of looks vs status vs race or whatever are pointless. It all boils down to society being not pro male enough like it was in the past, and i'd say to those annoying MRA's that yes, some late 20's nobody marrying a prime age woman was privilige, and it was based, even more so cause she was socialized to not even ressent it. "But he had to work for her hurr durr what a slave" fucking retards, you have to work ANYWAY even when you're alone. Muh "tradcon" they'd say, those guys have zero solutions.

I agree with you although I would say society was not "pro male", it was balanced and normal.
Men bring protection and resources, women bring sex and comfort.
Both have to make efforts.
You wish you could fuck with the top tier chad instead of marrying an average guy ?
I wish I could be the King and fuck and the hot sluts in the kingdom.
We don't always get what we want in life.
 
I agree with you although I would say society was not "pro male", it was balanced and normal.
Men bring protection and resources, women bring sex and comfort.
Both have to make efforts.
You wish you could fuck with the top tier chad instead of marrying an average guy ?
I wish I could be the King and fuck and the hot sluts in the kingdom.
We don't always get what we want in life.
Hey that's a based take :feelshmm: yeah it's the modern insane lottery, grind and mandatory male performance (money/status/looks/per soynality) with a very possible heartbreak/divorce rape at the end that makes me see the past as almost super privileged when in reality it was kinda fair.
 
Will read later, but what i can say is that Chads still make up the majority of sex acts and they get a way higher quality of sex than normies
 
Where was that study that said 5% of men have 80% of the sex
 
What about the stat that claims 63% of men are single. Do you think that number also includes men that only have casual sex?
 
It’s very observable to me that the only male i ever saw that wasn't having sexual encounters was me and only a couple of actual mental retarded dudes.
Yeah. This traumatized the fuck out of me when I had this realization in my final year of high school. I went through most of it thinking sex-havers were the minority, and then I started going through the list of all my classmates in my head one day and realized they had all fucked, with the exception of 1 or 2 subhumans. So brutal man…
 
I started going through the list of all my classmates in my head one day and realized they had all fucked, with the exception of 1 or 2 subhumans. So brutal man…
:blackpill::feelsrope: Only other kid that never fucked other than me was another functional autist like me with long haired ginger, but the kicker was he actually at least HAD a gf. I didn't even get that. Its major Ropefuel
 
One of the biggest copes i have seen making the rounds is that only chads who make up around 20% of men are having sex, The reason that this is cope and isn't just being wrong is that it would be nice to have several other people on our side to maybe one day turn the tide and change how things are done in our society to hopefully put an end to this forced isolation we face from the world.

But this cope, where does it likely come from?
View attachment 1331163

This image has circulated across the web, and from simply following the trendline one can assume that by now 2024 the rate of male virginity should around the 60s something that I once used to believe.

So what's wrong with this line of thinking.

The graph image is spoofed
One of the easiest ways to trick somebody is take something that is true and put some lies into that truth, I have reason to believe that this image has been altered from the article it actually came from. For starters this image does not appear in the original article it supposedly came from (https://archive.ph/20241108090903/h...icans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/) it's just not there, however a different graph appears on the supposed source of this image that is somewhat similar to the graph above

View attachment 1331169

It's interesting this graph actually shows the supposed men virginity rate 1% higher then the spoofed image, but pay more attention to this graph. What does it say? "share of men and women between ages 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year" this is not a virginity graph, the title is even different instead of saying Young male virginity on the rise it says "Young men driving the decline in sex". This is completely different then virginity if you got laid when you were 17 in 2017 and didn't get laid when you were 18 in 2018 you are on this graph, If you got laid in 2012 and didn't have any sex in 2018 you are on this graph. This is NOT a graph for virgins.

Now the "Young male virginity on the rise" graph does share the same font as the original graph and looks legit, however it would be easy to figure out the properly font to fake such a graph as the Washington post publicly publishes what fonts it uses https://build.washingtonpost.com/foundations/typography#Font. and even if it didn't https://www.findmyfont.com/ could easily find you the font, or even a font that is a free alternative to the $70 dollar ITC Franklin font that they use in this graph for the title. The other font used in this graph is Franklin Gothic Book which is free to download and comes already packaged in most photo editing tools.

View attachment 1331223

As you can see it is very easy to fake such a graph, I used Plymouth-Serial-Extrabold for the title here and you probably couldn't tell the difference. The only way you could tell this graph fake if I didn't tell you it was fake is that I purposely made the graph not make sense with the percentage rate of "young men who are blackpilled" going below the number 0 which is impossible


View attachment 1331225

Furthermore there is more evidence to suggest that the graph is a fake, first of all there are these weird 2 holes in the 10 and 20% lines and their is a the slight cut off on the top of text "2008". also for some reason the 30% line was completely removed. all of these show a sloppy editing job.

But the final blow for this, the ultimate evidence that this is a fake graph is it's actually source Reddit

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/upv1uy/oc_young_male_virginity_on_the_rise/

"[OC]" implies that this graph is a original creation however this is actually just a spoof of a graph that is real and people for the past couple of years have taken this graph as gospel when it actually a fraud.


What are the actual rates

View attachment 1331241
(https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim)

by looking how this study defines incel, We are still a small minority of men, now the cut off date is 10 years ago but following the trend line starting at 2012 if it were to grow at a continuous rate incels as defined by this graph would be 11% of the male population. still a small minority. It's fair to assume the rate has increased a little more since then so a fair estimate imo would be 16%.

Conclusion
This does not disprove hypergamy but it does recontextualize it by comparing an estimated incel rate of 16% with the infamous OKcupid women vs men rating the opposite genders attractiveness graph

View attachment 1331275

And we can assume based on how men rate women and how women rate men Hypergamy looks like this

View attachment 1331265

Most women are settling for men when getting into relationships with men, these men do end up having sex however it's not very frequent and she's not enjoying it which leads to her eventually not having sex with the man and leading to the infamous "dead bedroom" phenomenon. Yes the chad's of the top 20% do get most of the sex from women however chad doesn't fuck everything that moves so the women that are not attractive to the chads aim a little lower and get with normies, these women are attracted to these normie males however most of them would leave those normie men in a instant if chad ever came knocking around.

lot of rich sub5 men are banging foids
women who gave up on chasing chad just chase these guys
drink and do drugs in order to fuck them because they wouldnt normally ever fuck a sub5 sober
 
I think on this platform we're drawing the line between virgin / non-virgin but the reality is more complex than that.

I agree with this. The virgin/non-virgin dichotomy is a very reductionist way of thinking about the situation. The context in which the sex is taking place is pretty important. I think the set of sex-havers should be divided up based on "men who have had good sex with women that really wanted to fuck them" and "men who have had sex in the context of a betabuxxing relationship or a drunken fling with an unattractive landwhale". I would argue that the gap between those two sets of people is even greater than the gap between the latter and us (virgins).
 
Brutal no-pin pill
 
One of the biggest copes i have seen making the rounds is that only chads who make up around 20% of men are having sex, The reason that this is cope and isn't just being wrong is that it would be nice to have several other people on our side to maybe one day turn the tide and change how things are done in our society to hopefully put an end to this forced isolation we face from the world.

But this cope, where does it likely come from?
View attachment 1331163

This image has circulated across the web, and from simply following the trendline one can assume that by now 2024 the rate of male virginity should around the 60s something that I once used to believe.

So what's wrong with this line of thinking.

The graph image is spoofed
One of the easiest ways to trick somebody is take something that is true and put some lies into that truth, I have reason to believe that this image has been altered from the article it actually came from. For starters this image does not appear in the original article it supposedly came from (https://archive.ph/20241108090903/h...icans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/) it's just not there, however a different graph appears on the supposed source of this image that is somewhat similar to the graph above

View attachment 1331169

It's interesting this graph actually shows the supposed men virginity rate 1% higher then the spoofed image, but pay more attention to this graph. What does it say? "share of men and women between ages 18 and 30 reporting no sex in the past year" this is not a virginity graph, the title is even different instead of saying Young male virginity on the rise it says "Young men driving the decline in sex". This is completely different then virginity if you got laid when you were 17 in 2017 and didn't get laid when you were 18 in 2018 you are on this graph, If you got laid in 2012 and didn't have any sex in 2018 you are on this graph. This is NOT a graph for virgins.

Now the "Young male virginity on the rise" graph does share the same font as the original graph and looks legit, however it would be easy to figure out the properly font to fake such a graph as the Washington post publicly publishes what fonts it uses https://build.washingtonpost.com/foundations/typography#Font. and even if it didn't https://www.findmyfont.com/ could easily find you the font, or even a font that is a free alternative to the $70 dollar ITC Franklin font that they use in this graph for the title. The other font used in this graph is Franklin Gothic Book which is free to download and comes already packaged in most photo editing tools.

View attachment 1331223

As you can see it is very easy to fake such a graph, I used Plymouth-Serial-Extrabold for the title here and you probably couldn't tell the difference. The only way you could tell this graph fake if I didn't tell you it was fake is that I purposely made the graph not make sense with the percentage rate of "young men who are blackpilled" going below the number 0 which is impossible


View attachment 1331225

Furthermore there is more evidence to suggest that the graph is a fake, first of all there are these weird 2 holes in the 10 and 20% lines and their is a the slight cut off on the top of text "2008". also for some reason the 30% line was completely removed. all of these show a sloppy editing job.

But the final blow for this, the ultimate evidence that this is a fake graph is it's actually source Reddit

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/upv1uy/oc_young_male_virginity_on_the_rise/

"[OC]" implies that this graph is a original creation however this is actually just a spoof of a graph that is real and people for the past couple of years have taken this graph as gospel when it actually a fraud.


What are the actual rates

View attachment 1331241
(https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim)

by looking how this study defines incel, We are still a small minority of men, now the cut off date is 10 years ago but following the trend line starting at 2012 if it were to grow at a continuous rate incels as defined by this graph would be 11% of the male population. still a small minority. It's fair to assume the rate has increased a little more since then so a fair estimate imo would be 16%.

Conclusion
This does not disprove hypergamy but it does recontextualize it by comparing an estimated incel rate of 16% with the infamous OKcupid women vs men rating the opposite genders attractiveness graph

View attachment 1331275

And we can assume based on how men rate women and how women rate men Hypergamy looks like this

View attachment 1331265

Most women are settling for men when getting into relationships with men, these men do end up having sex however it's not very frequent and she's not enjoying it which leads to her eventually not having sex with the man and leading to the infamous "dead bedroom" phenomenon. Yes the chad's of the top 20% do get most of the sex from women however chad doesn't fuck everything that moves so the women that are not attractive to the chads aim a little lower and get with normies, these women are attracted to these normie males however most of them would leave those normie men in a instant if chad ever came knocking around.

High IQ post
 
Very good post. I have made post about the fact that incels are a very small minority especially as age goes up, even the amount of men that ascend between 18-22 is quite high. I wish more men were incel but if you go outside you realize we are a very strange minority group.
 
Its very observable to me that the only male i ever saw that wasn't having sexual encounters was me and only a couple of actual mental retarded dudes. In school? Everybody had sex and talked about it, on the street? 99% of men are well adjusted normalfags that fucked at least once, etc.

This whole cope that the majority of men are like us or becoming like us is very silly and patronising in my eyes
In my highschool only around 1/3 of guys ever had a gf and college was maybe 50%
 

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