Islam is really easy to disprove and I find it strange people actually believe it.

[R(p)apist1488]

WE have documents literally written by Jesus's followers and people who knew them that all agree "yes Jesus died" Islamic replacement theory (that Jesus didn't get crucified) is so easily disproven with 5 minutes of research.

Read St. Clement, St. Ignatius, and St. Polycarp all of them are writting in the 1st or early 2nd century about Jesus dying on the cross and they knew Jesus's followers.

 

[Caichan]

Christianity is hardly better

 

[gymletethnicel]

I am ex-Muslim, but this is retarded Christcope.

 

[R(p)apist1488]

Christianity is hardly better

ATheism is even worse teehee

 

[R(p)apist1488]

I am ex-Muslim, but this is retarded Christcope.

Even non Christians believe what I just said. It's a generally accepted fact that Jesus was real and died on the cross and only much later did people come up with this other view.

 

[Zionist]

I am ex-Muslim, but this is retarded Christcope.

Stfu sandnigger

 

[Caichan]

ATheism

Just capitalizing letters

teehee

Just using terms you don’t know the meaning of

But please explain how

 

[cathuluelitist]

Christianity is hardly better

It's much better in fact, lol.

 

[cathuluelitist]

WE have documents literally written by Jesus's followers and people who knew them that all agree "yes Jesus died" Islamic replacement theory (that Jesus didn't get crucified) is so easily disproven with 5 minutes of research.

Read St. Clement, St. Ignatius, and St. Polycarp all of them are writting in the 1st or early 2nd century about Jesus dying on the cross and they knew Jesus's followers.

Islamist are low IQ and haven't produced anything of substance in the 1000 years of its existence.

 

[Caichan]

It's much better in fact, lol.

please explain how

 

[R(p)apist1488]

Just capitalizing letters


Just using terms you don’t know the meaning of

But please explain how

If you think everything can come from nothing you're retarded. Simple as. We literally have never observed that, so if it's something that can happen why haven't we ever seen it? Shit just pop into existence.

 

[cathuluelitist]

Salafist litterally beleive we are made of clay. These are not humans and shouldn't be treated as such.

 

[Onlywaifusareforme]

(Using my knowledge from Islam class), Jesus didn't get crucified. Jesus was going to be persecuted but Allah protected him and ascended him. From what I remember, they hung up a man they confused for Jesus. There are other ways you can find to disprove Islam but saying Jesus being never crucified is one of them isn't right

 

[Caichan]

If you think everything can come from nothing you're retarded. Simple as. We literally have never observed that, so if it's something that can happen why haven't we ever seen it? Shit just pop into existence.

The Big Bang theory does not state that everything came from nothing.

And even if it did, how is that theory less believable than the stories you hear in the Bible?

 

[fokusin]

Christcucks believe in Paul who was against him, Jesus was spreading the oneness of God

 

[fokusin]

They hung up a man they confused for Jesus

 

[R(p)apist1488]

(Using my knowledge from Islam class), Jesus didn't get crucified. Jesus was going to be persecuted but Allah protected him and ascended him. From what I remember, they hung up a man they confused for Jesus. There are other ways you can find to disprove Islam but saying Jesus being never crucified is one of them isn't right

Right, but according to Islam Jesus's followers knew the truth, so why did their subsequent followers (Polycarp, Clement, etc) say he died?

 

[R(p)apist1488]

Christcucks believe in Paul who was against him, Jesus was spreading the oneness of God

Except Clement didn't even know Paul to my knowledge, he was a follower of Peter and he believed Jesus died.

 

[R(p)apist1488]

The Big Bang theory does not state that everything came from nothing.

And even if it did, how is that theory less believable than the stories you hear in the Bible?

I literally wasn't talking about the Big Bang, I was talking about atheism.

 

[fokusin]

Except Clement didn't even know Paul to my knowledge, he was a follower of Peter and he believed Jesus died.

Jesus wasn't crucified

 

[Onlywaifusareforme]

Right, but according to Islam Jesus's followers knew the truth, so why did their subsequent followers (Polycarp, Clement, etc) say he died?

From what I remember, the issue of "Was Jesus crucified" was unsolved until the Quran came. Before then, even the people who did know about Jesus were unsure if it was truly Jesus that was crucified. I don't remember there being anything saying "Jesus's followers knew the truth" but I am just using my knowledge from my Islam class here.

 

[cathuluelitist]

Stfu sandnigger

 

[R(p)apist1488]

From what I remember, the issue of "Was Jesus crucified" was unsolved until the Quran came. Before then, even the people who did know about Jesus were unsure if it was truly Jesus that was crucified. I don't remember there being anything saying "Jesus's followers knew the truth" but I am just using my knowledge from my Islam class here.

All good, there were debates as to whether Jesus's crucifixion was some sort of illusion, but these actually came *later* not earlier. Early on his crucifixion was univerally accepted and in particular by those who knew his followers (Clement, Polycarp, etc)

 

[gymletethnicel]

Even non Christians believe what I just said. It's a generally accepted fact that Jesus was real and died on the cross and only much later did people come up with this other view.

Your whole thread is dumb because it just shows your lack of understanding Islamic theology. If you understood this wouldn’t even be an argument.

 

[R(p)apist1488]

Jesus wasn't crucified

Me when I make an assertion without evidence

 

[gymletethnicel]

(Using my knowledge from Islam class), Jesus didn't get crucified. Jesus was going to be persecuted but Allah protected him and ascended him. From what I remember, they hung up a man they confused for Jesus. There are other ways you can find to disprove Islam but saying Jesus being never crucified is one of them isn't right

truthnuke

 

[R(p)apist1488]

Your whole thread is dumb because it just shows your lack of understanding Islamic theology. If you understood this wouldn’t even be an argument.

I want to say that *if* I am misunderstanding please tell me and explain what I am misunderstanding.

 

[gymletethnicel]

Stfu sandnigger

t.aipactard

 

[gymletethnicel]

I want to say that *if* I am misunderstanding please tell me and explain what I am misunderstanding.

Islam never denies someone got crucified, but doesn’t accept Jesus got crucified and killed and instead it was an illusion, so someone got crucified in Jesus his place.

 

[R(p)apist1488]

Islam never denies someone got crucified, but doesn’t accept Jesus got crucified and killed and instead it was an illusion, so someone got crucified in Jesus his place.

I know that, my whole point was that it was Jesus who died because his followers all say it was him that died, not someone else. Unless you want to say Jesus decieved his followers or his followers all just lied or something. Did you even read my arguements?

 

[DCI Gene Hunt]

Exactly

 

[gymletethnicel]

I know that, my whole point was that it was Jesus who died because his followers all say it was him that died, not someone else. Emunless you want to say Jesus decieved his followers or his followers all just lied or something. Did you even read my arguements?

If the Qur’an explicitly says it was an illusion, then it is not a contradiction. Or are you saying that God does not have the ability to do that?

 

[retributor]

does this really matter thoughbeit? ethically christianity is a cuckold fetish compared to islam

 

[ConservativeCel]

Islam is simply dumb. Imagine that: an all-powerful God created the universe, actively leads people (without Allah's intent nothing could ever happen in the universe), then he sends prophets, the last and the best one being Muhammad.

Then this Muhammad keeps preaching and transmitting Allah's message, and this message is above all the demand to worship Him and submit to Him and hate everyone who does not do so. Based on Quran you could say this Allah must be a very egocentric and narcissistic person: constantly bragging about how mighty and awesome in absolutely any respect he is.

So this Allah is like a weird puppeteer and the single most important criterion of who is a good person and who is bad is simply being as submissive to Allah as possible.

 

[R(p)apist1488]

does this really matter thoughbeit? ethically christianity is a cuckold fetish compared to islam

No, have you ever read any Christian writings or just Nietzsche? You should read "What Nietzsche Got Right" by Father Dweight Longnecker.

 

[R(p)apist1488]

If the Qur’an explicitly says it was an illusion, then it is not a contradiction. Or are you saying that God does not have the ability to do that?

No, I'm saying it contradicts history. It didn't happen, muhammad was wrong and the church fathers and The Bible are right.

 

[wanghaf88]

Just capitalizing letters


Just using terms you don’t know the meaning of

But please explain how

Ground truth.

 

[Lo3e]

Christ mogs Islam

 

[4RAB.GUY]

WE have documents literally written by Jesus's followers and people who knew them that all agree "yes Jesus died" Islamic replacement theory (that Jesus didn't get crucified) is so easily disproven with 5 minutes of research.

Read St. Clement, St. Ignatius, and St. Polycarp all of them are writting in the 1st or early 2nd century about Jesus dying on the cross and they knew Jesus's followers.

You retarded ape, people saw a different person (who is most likely judas) in the crucifixion, the reason historians claimed Jesus was crucified is because people shared the story about a guy getting crucified while looking exactly like Jesus by a miracle from god, the disciples knew that Jesus will be saved and will not be crucified and they preached monotheism, but retarded greek pagans who became christians made whole stories about them and claimed they preached Jesus' crucifixion