Venting Is this society punishing shyness ?

[grondilu]

Truecels will probably not like this thread as to them, being shy is not at all the reason of their inceldom, but they should probably still sympathize because no matter how ugly a guy is, he can still in theory ascend by thugmaxxing, can't he ?

Anyway, for others who think their shyness is the main reason for their inceldom, I want to ask : don't you think society is punishing shy young men and rewarding jerks ? If so, isn't that messed up ?

A shy young man is condemned to spend all his teen years not interacting with the opposite sex. He then fails to learn how to interact with women and once an adult, he has even less chance to ascend. It's a vicious circle and if he is stupid enough to let anyone know his shameful predicament, he is being ruthlessly mocked.

Fuck this shit. Shouldn't the lack of aggressiveness in character be a virtue instead of subject of mockery ? I mean, people would say it is more of a lack of courage, but isn't there the same kind of distinction here between the courage of thief and the courage of say a firefighter ?

Shy men's only hope for ascension is that a woman takes them in pity and makes the first step. How pathetic is that ?

IMHO, shy men should just be allowed to be themselves but that should not mean they should have to withstand the emotional agony of ignoring sex. They should be allowed and encouraged to pay for what they are unable to get for free.

 

[TheReaper]

I've never seen a high tier man who was shy to the point of being socially awkward.
what I mean is that shyness is not the main cause of inceldom the real issue is not being good looking enough to compensate for your flaws.
if a woman truly likes you she will help open yourself with her, and she will go out of her way the make you feel good,again the problem is that your looks aren't enough to create this type of strong/primal attraction.

 

[grondilu]

if a woman truly likes you she will help open yourself with her, and she will go out of her way the make you feel good,again the problem is that your looks aren't enough to create this type of strong/primal attraction.

Normies ascend without being sexually attractive, though. They compensate by having a social life and making the right moves at the right time. The women they catch are not sexually attracted but they feel comfortable enough to let the guy do his thing.

 

[Joker]

Shy men's only hope for ascension is that a woman takes them in pity and makes the first step. How pathetic is that ?

there's literally no hope

 

[inceldaygamer_]

I've never seen a high tier man who was shy to the point of being socially awkward.
what I mean is that shyness is not the main cause of inceldom the real issue is not being good looking enough to compensate for your flaws.
if a woman truly likes you she will help open yourself with her, and she will go out of her way the make you feel good,again the problem is that your looks aren't enough to create this type of strong/primal attraction.

I'm not really convinced of this. Apart from my nose I look pretty normal.

I think a lot of incels are simply COPEcels who use the blackpill to cover up for other deficiencies.

I am a shycel myself and I really can't figure out how one would even meet enough foids to find one that likes him before getting #metoo'ed.

 

[Jazavac]

It punishes weakness, and shyness makes you look weak.

 

[TheReaper]

Normies ascend without being sexually attractive, though. They compensate by having a social life and making the right moves at the right time.

yes some extroverted normies are able to manipulating women into liking them, but this won't bring to a happy ltr in my opinion.
primal attraction is always there while attraction gained through manipulation can easily fade away.

 

[grayjedi90]

I think the real issue is that we live in world made for extroverted people. Being extrovert and outgoing is valued beyond anything. Introverted and shy people just don't fit in. You'll have trouble at work, club, bar etc.

 

[grondilu]

I think the real issue is that we live in world made for extroverted people. Being extrovert and outgoing is valued beyond anything. Introverted and shy people just don't fit in. You'll have trouble at work, club, bar etc.

It is just gynocracy at work, IMHO.

Women are social animals, much more than men. In a more patriarchal society, ugly or shy men would just fuck whores, they would get far easier employment because there would not be a barrage of females at human resources checking for attractiveness and politeness during recruitment.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Truecels will probably not like this thread as to them, being shy is not at all the reason of their inceldom, but they should probably still sympathize because no matter how ugly a guy is, he can still in theory ascend by thugmaxxing, can't he ?

Anyway, for others who think their shyness is the main reason for their inceldom, I want to ask : don't you think society is punishing shy young men and rewarding jerks ? If so, isn't that messed up ?

A shy young man is condemned to spend all his teen years not interacting with the opposite sex. He then fails to learn how to interact with women and once an adult, he has even less chance to ascend. It's a vicious circle and if he is stupid enough to let anyone know his shameful predicament, he is being ruthlessly mocked.

Fuck this shit. Shouldn't the lack of aggressiveness in character be a virtue instead of subject of mockery ? I mean, people would say it is more of a lack of courage, but isn't there the same kind of distinction here between the courage of thief and the courage of say a firefighter ?

Shy men's only hope for ascension is that a woman takes them in pity and makes the first step. How pathetic is that ?

IMHO, shy men should just be allowed to be themselves but that should not mean they should have to withstand the emotional agony of ignoring sex. They should be allowed and encouraged to pay for what they are unable to get for free.

I think society is making shy boys and at the same time punishing them. In school you get told that masculinity is bad and that you should let girls take more space etc. While at the same time you won't get a job if you're shy, hard time making friends, girls will despise you.

 

[Ropemaxx]

Shyness is NEVER the reason for inceldom. I've seen millions of shy chads slaying. Sure i agree shyness is a negative trait and lowers your smv but its not the be all end all like looks.

 

[skohlkal]

Women could end bullying tomorrow if they simply stopped rewarding violence with sex.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Truecels will probably not like this thread as to them, being shy is not at all the reason of their inceldom, but they should probably still sympathize because no matter how ugly a guy is, he can still in theory ascend by thugmaxxing, can't he ?

Anyway, for others who think their shyness is the main reason for their inceldom, I want to ask : don't you think society is punishing shy young men and rewarding jerks ? If so, isn't that messed up ?

A shy young man is condemned to spend all his teen years not interacting with the opposite sex. He then fails to learn how to interact with women and once an adult, he has even less chance to ascend. It's a vicious circle and if he is stupid enough to let anyone know his shameful predicament, he is being ruthlessly mocked.

Fuck this shit. Shouldn't the lack of aggressiveness in character be a virtue instead of subject of mockery ? I mean, people would say it is more of a lack of courage, but isn't there the same kind of distinction here between the courage of thief and the courage of say a firefighter ?

Shy men's only hope for ascension is that a woman takes them in pity and makes the first step. How pathetic is that ?

IMHO, shy men should just be allowed to be themselves but that should not mean they should have to withstand the emotional agony of ignoring sex. They should be allowed and encouraged to pay for what they are unable to get for free.

Yes since society is imposing hyper femininity as standard and hyper femininity basically means simple emotions/no real long term sentiment/lack of insight/social skills/lack of analytical skills.

Also as an aspiefuck i'm not shy at all i just can't vibrate like the social group does so i'm sometimes uber high inhib and i feel bad staying around people who are reacting in a very intimate and emotional way and sometimes i just get low inhib as a psycopath and tell everything i think getting pleasure from pissing off retarded normies especially on politics or relationships and foids

 

[ionlycopenow]

I think the real issue is that we live in world made for extroverted people. Being extrovert and outgoing is valued beyond anything. Introverted and shy people just don't fit in. You'll have trouble at work, club, bar etc.

It's over when you dont even get pms on incel forums too

 

[Deleted member 18435]

Women could end bullying tomorrow if they simply stopped rewarding violence with sex.

 

[Deleted member 8884]

Shyness will never be seen as a positive trait within a male.

Even if "shy chad" existed all it would take is for extroverted chad to mog him and he'll be cucked