I agree but all of these require money, skills and other things that depend on already existing mainstream system in which I am lost, this is why escape into forest seems like fair option and more realistic than finding parallel society.
I ensure you I am not shitposting, my style of writing is by using provocative parabolic language in order to highlight underlying problems, I move overtone window trough my black and white language, provoking people like you to answer in a way that is moderate and helpful, I think we can exchange few words on this topic? On the topic of finding escape from mainstream society in case of person like me that doesn’t really have much to lose.
Haha of course I understand your hyperbole. Yet still I urge you to approach this very complex topic slowly and with care for the nuance. It takes time.
On the issue of requiring skill and money, that is precisely the point of taking a communal approach. These problems, addressed honestly, require a collection of skills that no individual could possibly harness all on their own. The whole purpose of a break away *society*, would be to connect with like minded individuals who could help organize an entire sandbox society of their own. That means a need for medical expertise, spiritual expertise, entrepreneurial expertise, legal expertise, wildlife expertise, etc. Literally everything needed to survive.
Look, we are adapted to modern convenience and interdependence, and as much as we may see separation as preferable *socially*, the survival burden needs to be examined honestly, as it would wear heavily on anyone wishing to live apart from the mainstream. In an ideal break away society, we don't want to be severed from human contact, we just want to be connected to people who understand us and why we are all choosing to live differently.
Can we team up then? Why women could? Why blacks could? Why gays could? But never us, never non-chad ugly men, always we are cursed, we are abused both by men and women and everyone wants us dead, maybe we should for once go somewhere to the countryside and have damn wheat fields, no ID, no bank accounts
This is the hard problem of the incel predicament. We have loads of wonderful countercultural ideas, and lots of fervor for the cause, but are ultimately still rather amateurish in our approach. This community is diabolicaly marred by the hard times we have each experienced, which engenders a kind of pathologically low self worth, as well as the popularizing of rather counter productive coping mechanisms. Our appetite for self deprecation, for example, resembles in actuality, something more like abject self degradation. Its too much.
There have been a number of noteworthy, but unfortunately casually minded, influencers who have emerged from this space. However, very few competent leaders have come from the black pill. To make this next step, we will need superior leadership.
“If you are honest with yourself however, you will also be able to acknowledge that that isn't really what you want.“ I want muscle, natural 1000ng/dl testosterone, 130IQ, 20cm penis, 190cm height, blond hair and blue eyes and Big Mac and fries as well
Again I know you are being hyperbolic, but take a minute to remind yourself that you don't actually want any of those things. The holy grail for any human being to achieve from a relationship is simply to be accepted fully for you really are, much akin to the way that a child receives *relatively* unconditional love from their parent.
It does not matter *one bit* that this may seem more difficult to achieve as a sub 5, for it is still absolutely, and *necessarily* the goal to pursue.
We sometimes have to get out of the mind set of being "realistic", in favor of being aspirational.
To say shortly, there is no scenario that would satisfy be but there may be scenario that won’t make me eternally suffer
I myself am continuing to mind maxx this whole break away society concept, as well as my own personal fitness to attempt to realize it.
I would suggest that you acknowledge that there is no immediate solution to this very complex problem. Rather, it is a dream that requires the commitment of such a radical dreamer. Developing your knowledge base as well as your emotional wherewithal are both very real aspects to this "mind maxxing". That, after all is why monastic types, for example, take their journeys through life so slowly and with such consideration. Allow yourself to dream a little and open up your imagination and let the ideas cultivate into something to aspire too.
When the time becomes ripe, I am sure that a community will continue to foster around this very real desire to abandon the corrupt society we were all born into for something more promising.
Lets continue to be in touch and share ideas.
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