This was the same problem with r/antiwork. In fact they chose a guy to go on fox news, completely unprepared, and the subreddit was then taken even less seriously
On other hand Austrian painter was also totally unprepared, also artistic mind so totally detached from mindset of politics, and he succeeded, so, I think all in all it rather boils down to intelligence and wit, not to proper research, because you can only research things that already tried to exist and failed
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Remember, both the Portuguese and the Spanish explorer's (so both founding a new nation and conquering/negotiating with existing ones) were sponsored by their home governments. So they planned like hell and were as well resourced as could possibly be. Not to say that there aren't counter points.
I'm not one to call time so early on ones prospects. Even at 50+, if motivated, there's always something to strive for and thus, always something to lose. This isn't an escape cope, its a genuine desire to transcend and live at a higher level, not a lower one.
But I agree that in general there is many idiots that represent larger groups of interest, like Fuentes, Tate (do not accuse me of redpill, I am not) that are clowns and idiots but represent interests of valid groups and views (so called by feminists “manosphere”)
I understand you, for me it’s more of an escape cope because as I said I am quite young and broke, but I understand how someone may aim for better than basic survival and how someone would need thorough plan.
I just want to tell you about feminist sorority houses, they didn’t plan for years but they succeeded, they made their parallel societies often even with male chaperone for legal reasons
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Being taken seriously by the blue pill is not particularly the priority. We ought to learn to take ourselves more seriously first. We have resources of our own via our people, and ought to learn how to make use of them.
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Perfectly said, it’s not about if blue pill takes us seriously it’s about not thinking unseriously of ourselves just because blue pill doesn’t take us seriously
Can you promise me to text me and invite me if you manage to create some shelter or society? As I can see that maybe you are the brains here after all, unironically
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I'm in my mid thirties, so I get the daunting mess of the world you are looking out upon. At 22, I was getting whollopped by a dreadful break up and first time exposure to the personality disorders.
Take as much time as you need with this. You are at the age where you are only just grasping what it means to operate in the adult world, so you won't want to pressurize yourself too much just yet. Its certainly a marathon life, not a sprint, although the pressure can make it seem like we need more immediate results than we actually do.
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Don't worry man I wouldn't leave you out of this. I'm certainly taking seriously how to generate more interest in this type of a communal effort, just early doors is all.
Personality disorders you say? Which is your Pokémon on these matters?
I'm in my mid thirties, so I get the daunting mess of the world you are looking out upon. At 22, I was getting whollopped by a dreadful break up and first time exposure to the personality disorders.
Take as much time as you need with this. You are at the age where you are only just grasping what it means to operate in the adult world, so you won't want to pressurize yourself too much just yet. It’s certainly a marathon life, not a sprint, although the pressure can make it seem like we need more immediate results than we actually do.
Plus don’t say you had a breakup because puritan inquisitors of inceldom will say “umm actually it means you are volcel
” But seriously, I get it man, but for some people life ends earlier than for others, I am not whining, but try to take my situation seriously as I am not exaggerating either, you know what I mean, you would think a young adult would exaggerate, fair, healthy assumption of yours, can’t criticize it for real.
Can you create some chat, group etc? I promise not to spam, not to even text a lot, but I think you need to collect interested people in one place because people tend to forget, it’s not always that people are hostile to idea like ours, sometimes they just go “yeah yeah I like it, whatever, I don’t care” out of doubt
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Personality disorders you say? Which is your Pokémon on these matters?
Plus don’t say you had a breakup because puritan inquisitors of inceldom will say “umm actually it means you are volcel
BPD mostly
. Dark days indeed.The incel community needs a mix of experience and non experience so we have enough perspective with which to understand the world. My experience is so tiny I refuse to be gate kept out of the one place that makes any sense to me, lol.
Yeah I'm just mulling over the best forum for doing so. It will come soon tho, watch this space.
i have advice but its kinda specific only
get a sailboat can be a cheap one ( if you completely leave society i gaurentee with the money you can buy)
learn to sail well and then go off into remote areas where no one can reach and live off land and you can go to shore for provisions if needed
Lucky lucky guy, I certainly am a narcissist…BPD mostly
The incel community needs a mix of experience and non experience so we have enough perspective with which to understand the world. My experience is so tiny I refuse to be gate kept out of the one place that makes any sense to me, lol.
Yeah I'm just mulling over the best forum for doing so. It will come soon tho, watch this space.
Yeah man don’t create a new forum, it is frowned upon to escape taxation, ID, all of that even tho we have only good intentions, if you make forum about escaping society expect surveillance, hacker attacks, legal battles, rather make it a small group on some private messaging platform where we, the interested, could just join
Of course as first step, alright? I am not saying not to ever make any forum on that, just it may be a bad first step to start, unless you are a lawyer
I appreciate any advice
I see, there are two problems
1. Marine wildlife observation and programmes that look for missing people, they would try to find you and if you tell them you just chosen to live like that they would assume you went crazy and in fact are indeed a shipwrecked person.
2. Many species of snake, insects etc in such areas are very dangerous, I know we got nothing to lose, just saying that it can be an obstacle
Can I brutally masturbate to a foid on your avi (just kidding man, chill, chill)
But this is good advice, I find it correct
many people live full time on a sailboat i promise you they will understand and its not that common for them to just be there in a very remote area searching for you unless they have other reason to
i guess there could be dangerous wildlife but it depends on where you are in an area like french polynesia its virtually non existent
Where do I get a boat tho
I know I may be too much obsessed with religion, but how can you be Christian in your situation?
because unlike what alot of christians will say i dont know everything i dont know why god didnt make me a chad but instead put me on this path but i have faith that there is good reason
Alright but aren’t we satans made to be ugly evil satans just so chads and Stacys can go to heaven?
Valid, but a cope
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That's a nice attitude. I welcome your positive outlook
You’re an optimist? Please don’t
i wouldnt say that it helping to cope would make it false to believe
boat site or facebook directly from the person or in person at a marina
Alright, that’s not a dumb idea.
did you notice they banned the guy here? The one that discussed planning finding a group of people willing to escape society?
In America it do be possible, I am EU tho, so it’s a bit more difficult because our countries are smaller
My bad this was a bad example, since both Fox News and r/antiwork are bluepilled. Fox News has a bunch of harpy women as anchors, as for r/antiwork, posts mentioning MGTOW are usually downvoted to oblivion (it's a leftist sub).
My concern is more regarding the lack of process/application/leadership, and you've touched some of those points. The only thing I can do from my side is continue to accumulate data and knowledge, and share it on this forum. Most of the information is navigational, i.e. what to do in society until you're able to leave it. This was a very painful thread to make, and there's even worse stuff on the way, but hopefully they expose pitfalls/traps that some of us could fall into.
My advice is move to a country with a weak central / federal government. Local governments should leave you alone if you want to live in the forest, in the mountains, in the desert, etc.
Where, no such country exists
I plan to move to Afghanistan. Most of the countries where you can live your life unmolested by the government are Muslim majority countries in the Middle East. Like Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. - SEA alternatives are rural Cambodia, Thailand, etc.
Only western governments care enough about the animals and nature to use heat cameras to see what's going on in the middle of the woods. If other countries tried this the cameras would be stolen and stripped for parts.
Do you live in the new world or old
Yea I had the same plan but its hard to live there as white person
Pashtuns and Persians consider themselves Aryan and both are considered Aryan people(s) so I think I have a chance at it.
Then let’s plan how to
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