Three is no evidence that race determines your IQ. You are missing the point.
Based Iqs in China weren't always high. They became high as a result of living conditions improving. This is evidence that race realism is bullshit
As I’ve said before, the study shows that race determinism in relation to IQ by analyzing polygenic scores, then tracking alleles associated with IQ across different populations. The evidence points to a strong correlation between the frequency of these alleles and national IQ levels.
The Genetic variations in alleles for IQ for each race determine IQ, and since these variations differ across races, it follows that race plays a role in IQ determination.
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>Race is genetic
>Africa, India some of the most genetically diverse regions
>Make it make sense
That aside, grouping race like that produces inherently flawed data.
This is coming from Ulster Institute of research. Are you aware they have a right wing bias?
You're right that Africa and India are genetically diverse regions, and I agree that grouping races too broadly can lead to oversimplified conclusions. Genetic diversity within a population doesn't necessarily negate the role that certain genetic factors play in IQ. It’s about specific alleles and their frequencies across different groups, not the total genetic diversity within a race.
If specific alleles tied to lower IQ are consistently found in African populations, while higher IQ alleles show up in European and Asian groups across the board on average, then it points to race playing a more significant role in IQ differences than just ethnic distinctions. If different ethnicities within a broad racial group are showing similar patterns in allele distribution, it seems pretty logical to assume that It's race when looking at larger genetic patterns has a substantial impact on these differences.
Also, how does their genetic diversity refute the idea that ethnic groups within a given race tend to share similar allele frequencies?
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The potential right-wing bias of an organization like the Ulster Institute of Research doesn’t necessarily invalidate their findings since their methodology is sound. The findings could still reflect an objective reality, regardless of the ideological leanings of the researchers.
That's like saying evolutionary psychologists findings on female nature and mate selection are invalidated because of their right leaning political bias, with right leaning men being more likely to believe in such things.
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THeir methodology is flawed. The PGS is for an individual not an entire population. Using PGS to generalize a group of people is bad research. Lastly, the source relies on European genetic data. This means comparing Europeans to non European groups will lead to inaccurate results. Why? Because when you rely on European genetic data you will miss the genetic variants that exist in other races that are not accounted for. Not all races have the same genetic information, there will be variation. This study misuses genetic data to push a false narrative.
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Yes, I understand that PGS is used to assess individuals, but it also provides valuable insights when averaged across populations.
If the same trends in PGS scores consistently appear within a racial or ethnic group, it reveals a noticeable pattern. Large-scale studies routinely use PGS to examine genetic trends across different populations. While individual variation exists, the average differences between groups can still be analyzed to detect meaningful genetic patterns.
PGS has been widely used in medical research to compare traits like height, disease susceptibility, and other health risks across ethnic groups. If scientist accept its validity in medical field, why dismiss its application when studying genetics related to IQ?
Regarding the use of European SNPs, European SNPs are commonly utilized because SNPs associated with cognitive ability are often shared across populations. For instance, European SNPs are frequently used in Alzheimer’s research and research involving cognitive decline for every genetic population due different genetic populations sharing the same SNPs.
- (which cognitive ability is directly related to IQ).
The only study suggesting that SNPs related to cognition vary significantly by genetic population dates back to 2015 with more recent research from 2023-2024 indicates that SNPs linked to cognitive ability decline are largely similar across different genetic groups. Even Wikipedia cites these studies.
European samples are not entirely useless for comparisons. Intelligence-related SNPs identified in European datasets have been shown to correlate with cognitive performance in non-European populations.
Even if certain studies have methodological limitations, that does not mean race or ethnicity has no genetic alleles component in IQ differences. The core principle remains: Genetic populations differ in allele frequencies related to IQ, and these differences influence average cognitive ability
There is some issues with this comment. First of all, Alzheimer's is present in all races. Some SNPs are shared across populations. However, most of them are not shared. And European genetic datasets are not used because they are accurate they are used out of convenience. The vast Majority of people who offer their DNA for research are Europeans.
With that said, the study you cited has not been peer reviewed and comes from private organization which is attempting to push an agenda. If a study isn't peer reviewed, we cannot confirm wether it's true or false. In this case the author has been discredited by the scientific community for manipulating existing data for propaganda purposes.
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I didn't say it wasn't present in all races, I said Europeans SNPs are frequently used in Alzheimer’s research because scientist know we share the majority of are SNPs. That's why they use European SNPs.
Incorrect, the majority of SNPs are shared between different genetic populations, with only a small fraction being unique to a specific genetic population.
A study that scientists even approve of examined 2.8 million SNPs from the HapMap dataset and found that allele frequencies can vary significantly due to natural selection and genetic drift, but the majority SNPs themselves are largely shared across populations of African, Asian, and European descent
Even the one that's In the study about allele frequency difference relating to IQ that I linked used the 1000 Genomes Project, which sequenced genomes from multiple populations worldwide. It showed the majority of common SNPs identified are present across all sampled populations, including African, European, East Asian, South Asian, and admixed American groups.
With 13 HapMap studies and the 1000 Genomes showing that humans show over 70% of SNPs, which Is a conservative estimate for the studies.
Like you can just go to the bmc genomics bio medcentral just to find out different genetic populations share over 80% of SNPS.
Fair enough on them not being used because they are accurate, but how does that prove it’s about convenience? If the majority of genetic studies are conducted within European populations, it makes sense that European samples dominate the research. The fact that most SNPs are European doesn’t negate the fact that we share a majority of SNPs across all populations which is common knowledge In science. But why are we even arguing this when the study clearly shows that Europeans make up only about 20% of the sample, not a vast majority?
I get the criticism of the study, but First the study is peer reviewed. It was up even put on well established, peer reviewed academic journal focused on psychometrics and cognitive science, published by Elsevier.
Second, the "muh, muh private organization " part, but you haven’t named one, and the methodology uses public 1000 Genomes data, not from a website on some jewish deception level shit. If there’s an agenda, just show me.
Third, about Piffer being discredited, criticism isn’t the same as debunking his data which comes from 1000 Genomes Project, a globally respected, public dataset used by thousands of researchers. No one’s manipulating the study, The methodology controls for population structure with Fst and even tests against random SNPs to rule out noise. No manipulation there
Also, this will be my last message before ending our little fun debate, because as I stated before.
It's a waste of time and at best mental masturbation. I could be grinding in Warthunder trying to get the M1-Abrams instead of having a debate that will go nowhere. We'll probably agree to disagree If it continues until another study like this is replicated and it finds the exact same results.
So, Sincerely @Logic55, May the Gods watch over you, Goodbye ☨.
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Most race realism is shit imaging living in a first world country and shitting on some poor ass negro or indian
for being low iq jfl those people don't even have money to study let alone be high iqWhites like to cope let them
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