Serious If you saw a stranger foid getting raped, how would you react?

[Deleted member 21219]

Why not apply this logic to food, don't blindly eat food that stimulates a "feel good" sensation and tastes good, only eat food that is extremely healthy and tastes bad

Food that tastes good is often responsible for making humans fat. Id in fact apply the exact same logic to food. Dont eat because youre hungry, eat according to what your daily caloric requirement is along with micro/macros. Sugar tastes good for a reason. This is why americans are becoming fat fucks, consuming foods high in sugar/fat and having no control over their caloric consumption.

Why not apply this logic to entertainment, don't blindly consume entertainment that you actually enjoy, one should only take in educational material

I agree with this also. Spending your time jerking off to porn (basically another dude fkin foids) or watching mindless crap is actually detrimental to your mental health, according to several studies.

Either way I don't get the "blind" part, a lot of thought goes into these choices

The "blind" part refers to making choices that really dont benefit you or your genetics long term.

 

[Deleted member 22999]

The stimuli would probably cause me to panic.

tbh

 

[BlkPillPres]

Food that tastes good is often responsible for making humans fat. Id in fact apply the exact same logic to food. Dont eat because youre hungry

This literally makes no sense, also are you saying all the food you eat doesn't taste good AT ALL?

Taste is part of how your body determines what's good for you, it isn't some unrelated pleasure sensor, there's a reason why rotten food tastes and smells the way it does to us

Humans eating veggies is rather new actually, before we probably only hunted and ate meat, and eating plant food was rare (before the neolithic revolution)

eat according to what your daily caloric requirement is along with micro/macros

1. Makes no sense at all as you're not trying to compete athletically, you don't need to be in peak physical form (especially as an incel JFL)

2. You realize you can only do this because you are privileged enough to be born in a rich enough country right?, that starving kid in Libera doesn't even know wtf a calorie is, they just want something that tastes good and will keep them alive

You ever think the reason why certain things "taste good" to begin with is because its actually good for our bodies

This thread was recently made:

https://incels.is/threads/lets-debate-the-enlightenment-was-a-mistake.201404

They were asking if enlightenment was a mistake because of all the bad things that came out of it, my response to that thread is basically the same response I'd give to what you seem to be arguing

No, its like asking "was the invention of guns a mistake because there are mass shootings today"

Humans misusing something is not the same as that thing being "bad" or a "mistake"

The majority of humans are just pieces of shit that need to be controlled, TBH I'd have no problem with dictatorship if the dictator was logical and wasn't a sadist, society needs an iron fist to rule and create stability, without that there is only chaos

Pursuing pleasure is not a bad thing, overdoing it is, just because some people overdo eating and become obese doesn't make eating for taste bad, nobody is forcing them to do it in excess

I agree with this also. Spending your time jerking off to porn (basically another dude fkin foids) or watching mindless crap is actually detrimental to your mental health, according to several studies

What's the alternative, and what do you mean by "mindless crap"?

Who decides whats the absolute standard of "mental health"?

The "blind" part refers to making choices that really dont benefit you or your genetics long term.

I hope you see the irony of this

"Don't blindly follow your INSTINCTS"

"You need to make choices based on how it affects your GENETICS"

THAT'S A VERY INSTINCTUAL REASON

 

[Deleted member 21219]

This literally makes no sense, also are you saying all the food you eat doesn't taste good AT ALL?

Taste is part of how your body determines what's good for you, it isn't some unrelated pleasure sensor, there's a reason why rotten food tastes and smells the way it does to us

Humans eating veggies is rather new actually, before we probably only hunted and ate meat, and eating plant food was rare (before the neolithic revolution)

Your instincts have been built up over tens of thousands of years. Sugar tastes so good because back when we were hunter gatherers, sugar was a valuable resource. Having a sudden surplus of energy could make the difference between life and death. Now that we're in the modern world where food is in plentiful supply, your instincts have simply not caught up to the current conditions. This is where reinforced learning in your brain can override your NPC program and say something like "I dont really need this many calories now".

We are all primal in that sense. A number of our instincts often mislead us in the modern world. But our learning capabilities can make us compensate for this.

1. Makes no sense at all as you're not trying to compete athletically, you don't need to be in peak physical form (especially as an incel JFL)

2. You realize you can only do this because you are privileged enough to be born in a rich enough country right?, that starving kid in Libera doesn't even know wtf a calorie is, they just want something that tastes good and will keep them alive

You ever think the reason why certain things "taste good" to begin with is because its actually good for our bodies

Has nothing to do with peak physical form. Things like fasting, etc (which completely go against instincts) have shown to increase life span. Food tasting good does not necessarily mean its good for you. Plenty of examples for this. Sugar contains no micro/marco nutrients and yet tastes so good. Has to do with the environment in which we evolved.

Pursuing pleasure is not a bad thing, overdoing it is, just because some people overdo eating and become obese doesn't make eating for taste bad, nobody is forcing them to do it in excess

Where do you draw the line then? What is excessive ? Surely you must be using the part of the brain that learns to make these decisions which is exactly my point. Learning to control our instincts is what separates us from a lot of other creatures on this planet.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Sugar contains no micro/marco nutrients

You seem to be asserting "good for you" has only to do with nutrition, yet ironically one of your arguments before had to do with mental health

Spending your time jerking off to porn (basically another dude fkin foids) or watching mindless crap is actually detrimental to your mental health, according to several studies.

Do you think pleasure and physical satisfaction has nothing to do with mental health?

Maybe food tasting good (and things "feeling good") is part of mental health, maybe that satisfaction is connected to mental stability, good tasting food definitely helps me "cope" with my life in some sense, nothing is more refreshing from a stressful day than a good tasting meal, makes all the rage and depression just flood out of your body, especially when combined with entertainment, all these things are cathartic

Where do you draw the line then? What is excessive ?

Whether it depreciates your health or physical capability to the point of lowering your chances of survival in flight or fight situations and/or can possibly kill you

This is why I don't drink or smoke, and I don't eat fatty foods in excess, but I won't avoid fatty food because eating fats is part of what we've always done, sucking down smoke into your lungs and consuming substances that fuck with your liver isn't, no need to chase external dopamine rushes when I have access to internal ones that can be stimulated with food and sexual acts (things we always did)

Things like fasting, etc (which completely go against instincts) have shown to increase life span

Do you realize that all your arguments about not following your instincts ironically ARE JUSTIFIED WITH INSTINCTUAL REASONING

"You need to make choices that benefit your genetics"

"You have to do things that increase your life span"

Like come on dude, its like you aren't even trying to be self aware

Everything we do comes back to following our instincts, our biological drives, if we weren't doing things based on that, we wouldn't be doing anything at all

What you are arguing is like saying a program should disassociate itself from its code, from the functions that determine its actions, if a program does that, THEN IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING

Everything we do revolves around our programming

Now either way I'm tired of arguing this because it doesn't make any sense, its like arguing whether 1+1=2, literally everything we do is connected to our biological drives in some sense, and all your arguments about ignoring these drives ARE IRONICALLY ROOTED IN REASONING'S RELATED TO THESE DRIVES (which I already pointed out)

If you aren't self aware enough to realize how contradictory these arguments are, I'm wasting my time anyways

Enjoy "increasing your lifespan" and doing things that "benefit your genetics" WHILE AT THE SAME TIME TELLING YOURSELF YOU AREN'T BEING DRIVEN BY YOUR INSTINCTS (smh)

(Its ridiculous, its like you can't even hear yourself)

 

[Deleted member 23981]

You ironically sound fucking stupid, do you think you're going to be arrested by the thought police afterwards, you are under no legal obligation to help someone in danger, the only "illegal" answer is joining in, and again you can't be arrested for merely thinking about it



@Legendarywristcel
I would never join in, but not for moral reasons, but for logical reasons, there's just too much that could go wrong

1. The guy could respond aggressively and fuck you up, now your dna is at the scene of a rape even if you run away and survive the altercation

2. If you both happily team up its harder to keep track of what you did and what to clean up, unless you both plan on exchanging contact information after killing her and disposing of the body, you will likely get caught and then arrested as you can't keep your stories straight, one mistake and you're fucked

3. The guy could have STD's and you end up getting it when you guys "swap holes" JFL


Either way I just don't like the idea of sharing a rape

I chose to keep walking, but in reality I'd probably do a slight variation of two of them, I'd wait till the rape was finished, when the guy leaves, rush her and knock her out, take whatever cash she has on her and split JFL

based af

 

[slimshady]

If the Foid knows me and saw me then I have to do something, Otherwise I will be shamed. But mostly I don't care. I would even get some satisfaction if the rapists were Incel tier, they are just taking what they deserve.

 

[Deleted member 24293]

I don't leave the house.

 

[Deleted member 23981]

If the Foid knows me and saw me then I have to do something, Otherwise I will be shamed. But mostly I don't care. I would even get some satisfaction if the rapists were Incel tier, they are just taking what they deserve.

your not legally bound to help her, imagine if the rapist kills you

 

[grondilu]

You ironically sound fucking stupid, do you think you're going to be arrested by the thought police afterwards, you are under no legal obligation to help someone in danger, the only "illegal" answer is joining in, and again you can't be arrested for merely thinking about it

In my cucked country, it is illegal not to help someone in danger. It's called "non-assistance à personne en danger".

Punishment is supposed to be five years in jail and 75,000€ fine.

Duty to rescue - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

your not legally bound to help her, imagine if the rapist kills you

You must sacrifice for the sake of m'lady.

 

[BlkPillPres]

In my cucked country, it is illegal not to help someone in danger. It's called "non-assistance à personne en danger".

Punishment is supposed to be five years in jail and 75,000€ fine.

Try and leave your country JFL, what kind of cucked law is that

If you ever see some shit going down, look the other way and act as if you didn't see anything, don't even run, if you get caught on camera running you are fucked

 

[grondilu]

Try and leave your country JFL, what kind of cucked law is that

The same kind of cucked law that prohibits paternity tests.

France is cucked beyond imagination.

 

[RandomGuy]

do the boogie woogie!

 

[Deleted member 21219]

If the Foid knows me and saw me then I have to do something, Otherwise I will be shamed. But mostly I don't care. I would even get some satisfaction if the rapists were Incel tier, they are just taking what they deserve.

"Stranger foid".

 

[Deleted member 21219]

You seem to be asserting "good for you" has only to do with nutrition, yet ironically one of your arguments before had to do with mental health

Mental/physical. Why are they different though ? Both relate to your overall well being.

Do you think pleasure and physical satisfaction has nothing to do with mental health?

Maybe food tasting good (and things "feeling good") is part of mental health, maybe that satisfaction is connected to mental stability, good tasting food definitely helps me "cope" with my life in some sense, nothing is more refreshing from a stressful day than a good tasting meal, makes all the rage and depression just flood out of your body, especially when combined with entertainment, all these things are cathartic

I think they do, to some extent. This is why i think going to escorts can actually help a lot of posters here. That being said, you still need to use the learning part of your brain to check to see if youre doing harm/good to yourself by following your impulses.

Iam not arguing to say we're not led by our impulses/urges. All of us are. But the fact that we get to use the higher layers of our brain sets us apart from other creatures.

Whether it depreciates your health or physical capability to the point of lowering your chances of survival in flight or fight situations and/or can possibly kill you.
This is why I don't drink or smoke, and I don't eat fatty foods in excess, but I won't avoid fatty food because eating fats is part of what we've always done, sucking down smoke into your lungs and consuming substances that fuck with your liver isn't, no need to chase external dopamine rushes when I have access to internal ones that can be stimulated with food and sexual acts (things we always did)

Youre proving my point actually. You are using the higher layers of your brain to make a conscious decision that smoking/drinking is bad for you and hence not indulging in those activities that might give you pleasure. A lot of people cant do this. There are no survival benefits to smoking.

 

[Ropemaxx]

She is not entitled to our help

 

[Deleted member 21219]

She is not entitled to our help

Big yikes!

 

[Shin no Shi]

No point if there's no purpose

 

[Deleted member 21219]

No point if there's no purpose

Thats my thinking here too. Its not to actively cause harm, it is a simple decision to be averse to risk when it gives me no benefit.

 

[Deleted member 16390]

Tbh i would not know if the situation is consensual, a scripted act, a movie , a crime or whatever in a public place, so i would get far away from it as possible. If a foid dont want to get assaulted she should should stay home with the protection of male relatives.beside am already designated as a domestic terrorist in texas for being a member here and discussing blackpill concepts.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

imagine the cuck that intervenes get shot or stabbed to whiteknight a random roast who was probably asking for it and if you survive she'll probably say you were the rapist

 

[slimshady]

your not legally bound to help her, imagine if the rapist kills you

Yes. But If I don't "try" to help then people will shame me, including my Parents. Other people will call me pussy for not helping.

 

[BlkPillPres]

The same kind of cucked law that prohibits paternity tests.

France is cucked beyond imagination.

Oh shit, I already knew about that paternity test law but didn't know there was more cucked shit, not even surprised now, that country really hates its men, the laws are ridiculous, you literally get treated like slaves with the sole purpose of serving your country, like everything is some "duty"

 

[BenBerger]

didn't see didn't hear

 

[BlkPillPres]

Yes. But If I don't "try" to help then people will shame me, including my Parents. Other people will call me pussy for not helping.

Like they aren't already looking down on and shaming you for being an incel, JFL at being such an egoist that you'd risk death so that you don't get called "band names"

You'd rather be a dead "real man" than an alive "pussy", doesn't sound logical at all really, especially to receive praise from people who will think you are a loser regardless

You: "At least they won't think I'm a pussy and a loser"

 

[randomguy1235]

if YOU were getting raped and a woman saw it... WOULD SHE HELP YOU?... NO? Then you know the answer to the question in OP.

 

[BodyFat10orRope]

how would you react?

 

[slimshady]

Like they aren't already looking down on and shaming you for being an incel, JFL at being such an egoist that you'd risk death so that you don't get called "band names"

You'd rather be a dead "real man" than an alive "pussy", doesn't sound logical at all really, especially to receive praise from people who will think you are a loser regardless

You: "At least they won't think I'm a pussy and a loser"

it is much worse than u think. But u r right. I shouldn't care anyway

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

IT saw this thread and had a heart attack

 

[grondilu]

The "purpose" of sex is not reproduction, the purpose is pleasure, I think people often forget that our brains and our personage (consciousness) are not really pursuing the same goals, our brains create the framework that our desires revolve around, and uses that design to get us to do WHAT IT WANTS

When a male is aroused, its not really thinking - "man I want to get this female so pregnant, I just want so many kids" JFL

There's the "core motivation" and then there's the "surface motivation"

This should be obvious.

If anything, contraception would not make any sense otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 24876]

IT saw this thread and had a heart attack

 

[BlkPillPres]

This should be obvious.

You would think that, but a lot of guys are still in the "bro science" mindset, with the same "red pill" nonsense a lot of us used to believe before

Like you said contraception is the most obvious proof of what I'm saying

I went the extreme route of suggesting a proposition of where sex is excruciatingly painful, how much do you think "muh biological imperative to reproduce" would function then? JFL

Governments would have to give people tax breaks to incentivize reproduction, nobody would want to fuck

 

[sub8male]

Femorrhoids are not entitled to our help

 

[Deleted member 19971]

I'd say "Oh well." and continue walking.
They're not entitled to my help.

 

[BraincelsRefugee]

She's not entitled to my help, no one is entitled to anything, she has to earn the right to not get raped

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

Nothing

 

[Jerek]

Incels in other threads: "Pretty much all women are whores, even the women who dress conservatively and act cute are whores for Chad, cute and innocent is just an act, and its to attract Chad not you, to help chad live out his "violating innocence" fetish"

Incels in threads like this one: "Well clearly women are only whores if they are dressed a certain way, I can use my mind reading powers to tell if a woman was sucking Chad's cock last night and is a whore who rides the cock carousel, so based on how she's dressed I'd call the police"

Dude stop making fucking excuses so you can "feel alright with" helping a woman, just be honest with yourself, you'd probably help any woman regardless because your criteria is sloppy and is nothing but an excuse

The scantily dressed bitch could be a kindergarten teacher and the woman dressed conservatively could be an instagram model or an actual stripper

You are just giving yourself a "mental out" so no matter what happens you can feel alright with helping them, when you see the scantily dressed woman getting raped you'll probably just tell yourself - "I have a sister, I have to call", or some other excuse

Just stop it, I hate seeing cognitive dissonance, especially with incels, were supposed to be the self aware ones

You're reading too much into this.

 

[FlyFace]

At the end of the day.. this is what society has turned into.. it would never be this way if not for Feminism. Feminism has birthed this hell hole. Whatever society is in control is because Toilets endorse it and actively act on behalf of said type of society. So if she is getting plugged by a rapist its her own damn fault. Maybe she shouldn't have ruined everything for all Men below a looks threshold like the Bonobo brained Chad sleeves we all know they are.

 

[Deleted member 20811]

SMH at all the moralfags in this thread.

You are a cuck if you would ever help a foid in this situation.

Why call the police? Why???????? Just let the foid suffer and get what she deserves.

 

[Deleted member 20811]

I'd probably call the cops, but I wouldn't intervene myself.

WHY?????????? Why not just NOT CALL THE COPS at all and let the whore suffer?

 

[Deleted member 20811]

I'd feel guilty. I don't need that on my conscience. But I'm not risking my personal safety for her.

but its a foid. My conscience doesn't exist for foids.

 

[Deleted member 20811]

I don't want to add to the evil in the world.

You have zero obligation to help foids

 

[BITG]

There is a good chance she would end up liking it tbhtbhngldedsrs https://www.reddit.com/r/Rapekink/

But honestly, they ARE NOT entitled to safety. I wouldn’t help. Fuck that.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

But this tbh...

If I saw a psychopathic Chad abusing a female, I would kill the psychopathic Chad and then take his place.

 

[oldcel75]

Manage your risks. Today there are cameras everywhere. Do you want to get shamed on youtube/facebook/twitter as the one that did not help? I'm 44, I have a decent job, I don't want to lose it. I guess I will not intervene by myself, as it could be staged by a kinky couple, but I will certainly call 911.