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Serious If you have never approached a woman before, what kind of dating life do you actually expect?
What do you expect your dating life to be like if you've approached ~100 women before?
I expect the jump off the bridge to be very painful until my brain stem finally snaps.
I expect the jump off the bridge to be very painful until my brain stem finally snaps.
The girl must approach me otherwise we wouldn’t be compatible for a relationship. I need an alpha woman to dominate me.
too high inhib now, i remember back in college i was walking towards the parking lot and this girl was walking in front of me, she literally turned back to me and said "youre making me uncomfortable" i didnt approach them since fuck that
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stop giving femoids validation and attention randomly on the streets
If a woman doesn't show you interest at first, then approaching is useless.
@FACEandLMS made a very good question. It's a bit frustrating to see 6/10 mentalcels criticizing people who still approach. An ugly guy who spam approaches tons of women and gets rejected 100% of the time, by even landwhales, is MUCH MORE of a truecel than some dumb 6/10 mentalcel who thinks women must approach him (it's not gonna happen for average or just a bit above average men, forget about it).
Women only ever approach insanely above average men, tattoo this shit if you need to. The average normie with GF statistically made the first move.
Women only ever approach insanely above average men, tattoo this shit if you need to. The average normie with GF statistically made the first move.
So we're going to reward being a fucking dumbass now? LMAO, by all means, ruin your reputation. Your call.
Thank you!
LMAO, In what fucking universe did I get "BTFO"?
You don't have a SINGLE argument against me, I was arguing that cold approaching is retarded. I was arguing that approaching is pointless for incels. I said that if you're average and friendless, you won't get ANYTHING.
Whats your argument? "Muh normies..."
WE'RE NOT NORMIES! THEIR RULES DON'T APPLY TO US! IF YOU ARE A NORMIE, YOU'RE NOT AN INCEL. IF YOU ARE AN INCEL, YOU ARE NOT A NORMIE.
If you're too thick to understand that and think going around flailing around womyn as an ugly guy will get you laid then good luck.
If you're so sure about guys like you being single, then why are you advocating people waste their time approaching? Go tell that to the bluepilled idiots and /r/FA and meatheads at /r/TRP, maybe they'll take your "JUST APPROACH!" talk seriously.
If you're below 3/10, I can agree that trying to approach is just dumb. But if you're between 3 and 5 it's theoretically possible to get results from approaching. You can argue it's not worth it, because the results will be extremely rare and inconsistent, but what options do 3-5/10 men have? Cold approach >>> Tinder/warm approach in that range.
If you're between 5/10 and 8/10 you definitely can get results from approaching, that's why I think mentalcels are dumb. If I were a, let's say, 6/10 mentalcel, I would just take whichever drug I needed to become remotely NT and low-inhib for a while and mass approach while at that.
Above 8 you don't need to approach, obviously.
And no, before someone says it, I don't support the PUA scam industry, I was crushed by it for years before the blackpill and their "techniques" are 100% scam. I agree. But approaching in general is not a scam, expecting females to always make the first move is dumb and goes against biology. Your oodds are much higher when you take the initiative.
Obviously, but if you're going to approach strangers as a 4/10 guy then you're just holding up a sign that says "shoot me".
Think about it, the only way this would work is if all the guys she knew were 3/10 or below. Why would she pick your ugly ass when she has MUCH better looking guys on hand?
At least if you know her you know who her friends are and maybe can find out if you mog her "guy friends" or not.
But approaching a literal STRANGER? Unless she's so intoxicated she can barely walk, I don't think so.
Yes, if you're 4/10, definitely aim for drunk/ugly/fat/high femoids.
Nobody said it was easy or that it works all the time, far from that. But it's:
1) theoretically feasible
2) pretty much the only option as a non Chad guy nowadays
I personally know around 4/10 men who got at least kisses from cold approaching. Again, you can argue a lot of stuff, "it's too much effort for poor results"= I agree, "it's dangerous"= I agree if you live in a cucked place like Toronto or something, but again, it can work and there's no other options for subpar but not hideous men.
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Are you medceling to statusmax? Or do you enjoy the profession. It was a path I was considering once
I always use a FAKE NAME when sarging. I approached close to 5000 sets without anything significantly bad ever happening. If you use ur real name then yes chances are your name will be tarnished
One day I was kinda pissed and kept talking at this female who clearly wasn't interested, she looked down at her phone, gave me 1 word. Answers etc... but I continued to talk at her ingnoring her signals on purpose cuz I was mad.
She ends up showing me "911" on her iPhone screen, so I racewalk out of there as fast as I can.
Not even normies approach anymore. They use tinder or get dates while socializing with friends. If you want a confirmation of your subhuman looks go on tinder, but don't approach unless you're really good at socializing (which isn't a learn-able trait).
Nah gave up on that shit tbh, also too low iq to study max and dedicate my life to research.
in what way has approaching women made your life better OP?
If I hadn't approached 100s of women, I'd be a KHHV. But that was before Tinder and smartphones. And before I went NW4, etc. And my standards have always been low (overweight single mums anyone?). But there are 17yos on this forum who have given up before trying.
These are the 17yos who make us look aspie when their pics leak, they are revealed to be 4-6/10 and so normies extrapolate that we are all decent-looking.
Look, I am not saying "run around approaching women", esp if you are hideous. All I am asking is, if you haven't approached a woman before, what do you expect to happen? If you have suffered rejections, then I totally get you giving up.
Women won't approach a 5/10 guy but a 5/10 guy can get a gf.
I have approached and interacted with enough foids to know they find me hideous.
@VLÖ
@13k
My romantic/sexual life story is a lot like yours. I'm also a guy who would be a KHHV had I never approached (I'm a virgin outside of prostitutes though), and my looks were also demolished once and for all by baldness and other shit that came with age. I was low tier normie and now I'm definitely incel tier.
I'm far too shy to approach them. I've got the balls of a bitch.
There you have it boyos!
IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT FOR NOT BEING EXTROVERTED AND NT!
EVERYTHING IS YOUR FAULT!
How would it feel if I called your ugliness "all your fault"?
"b-b-but it was out of my control!" SO ARE OUR SHITTY SOCIAL LIVES!
You seriously think we CHOSE to be shut-ins?????
And now watch as you bring out shit like "just talk to people bro", "just join clubs bro".
Well I'm not average anyway, I was using it as an example. I'm eastern-euro ugly and friendless as well.
What my point was, being friendless is a killer to anyone but Chad. But it's just added insult to injury if you're ugly.
Which is why I'm saying that approaching is stupid without having friends.
I'd rather be ugly with friends than ugly without friends, but I can't change that. I don't have anything to lean on, so any approaching is out of the question. I assume you have friends, so at least if your surgeries turn out well you'll have the full package. Risk vs reward.
All I wanted to prove is not approaching doesn't make you any less of an incel. If you have the ability to approach without consequences, be happy. You have a privilege not many people have. You have a shot at escaping.
But shitting on people who are "beneath" you for not having your privileges is egotistical and shallow.
This is what @13k and I are talking about, @VLÖ . This guy is too shy to approach. So what TF does he expect? Women to approach and rape him?
I am not talking about guys who have had their subhumanity confirmed by femshits.
But WHY is he shy? What made him be shy? That's the key.
Shyness could come from anywhere. If he's "shy" because he got bullied to shit then obviously even if he wasn't shy he'd still be just as miserable and alone.
If he's "shy" due to people treating him like shit then it's just natural defense mechanisms kicking in. Your body KNOWS that approaching will end horribly, so it tries to stop you. This is triggered by bad past experiences.
You can take drugs to kill whatever mood you have anyway, but if it lands you in deep shit then that's your own responsibility.
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Tried nearly 100 times with zero success.
If you're attractive, girls come to you. You ATTRACT them.
if you've never tried asking out a female you can't be a trucel, you might think you are ugly but you have no proof besides self analysis. You only have to look at that ratings thread so see how normie tier looking alot of guys here are.
I've asked out over 70-80 females in my life with a mix of online/real life/social gathering and have 100% rejection so I know I am unattractive to women.
that's why incel life is easier for me to accept, i'm not thinking "what if", guys that have never asked girls out will always be plagued by insecurity about if they are ugly or not because they never got that real life experience of multiple rejections to confirm they are ugly
I've asked out over 70-80 females in my life with a mix of online/real life/social gathering and have 100% rejection so I know I am unattractive to women.
that's why incel life is easier for me to accept, i'm not thinking "what if", guys that have never asked girls out will always be plagued by insecurity about if they are ugly or not because they never got that real life experience of multiple rejections to confirm they are ugly
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you're one of the more sensible people on this site. But I have to ask what you mean by approaching? I don't think cold approaches are effective in most settings.
just approach bro.
I have seen your picture you are indeed below average but you look intimidating and masculine your height and race halo you, you ran BBC thug game, that's why you were successful. I am not denying there are a lot of average or attractive White guys here who could definitely get laid if they tried, but the whole you need to approach to know if it is over is wrong. For most if not all below average non Black ethnics it is definitely over. It is enough to have your pictures rated a few times online and if other people think you are below average then it is definitely hopeless.
The only way these guys could get laid is if they were extremely rich or high status and that would only be because females want to use them for resources, no women could ever be attracted to us and ultimately beta buxxing leads to bad outcomes it is better to remain incel than be a beta cuck, which might not even be possible.
For someone like me there is no need to approach or talk to females, their looks of disgust and feeling of discomfort in my presence or during casual conversation is enough to realize I have no chance. With such a hopeless outcome there is no point in trying.
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This is exactly why I will approach 1000 women.
I don't care about "my name"
I don't care about shit tbh
I have become so low inhibition that it feels like I am not even myself anymore.
I don't care about "my name"
I don't care about shit tbh
I have become so low inhibition that it feels like I am not even myself anymore.
Both, I guess. Though the last few months it has become increasingly hard for me to muster up any motivation to study - I just don't see the point in wasting away my 20s if the end result at best would be me marrying a used up cumdumpster in her 30s with emotional baggage and mileage on her pussy.
But guys over a 4 can get a gf too. You are conflating chad-godmode -- being approached -- with average guys who still can get a gf, albeit hardfought, infrequent, etc.
Gigachad gets the most approaches but even Chadlites and some normies get approached by women. If you're fuckable, women will let you know. Don't need to approach.
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what's even the point of approaching them?
If Invisible (The OP) asked this 10 years ago, I'd say good question. Approaching is useless in today's world when she has Chad or simply a better option than you at her disposal. While I will die untouched, I know that I gave it my best shot by approaching hundreds and hundreds of women. Would not recommend trying this in 2018 with dating apps and #MeToo.
You are deluded. Most women won't approach even if you are chad. The most they will do is giving you indicators that they want to be approached by you e.g giving you eye contact or standing near you to make it easier for you to approach. In rare cases a women might approach you if you are good looking but they will do it very indirectly and they will still expect you to carry the conversation afterwards and make things happen. If you want consistent results with women you either need a good social circle or approach regardless of your looks. So if you aren't completely hideous and haven't tried approaching it's completely your fault tbh.
No they don't.
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jfl if u expect a woman to approach u even as a chad
all those are social anecdotes
as a whole women DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO APPROACH
Maybe not in the 1950s when women were expected to act very lady like.
Not these days. Women are thirsty for dick, the dick of an ATTRACTIVE man.
If you need to approach first, it's over. Women approach the men they fancy.
Why would a women approach a men. The average women that goes out occasionally gets hit on roughly 20 times a week. She has enough options as it is. There is no reason for her to approach. In addition women have the fear to be labeled as sluts by society which lowers their social status. A women gains literally no benefit from approaching.
Someone who gets it.
Approached by 20 subhumans a week. They don't even count that.
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