Serious If you have never approached a woman before, what kind of dating life do you actually expect?

[FACEandLMS]

Not rhetorical. Read just the bold if you are ADHD.

What do you expect your dating life to be like if you haven't approached a woman before? Do you expect women to approach you? Srs question. You know that women only approach guys above their looksmatch or Chads. You also know that ugly guy outliers who have a gf exist. For you to be an outlier as a subchad, you'd have to approach women. And not like 4, but quite a few.

So again, I haven't said anything you don't already know ITT. So what really do you expect your dating life to be like if you haven't approached before.

inb4 sperging and reeing. I am not saying that approaching is efficient or even likely to help you, but I am just wondering what you expect. Let's say that getting a Masters is hard af. I wouldn't expect a 70-IQer to be successful getting a Masters. But if he said: "I am depressed because I can't get a Masters", it would be logical to ask if he had tried in any way whatsoever to get one. And even that example isn't good because a Masters takes knowledge, study, etc, whereas getting a gf for some ugly men is a case of pure luck, number's game, social circle, etc.

So if you have never approached a woman before, do you feel like your dating life reflects the effort you have put into making it out of inceldom?

 

[StormlitAqua]

Approaching has nothing to do with success. If women truly want you, they will approach you or give off IOIs so blatant that even the most dense of autists can't miss.

I expect my dating life to suck because I am sub-6 and autistic and has nothing to do with approaching. I'm not gonna approach women just to get rejected. The best I'll ever get is betabux to a used-up roast when I'm 30 and I refuse to do that.

My inceldom has nothing to do with approaching. I've even put in "effort" before. I've looksmaxed, I've approached in the past, I've gymcelled. Nothing worked.

 

[Short Straw]

My experience with approaching: irl - I’m a creep. POF - no responses. Tinder - 0 matches.

 

[The End]

My experience with approaching: irl - I’m a creep. POF - no responses. Tinder - 0 matches.

This is true for me too.

But!
I still want to approach women though - not because I think they'll say yes, just the opposite in fact. I want them to deal with my existence.

I was going to do this today but I got called away to do some fucking manual labor.

Fuck women! I'm going to savor every rejection I get from them.

 

[_incelinside]

I don't expect anything

 

[UnfortunatelyINCEL98]

i approached women got rejected and "friendzoned"
more like accquainticezoned / but im content that a try from time to time with girls in my leauge but most of the time their boyfriends usually mog me / when the girl was dating someone on the job

 

[incel scum]

Approaching a femoid without receiving IOI's first is retarded.

 

[rotting-alone]

High iq thread.

Many of us are just approachcels.

Then there's me who has had an incel midlife crisis. I didn't do any self improvement because I thought my face and weight and muscles were fine. But recently I swallowed a reality pill and realize they're not.

So now I need to gymcel and cardiocel and do self improvement before I can truly expect any food action.

Approaching a femoid without receiving IOI's first is retarded.

True

 

[Pasteleiro]

Are you including approaching random women on the streets?

 

[5mb]

My experience with approaching: irl - I’m a creep.

everytime, this is why i don't bother anymore

 

[VLÖ]

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

How many people you know ACTIVELY WORK on finding partners? That includes doing shit that you don't like and don't really want to do, i.e exactly what work is.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) put absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

If you have to put in "effort", then I'm sorry you'll never find anyone who actually loves you. Because they don't love you, they love your "work" which mostly means, your money.

 

[_incelinside]

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

How many people you know ACTIVELY WORK on finding partners? That includes doing shit that you don't like and don't really want to do, i.e exactly what work is.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) but absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

If you have to put in "effort", then I'm sorry you'll never find anyone who actually loves you. Because they don't love you, they love your "work" which mostly means, your money.

Exactly. Most sentient post on this website

 

[Adamski]

I've approached over 50 women and been brutally rejected every time. These "approaches" were everything from cold approaches to close propinquity approaches in college dorms. I'm ugly as fuck and women hate me because of it, and always will do.

 

[Newbite]

Normies dont approach

 

[Hikage-best-knaifu]

Normies dont approach

 

[Alone75]

Chad gets approached but also approaches random femoids they find attractive and gets positive results. Don't make out ugly guys just aren't approaching, they get blown out so much they give up!

 

[Fontaine]

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

How many people you know ACTIVELY WORK on finding partners? That includes doing shit that you don't like and don't really want to do, i.e exactly what work is.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) put absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

If you have to put in "effort", then I'm sorry you'll never find anyone who actually loves you. Because they don't love you, they love your "work" which mostly means, your money.

Redpillers on suicide watch

 

[Analhusten]

As a medcel, the time I have to myself isn't much and I have neither the desire nor the patience to jump through hoops just to get some cunt to look in my general direction. I'd much rather do something that actually brings me joy in my free time, which I have too little of anyway.

 

[Deleted member 1983]

incels who have never even tried are fakecels/mentalcels tbh. you cant expect a girl to do all the work.

 

[Testiclechincel]

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

How many people you know ACTIVELY WORK on finding partners? That includes doing shit that you don't like and don't really want to do, i.e exactly what work is.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) put absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

If you have to put in "effort", then I'm sorry you'll never find anyone who actually loves you. Because they don't love you, they love your "work" which mostly means, your money.

Ding ding ding...
/Thread killer

 

[StormlitAqua]

incels who have never even tried are fakecels/mentalcels tbh. you cant expect a girl to do all the work.

See below

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

How many people you know ACTIVELY WORK on finding partners? That includes doing shit that you don't like and don't really want to do, i.e exactly what work is.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) put absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

If you have to put in "effort", then I'm sorry you'll never find anyone who actually loves you. Because they don't love you, they love your "work" which mostly means, your money.

 

[Deleted member 1983]

See below

cope.

 

[Cuck-Damage]

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

How many people you know ACTIVELY WORK on finding partners? That includes doing shit that you don't like and don't really want to do, i.e exactly what work is.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) put absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

If you have to put in "effort", then I'm sorry you'll never find anyone who actually loves you. Because they don't love you, they love your "work" which mostly means, your money.

I knew many tbh. They'd go out when they didn't want to, approach women etc. Work on their social circle and shit like that.

I mean they had money and stuff to do all this, plus their own place, so they were ready. I wouldn't recommend it to NEET basement dwellers.

 

[Deleted member 6101]

I don't expect anything, though.
I know I'm a 4/10 face +balding +introversion ugly fuck and there is absolutely no reason whatsoever a woman will be interested in me in any capacity. Would you smash your head against a steel rail- no, because you know you have no chance of breaking it.

 

[mylifeistrash]

If you were good looking:

- all of your female relatives would have fawned over you AS A BABY AND TO ADULTHOOD
- your teachers would have fawned over you

THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE GIRLS STARTING DOING IT

and finally:

if you looked like this, you'd get hit on endlessly in jr high and above

High iq thread.

Many of us are just approachcels.

Then there's me who has had an incel midlife crisis. I didn't do any self improvement because I thought my face and weight and muscles were fine. But recently I swallowed a reality pill and realize they're not.

So now I need to gymcel and cardiocel and do self improvement before I can truly expect any food action.


True

holy fuck, the cope

 

[WarriorSkull]

Not rhetorical. Read just the bold if you are ADHD.

What do you expect your dating life to be like if you haven't approached a woman before? Do you expect women to approach you? Srs question. You know that women only approach guys above their looksmatch or Chads. You also know that ugly guy outliers who have a gf exist. For you to be an outlier as a subchad, you'd have to approach women. And not like 4, but quite a few.

So again, I haven't said anything you don't already know ITT. So what really do you expect your dating life to be like if you haven't approached before.

inb4 sperging and reeing. I am not saying that approaching is efficient or even likely to help you, but I am just wondering what you expect. Let's say that getting a Masters is hard af. I wouldn't expect a 70-IQer to be successful getting a Masters. But if he said: "I am depressed because I can't get a Masters", it would be logical to ask if he had tried in any way whatsoever to get one. And even that example isn't good because a Masters takes knowledge, study, etc, whereas getting a gf for some ugly men is a case of pure luck, number's game, social circle, etc.

So if you have never approached a woman before, do you feel like your dating life reflects the effort you have put into making it out of inceldom?

I expect when I hang out with girls in casual social settings, they be friendly and pleasant. We haven't gotten to flirting and I'm already being dismissed, little to no eye contact, un-attentive to when I'm speaking, looking around/at their phone, making disgusted faces, being overly critical of how I speak and act, trying to establish distance or barriers between by them and myself, etc.

The concept of approaching a woman and asking her out seems completely retarded to me. Woman are turned off by my mere fucking existence.

 

[KekistaniIncel]

Approaching has nothing to do with success. If women truly want you, they will approach you or give off IOIs so blatant that even the most dense of autists can't miss.

Not always true.

 

[StormlitAqua]

Not always true.

Virtually always true. Women LUST after 7+ men. They do this in order to avoid getting attention from sub-7 men.

 

[JdawgYUNGmoney]

Been there done that multiple times. i will never put myself through the misery of rejection and being led on ever again.

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

I don't expect shit that's why I don't try, LDAR for life

 

[KekistaniIncel]

Virtually always true. Women LUST after 7+ men. They do this in order to avoid getting attention from sub-7 men.

Girls are sneaky man, usually even the chaddest of chads will have to work to get a girl. The only time a person can know if a femoid really likes him is by word of mouth usually. And even then it may not be true.

 

[Cuck-Damage]

holy fuck, the cope

From the sounds of things that person newly has become incel and was happily noncel before possibly even a slayer.

So as per usual it is you who is the stupid coper.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Virtually always true. Women LUST after 7+ men. They do this in order to avoid getting attention from sub-7 men.

holy fuck the cope in this thread

we really have men who have never been approached by girls thinking they could get pussy if they were just NT

LOL

 

[StormlitAqua]

Girls are sneaky man, usually even the chaddest of chads will have to work to get a girl. The only time a person can know if a femoid really likes him is by word of mouth usually. And even then it may not be true.

Holy shit man I sincerely hope you don't believe that... I have seen, live in action, women completely lust after a man and show extreme IOIs. They all do this. This who "sneaky" meme is a cope by ugly people to believe they are wanted by women. There are no sneaky women, you are just not good looking enough.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Holy shit man I sincerely hope you don't believe that... I have seen, live in action, women completely lust after a man and show extreme IOIs. They all do this. This who "sneaky" meme is a cope by ugly people to believe they are wanted by women. There are no sneaky women, you are just not good looking enough.

Feels like TRP in here

"girls are just intimidated by you brah"

LOL

 

[StormlitAqua]

Feels like TRP in here

"girls are just intimidated by you brah"

LOL

Me? I dropped TRP a few years ago. TRP somewhat works, but not for ugly/short/non-NT people.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Me? I dropped TRP a few years ago. TRP somewhat works, but not for ugly/short/non-NT people.

I was agreeing with you.

 

[BlackPillUNC]

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

How many people you know ACTIVELY WORK on finding partners? That includes doing shit that you don't like and don't really want to do, i.e exactly what work is.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) put absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

If you have to put in "effort", then I'm sorry you'll never find anyone who actually loves you. Because they don't love you, they love your "work" which mostly means, your money.

This is true. I am not saying to never approach, but this is correct. If you actually have to put in effort to search for someone, you are already fucked.

 

[StormlitAqua]

I was agreeing with you.

Ah I see I misread that.

 

[iblamemyself]

High IQ. Tbh I don't know what to expect. I get no tinder matches and have no social life at all. It's over for me.

 

[FACEandLMS]

"Dating" shouldn't even take effort. If you already believe that finding someone takes work, then you're far too gone.

And for a lot of socially anxious and aspie men on this forum, being out in public is effort. It isn't so for normal guys. What the average incel considers "effort" is just "socializing" for normie guys.

At my gym, sometimes a guy will strike up a conversation with a girl. Normies don't consider this "effort". But it would give the average poster here a panic attack.

Truth is 99% of people meet accidentally through parties, things they already do all the time, classes etc.

I consider these approaches too. Being in a party sitting in a corner browsing Incels.me on your phone vs talking to women and seeing what happens. The latter is approaching - just "warm", somewhat.

Nearly everyone who I know (which isn't a lot of people) put absolutely ZERO work into their "approaches" and shit. They just met up, got along and started hanging out and talking on FB. It takes no effort whatsoever.

Yes, but better-looking guys won't have to put as much effort in as sub5 incels.

Most of the ugly guy outliers you've seen with a gf probably didn't put ZERO work into their approaches. If you've done 100s of approaches, got rejected and thus feel it best to give up, I can understand that, but not being a "20 yo incel" who has never spoken to a woman but expects to have a dating life. You know there are guys like that on this forum. You've read posts from them.

 

[VLÖ]

And for a lot of socially anxious and aspie men on this forum, being out in public is effort. It isn't so for normal guys. What the average incel considers "effort" is just "socializing" for normie guys.

At my gym, sometimes a guy will strike up a conversation with a girl. Normies don't consider this "effort". But it would give the average poster here a panic attack.

That's because IT ISN'T EFFORT. If we were treated like we could do no wrong it wouldn't be effort for us either. It's only effort for us because we're treated like shit.

I consider these approaches too. Being in a party sitting in a corner browsing Incels.me on your phone vs talking to women and seeing what happens. The latter is approaching - just "warm", somewhat.

Most "approaching" here is "Hey do you know this, this, this and this person? Wow, I know them too!" which is basically just confirming that they're already in the same social circle.

Yes, but better-looking guys won't have to put as much effort in as sub5 incels.

Most of the ugly guy outliers you've seen with a gf probably didn't put ZERO work into their approaches. If you've done 100s of approaches, got rejected and thus feel it best to give up, I can understand that, but not being a "20 yo incel" who has never spoken to a woman but expects to have a dating life. You know there are guys like that on this forum. You've read posts from them.

Spamming approaches as an ugly guy is just as stupid as not doing anything.

Good job, you managed to get your name out as the guy "who creepily approaches everyone" and getting assaulted by random guys on the street for talking to their girls. Astonishing accomplishment.

You can't just expect talking to womyn leads to relationships. In all cases, the talking is just filler. If she likes you, you could just sit there silently and she'll just drag your ass to her place.

If you have to keep initiating the conversation, she's not interested in you. If she just sits there and doesn't say anything to you while you blabber on, she's not interested in you. If you happen to not talk to her longer than usual and she doesn't even notice, she's not interested in you.

The past is dead. Now it's just "Hey you're good looking and my friends know you, let's fuck". Trying to woo someone with talk is going to just end miserably.

 

[KekistaniIncel]

Holy shit man I sincerely hope you don't believe that... I have seen, live in action, women completely lust after a man and show extreme IOIs. They all do this. This who "sneaky" meme is a cope by ugly people to believe they are wanted by women. There are no sneaky women, you are just not good looking enough.

It does happen, I’m not denying that, but mainly to chads and not that often. It doesn’t happen to normies I don’t think.

 

[VLÖ]

you need to be confirmed ugly for that though. not self proclaimed ugly.
A lotta times you see people who claim to be ugly as sin turn out to be average looking dudes.

Faceandlms's advice is legit for insecure 18yo incels with average looks.

That's also the reason you see so many people on IT, "I was BIGGEST TRUECEL up until 22 and now I got a gf, let me tell you how"
you go through his post history, find his picture and surprise suprise that self proclaimed sub3 is actually a 5/10 white kid.

LOL

I'm not 5/10 lmao. And they didn't get their GF from spamming approaches either.

Cold approaching works for NOBODY except 8/10 Chads. Not even normies do it, because they know it's pointless. They stick to whats safe, i.e classes, whatever social circle they have etc.

If you try spamming cold approaches as an average male, you deserve to be incel. You're validating every womyn you see while shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Sadist]

I have tried and failed multiple times. I have given up for now but will start trying again when I try to max myself out a bit. I refuse to die a virgin "BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY" kek

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

I have tried in real life and failed, and i have tried in online dating and failed. Its over for ugly males.

 

[FACEandLMS]

If she likes you, you could just sit there silently and she'll just drag your ass to her place.

I agree with most of your post except this.

Out of all the subchads you've seen with a gf, do you think the girl did all the work? ON A SUBCHAD?

 

[Snowman888]

this shit is start to look like reddit ¬¬

 

[VLÖ]

> they didn't get their GF from spamming approaches either.
and you know this how exactly ? an approach doesnt have to be cold, it rarely is. Most of the time its warm approach like in a party or hobby club.

"spamming" approaching aka trying works if you have average looks. Everything else is just a cope for volcelling average white kids on this forum

with your logic, VAST majority of male population shouldve been incel but they aren't.

incels: it is over if you need to approach, sub8 ? then its over
also incels: fakecel out reee, I saw a normie scum with his gf

And once again, none of you realize the consequences of spamming approaches.

You want to know what happens if you ask out 100 girls randomly without knowing them? Here's what will happen :

Your name will be PLASTERED all over facebook etc, you'll be known as the creep who doesn't know boundaries. You'll start getting deragrtory comments from everyone, you'll be shunned before people even properly know who you are. Every womyn in your area will know how desperate you are, and they will treat you accordingly.

And approaching someone at a party or club (JFL if you think ANY female goes to hobby clubs to find guys) isn't the same, it just isn't. You're not really strangers there, odds are your friends WILL overlap and you'll instantly have something to connect on. It's as much of an "approach" as is just saying "hello". Most of the work has already been done, now all that matters is your appearance.

Am I saying not approach? No, if you're in a party with close friends and everyone in the room knows you somewhat, by all means go all out, you have NOTHING to lose.

But if you don't have close friends, if you don't go to parties and if the girl has NO IDEA who you are or anything about you, then don't even bother. You're just wasting your time. She doesn't date ugly strangers.

I agree with most of your post except this.

Out of all the subchads you've seen with a gf, do you think the girl did all the work? ON A SUBCHAD?

From what I've seen, the guy just screams incoherent shit and insults everyone, including the girl they're talking to.

 

[FACEandLMS]

with your logic, VAST majority of male population shouldve been incel but they aren't.

incels: it is over if you need to approach, sub8 ? then its over
also incels: fakecel out reee, I saw a normie scum with his gf, that guy of course has a gf, he isn't ugly

This is why some incels here feel triggered when they see an ugly guy with a gf. Because it shits on their cope that "it's over for sub8s and putting any effort into dating is 100% guaranteed to fail if you are sub8". It fucks with their worldview.

I feel intrigued and confused when I see an ugly guy with a gf, but not triggered cuz it reminds me that I have a 0.00000001% chance of lucking out too.

But back on topic. Incels on this forum believe the following:

1. If you have to approach, it's over. Approaching is 100% pointless without getting an IOI first.
2. Women only approach chads.
3. Normie men can get a GF.

Well, someone is breaking the ice. If it isn't the woman, it has to be the normie guy.