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Edmund_Kemper
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When you bring up how autistic guys can't find a relationship or lose their virginity to save their life, this is a common argument by faggots like IT and other dumbfuckers. Let's address some shit
1. Anecdotes aren't evidence.
These are just merely unverifiable anecdotes. They can say whatever they want and they can lie and make up fake anecdotes or highly exaggerated ones. Also, they could have memory bias. They probably met MANY MORE autistic guys who are permavirgins. they might not remember them because these guys never told them they never had a GF or sex before. and many virgins don't like to admit they're virgins, and many relationship virgins don't like to admit they're relationship virgins. additionally, it depends on what autists they met. These people be the unusual autists who have more social experiences than most autists and who are more sociable at achieving basic social experiences, and these people who use such anecdotes are thus more likely to meet these kinds of autists. The usual autists are reclusive, struggle to find jobs, didn't go to uni or even community college, and often live with parents and might not go out much or have friends to maintain a social life. As a result, thats why autistic people are rare to encounter in everyday settings. I usually only meet autists when I'm in some autistic program. In everyday settings i very rarely meet them (almost never) unless they're borderline NT or something. These people who use such anecdotes may have only met those autists for the most part. For the sake of this thread, let's call them "popular autists", because these autists, whether they're very high functioning or not, have more social experiences or are able to accomplish more socially than most other autists.
2. Studies show that autistic men are FAR less likely to experience relationships or sex or even a first kiss. Other studies replicate this same result. And ones who experience it often experience it way less often than NTs do.
Keep in mind that these are self report surveys and autists can lie and say they had sex or relationships before when they haven't because they can say what they want. In fact, the percentage of virgins could be higher than what CDC or other national surveys show because it's all self report and many virgins never like to admit they're virgins. Also, some of the guys who say they've had a GF might even count chicks they've had only a first date with because many autistic people, as far as i can tell, often might misperceive acquintances as friends or people they see briefly from time to time as friends and i won't be shocked if they perceive a person they had one or two dates or even a mere kiss with as a girlfriend. That's possibly why the percentage in one of the studies who claim to have had sex is lower than the ones who claim to have had a GF before. Also, many autism studies might have severe selection biases. For example, autism studies on autists tend to lack autistic participants who have learning disabilities even though 50% of autists have learning disability. Autists with an intellectual disability also are severley underrepresented in most autism research too.
Most autistic guys are reclusive, lack sociablitiy, struggle getting jobs, live with parents, don't go to uni or just sit in their room playing videogames or doing other isolated things, most are socially isolated and aren't the talkative types. Most prolly don't even ENCOUNTER autism study recruitments or online surveys. they probably wouldn't bother responding either. So it's hard to contact people with autism for studying them. In fact, unless you join an autistic program for people with autism, it's hard to meet the USUAL type of autists.
The autists who respond to these surveys prolly are popular autists. The type of autists you see on social media who have tons of followers and post about autism advocacy and how they mask a lot and shit are the popular autists who have decent social skills and know how to easily gather many followers online and shit. Hell, i am almost certain that most autistic guys don't even know what wrongplanet.net or r/autism is and probably never used those forums, so even those forums are unrelaible for knowing what most autistic people are like or how to know how many autists enter relationships or some shit.
For example, almost 2 months ago, i met some couple at a house party for metalheads where we saw metal bands play, and they're both non-binary and autistic and have adhd too. they smoke, take psychedleic drugs and one of them told me he has been on drugs since the age of 10. Some studies might show autistic people might take drugs to self-medicate, but most autistic people probably don't at all. They might not even know what fucking shrooms or molly or something are. Shit, they might not know what cocaine is for all i know. i bet most autistic guys barely smoke weed either. they have no social life and could never contact people to get these drugs from. but this dude, he instead has a social life and is in a poly relationship and has multiple additional partners, and crossdresses and engages in BDSM and shit. Hardly any autistic guys know any of this shit if i had to guess.
and i read up to 70% of autistic people mask. Maybe 70% of autistic WOMEN mask but autistic men? trust me, of all the autistic GUYS you'll meet, most can't mask to save their life. their behavior REEKS of autism as they are in public. most display really awkward behavior in public unless they're really high-functioning or have passable social skills. most can't act normatively.
these studies have probably sampling biases, and i read people who respond to sexual surveys are more sexually experienced than peple in general, i bet autists who respond to these surveys are more experienced than most autists, inflating the results, i bet the percentages who exerpeiced relationships and sex is PROBABLY LOWER than what the already low percentages in studies suggest.
AND HERE IS MY ANECDOTE
As a guy with super good memory skills and who met TONS of autists in programs, classes, and other places specificalyy for autistic people where you meet USUAL autists, i promise you that only 5% of them at best had a GF. and the ones who did were often very good with social skills or borderline NT or at least had passable social skills. hell, one was 6'6 and white and the other met a hot NT chick in HS and is still together 4 years later but he met her in HIGH SCHOOL the easiest time to ascend and he was 6'1, white and decent looking and pretty good socially. I bet you the vast majority are still loveless virgins to this day, and if they aren't, they probably aren't that experienced at all. these guys might not admit to being virgins, but ask what foreplay is or something and they prolly won't know, and that will show you they're lying. i asked a few about their experiences and they had none. Hell, a guy i know with autism told me implicitly he never dated in HS or college, but after college tried speed dating but got only a couple dates of 200 women he speed dated but it didn't lead to second dates and he tried dating but it never led much to additional dates. he once lost his V card at around age 25 to a chick he played volleyball with, but he hasn't really had much experience other than that brief fuck buddy of his. He doesn't date anymore and never had a GF and is 35.
@bigantennaemay1 thoughts?
1. Anecdotes aren't evidence.
These are just merely unverifiable anecdotes. They can say whatever they want and they can lie and make up fake anecdotes or highly exaggerated ones. Also, they could have memory bias. They probably met MANY MORE autistic guys who are permavirgins. they might not remember them because these guys never told them they never had a GF or sex before. and many virgins don't like to admit they're virgins, and many relationship virgins don't like to admit they're relationship virgins. additionally, it depends on what autists they met. These people be the unusual autists who have more social experiences than most autists and who are more sociable at achieving basic social experiences, and these people who use such anecdotes are thus more likely to meet these kinds of autists. The usual autists are reclusive, struggle to find jobs, didn't go to uni or even community college, and often live with parents and might not go out much or have friends to maintain a social life. As a result, thats why autistic people are rare to encounter in everyday settings. I usually only meet autists when I'm in some autistic program. In everyday settings i very rarely meet them (almost never) unless they're borderline NT or something. These people who use such anecdotes may have only met those autists for the most part. For the sake of this thread, let's call them "popular autists", because these autists, whether they're very high functioning or not, have more social experiences or are able to accomplish more socially than most other autists.
2. Studies show that autistic men are FAR less likely to experience relationships or sex or even a first kiss. Other studies replicate this same result. And ones who experience it often experience it way less often than NTs do.
Keep in mind that these are self report surveys and autists can lie and say they had sex or relationships before when they haven't because they can say what they want. In fact, the percentage of virgins could be higher than what CDC or other national surveys show because it's all self report and many virgins never like to admit they're virgins. Also, some of the guys who say they've had a GF might even count chicks they've had only a first date with because many autistic people, as far as i can tell, often might misperceive acquintances as friends or people they see briefly from time to time as friends and i won't be shocked if they perceive a person they had one or two dates or even a mere kiss with as a girlfriend. That's possibly why the percentage in one of the studies who claim to have had sex is lower than the ones who claim to have had a GF before. Also, many autism studies might have severe selection biases. For example, autism studies on autists tend to lack autistic participants who have learning disabilities even though 50% of autists have learning disability. Autists with an intellectual disability also are severley underrepresented in most autism research too.
Most autistic guys are reclusive, lack sociablitiy, struggle getting jobs, live with parents, don't go to uni or just sit in their room playing videogames or doing other isolated things, most are socially isolated and aren't the talkative types. Most prolly don't even ENCOUNTER autism study recruitments or online surveys. they probably wouldn't bother responding either. So it's hard to contact people with autism for studying them. In fact, unless you join an autistic program for people with autism, it's hard to meet the USUAL type of autists.
The autists who respond to these surveys prolly are popular autists. The type of autists you see on social media who have tons of followers and post about autism advocacy and how they mask a lot and shit are the popular autists who have decent social skills and know how to easily gather many followers online and shit. Hell, i am almost certain that most autistic guys don't even know what wrongplanet.net or r/autism is and probably never used those forums, so even those forums are unrelaible for knowing what most autistic people are like or how to know how many autists enter relationships or some shit.
For example, almost 2 months ago, i met some couple at a house party for metalheads where we saw metal bands play, and they're both non-binary and autistic and have adhd too. they smoke, take psychedleic drugs and one of them told me he has been on drugs since the age of 10. Some studies might show autistic people might take drugs to self-medicate, but most autistic people probably don't at all. They might not even know what fucking shrooms or molly or something are. Shit, they might not know what cocaine is for all i know. i bet most autistic guys barely smoke weed either. they have no social life and could never contact people to get these drugs from. but this dude, he instead has a social life and is in a poly relationship and has multiple additional partners, and crossdresses and engages in BDSM and shit. Hardly any autistic guys know any of this shit if i had to guess.
and i read up to 70% of autistic people mask. Maybe 70% of autistic WOMEN mask but autistic men? trust me, of all the autistic GUYS you'll meet, most can't mask to save their life. their behavior REEKS of autism as they are in public. most display really awkward behavior in public unless they're really high-functioning or have passable social skills. most can't act normatively.
these studies have probably sampling biases, and i read people who respond to sexual surveys are more sexually experienced than peple in general, i bet autists who respond to these surveys are more experienced than most autists, inflating the results, i bet the percentages who exerpeiced relationships and sex is PROBABLY LOWER than what the already low percentages in studies suggest.
AND HERE IS MY ANECDOTE
As a guy with super good memory skills and who met TONS of autists in programs, classes, and other places specificalyy for autistic people where you meet USUAL autists, i promise you that only 5% of them at best had a GF. and the ones who did were often very good with social skills or borderline NT or at least had passable social skills. hell, one was 6'6 and white and the other met a hot NT chick in HS and is still together 4 years later but he met her in HIGH SCHOOL the easiest time to ascend and he was 6'1, white and decent looking and pretty good socially. I bet you the vast majority are still loveless virgins to this day, and if they aren't, they probably aren't that experienced at all. these guys might not admit to being virgins, but ask what foreplay is or something and they prolly won't know, and that will show you they're lying. i asked a few about their experiences and they had none. Hell, a guy i know with autism told me implicitly he never dated in HS or college, but after college tried speed dating but got only a couple dates of 200 women he speed dated but it didn't lead to second dates and he tried dating but it never led much to additional dates. he once lost his V card at around age 25 to a chick he played volleyball with, but he hasn't really had much experience other than that brief fuck buddy of his. He doesn't date anymore and never had a GF and is 35.
@bigantennaemay1 thoughts?