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Serious I have legit never seen anyone ever receive an IOI

Explain to me how it isn't. Females lack a true sex drive, I suppose an actual IOI would be one of those social experiments where the chad drives up in a Bugatti, lures the female in then it turns out his car was a corolla.

Regardless of the looks of the chad, the female always leaves or bitches in anger. Women are not sexually attracted to most men, they only have a slight semblance of it because that's how the female has adapted in nature, to carry the child and reproduce. That's why in other populations of animals, the only male that gets it is the alpha, because he's in the 99th percentile of attractiveness, leads the pack, has the most biological capital, and therefore is most fit to reproduce. In humans it is much the same except religion and developed society repressed those feelings through religion, government, and moral codes. Thanks to our new progressive society, all of those forces have been destroyed, and women can now freely fuck the alpha male once again.

And I'll say it once again, IOI=cope. Unless you are being actively courted by a female, or know you're chad or have a lot of financial capital, then you're just making it up in your head. When she looks at you, maybe she's looking at a picture behind you, or watching where to walk. I mean, does anyone here actually think that a woman is looking for sex if she's asking you where the bathrooms are in a restaurant? No, and if you do, then you're unironically on the spectrum.
You make it seem like if a woman is interested, the only thing she will do is approach and proposition him, when I assure you, that's the exception and not the rule. I have seen this with drunk women though, they are more aggressive in going after good looking guys.

Most women have pathetically low self esteem. Unbelievably low. Even beautiful women. In fact, I think the more beautiful they are, the more insecure they are, in some strange twist of irony. If you think Men don't handle rejection well, then you haven't seen a woman be rejected by a man, it absolutely devastates them, whereas men can get over a lot of rejection fairly quickly, most women would hate the idea of being rejected even a single time. So they don't approach.


They also have narcissistic egos, and have the idea of a man approaching them means that they're hot shit, and the hunt is more thrilling than the prize for many of them. They'd like to chase endless validation by having men approach them, by giving off subtle IOIs and have men make the first move.

The 0.1% Alpha Chads who induce tingles and giggling just because they are so incredibly good looking don't get approached as much as you seem to think, but they will definitely receive a lot of body language related IOIs.

Plus, a woman will give IOIs even if there's no chance of her ever getting the guy, or seeing him for more than a moment out in a public.
Women with their boyfriends and husbands give body language IOIs to Chads all the time, basically soft-cucking them with eye contact, and smiles.

You seem like you're really trolling but I wrote out a serious response anyway for you.

This girl is out with her Boyfriend, do you think she's going to go up to him?? No.

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Fuckin' aye man, I haven't either. Independent confirmations of this make me hopeful that I'm not that far gone. I'm outside way, way too often, but I also don't frequent bars, meetups, or whateverthefuck context in which you might expect the foidaloids to be a bit more forward. But as far as walking down the street, I pass my eyes over every hole I cross and take stock of their interactions with others out of the corner of my eye. The only things I ever see them looking at are their windowpane reflections, phones, or whichever friend/orbiter/boyfriend they might be stringing along.



Never had it happen, never seen it happen.

wow, this is a huge revelation
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maybe personality does matter after all







just joking no ban please
 
JFL @ you copers, where the fuck "y'all" live. Girls definitely give IOIs, I've seen it: giggling, playing with hair, but the most important IOI that many guys miss is if she "pretties" herself up for you. If a girl likes you she will want to look good for you...obviously not for incels though but when she knows she will see Chad later on

IOIs are definitely real, some of you have lethal autism
 
wow, this is a huge revelation
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maybe personality does matter after all







just joking no ban please
mods would be brainlets if they couldnt tell kek
 
JFL @ you copers, where the fuck "y'all" live. Girls definitely give IOIs, I've seen it: giggling, playing with hair, but the most important IOI that many guys miss is if she "pretties" herself up for you. If a girl likes you she will want to look good for you...obviously not for incels though but when she knows she will see Chad later on

i live in nyc, it has literally never happened here. even when i see good looking guys interacting with them.
 
Most women have pathetically low self esteem. Unbelievably low. Even beautiful women. In fact, I think the more beautiful they are, the more insecure they are, in some strange twist of irony. If you think Men don't handle rejection well, then you haven't seen a woman be rejected by a man, it absolutely devastates them, whereas men can get over a lot of rejection fairly quickly, most women would hate the idea of being rejected even a single time. So they don't approach.

Just fucking lol, you actually believe this? In a world where women can recieve nonstop validation through social media, you actually believe that they have low self esteem?

You are bluepilled as shit.
 
how are you so high inhib
 
The only IOI is PinV. Everything else is cope.
 
Just fucking lol, you actually believe this? In a world where women can recieve nonstop validation through social media, you actually believe that they have low self esteem?

You are bluepilled as shit.

Calling everything you disagree with bluepilled = Cope

Women hate themselves. Why do you think the Fake Up and beauty industry is a BILLION dollar market??? And why are white women the number one users of anti depressants?

But by all means, continue sperging.
 
were you ever normie

yes, when i was x<13
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Calling everything you disagree with bluepilled = Cope

Women hate themselves. Why do you think the Fake Up and beauty industry is a BILLION dollar market??? And why are white women the number one users of anti depressants?

But by all means, continue sperging.

i agree with you honestly, all these females are literally fucked in the head.

lol back when i had a facebook and i was in these public facebook groups, literally only females were ever talking about depression, anxiety, etc.

it's hilarious, they'd rope in 0.3 seconds if they were in our shoes.
 
Ive seen women STARE at chads when the chad doesnt notice them, and when the chad faces them the women will normally look away.


The reason why women wont even look in the direction of undesirables is because men will take ANY interaction with a women they find attractive as an ioi. A simple look in a mans direction will make some men think a woman is into them. Attractive women get pestered all day by sub-7's trying to day game them, over time they get sick of it and start walking with their heads down and ignore everyone.

Its in a mans nature to overestimate womens interest.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111213132001.htm

The research involved 96 male 103 female undergraduates, who were put through a "speed-meeting" exercise -- talking for three minutes to each of five potential opposite-sex mates. Before the conversations, the participants rated themselves on their own attractiveness and were assessed for the level of their desire for a short-term sexual encounter. After each "meeting," they rated the partner on a number of measures, including physical attractiveness and sexual interest in the participant. The model had the advantage of testing the participants in multiple interactions.

The results: Men looking for a quick hookup were more likely to overestimate the women's desire for them. Men who thought they were hot also thought the women were hot for them -- but men who were actually attractive, by the women's ratings, did not make this mistake. The more attractive the woman was to the man, the more likely he was to overestimate her interest. And women tended to underestimate men's desire.
 
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The amount of cope itt is honestly insane. It’s like you guys will do anything to tell yourself it’s any less over for yourselves
 
Ive seen women STARE at chads when the chad doesnt notice them, and when the chad faces them the women will normally look away.


The reason why women wont even look in the direction of undesirables is because men will take ANY interaction with a women they find attractive as an ioi. A simple look in a mans direction will make some men think a woman is into them. Attractive women get pestered all day by sub-7's trying to day game them. Over time they get sick of it and start walking with their heads down and ignore everyone.

Its in a mans nature to overestimate women interest.

yeah you linked this before somewhere lmao it's over
there is no recovering from this.

:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
Calling everything you disagree with bluepilled = Cope

Women hate themselves. Why do you think the Fake Up and beauty industry is a BILLION dollar market??? And why are white women the number one users of anti depressants?

But by all means, continue sperging.

Makeup is the easiest looksmax ever. Why wouldn't they use it regardless of whether they have low self esteem or not? Women claiming to have depression is just attention whoring. They can easily claim to have depression because they live life on easy mode and get pissy when something doesn't go their way and boom they can get perscribed pils just like that.

If women had such low self esteem they wouldn't all feel entitled to Chad.
 
Calling everything you disagree with bluepilled = Cope

Women hate themselves. Why do you think the Fake Up and beauty industry is a BILLION dollar market??? And why are white women the number one users of anti depressants?

But by all means, continue sperging.
it's hilarious. White women are literally the most privileged demographic on the planet and still can't be happy. To say they're overgrown children is an understatement
 
wow, this is a huge revelation
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just joking no ban please

If personality means living life as a somnambulating dumbfuck, I'd actually agree. As I see it, holes only possess anything resembling immediate sexual attraction for a very small class of men. This manifests both in their mating behavior an sich, e.g. the famous OkCupid rating data, and their own account of it (a lot of holes say they rate using a hot or not binary as opposed the male spectral approach; sadly, most men are probably the latter). The only way the lion's share of men circumvent these female caprices is to find and assert a decently high position among other males. The easiest and most universal way to do this is just to be an inoffensive masscult-programmed automaton, sharing in the unrestricted flow of iterative memetic imitation. NT -> friends -> a few begrudging and desperate holes over several years.
 
You make it seem like if a woman is interested, the only thing she will do is approach and proposition him, when I assure you, that's the exception and not the rule. I have seen this with drunk women though, they are more aggressive in going after good looking guys.

Most women have pathetically low self esteem. Unbelievably low. Even beautiful women. In fact, I think the more beautiful they are, the more insecure they are, in some strange twist of irony. If you think Men don't handle rejection well, then you haven't seen a woman be rejected by a man, it absolutely devastates them, whereas men can get over a lot of rejection fairly quickly, most women would hate the idea of being rejected even a single time. So they don't approach.


They also have narcissistic egos, and have the idea of a man approaching them means that they're hot shit, and the hunt is more thrilling than the prize for many of them. They'd like to chase endless validation by having men approach them, by giving off subtle IOIs and have men make the first move.

The 0.1% Alpha Chads who induce tingles and giggling just because they are so incredibly good looking don't get approached as much as you seem to think, but they will definitely receive a lot of body language related IOIs.

Plus, a woman will give IOIs even if there's no chance of her ever getting the guy, or seeing him for more than a moment out in a public.
Women with their boyfriends and husbands give body language IOIs to Chads all the time, basically soft-cucking them with eye contact, and smiles.

You seem like you're really trolling but I wrote out a serious response anyway for you.

This girl is out with her Boyfriend, do you think she's going to go up to him?? No.

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I am for real mate, I'm just a much more revolutionary incel/androcentrist than most here. Anyhow, my rebuttal is as follows:

First of all, women will approach attractive men. I explained how this sample size is very small since they are alpha chads, so therefore it may seem that women are reluctant. They really aren't. Let me put it in a different perspective; women today are no longer seeking relationships per se, but are seeking sex. Unless that chad is actively having sex with another female while she is propositioning him, that woman will likely get accepted and be put on chad's list of roasties that he will fuck at some point in time.

Women are more empowered and radical than ever. This is why I propose androcentrism as a means to not just stop them, but to also allow us incels, mgtows, men below 80th percentile, etc. to respond and revolt against the gynocentric order. In this case, women are stealing our right to sex away, so we should respond accordingly to ensure that they still will romantically gratify us. You're right in saying that women are narcissistic, but women truly get off on denying inferior men. This is why you'll see women actively reject most men en masse; it boosts their ego knowing that those men will never touch them. Women do not see 99% of men as sexual partners, but that 99% are seen as disposable, such as for financial capital, dying in wars to promote gynocentric policies, fighting androcentrists in rallies and on the internet (inceltears). To put it plain, women are parasites.

You're also right in that they give IOI to chad, but the point im making on this post, which im making on this site rather than /soc/ since we're talking to incels and regular men, is that IOI is a myth and a cope for US, not them. Since we're not chad, we're not gonna get these invitations.
 
um...7-8 years of nonstop computer use with pretty much no social interaction with others.

lol, my life but more like 15 years.

Idk though, I exhibited the same sort of problems before I even had access to a computer. Surely it's amplified it though.

If I could be like I am on the internet, I'd have more luck. But not that much more luck because still ugly 3/10.
 
lol, my life but more like 15 years.

Idk though, I exhibited the same sort of problems before I even had access to a computer. Surely it's amplified it though.

If I could be like I am on the internet, I'd have more luck. But not that much more luck because still ugly 3/10.

i honestly don't belong here. i have never spoken to a girl irl lol. (nor has one spoken to me, ever, so i guess it's already over)

we're computercels.
 
I am for real mate, I'm just a much more revolutionary incel/androcentrist than most here. Anyhow, my rebuttal is as follows:

First of all, women will approach attractive men. I explained how this sample size is very small since they are alpha chads, so therefore it may seem that women are reluctant. They really aren't. Let me put it in a different perspective; women today are no longer seeking relationships per se, but are seeking sex. Unless that chad is actively having sex with another female while she is propositioning him, that woman will likely get accepted and be put on chad's list of roasties that he will fuck at some point in time.

Women are more empowered and radical than ever. This is why I propose androcentrism as a means to not just stop them, but to also allow us incels, mgtows, men below 80th percentile, etc. to respond and revolt against the gynocentric order. In this case, women are stealing our right to sex away, so we should respond accordingly to ensure that they still will romantically gratify us. You're right in saying that women are narcissistic, but women truly get off on denying inferior men. This is why you'll see women actively reject most men en masse; it boosts their ego knowing that those men will never touch them. Women do not see 99% of men as sexual partners, but that 99% are seen as disposable, such as for financial capital, dying in wars to promote gynocentric policies, fighting androcentrists in rallies and on the internet (inceltears). To put it plain, women are parasites.

You're also right in that they give IOI to chad, but the point im making on this post, which im making on this site rather than /soc/ since we're talking to incels and regular men, is that IOI is a myth and a cope for US, not them. Since we're not chad, we're not gonna get these invitations.

i've seen literally all types of subhumans/below average males/average males/above average males in relationships

im just talking about this "IOI" thing.
I am legit not surprised people here saying "IOIs are meme, they dont happen"

rofl, it is either due to autism (autists cant pick up non verbal cues)
or they dont leave their house

I have witnessed COUNTLESS obvious IOIs throughout my life. It happens to attractive men.

im not autistic or an aspie and go to college almost every day. i never seen it happen, i'm just telling my side of the story.
 
i've seen literally all types of subhumans/below average males/average males/above average males in relationships

im just talking about this "IOI" thing.


im not autistic or an aspie and go to college almost every day. i never seen it happen, i'm just telling my side of the story.
All of those subhumans are in relationships purely as financial capital for females. I outlined this in the second paragraph of my post you quoted. Why do you think there are so many stories of women in marriages/relationships refusing sex because they're "not in the mood" or something of the like? It's because women lack a true sex drive, and when they are fucking anything below a chad, they are doing it for the sole purpose of ensuring that they have capital, or they can fulfill their biological duty to reproduce.

It's why the concept of love is bullshit. Women do not love you unless you have lots of money, and even then it's fake. They only truly love Chad, or better yet, Chad's big cock, chiseled jawline, muscles, or eyes. They don't "love" his personality. IOI is simply a woman trying to pleasure herself via an act of hedonism.
 
All of those subhumans are in relationships purely as financial capital for females. I outlined this in the second paragraph of my post you quoted. Why do you think there are so many stories of women in marriages/relationships refusing sex because they're "not in the mood" or something of the like? It's because women lack a true sex drive, and when they are fucking anything below a chad, they are doing it for the sole purpose of ensuring that they have capital, or they can fulfill their biological duty to reproduce.

It's why the concept of love is bullshit. Women do not love you unless you have lots of money, and even then it's fake. They only truly love Chad, or better yet, Chad's big cock, chiseled jawline, muscles, or eyes. They don't "love" his personality. IOI is simply a woman trying to pleasure herself via an act of hedonism.

lol relationships in middle school, high school and college are due to financial capital?
 
lol relationships in middle school, high school and college are due to financial capital?
Social capital. For example, a woman might try to get with a nerdy guy because he would help her with homework. In most instances these nerds like us become beta orbiters, but it isn't unusual to see an average female try to lock up the nerd so that she can get into a good college or receive scholarships. The latter, can be indirectly labeled as abuse for financial capital. There are many more special cases if you would like me to elaborate on them.

As a person who is in college, I cannot tell you how many times I've had couples make out in front of me and others. It's just a means of satisfying their narcissistic self-esteem. The women especially want other men to feel jealous, and possibly commit suicide. Women inherently hate men, as you can see through divorce courts, child support, and radical feminism. It's just a subconscious desire on their part; you see it expressed better in populations of mantids, spiders, and especially hyenas. It's why I stay away from women entirely, they are 100% out to get you.
 
IOIs do exist, but I do not know if this is true in today's society. I haven't been a part of the dating game for like 4 years now, but I do not think that is a long enough time period to make the old shit I learned irrelevant.
 
As a person who is in college, I cannot tell you how many times I've had couples make out in front of me and others. It's just a means of satisfying their narcissistic self-esteem. The women especially want other men to feel jealous, and possibly commit suicide. Women inherently hate men, as you can see through divorce courts, child support, and radical feminism. It's just a subconscious desire on their part; you see it expressed better in populations of mantids, spiders, and especially hyenas. It's why I stay away from women entirely, they are 100% out to get you.

you know im paranoid as fuck but you're on some next shit buddy
 
you know im paranoid as fuck but you're on some next shit buddy
Men have a right to be paranoid. Look at what divorce has done to many men; leads them into drug abuse and suicide.
 
I think the reason you didnt see them is because you dont have any social circle. Didnt you say you never talked with a women in your life ?

If you arent in any social circle ofc catching subtle IOIs are difficult from 30 meters.

you're replying to the wrong person lol.

but yea you're right i think
 
I think the reason you didnt see them is because you dont have any social circle. Didnt you say you never talked with a women in your life ?

If you arent in any social circle ofc catching subtle IOIs are difficult from 30 meters.
I didn't see them because there was none to begin with!!!! Haha, I said a while back that I haven't had an interaction with a female in 7 months, well I haven't had a face-to-face, non-business interaction with a female in a year. However, this does not hinder my perception with IOI because female nature is inherently scientific, which means you can reasonably learn about it through primary sources!
 
It was a reply to whogivesafuck but then this is also true for you.

If you are not in any social circle where you can CLOSELY observe how females behave/act near hot guys, you cant say IOIs dont happen. They happen all the fucking time. They are just subtle. You need to be in circles where there are hot men and females.
I am in that social circle, it's called uni.
 
I am in that social circle, it's called uni.

if you ever had a face-to-face, non-business interaction with a female i consider you a fakecel tbh

real truecels would never under any circumstances get such a thing, also "lord of the autism," you are just another good looking larp'er here
 
if you ever had a face-to-face, non-business interaction with a female i consider you a fakecel tbh

real truecels would never under any circumstances get such a thing, also "lord of the autism," you are just another good looking larp'er here
to be fair, that last face to face non business interaction was in high school, and it was negative. If you count school as work then i've never had an interaction of the sort.
 
It was a reply to whogivesafuck but then this is also true for you.

If you are not in any social circle where you can CLOSELY observe how females behave/act near hot guys, you cant say IOIs dont happen. They happen all the fucking time. They are just subtle. You need to be in circles where there are hot men and females.
They are NOT subtle. In college, my campus and class was 85% girls, and whenever we went to a mixed campus, the girls would all say "Oh my gosh, so many guys!" As if they were excited to see all the Chad-lites.
 
They are NOT subtle. In college, my campus and class was 85% girls, and whenever we went to a mixed campus, the girls would all say "Oh my gosh, so many guys!" As if they were excited to see all the Chad-lites.

everyone seems to have different experiences lol.
 
It's because you're autistic like me. I don't notice these things either.
 
It's because you're autistic like me. I don't notice these things either.

i'm not autistic or aspie bro, i lied about that. just a shy, beta faggot.
 
Are you certain? Btw get an avatar.

i figured no one would take a guy like that seriously so i just made up how i was aspie.

i never even seen a doctor before lmao, i have no health problems ever.
 
dude your posts crack me up

also
>TKHHV
lmao, how the fuck can you be touchless ? did you put it there as a meme ?
like how u never even handshaked with a female ?

inb4 fakecel out

"T" means talkless lol.

also nice to see that people at least find me amusing here lol
 
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i honestly don't belong here. i have never spoken to a girl irl lol. (nor has one spoken to me, ever, so i guess it's already over)

we're computercels.


I haven't spoken to a non-family member, non-coworker female since highschool besides online interactions. I have a lot of female internet friends, but they don't know much about my personal life or what I'm dealing with. I mean it's almost impossible to go through life without speaking at all to a woman, but for me it's only basic things that I have to do.

I'm excluding simple interactions like cashiers or the lady at the pharmacy filling my prescriptions, things like that. There might be a few exceptions, but nothing worth remembering.

I still consider myself incel, so I am here. A lot of the comments go over board and give them fuel to hate us. I'm not sure it's the right board for me either, but I do get a good laugh every now and then. I am trying to improve situation, I'm a fatcel, and even though it's difficult it's one thing I know how to improve.

If you have no major disabilities or anything preventing you I'd try and go out somewhere. I'm not even trying to talk to women because I wouldn't want to date a female me right now. But if there's nothing obvious that you need to fix about your life or your looks physically, if you're not NEET, etc. I would try going out sometime just to get used to it. If you don't like clubs (can't imagine incels liking them) maybe go to a comic convention or something? Some sort of place where a lot of incels and women gather and just strike up a conversation about a girl's costume or something. But be careful complimenting, they have strict harassment policies at these places, if there's even a chance it could be misinterpreted could get kicked, only a Chad can really get away with it even if they're dressed in superhero lingerie. But I mean just find a character you recognize from a show or movie you're a fan of. I'm more comfortable at these places, because most the men at these nerd gatherings look incel, lol. When there's a room full of incel looking men we don't stand out as much and might help you just getting used to talking to women. Or even just wear a costume yourself, they will come to you and start talking. This might also make you look like a loser depending how good the costume is, but this is just a way of practice.

Not sure if you're into this sort of thing, but just an example.

I'm not alcoholic and I don't even drink but I've even considered LARPING as one just to go to an alcholics anonymous group, lol. The older you get it seems harder to find friends let alone a girlfriend. But if I wasn't fat and had some money I'd be trying to meet women still.

After I looksmaxx, I plan on just toughing it out, going out and finding some women to talk to, no matter how uncomfortable it is at first. It does help after a while. My social anxiety used to be far worse, that I was uncomfortable even talking to other men.
 
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IOIs don't exist. Women will let you know if they find you attractive.

If a woman hasn't initiated conversation and pivoted to hanging out...well boyo.....
women truly get off on denying inferior men. This is why you'll see women actively reject most men en masse; it boosts their ego knowing that those men will never touch them. Women do not see 99% of men as sexual partners, but that 99% are seen as disposable, such as for financial capital, dying in wars to promote gynocentric policies, fighting androcentrists in rallies and on the internet (inceltears). To put it plain, women are parasites.

Truer words have never been spoken.
 
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