I genuinely can’t imagine myself in a real relationship unless it happened through force, coercion, or some type of manipulation

[Clavicus Vile]

The only way I could imagine it going down is if I targeted a foid who was quite mentally ill, low IQ and low self esteem, and very lonely. And I slowly manipulated and molded her slowly over time to be my girlfriend.

Even then it’s not like she’d actually love me, it would be a semi forced “relationship” built off of emotional manipulation and love bombing. And the only way to stop her from leaving me for chad would be make her almost completely reliant on me.

 

[desucel1]

Go for it, I believe in you.

 

[Mrocznykichajnik]

Men who are sub8 have to manipulate in order to get some form of "love". Men who are sub5 don't get anything, no matter how good they are at manipulations. They might betabuxxx for some 50 year old desperate used up hags in the future

 

[BlueCore]

Same tbh

 

[Cheap fuck]

The only ''relationship'' I'd ever get would be a scenario where the woman is economically dependent on me. Other than that nothing else would work for me.