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I don't know what to do anymore, my life is truly hell and I feel more hopeless than ever.

Ryo_Hazuki

Ryo_Hazuki

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I know i'll be called an attention whore for having announced I was leaving twice only to come back later, and that's a fair criticism. I still stand by what I said about this community, but I also realize that I have no where else to go.

Both of my parents died not too long ago, I no longer have any friends, I don't enjoy anything anymore, I have multiple chronic health conditions which aren't life threatening but make my life much worse and cause chronic pain... I can't deal with this life. I'm middle aged, have no friends anymore, work a dead end low wage job, low IQ, sub4 ogre. I'm just not meant for this world.

I've come to terms with the fact that no woman is ever going to want anything to do with me, but at this point my problems go way beyond "no gf". I just want to find peace and stop suffering.

There's also almost nobody I can relate to anymore. I can't really relate to anyone under 30 or so, and most people my age are either married, have an actual career as opposed to some McJob. There are a couple guys at my job who seem to be in the same boat (around my age, sub4, likely trucel) but neither seem interested in socializing. They seem so beaten down from life that they've completely withdrawn from society as much as you reasonably can at this age. They sure as hell don't seem like they'd open up to me or anyone else for that matter.

I know most of you are much much younger than me. A lot of you are edgelords, but most of you will grow out of it, trust me. But maybe at least a few of you are oldcels who can relate. Side note, it's depressing thinking how many OGs have gone and never returned. They probably moved on with their life...but why can't I? I'm a failure even by old truecel standards.

I completely understand why no woman would want to be with someone who is an ugly failure on my level, i'm not even angry at anyone, I just want some respite from this crippling emptiness. I want to have hope but I can't find any.
 
Brutal. I really don't know what to say. If I had any plan in life I wouldn't be on this site. I would advise you to just keep on going and maybe try to find new copes. Also try NoFap and cold showers. This shit really gets you going.
 
I will never grow out if it I’m subhuman this world is evil, nihilistic, materialistic and all hope is lost. We are all now slaves to technology, our desires and sentimentalism
 
Brutal as fuck, but you have to think about why you're an "ugly failure" on that level; you were basically born in a world where you're immediately and automatically disadvantaged just by being born sub 4, where the effects of that and whatever other ailments you faced in life led you to this path where you now think you're undesirable, when in an alternate reality you probably would at least find one girlfriend, a steady job with the world not being fucked to such a degree, less who would despise and gaslight you just for being born the way you were, etc. Really the only advice I can give is to try anything that might better your existence even if it's shit right now, your problems as you said go far past just not being able to fuck. :smonk:
 
You had your chance. Downvoted and reported. This conversation is over.
 
This was too brutal for me to read because I might become you in the future. My parents are in their 60s so by the time I graduate from uni, I need to find a job so I can't rely on NEETbux, but unfortunately I'm not high-IQ and NT enough to get a well-paying job. I also have to take care of my disabled brother until the day he dies.
 
but at this point my problems go way beyond "no gf". I just want to find peace and stop suffering.
Relatable, when you live long enough for people to start dying around you and see how guys who got married and have kids are also depressed and miserable still much happier than us though, when you start fearing getting an heart attack or stroke while wishing you stop existing, ironic. All I feel lately is extreme nihilism and existential crisis.
 
That sounds brutal, how disabled is he?
He's severely autistic (Level 3 autism).
 
36 here, I feel your pain. Both of my parents are dead as well. :feelsjuice: @Ryo_Hazuki
 
You won’t find any copes here, you’ve left twice before and you’ll leave again for the same reason(s).

Do something different this time or leave now and save yourself from further disappointment.
 
He's severely autistic (Level 3 autism).
Im sorry man, for you and your brother. Life is so unfair.
 
Im sorry man, for you and your brother. Life is so unfair.
I also struggled with mental illnesses during my teen years. It got a lot better, but I had to develop a nihilistic view during the process. If my brother and I were normal, we would still be incels but maybe we could've supported each other, our parents wouldn't had to be at each other's throats 24/7, and our lives would've been normal.
 
I also struggled with mental illnesses during my teen years. It got a lot better, but I had to develop a nihilistic view during the process. If my brother and I were normal, we would still be incels but maybe we could've supported each other and our lives would've been normal.
"normal" lives are hard to get for incels like us and being mentally healthy nearly impossible, ive been through so much despair and depressions that I don't even know if I was born mentally ill or become this way through life experiences. I had two brothers, its good having someone to talk to irl, even if you disagree and fight most of the times.
 
I remember you saying " you will want to go back to 2020 later on"

It hits different after 3 years.
 
"normal" lives are hard to get for incels like us and being mentally healthy nearly impossible, ive been through so much despair and depressions that I don't even know if I was born mentally ill or become this way through life experiences. I had two brothers, its good having someone to talk to irl, even if you disagree and fight most of the times.
Our shitty experiences triggered our mental illnesses. I might be coping, but if I did still end up being mentally ill even with a neurotypical family, then I could've vented my problems to my brother and he could've helped me, unlike my parents. I've read posts from curries online about how their parents were abusive to them and to each other, but their siblings supported each other. I wish I had that.
 
Our shitty experiences triggered our mental illnesses. I might be coping, but if I did still end up being mentally ill even with a neurotypical family, then I could've vented my problems to my brother and he could've helped me, unlike my parents. I've read posts from curries online about how their parents were abusive to them and to each other, but their siblings supported each other. I wish I had that.
You're right.
 
You dont sound so low iq judging by how you write
 
There are a lot of us who still relate to one another. I've also found myself in despairing circumstances, with everything getting shittier and nothing getting better.

What we must think together is something to give us meaning. According to "that guy pete" from YT, we can find purpouse in: Family, Friends, Work, Hobbies.

We need to choose what's best suited for us in that and make meaning with that. Getting older makes everything shittier, life is shittier problems you had before accentuate. Friends start to driff out and work won't be good unless you invested a lot of time and effort into it, which most of us being neets and depressive fucks won't have.

What can i say? I also don't know what to do i'm getting older and while i have some "friends" there's gonna come a time when i'm alone. My parents are getting older and inevitably they will depart. I won't get a gf as i'm ugly as hell and i can't stop balding even when i tried to.

I just cope my way into oblivion. Did copes stop working for you? Why don't you try to get some semblance of a career? If anime/manga/videogames don't matter anymore to you, you may be better spending time studying something that interests you. Or seeing if you would like to make a story/game/music whatever.

I know it's kinda copeish but life is inherently meaningless. Even those chads with families will eventually find their lives unfulfilling, and even if they do not they will die like everyone else. So the question is. Do you have something that you want to do other than to get a gf? And if you do not, did you try your hardest to find it?

The problem we incels neets have is that we don't have aspirations because our lives have been shit from point 0. So we know we can't aspire to much and the things that we could theoretically get are not that appealing to make a strong commitment to them.

It's hard to make meaning of something which had none. So you have to make your own meaning. Either by getting a job you enjoy doing, or crafting something you like. Or travelling to places.
 
They seem so beaten down from life that they've completely withdrawn from society as much as you reasonably can at this age. They sure as hell don't seem like they'd open up to me or anyone else for that matter.
many men
 
Time to get sodium nitrite and die peacefully. It's beyond over for us. I am sorry boyo.
 
I've come to terms with the fact that no woman is ever going to want anything to do with me, but at this point my problems go way beyond "no gf". I just want to find peace and stop suffering.

I can relate to this. I keep pushing myself to come back to this site and reignite the “flame” I once had. The anger, hate, and sadness that I felt towards people because at least I felt something.

Now I don’t even care. Because at the time it was okay not to know what I wanted to do in life. I had no responsibilities, no life experience, I just had this site and worrying about getting good grades.

I know most of you are much much younger than me. A lot of you are edgelords, but most of you will grow out of it, trust me. But maybe at least a few of you are oldcels who can relate. Side note, it's depressing thinking how many OGs have gone and never returned. They probably moved on with their life...but why can't I? I'm a failure even by old truecel standards.

I completely understand why no woman would want to be with someone who is an ugly failure on my level, i'm not even angry at anyone, I just want some respite from this crippling emptiness. I want to have hope but I can't find any.

You and I joined a similar time. I recall you being a mod once, but I could be wrong.

I know how you feel about the original OGs. To think all the incels used to think that we’re going to be here forever. Thinking they were never going to ascend and still be in the same situation. Yet, years later and they’re all gone. Leaving just very few of us left.
 
I also have to take care of my disabled brother until the day he dies.
How disabled are we talking here? Like needs you to bathe him and has nothing going on in the noggin disabled or just can't work disabled? So long as he's all there mentally and it's not too difficult physically to take care of him, I'd say you're better off than 99% of the users on this forum. You may not ever have a wife or girlfriend but at least you have somebody.
 
I have multiple chronic health conditions
What conditions? I'm in a similar boat. I'm in my 30's and I'm completely fucked. I have my mom and sister but mom isn't going to be here much longer and my sister is already married and has her own life. When mom is gone I'll be completely alone.
 
How disabled are we talking here? Like needs you to bathe him and has nothing going on in the noggin disabled or just can't work disabled? So long as he's all there mentally and it's not too difficult physically to take care of him,
Closer to the former.
I'd say you're better off than 99% of the users on this forum. You may not ever have a wife or girlfriend but at least you have somebody.
How tf do I have it better than 99% of fakecels.is GrAYtard?
 
Nah, you know what to do
 
Because a lot of us have absolutely nobody.
I think it's better to be alone than take care of a grown baby for the rest of your life.
 
Dude if I had any words that you could maybe help ease your pain I would.

I can understand why no woman wants me either. I've fucked up plenty in life and I've hurt the people that I love a lot. At this point the only thing I want is to stop feeling bitter and depressed.
 
Time to get sodium nitrite and die peacefully. It's beyond over for us. I am sorry boyo.
Honestly, this was just a gut reaction because I was feeling suicidally depressed. I really hope something works out and you find peace. I am an ugly fuck myself, you have seen my pics before and told me it's over, on another alt. I wish we could talk more, I have even had surgery and I am still truecel af just like you. We both lost, in my case, puberty destroyed my face and turned me into a high T ogre. Before that I used to get some female attention and was treated much better, due to looking semi-decent and pretty-boyish. It doesn't matter any way since I didn't do anything with them and puberty destroyed my face. Now I will never have positive interactions with women ever again.

Ultimately, I decided to bite the bullet and lost my virginity to an escort back in 2020. This was a shitty experience and I couldn't even finish, after that I gave up on escortcelling. I am turning 26 this year, I still remember when I first started posting on r/incels back in 2016, you were there too, I never thought I would still be here without a girlfriend at this age. I assume you are 36 or 37 now. I sincerely hope you will respond to this.
 
Honestly, this was just a gut reaction because I was feeling suicidally depressed. I really hope something works out and you find peace. I am an ugly fuck myself, you have seen my pics before and told me it's over, on another alt. I wish we could talk more, I have even had surgery and I am still truecel af just like you. We both lost, in my case, puberty destroyed my face and turned me into a high T ogre. Before that I used to get some female attention and was treated much better, due to looking semi-decent and pretty-boyish. It doesn't matter any way since I didn't do anything with them and puberty destroyed my face. Now I will never have positive interactions with women ever again.

Ultimately, I decided to bite the bullet and lost my virginity to an escort back in 2020. This was a shitty experience and I couldn't even finish, after that I gave up on escortcelling. I am turning 26 this year, I still remember when I first started posting on r/incels back in 2016, you were there too, I never thought I would still be here without a girlfriend at this age. I assume you are 36 or 37 now. I sincerely hope you will respond to this.
Even though you're a zoomer, i can relate to your posts more than the vast majority of the active userbase. You're one of the few that actually gets it.

And yeah, I'm around that age. :feelsrope:
 
Great to see you back Ryo tbh. Always a welcome sight. It's a brutal circumstance though. Relatable thread. It is a shame. I also reel from the loss of people i've known in these spaces over the years. some die, some just move on because they don't have the energy anymore. It's brutal. If you're sticking around though I hope you manage to find a sense of community here again. You're always free to message me if you just want to talk shit about shit.
 
I know i'll be called an attention whore for having announced I was leaving twice only to come back later
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Pray for the inevitable collapse of today's society.
 
I know i'll be called an attention whore for having announced I was leaving twice only to come back later, and that's a fair criticism. I still stand by what I said about this community, but I also realize that I have no where else to go.

Both of my parents died not too long ago, I no longer have any friends, I don't enjoy anything anymore, I have multiple chronic health conditions which aren't life threatening but make my life much worse and cause chronic pain... I can't deal with this life. I'm middle aged, have no friends anymore, work a dead end low wage job, low IQ, sub4 ogre. I'm just not meant for this world.

I've come to terms with the fact that no woman is ever going to want anything to do with me, but at this point my problems go way beyond "no gf". I just want to find peace and stop suffering.

There's also almost nobody I can relate to anymore. I can't really relate to anyone under 30 or so, and most people my age are either married, have an actual career as opposed to some McJob. There are a couple guys at my job who seem to be in the same boat (around my age, sub4, likely trucel) but neither seem interested in socializing. They seem so beaten down from life that they've completely withdrawn from society as much as you reasonably can at this age. They sure as hell don't seem like they'd open up to me or anyone else for that matter.

I know most of you are much much younger than me. A lot of you are edgelords, but most of you will grow out of it, trust me. But maybe at least a few of you are oldcels who can relate. Side note, it's depressing thinking how many OGs have gone and never returned. They probably moved on with their life...but why can't I? I'm a failure even by old truecel standards.

I completely understand why no woman would want to be with someone who is an ugly failure on my level, i'm not even angry at anyone, I just want some respite from this crippling emptiness. I want to have hope but I can't find any.
I would say throw in the towel and NEET Maxx via some disability bullshit in a libtard state and can call it a day. Nothing else is left.
Brutal. I really don't know what to say. If I had any plan in life I wouldn't be on this site. I would advise you to just keep on going and maybe try to find new copes. Also try NoFap and cold showers. This shit really gets you going.
agreed
 
Side note, it's depressing thinking how many OGs have gone and never returned. They probably moved on with their life...but why can't I?
Same man. I have been in incel circles since I was 16. I'm almost 23 now. Seeing all of those OG incels moving on (even from the Sluthate days) while I sit here and rot with absolutely nothing changing about my situation is extremely demoralizing. There are very few people on here who actively participated in the old incelosphere. I feel like we are a practically extinct breed.
 
I still stand by what I said about this community, but I also realize that I have no where else to go.
I know that feel.
I hate 98% of this forum, but there's just nowhere else to go, nobody else to talk to, it's sad.

There's also almost nobody I can relate to anymore. I can't really relate to anyone under 30 or so, and most people my age are either married, have an actual career as opposed to some McJob.
This is 100% me.
People under 30 are brainwashed by social media, tiktok, and reddit. They have no own thoughts or oppinions anymore, they are only echo chambers on two legs that only repeat what they heard in the latest "reaction video" of the youtuber they like. That's also why you cannot have any serious discussion with them anymore, because they don't even have arguments since all their views are just repeated from a yt video they saw.
On the other hand, people my age and older, they're so mature that I cannot relate to them anymore, they're mature because they had a life full of social and sexual experiences, they have friends and partners, maybe even kids, while I've been alone 100% of the time in the past 10 years.
 
I know i'll be called an attention whore for having announced I was leaving twice only to come back later, and that's a fair criticism. I still stand by what I said about this community, but I also realize that I have no where else to go.

Both of my parents died not too long ago, I no longer have any friends, I don't enjoy anything anymore, I have multiple chronic health conditions which aren't life threatening but make my life much worse and cause chronic pain... I can't deal with this life. I'm middle aged, have no friends anymore, work a dead end low wage job, low IQ, sub4 ogre. I'm just not meant for this world.

I've come to terms with the fact that no woman is ever going to want anything to do with me, but at this point my problems go way beyond "no gf". I just want to find peace and stop suffering.

There's also almost nobody I can relate to anymore. I can't really relate to anyone under 30 or so, and most people my age are either married, have an actual career as opposed to some McJob. There are a couple guys at my job who seem to be in the same boat (around my age, sub4, likely trucel) but neither seem interested in socializing. They seem so beaten down from life that they've completely withdrawn from society as much as you reasonably can at this age. They sure as hell don't seem like they'd open up to me or anyone else for that matter.

I know most of you are much much younger than me. A lot of you are edgelords, but most of you will grow out of it, trust me. But maybe at least a few of you are oldcels who can relate. Side note, it's depressing thinking how many OGs have gone and never returned. They probably moved on with their life...but why can't I? I'm a failure even by old truecel standards.

I completely understand why no woman would want to be with someone who is an ugly failure on my level, i'm not even angry at anyone, I just want some respite from this crippling emptiness. I want to have hope but I can't find any.
believe I dont have any pain and dont struggle in life. but its not enough even to land a landwhale. women are pickier tha 5 or 10 years ago. everything is on their side. we have nothing to win and nothing to loose. I say this as a oldcel.
 

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