Serious How are your conversation skills? What do you even say to women?

[Yonno]

Like what the heck do you even say to girls to have a good convo? Any Convo I have with a girl just dies. I can't even think of anything to say, and nothing in common. I'm autistic but I'm really trying to develop my conversation skills. I honestly think half of you fakecels would ascend If you charisma max.

 

[what is happening]

I have never had a conversation with a girl.

Have only talked to them when necessary.

Or besides trying to message some online but that never went well.

Actually now I remember about three years ago a stripper on omegle talked to me for about an hour. Mainly just her talking about her life and I asked some questions. I didn't show my face though and she kept asking to see.

 

[Deleted member 17883]

Good

 

[Bane of Arthropods]

In a good mood I can talk to people decently well

 

[Yonno]

I have never had a conversation with a girl.

Have only talked to them when necessary.

Or besides trying to message some online but that never went well.

I think that's your problem. Mentalcel?

 

[Monk of Failure]

If it is with younger holes like of my age, then it's below average but if the holes are older like in 40s, 50s etc, then the conversation goes well, presumably older women think I will not hit on them.

 

[Yonno]

In a good mood I can talk to people decently well

Can you flirt?

 

[KingOfRome]

I honestly think half of you fakecels would ascend If you charisma max.

Because you're autistic. If you were NT, you'd realize just how uncomplicated socializing really is, and what you do isn't nearly as important as what you are.

 

[Valiant Virgin]

My conversation skills have improved over time. When I started approaching girls, I was a nervous wreck and couldn't hold a conversation to save myself. As I approached more and more, I became more comfortable with it, and on the occasions when the girl would actually stop and talk to me (which was less than half the ones I approached) I could carry the conversation for a couple of minutes. I think I would struggle on a date though.

 

[Bane of Arthropods]

Can you flirt?

Incel flirting = sexual harassment. We never stood a chance brother.

 

[Animecel2D]

The conversation dies because you are ugly and autistic. No matter what you say or do won’t change the fact they are repulsed by you and wish you would stop bothering them.

 

[79iqcel]

The conversation dies because you are ugly

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Nobody wants to talk to a mediocrity, I've found.
Takes either looks, great success or money.

 

[PPEcel]

You don't.

You converse with people as is minimally necessary in an academic or professional setting. For example:

"Do you recall the Brookings paper that Stevens covered last year?"
"Can you help me with this optimization problem? I'm a little rusty with Lagrange multipliers."

On the rare occasion I find myself in a social setting, I treat a femoid like I would a male acquaintance. Basic questions only, no philosophical or political discussions. If you are in a group with multiple normies and the conversation turns to sex and relationships, create some space. Check crude oil prices on CNBC, for example. Or take a phone call and leave, preferably to somewhere far away. Like Tokyo. Say you have an emergency and go to the airport.

 

[GeneticFilth]

The conversation dies because you are ugly and autistic. No matter what you say or do won’t change the fact they are repulsed by you and wish you would stop bothering them.

 

[BP_Renegade]

I've only ever noticed them talking about their boyfriend, so whats the point even.

 

[Modus Coperandi]

i talk to foids the same way i talk to men, i don't give tit bonus.

still i prefer not to talk to them, because:
1. they are simply too boring. i have never spoken to a interesting foid. no foid has ever taught me anything new.
2. they make it hard on purpose. i don't treat them special, but they make an effort to treat me bad. one word replies, going for fast escape, etc.
3. they all think i want in their pants, no matter what i say.
4. a lot of foids are giga narcissists, it's what happens when you're told all your life that you're a princess who only deserves the best.

it's quite clear to me that i get stereotyped "strawmanned" in foids heads.
it was over before it began for people like us.
if you have good looks foids will strawman you to have a good personality and be worth talking to,
they will make it easy, keep the convo running, etc.
if you have bad looks its the exact opposite.



just go make a chadfish and see if your personality is really as bad as you think. i think you're in for a surprise.

 

[deathsh+rt]

I fuck this part up too but if I was more confident I would just walk up to them and say hi are any of you ladies nuns because if you are I will fuck you like the holy ghost himself.

 

[Irredeemable]

Like my sex life, non-existent.

 

[jerrycan dan]

Because you're autistic. If you were NT, you'd realize just how uncomplicated socializing really is, and what you do isn't nearly as important as what you are.

Isn't that just because most of the nitty gritty is unspoken and done on autopilot? Not that a full blown autist could ever manually mimic it to the point of seeming like a completely normal person unless he was massively halo'd.

 

[Deleted member 18435]

In a good mood I can talk to people decently well

Same. It makes no difference.

 

[KingOfRome]

Isn't that just because most of the nitty gritty is unspoken and done on autopilot? Not that a full blown autist could ever manually mimic it to the point of seeming like a completely normal person unless he was massively halo'd.

Autistics with high IQ's pass for NT all the time. Nonverbal communication that comes natural to NT's can be studied since it comes down mainly to involuntary tension of the facial muscles, changes in vocal tone, and subconscious bodily posturing that generally carry the same meanings from person to person. High IQ autistics realize this and put in the work necessary to overcome their handicap.

Here's a catalog of different forms of nonverbal communication and their meanings:

Using Body Language

Body language is an important part of communication - here is information about how to use it.

changingminds.org

 

[Joker]

I'm autistic

then it's over
coming from a fellow autistcel

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Mine are excellent but I purposefully do not talk to females.

 

[Excluded]

I could test that it doesn't matter what i say to them. They don't wanna speak with me and be close to me, so i can't do anything. It just never began at any moment. My personality is already bad at first sight so it's over.

 

[Deleted member 818]

Fucking abysmal.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

The conversation dies because you are ugly

 

[Speed]

If you have to put in more effort than the other person to keep the conversation going, it's over with.

As for actual subject matter most normies talk about their history, then jobs, followed by hobbies to see if there are common interests.

It's all just window dressing before you rip each other's clothes off.

 

[Astro1T]

there is no conversation for your face bro

 

[Deleted member 18214]

3/10 and below = bad conversation skills with women
8/10 and above = good conversation skills with women

 

[FinnCel]

It's enough for chad to say "suck my dick"

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

“Conversation skills” are bluepilled garbage

There is a point that some autists and other people reach where they cant even communicate, but other than that its not about your communication or conversation skills, its about looks.

This is why foids say “i just want a guy who can me laugh” or “i want someone who i can talk to”. They assume that they like chad because they laugh with him, when its really the other way around. It wouldnt matter if you were the funniest comedian ever, when foids talk to chad they will laugh more than they ever would with you. Chads looks make everything he says funny and interesting. If you have ever heard normies talk, they are extremely lacking in conversational skills by their own logic. They talk about “how is school” “how are the kids” “what do you think about (news story)?” and other bland, uninteresting garbage.

A conversation is a two way thing. It wouldnt matter if you always had something cool and fascinating to say, if the foid is uninterested, the conversation will die. They will just answer “yeah” “i guess” and “thats right” and you will always have to awkwardly keep the conversation going because there isn't really a conversation in the first place.

What is “charisma”, what is “confidence”?
LOOKS
ITS ALL ABOUT LOOKS

Ugly men dont have charisma even if they do the same exact things that confident and charismatic chad does.

A lot of guys will say they have trouble talking to women but really its the women that have trouble talking to them. Men have to become so good at keeping a foids interest and jestermaxxing just to get her to even respond with more than two or three words. If a foid is interested she will keep the conversation going even if the man doesn't say much of anything.

 

[Hate_my_life]

4/10 and below = bad conversation skills with women even if NT
5/10 to 6/10 = good conversation skills if NT
7/10 and above = good conversation skills with women

Fixed.

 

[Deleted member 22571]

I notice at work that whenever a ugly guy tries talking to a foid, the foid always shows signs of uninterest and the ugly guy always carries the conversation.

 

[Haywire]

bad i would say and im not sure i guess surroundings and what you are doing would be topics idk

 

[78980n]

Fine

 

[The Incel Decade]

Like what the heck do you even say to girls to have a good convo? Any Convo I have with a girl just dies. I can't even think of anything to say, and nothing in common. I'm autistic but I'm really trying to develop my conversation skills. I honestly think half of you fakecels would ascend If you charisma max.

You need to be jester maxed and low inhib. Women have nothing interesting to say themselves which is why they like extroverts.

Women and men communicate differently. Men chat about hobbies, women chat about gossip and small talk. If a man chats about women stuff with a woman then he's just put in the friend zone. If a man chats about man stuff and his hobbies with women she'll want nothing to do with him. This is why non-NT men just don't click with women.

 

[FukFeminism]

In a good mood I can talk to people decently well

 

[Deleted member 19971]

Don't ask me, I've never had a real conversation with a female outside my family.

 

[Incel Wizard]

You need to be jester maxed and low inhib. Women have nothing interesting to say themselves which is why they like extroverts.

Women and men communicate differently. Men chat about hobbies, women chat about gossip and small talk. If a man chats about women stuff with a woman then he's just put in the friend zone. If a man chats about man stuff and his hobbies with women she'll want nothing to do with him. This is why non-NT men just don't click with women.

What does NT mean?

 

[FlamingCel]

We would talk about the blackpill

 

[Deleted member 19546]

No different than talking with anybody else, it's nothing you did wrong, they are jusr not attracted to you.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

I am decent enough at conversing with women. I just talk to them like any other person.

 

[Deleted member 20139]

I struggle even with talking to my close family, I'm afraid of saying dumb shit in public so I've basically never bought food for myself. I'm constantly in a defensive state of mind during the one time I have leave my house in the year. I stopped playing online games with people because I was constantly ridiculed for how retarded my voice sounds.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

"Stop talking shit about how ugly I am you fat cunt."

 

[Llama]

Hi, Thanks, Sorry, and Okay is usually what I say to foids if they are forced to talk with me or interact with me

 

[EdwardVanDerKraal]

Imagine talking to girls. I can't.

 

[muharremabi]

Absolute shit.

 

[kvn]

I cant have conversation with females outside professional topics but from nt normies i noticed generally the lower iq is the stuff you say the better

honestly think half of you fakecels would ascend If you charisma max

Charisma is genetic

 

[anon]

In my entire life I don't think I've exchanged more than a few dozen short sentences with a female outside my family. Most of it was in school and it was always school related.