LDAR Helicopter parents create incels regardless of race

[Deleted member 20434]

They’re also very hypocritical. They won’t:

1. let you go out to parties (if you ever got invited, or if you just wanted to bomb it and try making friends) because you’ll end up “trying drugs”. and then they wonder why you don’t get invited to parties or have a social group like a normal person.
2. they don’t let you go outside (at least for incels born after 2000 like me) because you’ll “get shot by a cop / become a gangmember” (if you’re a blackcel) or end up “a drug addict” (if any other race) - and then they yell at you and degrade you for “being on the computer / phone all day”.

And then they wonder why we don’t go to parties, have friends, hate talking to people, and have overall shitty social skills leading to a shitty and negative view on life. It’s because of them. Back before the greater age of the internet, my dad could roam the streets for sunrise to sunset. If I was outside for more than 10 minutes, my parents would literally post an amber alert, even though I’m old enough and in shape enough to handle my own. It’s over.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

I grew up with all of this. Fuck my mom for making me grow up as a social outcast weirdo

 

[Emba]

I see that shit and i cringe for them kids! They are so doomed.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

I see that shit and i cringe for them kids! They are so doomed.

I grew up with all of this. Fuck my mom for making me grow up as a social outcast weirdo

I’m living through it as we speak

 

[ionlycopenow]

I remember at a new year's party when I was 9 there was this kid whose mom wouldn't even let go outside to launch fireworkers because he might "catch a cold" in southern weather. He stared at us through the window longingly.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

Truthpill.

Most incels, especially ethnics, had parents breathing down their neck at all times. My mother would beat me if I cussed, so even now in my mid 20’s I feel awkward cussing. Meanwhile all the foids around me can’t say a sentence without including the word Fuck.

 

[FukFeminism]

Truthpill.

Most incels, especially ethnics, had parents breathing down their neck at all times. My mother would beat me if I cussed, so even now in my mid 20’s I feel awkward cussing. Meanwhile all the foids around me can’t say a sentence without including the word Fuck.

I'm not sure that Jesus loved me

 

[Emba]

I’m living through it as we speak

The fear in those parents is high!
They must believe the media crap.

In reality crime and mayhem is going down. Except in urban areas where it's common.

 

[wizardcel]

It was over for me since day one anyway. So, it wouldn't have mattered.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

I'm not sure that Jesus loved me

He loves you, just hates your sin. Let him into your heart, repent and be cleansed in the blood.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Truthpill.

Most incels, especially ethnics, had parents breathing down their neck at all times. My mother would beat me if I cussed, so even now in my mid 20’s I feel awkward cussing. Meanwhile all the foids around me can’t say a sentence without including the word Fuck.

it’s hard me for me as a blackcel because supposedly literally the second I step outsid I’m gonna get gunned down by a cop or sold crack by some gang banger. But I can’t imagine the hell for Asians. I literally saw an asian in my freshmen year of high school with grey hairs

 

[Deleted member 19756]

Truthpill.

Most incels, especially ethnics, had parents breathing down their neck at all times. My mother would beat me if I cussed, so even now in my mid 20’s I feel awkward cussing. Meanwhile all the foids around me can’t say a sentence without including the word Fuck.

That happened to me until my late 20s and then I just stopped giving a fuck. Fuck this, fuck that, fuck it all.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Oh, and I just realized, my mom thinks I’m gonna join a gang if I go outside, but she was the first person to belittle me by yelling at me for being a “nigga” at 9 years old when I got a question on some homework wrong

I was also body slammed by my mother at 10, choked out by my father from 7-8 years old, saw my parents fight continuously to the point where I almost had to call 911 up until 6 years old, and the most devasting to my sanity was being molested at 8. Shit eats me up inside daily. Can’t seem above my blanket sheets or else I get a flash back and flinch.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I grew up with all of this. Fuck my mom for making me grow up as a social outcast weirdo

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Helicopter parents is definitely an incel trait. So much of how you deal with problems is all early childhood shit, and your parents have not only failed then, but they continue to fail and make you worse up until you're 40, and are taking care of them, because you never learned autonomy.

 

[Deleted member 19079]

i dont go out anyways so it wouldnt have mattered tbh.

 

[Rassimov]

Oh, and I just realized, my mom thinks I’m gonna join a gang if I go outside, but she was the first person to belittle me by yelling at me for being a “nigga” at 9 years old when I got a question on some homework wrong

Helicopter parenting doesn't rely on authority figures, but arousing a feeling of guilt in children. In the olden days a stern conservative father would beat the shit out of you for sneaking out of the house at 1 am because you broke his rules, but in this case you still had a out-dated paternal figure to rebel against without feeling bad about it. On the contrary; helicopter parents try to be your friends who just want the best for you - this way they put you on a guilt trip. By sneaking out at 1 am to fuck around and get drunk you're not afraid of the punitive consequences that might come after, instead you're afraid hurting your 'loving' parents feelings.

 

[Napoleon de Nascar]

Smother wanted to stop my social progress

 

[ChinaCurry]

Could be worse, at least you realise your parents retardedness fucked you over, looking at ethnics in the west their parents fucked them over way more, yet they actually believe their parents did a good job and just blame society!

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Helicopter parenting doesn't rely on authority figures, but arousing a feeling of guilt in children. In the olden days a stern conservative father would beat the shit out of you for sneaking out of the house at 1 am because you broke his rules, but in this case you still had a out-dated paternal figure to rebel against without feeling bad about it. On the contrary; helicopter parents try to be your friends who just want the best for you - this way they put you on a guilt trip. By sneaking out at 1 am to fuck around and get drunk you're not afraid of the punitive consequences that might come after, instead you're afraid hurting your 'loving' parents feelings.

This tbh.

Helicopter parents is definitely an incel trait. So much of how you deal with problems is all early childhood shit, and your parents have not only failed then, but they continue to fail and make you worse up until you're 40, and are taking care of them, because you never learned autonomy.

Dude i dont even know how to take the fucking city train and I’m 16-17. It’s fucking OVER.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

This tbh.



Dude i dont even know how to take the fucking city train and I’m 16-17. It’s fucking OVER.

The worst part is that they instilled cowardness in you, so you have no ability to assert your own needs.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

The worst part is that they instilled cowardness in you, so you have no ability to assert your own needs.

Exactly. Every time I step outside, I was told that I was gonna be raped, shot by a cop or gang member, become a drug addict or a hobo etc. Now they yell at me for being inside almost all the time, and then I go outside for more than 20 minutes, they’ll put up a fucking amber alert. I’m not even kidding. I can’t navigate my neighborhood AT ALL.

 

[Player]

Oh, I know it from experience, alright.

 

[Todeswunsch]

Exactly. Every time I step outside, I was told that I was gonna be raped, shot by a cop or gang member, become a drug addict or a hobo etc. Now they yell at me for being inside almost all the time, and then I go outside for more than 20 minutes, they’ll put up a fucking amber alert. I’m not even kidding. I can’t navigate my neighborhood AT ALL.

Know that. That fucking hypocrisy is so fucking annoying. They kept you in a safe and isolated environment for all your life and on some random day they will release you into the wild - you are a fish, that has never been in the ocean, that has been sheltered and isolated, that hasn't learned to adapt to the harsh conditions in the wilderness. And then they wonder, why you are social retard. They wonder, why you fail. Our parents were more conservation biologists than real parents.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Know that. That fucking hypocrisy is so fucking annoying. They kept you in a safe and isolated environment for all your life and on some random day they will release you into the wild - you are a fish, that has never been in the ocean, that has been sheltered and isolated, that hasn't learned to adapt to the harsh conditions in the wilderness. And then they wonder, why you are social retard. They wonder, why you fail. Our parents were more conservation biologists than real parents.

So fucking true.

“Stop being on that damn computer, and go outside!” (And do what? Go where? You never let me my learn my neighborhood / city, or any neighboring towns.)
“Why don’t you have friends?!” (You never allowed me to have any.)
“Are you gay?! Why aren’t you getting laid?!” (Not only am I unattractive, but you never let me have my own social group to try and get a girlfriend.)

 

[Todeswunsch]

So fucking true.

“Stop being on that damn computer, and go outside!” (And do what? Go where? You never let me my learn my neighborhood / city, or any neighboring towns.)
“Why don’t you have friends?!” (You never allowed me to have any.)
“Are you gay?! Why aren’t you getting laid?!” (Not only am I unattractive, but you never let me have my own social group to try and get a girlfriend.)

Yes. It could literally be a statement from my parents - word by word. At first, they don't want you to make friends and then they are angry, when they see the result of their own education methods: I only had one (1!) friend, while growing up and whenever I brought him home, my parents said, that he wasn't good for me and constantly belittled me for having him as a friend - although he was the only one, who constantly stood by my side, while all other kids constantly bullied me and refused to do anything with me. Now they wonder, why I don't have the proper emotional/social capacities of a young adult. They scream at someone, because seeing detrimental social skills is a constant reminder of their educational failure.

 

[StaroRavager]

Helicopter parents will cripple you for life. It would take far too long to list all of the negative results their “parenting style” yields. Being born as an incel with helicopter parents is a nasty combination

 

[Cheezecel]

well at least most parents operate in good faith

can't say the same about foids and normies who go out of their way to make the lives of others miserable

 

[KingOfRome]

Mild-to-moderate forms of child abuse include but are not limited to:

• Helicopter parenting
• Lying, gaslighting, creating false expectations
• Overfeeding or underfeeding
• Repurposing for familial infighting
• Verbal assault

Feel free to add to the list if you want. I have a hunch that most incels got at least one of these from their parent(s).

 

[mcfroggy]

So fucking true.

“Stop being on that damn computer, and go outside!” (And do what? Go where? You never let me my learn my neighborhood / city, or any neighboring towns.)
“Why don’t you have friends?!” (You never allowed me to have any.)
“Are you gay?! Why aren’t you getting laid?!” (Not only am I unattractive, but you never let me have my own social group to try and get a girlfriend.)

I have this conversation in circles with my parents, they just blame it on me in the end for 'not trying hard enough to be social'. Gotta love it. Especially when they made us move a lot growing up, and would spam call when I was out to 'make sure I was OK'.

 

[Vermilioncore]

But they keep you safe. Now I accept having helicopter parents. At least I'm cared for by them

 

[mcfroggy]

But they keep you safe. Now I accept having helicopter parents. At least I'm cared for by them

How do they care for you if they actively stunted you emotionally/mentally/socially?

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

How do they care for you if they actively stunted you emotionally/mentally/socially?

he’s gaslighted by his helicopter parents if anything

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

My parents want me to socialize more but I don't get invited to anything because of my ugly hapa features.

 

[The Abyss]

My parents were a mix of uninvolved (http://theattachedfamily.com/membersonly/?p=2151) & helicopter, instilled a sense of dread at the world but nothing in the way of building on independence, skillsets or confidence.

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

My parents want me to socialize more but I don't get invited to anything because of my ugly hapa features.

hapas that mix tends to get a lot of problems mentally but at least come from supportive non lower class neighborhoods and families. physically you guys don’t look awful if you don’t have asian eyes. one is trying to advance on my oneitis

 

[Ugly_equals_Death]

100% true

 

[TheMinimalist]

This answers so many questions of mine. Thanks for the high iq thread

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

hapas that mix tends to get a lot of problems mentally but at least come from supportive non lower class neighborhoods and families. physically you guys don’t look awful if you don’t have asian eyes. one is trying to advance on my oneitis

A good-looking hapa male is a rarity, I'm mestizo but I have the same features that ER had, weird-shaped nose, puffy lips and weird eyelids. All of these combined with years of social isolation will make you socially invisible to even the geekiest group ever.

Even curries had it better than hapa-looking males.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Being born as an incel with helicopter parents is a nasty combination

Yep...

Mild-to-moderate forms of child abuse include but are not limited to:

• Helicopter parenting
• Lying, gaslighting, creating false expectations
• Overfeeding or underfeeding
• Repurposing for familial infighting
• Verbal assault

Feel free to add to the list if you want. I have a hunch that most incels got at least one of these from their parent(s).

And many, many more. Physical assault was apart of mine. And no, I’m not talking about a belt whopping (which itself is traumatizing), I’m talking full on body slamming, throwing boiling water down my shirt, etc. I still have the scar from when they did it and that area of my chest is sensitive af when I take a shower. Never got it checked out.

he’s gaslighted by his helicopter parents if anything

Yep, he’s brainwashed

This answers so many questions of mine. Thanks for the high iq thread

No problem. I’m in high school at the moment and I tried to explain to my dad what helicopter parenting was, but all claimed that he was trying to “stop me from running around without purpose”. I have no purpose when I have helicopter parents. My only purpose is to stay inside all day.

I have this conversation in circles with my parents, they just blame it on me in the end for 'not trying hard enough to be social'. Gotta love it. Especially when they made us move a lot growing up, and would spam call when I was out to 'make sure I was OK'.

I got an amber alert put up on me while I sat in the backseat of a Uber on the way to a local mall for an attempt at normiemaxxxing.

 

[inceldaygamer_]

I remember at a new year's party when I was 9 there was this kid whose mom wouldn't even let go outside to launch fireworkers because he might "catch a cold" in southern weather. He stared at us through the window longingly.

This sounds like me. My mom would always get my dad to "enforce" things. It was embarrassing in front of the other normie kids.

 

[Deleted member 20790]

I remember my mom threatening to call the police on me for staying out on a weeknight with some of the only normies who ever invited me out.

 

[EspyPsychw]

Absolutely. My mom waited till I went off to college to let me go outside other than for school. She also bitched at me for playing video games. Once I got to college I played video games all night and slept all day. If she had let me live a normal life maybe I wouldn't be here. It's mostly my social awkwardness and anxiety holding me back.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Just got yelled at to go to bed because it’s 10:00 on a school night (mind you I’m already in my room I’m just exercising), while my peers are probably somewhere pissing drunk asf on somebody’s lawn. It’s over

Absolutely. My mom waited till I went off to college to let me go outside other than for school. She also bitched at me for playing video games. Once I got to college I played video games all night and slept all day. If she had let me live a normal life maybe I wouldn't be here. It's mostly my social awkwardness and anxiety holding me back.

This tbh. This is why I’d be used to jail, or solitary confinement. Ever since I popped out the womb, I’ve been on house arrest.

 

[Deleted member 1042]

Helicopter parenting is a form of abuse, imo. Unfortunately, it is gradual, passive, mental abuse, too intangible to exercise judgement.

Just lol at parents who do this to their children. Imagine the narcissism that goes into this behavior. Perhaps they believe they are protecting their child, believing that they know what’s best. Perhaps they are living vicariously through their little cum clone, the perfect cumbot. Or perhaps they are so deranged they do not even care about those things, they merely get off on authority and the dependence the child has with them. Either way, just lol. The reality is they killed off their legacy and made the kid despise them. The reality is you son of a bitches will rot in nursing homes (if you are lucky) because you deserve it. Death to boomers. I totally understand Lanza’s frustrations and despair. Let this be a lesson to would-be parents and boomers who have stumbled upon this god forsaken shit hole.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Helicopter parenting is a form of abuse, imo. Unfortunately, it is gradual, passive, mental abuse, too intangible to exercise judgement.

Just lol at parents who do this to their children. Imagine the narcissism that goes into this behavior. Perhaps they believe they are protecting their child, believing that they know what’s best. Perhaps they are living vicariously through their little cum clone, the perfect cumbot. Or perhaps they are so deranged they do not even care about those things, they merely get off on authority and the dependence the child has with them. Either way, just lol. The reality is they killed off their legacy and made the kid despise them. The reality is you son of a bitches will rot in nursing homes (if you are lucky) because you deserve it. Death to boomers. I totally understand Lanza’s frustrations and despair. Let this be a lesson to would-be parents and boomers who have stumbled upon this god forsaken shit hole.

True that man. I have ADHD so you can imagine the hell I go through - I want desperately want friends, and compassion, not just from girls, just real genuine companionship. I can’t imagine the hell Lanza went though.. Asperger people are already anti social and need to work on their social skills, instead of isolating them even further.

 

[wide_eyed_optimism_]

Personally my parents are just bullies. Way worse than any bully I could encounter at school. They fucked me up royally on many levels. Even my looks, there's no way all the stress didn't take a toll.

Idk what it's like to have helicopter parents who aren't hostile to you (whole different thing), but, couldn't you just go to parties anyway and tell them you got lost or something? If your parents love you and aren't dangerous, but won't let you develop properly due to their messed up opinions, I say stand your ground and do whatever it takes, "get lost" constantly, who cares.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Idk what it's like to have helicopter parents who aren't hostile to you (whole different thing), but, couldn't you just go to parties anyway and tell them you got lost or something? If your parents love you and aren't dangerous, but won't let you develop properly due to their messed up opinions, I say stand your ground and do whatever it takes, "get lost" constantly, who cares.

I got the police called on me, so...

 

[wide_eyed_optimism_]

I got the police called on me, so...

Tell the cops you got lost when they find you and to take you back home (or you can also tell the truth, but cops usually take the parents side, they'll see that you're socially stunted, and they don't realize that's damage from their parenting, their logic is "i dont like this kid -> he's wrong -> the parents are right"). Don't let your parents know anything about who you hang out with so cops don't look in their home in the middle of a party. If they get more serious with the helicopter parenting in response, so be it, keep escaping.

Idk man just throwing out ideas. My point is, cops won't put you in jail for "getting lost", and unlike mine your parents aren't a danger to you, so, if you think about it, there's a lot of room for you to get your way. Don't get me wrong I 100% feel you, just giving ideas that may or may not help.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

Tell the cops you got lost when they find you and to take you back home (or you can also tell the truth, but cops usually take the parents side, they'll see that you're socially stunted, and they don't realize that's damage from their parenting, their logic is "i dont like this kid -> he's wrong -> the parents are right"). Don't let your parents know anything about who you hang out with so cops don't look in their home in the middle of a party. If they get more serious with the helicopter parenting in response, so be it, keep escaping.

Idk man just throwing out ideas. My point is, cops won't put you in jail for "getting lost", and unlike mine your parents aren't a danger to you, so, if you think about it, there's a lot of room for you to get your way. Don't get me wrong I 100% feel you, just giving ideas that may or may not help.

I’ll try that. Before my parents used to abuse me with boiling water and shit but now that I’m a bit older I can escape. I’ll keep trying. I convinced my dad to get me a train card today, so I’ll see if he really gets it for me or not.