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Blackpill [Hard To Swallow Edition] The Greatest Trick Society Ever Pulled Was Convincing Men To Adhere To A Feminized Standard Of Masculinity & Be Proud Of It

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Ever heard of this quote:
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Well here's the thing, society has basically done this to men, and many men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) don't seem to be aware of this. Even though its right in their face and OUR ENTIRE HISTORY conveys this

Many men (incels included) don't seem to realize that they've been tricked, so they are still clinging to modern day blue pilled concepts

I find it funny how so many incels can give up other aspects of the blue pill (personality matters, just be confident, etc), but then there are some aspects they just can't let go of, and that's usually because its tied to their ego. Once you let go of your ego, none of these modern day feminist concepts will matter to you anymore (and yes, modern day "courtship norms" are due to feminism, they aren't "masculine in nature")



I keep seeing so many incels going on and on about "feeling desired", "attracting women", "validation", "love", etc and how not getting these things makes them "less masculine", but has any of these guys even asked themselves:

WHEN did these things become the new "standard of masculinity"? (you can't actually believe this was always the norm, that would be delusional)

Think about your ancestors for a second, who hundreds of years ago would rape and kill like its a normal part of everyday life

Do you think they obsessed about "being desired" or "female validation"? (honestly)

Or were women just something to be bought and/or claimed? (I think we all know what's the honest answer here)

Lets use the white race as an example (since we all know about the Vikings as they are very popular)

Do you think all the Vikings that were raiding towns and villages in England hundreds of years ago, gave a fuck whether or not the women they were raping "desired" them or thought they were "attractive enough"?

NO THEY DID NOT
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ADHERED TO A STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
THAT WAS "MASCULINE IN NATURE"



Men are no longer adhering to a legitimate standard of masculinity and society has most men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) convinced that a woman wanting to fuck you because you "look cute in your pics" is "masculinity", when its actually men adopting A FEMALE STANDARD OF MATE ACQUISITION

Having a sex partner choose you BECAUSE you are "attractive" to them, is a very feminine thing

WERE MAMMALS NOT BIRDS

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

Men in the past have usually acquired women through these three methods:
1. Conquest - (Rape, taking over enemy lands and claiming their women, claiming a defeated kings queen, etc)
2. Diplomacy - (Arranged marriages, political deals, merging dynasties, ending wars, etc)
3. Payment - (Paying a father a "bride price" to wed his daughter, prostitution, buying a slave, etc)


This is what "REAL MEN" did in the past

Not doll themselves up and pick clothes that "goes well with their eyes", or wear jeans that "makes their butt look cute", or wear a hairstyle that "accentuates their jaw line and warrior skull" :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Men today are feminine as fuck, I want no part of this, never have, never will!

One thing that so many men (especially incels) express shame about IS SOMETHING MEN IN THE PAST DID AS A NORM (prostitution)

It was a normal thing for even Kings and Lords to fuck whores for payment, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL "MASCULINE STANDARD" FOR MASCULINITY

But fast forward to modern times, and all of a sudden its "shameful", "emasculating" or "cucked", because now its "masculine" to get sex because a woman thinks your jaw looks good and your butt looks cute in some jeans :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek: (WTF, are you guys REALLY falling for this shit?)

A lot of you guys have fallen for the trick, hook, line, and sinker



Here's the truth

MEN HAVE BECOME THE BITCHES, AND MOST OF YOU ARE IRONICALLY TRYING TO ADHERE TO THIS STANDARD

I just find it funny that what a lot of men (even incels) consider "manly" or a "feat of masculinity" IS LITERALLY THE MOST FEMININE THING EVER (self beautification)

Its just so funny when you think about it:
A man rapes a woman (takes what he wants by force) - "He's not a "real man", he should feel ashamed"

A man pays a woman for sex (strikes a deal/coerces) - "He's not a "real man", he should be ashamed"

A man attracts women via self beautification and/or being attractive (LITERAL FEMININE BEHAVIOR AND CRITERIA) - "What a man, I want to be like him"

JFL

Now today men are sending "dick pics" like how women send "nudes", they are taking these abs shots where their underwear is pulled down near their crotch like its a "tease pic", they are focusing on which angles to use, what makes their eyes look better, soon a lot of men will even be using makeup (yes, just watch and see)

Ironically its like the wool has been pulled over men's eyes (especially incels) and we act like this is normal for "masculinity"

THIS WAS NEVER NORMAL, THIS SHIT IS FEMININE AS FUCK

Men used to be judged on their:
Wealth
Combat ability
Bravery
Knowledge
Honor
Etc, etc, etc

NOW MEN ARE BITCHES JUST LIKE WOMEN :feelskek:

That's the greatest trick society ever pulled, because you're so busy trying to play the game to get a piece of the pie

So busy trying to "looksmax" to maybe get some scraps off of the table

That you don't realize the rules changed and you are basically NOT EVEN A MAN ANYMORE (MEN TODAY ARE PRETTY MUCH WOMBLESS WOMEN WITH PENISES)

MEN HAVE BECOME WOMEN


The lines are starting to blur, you can't really blame those mentally ill "trans" whatevers at this point. Men don't even act like men anymore, because they aren't even being judged based on masculine criteria anymore, men have been "bitchified" :feelskek:

I FIND IT FUNNY HOW INCELS DON'T SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE FEMINIZATION OF MASCULINITY (MEN BEING JUDGED BASED ON LOOKS LIKE WOMEN) AND THE "SOYMALE" EPIDEMIC

THEY ARE DEFINITELY LINKED




The value system of masculinity has changed, its always been a norm (in the past) for fathers to take their sons to brothels (especially if you go way back), it was never something frowned up or seen as "shameful" or "not manly"

Men just allowed themselves over time to basically be feminized, and now men are the bitches who have to beautify themselves like women to "appear attractive", that was never a male thing before these times

Sorry, I'm not taking part in that game, tbh even if I woke up a 10/10 guy tomorrow I'm not doing that degrading shit, I will not liken myself to a woman and lower myself to the level of a female. I will take what I want in life by force or claim it through resources, but I will not pretty myself up to woo someone into giving me it

That is the epitome of femininity and submissiveness, and ironically that is the norm for males in this age

Having to pretty yourself up like a female to be judged on your body parts, that's supposed to be for women not men

Men today not only have to play their traditional role with all its shortcomings, they also now have to play the role of the female too JFL (its ridiculous, its sad but at the same time, its so funny :feelskek:)



So allow me to repeat myself and conclude this topic

The rest of you can keep falling for this bullshit and taking part in this blue pilled feminized standard of masculinity, but I won't take part

I will gladly fuck prostitutes & escorts with a smile :feelskek:, with no shame or regret (LIKE MEN DID BEFORE ME)

I will NOT liken myself to a female and obsess about "attention", "attraction", "desire", "validation", "love", etc (men in the past did not obsess over these things like men do today)

I WILL CLAIM WHAT I WANT IN LIFE THROUGH FORCE, COERCION OR RESOURCES

LIKE "REAL MEN" DID IN THE PAST

NOT BY ADHERING THIS BULLSHIT MODERN DAY FEMINIZED STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
 
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Prostitution is not a solution for inceldom. If you believe it is, go away and make money so you can pay whores and leave us alone.
 
High Iq post should be in sewers where all high iq cel are based
 
This reads like a flier but I like it
High IQ and truthpilled even I am heavily guilty of what you're saying
 
I agree that modern masculine man is designed by women, ive been saying metrosexuals have woman like thinking for decades. I dont care for female recognition and acceptance because i dont value them anymore, they are so wicked and shallow that i dont want to have anything to do with them.
 
Ever heard of this quote:
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Well here's the thing, society has basically done this to men, and many men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) don't seem to be aware of this. Even though its right in their face and OUR ENTIRE HISTORY conveys this

Many men (incels included) don't seem to realize that they've been tricked, so they are clinging to modern day blue pilled concepts

I find it funny how so many incels can give up other aspects of the blue pill (personality matters, just be confident, etc), but then there are some aspects they just can't let go of, and that's usually because its tied to their ego. Once you let go of your ego, none of these modern day feminist concepts will matter to you anymore (and yes, modern day "courtship norms" are due to feminism, they aren't "masculine in nature")



I keep seeing so many incels going on and on about "feeling desired", "attracting women", "validation", "love", etc and how not getting these things makes them "less masculine", but has any of these guys even asked themselves:

WHEN did these things become the new "standard of masculinity"? (you can't actually believe this was always the norm, that would be delusional)

Think about your ancestors for a second, who hundreds of years ago would rape and kill like its a normal part of everyday life

Do you think they obsessed about "being desired" or "female validation"? (honestly)

Or were women just something to be bought and/or claimed? (I think we all know what's the honest answer here)

Lets use the white race as an example (since we all know about the Vikings as they are very popular)

Do you think all the Vikings that were raiding towns and villages in England hundreds of years ago, gave a fuck whether or not the women they were raping "desired" them or thought they were "attractive enough"?

NO THEY DID NOT
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ADHERED TO A STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
THAT WAS "MASCULINE IN NATURE"



Men are no longer adhering to a standard of masculinity and society has most men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) convinced that a woman wanting to fuck you because you "look cute in your pics" is "masculinity", when its actually men adopting A FEMALE STANDARD OF MATE ACQUISITION

Having a sex partner choose you BECAUSE you are "attractive" to them, is a very feminine thing

WERE MAMMALS NOT BIRDS

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

Men in the past have usually acquired women through these three methods:
1. Conquest - (Rape, taking over enemy lands and claiming their women, claiming a defeated kings queen, etc)
2. Diplomacy - (Arranged marriages, political deals, merging dynasties, ending wars, etc)
3. Payment - (Paying a father a "bride price" to wed his daughter, prostitution, buying a slave, etc)


This is what "REAL MEN" did in the past

Not doll themselves up and pick clothes that "goes well with their eyes", or wear jeans that "makes their butt look cute", or wear a hairstyle that "accentuates their jaw line and warrior skull" :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Men today are feminine as fuck, I want no part of this, never have, never will!

One thing that so many men (especially incels) express shame about IS SOMETHING MEN IN THE PAST DID AS A NORM (prostitution)

It was a normal thing for even Kings and Lords to fuck whores for payment, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL "MASCULINE STANDARD" FOR MASCULINITY

But fast forward to modern times, and all of a sudden its "cucked" because now its "masculine" to get sex because a woman thinks your jaw looks good and your butt looks cute in some jeans :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek: (WTF, are you guys REALLY falling for this shit?)

A lot of you guys have fallen for the trick, hook, line, and sinker



Here's the truth

MEN HAVE BECOME THE BITCHES, AND MOST OF YOU ARE IRONICALLY TRYING TO ADHERE TO THIS STANDARD

I just find it funny that what a lot of men (even on this forum) consider "manly" or a "feat of masculinity" IS LITERALLY THE MOST FEMININE THING EVER (self beautification)

Its just so funny when you think about it:
A man rapes a woman (takes what he wants by force) - "He's not a "real man", he should feel ashamed"

A man pays a woman for sex (strikes a deal/coerces) - "He's not a "real man", he should be ashamed"

A man attracts women via self beautification and/or being attractive (LITERAL FEMININE BEHAVIOR AND CRITERIA) - "What a man, I want to be like him"

JFL

Now today men are sending "dick pics" like how women send "nudes", they are taking these abs shots where their underwear is pulled down near their crotch like its a "tease pic", they are focusing on which angles to use, what makes their eyes look better, soon a lot of men will even be using makeup (yes, just watch and see)

Ironically its like the wool has been pulled over men's eyes (especially incels) and we act like this is normal for "masculinity"

THIS WAS NEVER NORMAL, THIS SHIT IS FEMININE AS FUCK

Men used to be judged on their:
Wealth
Combat ability
Bravery
Knowledge
Honor
Etc, etc, etc

NOW MEN ARE BITCHES JUST LIKE WOMEN :feelskek:

That's the greatest trick society ever pulled, because you're so busy trying to play the game to get a piece of the pie

So busy trying to "looksmax" to maybe get some scraps off of the table

That you don't realize the rules changed and you are basically NOT EVEN A MAN ANYMORE (MEN TODAY ARE PRETTY MUCH WOMBLESS WOMEN WITH PENISES)

MEN HAVE BECOME WOMEN


The lines are starting to blur, you can't really blame trans fuckers at this point, men don't even act like men anymore, because they aren't even being judged based on masculine criteria anymore, men have been "bitchified" :feelskek:

I FIND IT FUNNY HOW INCELS DON'T SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE FEMINIZATION OF MASCULINITY (MEN BEING JUDGED BASED ON LOOKS LIKE WOMEN) AND THE "SOYMALE" EPIDEMIC

THEY ARE DEFINITELY LINKED




The value system of masculinity has changed, its always been a norm (in the past) for fathers to take their sons to brothels (especially if you go way back), it was never something frowned up or seen as "shameful" or "not manly"

Men just allowed themselves over time to basically be feminized, and now men are the bitches who have to beautify themselves like women to "appear attractive", that was never a male thing before these times

Sorry, I'm not taking part in that game, tbh even if I woke up a 10/10 guy tomorrow I'm not doing that degrading shit, I will not liken myself to a woman and lower myself to the level of a female. I will take what I want in life by force or claim it through resources, but I will not pretty myself up to woo someone into giving me it

That is the epitome of femininity and submissiveness, and ironically that is the norm for males in this age

Having to pretty yourself up like a female to be judged on your body parts, that's supposed to be for women not men

Men today not only have to play their traditional role with all its shortcomings, they also now have to play the role of the female too JFL (its ridiculous, its sad but at the same time, its so funny :feelskek:)



So allow me to repeat myself and conclude this topic

The rest of you can keep falling for this bullshit and taking part in this blue pilled feminized standard of masculinity, but I won't take part

I'll gladly fuck whores with a smile :feelskek:, with no shame or regret (LIKE MEN DID BEFORE ME)

I will NOT liken myself to a female and obsess about "attention", "attraction", "desire", "validation", "love", etc (men in the past did not obsess over these things like men do today)

I WILL CLAIM WHAT I WANT IN LIFE THROUGH FORCE, COERCION OR RESOURCES

LIKE "REAL MEN" DID IN THE PAST

NOT BY ADHERING THIS BULLSHIT MODERN DAY FEMINIZED STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
The only flaw in your argumentation is that we are not vikings if we were like vikings we wouldnt be alive now. A few beta cucks had to offer something neolethic generations couldnt refuse. They procreated on the premise that they could deliver and during their peak their aspie brains cured perversions from nature like love. The race of aspies was won by some borderline inhumane geniuses and the average cuck could not hold on and now we find ourselves in an impossible revitalization of the viking era where hyper cucks act as omnipotent umberella
 
High IQ

Ironically good looks correlates with rape, since they have higher sex drives (Chads fuck even fat landwhales while average dudes may only fuck average girls), just like higher IQs. Genetic quality improves everything. The men in the past who did the raping were coincidentally exactly the good looking men. That ugly men were rapists is a myth.

Of course I'm aware that foids enjoyed it. See my thread "Women are designed to be raped".
 
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The only flaw in your argumentation is that we are not vikings if we were like vikings we wouldnt be alive now.
That is not a flaw, that literally has nothing to do with my argument, it was an example of a "masculine standard" of masculinity when it comes to gaining access to sex. I don't even know where you are going with this, I didn't even have to use vikings as an example

Not to long ago women didn't have rights, couldn't work, own property or vote, and there was no such thing as "marital rape"

What do you think was happening in marriages?

See, there's no reason to go back to the viking days for me to make an example, so saying "we are not vikings" has nothing to do with anything, that has nothing to do with my point

My point was that:
Men in the past have usually acquired women through these three methods:
1. Conquest - (Rape, taking over enemy lands and claiming their women, claiming a defeated kings queen, etc)
2. Diplomacy - (Arranged marriages, political deals, merging dynasties, ending wars, etc)
3. Payment - (Paying a father a "bride price" to wed his daughter, prostitution, buying a slave, etc)

The vikings were just an example of the Conquest method

The modern day man before women had rights are examples of the Diplomacy and Payment methods
 
Based.

Masculinity has nothing to do with being attractive to women.

Masculinity has nothing to do with seducing or having sex with women.

If anything, in the current era, having masculine virtue and honor might actually be inversely proportionate to your ability to "get laid."

In real patriarchal cultures, acquiring women is done by means of conquestmaxxing, arranged marriage maxing, or money/wealthmaxxing.

Putting yourself before the judgment of a women, as a man, is unbelievably cucked. In real patriarchal cultures, female choice matters little or not at all.
 
Putting yourself before the judgment of a women, as a man, is unbelievably cucked. In real patriarchal cultures, female choice matters little or not at all.
This, I find it weird how so many incels don't get this, modern day masculinity is feminized, so you are feminizing yourself when you attempt to adhere to it
 
I WILL CLAIM WHAT I WANT IN LIFE THROUGH FORCE, COERCION OR RESOURCES

LIKE "REAL MEN" DID IN THE PAST
:feelskek: :feelskek: JFL I just couldn't help but to laugh at this. Like seriously, what the fuck are you going to do? All this talk but no action nigboy.
 
A: We have to accept being cucks B: We have to marry 3rd world foid C:We will hire hookers and tell ourselves that we are happy

In your other thread you said something along the lines like as an individual you cannot do anything about the social norms. Employing what you say leaves us with option B or option C. It is not possible to abandon the idea of love and not doing A

And since most are just as racist as foids they would rather become cucks, i.e. cling on the idea of love and hoping for a long term sexual relationship with a white foid
 
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A: We have to accept being cucks B: We have to marry 3rd world foid C:We will hire hookers and tell ourselves that we are happy
Your entire argument is a strawman

Its you defining A as "being cucked", its you deciding that B is only "3rd world foids", its you asserting that men in the case of C would only be "telling themselves that they are happy" rather than simply actually being happy

Once again, your entire argument is a strawman

It is not possible to abandon the idea of love and not doing A
What you don't seem to get is that "love" doesn't exist, its all just physical attraction, you believe in the concept of "love" because you were raised to believe in it, and if raised in a different culture that didn't value such things, you would not care for it

Everything all comes down to physical attraction and chemicals in your brain
 
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Your entire argument is a strawman

Its you defining A as "being cucked", its you deciding that B is only "3rd world foid", its you asserting that men in the case of C would only be "telling themselves that they are happy" rather than actually being happy

Once again, your entire argument is a strawman


What you don't seem to get is that "love" doesn't exist, its all just physical attraction, you believe in the concept of "love" because you were raised to believe in it, and if raised in a different culture that didn't value such things, you would not care for it

Eherm..... *cough* *cough* first of all I am a fucking loser. Now that we have that out of the way: I am a pathetic deathnic subhuman. (Hope that this makes what I say more entertaining and gullible)

It is not me who has defined these options like that and not defining them like that is not blackpill.

I dont even know what a strawman is but in American political discussion I heard that term sometimes.

Maybe you are right and I hope so I am also a major coper, I just said what the blackpill says and models the thinking process of many of us

I will come back later with a more elaborate answer because I want to discuss this with you and find more contra arguments only by eliminating all contra arguments and doubts an opinions is validated

But what can I say so far: On option A: The classic hypergamy/betabux/branchswinging/divorcerape story backed with stats B: Online Dating stats, many could have sex if they are white with a minority they choose not to because they are racist or have some ideology hence the prejorative term 3rd world. C: This one is the only loophole that still exists but many incels are also here influenced by the media with the clishee of the ugly necessarily for ever unhappy bitter man, a serious problem however here is still the loneliness, sexually one would be satisfied and if one has male friends one can probably manage, there is no need for female companionship
 
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Moders laws are cucked.
 
well whatever masculinity is, i don't rly care about it and just wanna be happy
 
damn i was already writing up a thread just like this, but yeah this is nothing but the truth.. We are the bitches now. Men are not men anymore. I hate this gay generation...
 
well whatever masculinity is, i don't rly care about it and just wanna be happy
1. You being "happy" is dependent on which standard of masculinity you are adhering to and how well you live up to said standard

2. "Happiness" doesn't really exist, because its determined by your personal standards, there is no objective criteria for it, and that's what makes it dangerous, because chasing happiness means you at the mercy of "self deception". You will do things that are OBJECTIVELY to your detriment but because you "like it" or have some kind of emotional attachment that makes you "happy", you'll do it anyway

Right now there's a man in an open relationship that is genuinely "happy" because that's his fetish

Right now there's a rich man who is into "findom" (a "femdom" fetish where you literally just give women your money to spend) and he is genuinely "happy" because that's his fetish

Right now there is some poor farmer out there who struggles everyday to provide for his family but is genuinely "happy" just to have a family and be able to keep them alive

"Happiness" is an illusion, it doesn't exist, anybody can be happy under almost any circumstances, based on their beliefs, mindset, past experiences, personal standards, etc, "happiness" is something that is "too open to interpretation" to be trusted, there is no objective criteria for it, so it isn't logical to use your "happiness" as a way to accurately gauge the worth of a decision or path in life

This is why I pursue "physical satisfaction" and "wealth", not something vague like "happiness"
 
1. You being "happy" is dependent on which standard of masculinity you are adhering to and how well you live up to said standard

2. "Happiness" doesn't really exist, because its determined by your personal standards, there is no objective criteria for it, and that's what makes it dangerous, because chasing happiness means you at the mercy of "self deception". You will do things that are OBJECTIVELY to your detriment but because you "like it" or have some kind of emotional attachment that makes you "happy", you'll do it anyway

Right now there's a man in an open relationship that is genuinely "happy" because that's his fetish

Right now there's a rich man who is into "findom" (a "femdom" fetish where you literally just give women your money to spend) and he is genuinely "happy" because that's his fetish

Right now there is some poor farmer out there who struggles everyday to provide for his family but is genuinely "happy" just to have a family and be able to keep them alive

"Happiness" is an illusion, it doesn't exist, anybody can be happy under almost any circumstances, based on their beliefs, mindset, past experiences, personal standards, etc, "happiness" is something that is "too open to interpretation" to be trusted, there is no objective criteria for it, so it isn't logical to use your "happiness" as a way to accurately gauge the worth of a decision or path in life

This is why I pursue "physical satisfaction" and "wealth", not something vague like "happiness"
well said.
 
Let me just copy paste this onlooksmax
 
Let me just copy paste this onlooksmax
(Include this comment, when you link back to the site :feelskek:)

JFL watch those fuckers rage

"No bro, I'm a real man bro" (proceeds to talk about creams to "improve their complexion" and "reduce acne")

Oh yeah buds, totally masculine, definitely what warriors (peak masculinity) were thinking about in the past :feelskek:
 
(Include this comment, when you link back to the site :feelskek:)

JFL watch those fuckers rage

"No bro, I'm a real man bro" (proceeds to talk about creams to "improve their complexion" and "reduce acne")

Oh yeah buds, totally masculine, definitely what warriors (peak masculinity) were thinking about in the past :feelskek:
I've posted it with some minor editing. Basically removed all references to incel men. Its less easier for them to dismiss it that way
 
I updated my reply from before - you give arguments to be volcel i.e. even if one would have the opportunity one would regard it as lesser. Maybe you wrote a thread which goes in this direction and could give it to me here-also can you give me access to view your profile - I want to read your posts they are really good
 
"No bro, I'm a real man bro" (proceeds to talk about creams to "improve their complexion" and "reduce acne")

Oh yeah buds, totally masculine, definitely what warriors (peak masculinity) were thinking about in the past :feelskek:
LMAO :dab::feelsLSD:
 
True. The problem is that all of the above is illegal for western men excluding prostitution in some areas and indirect prostitute fucking (being a sugar daddy, having a golddigger gf etc). Paying for sex with foids isn't as gratifying either as owning a foid of your own that you can fuck consistently in your own home.
 
Doesn’t this also refute the whole cope of “skill” during sex or “motion of the ocean”? I mean if what you say is true, then the men of the past never worried about skill during sex and they just raped their women that they took and women adapted to it. So the only thing that women really would like is dominance during sex, not skill?

Skill = feminine

Dominance = masculine

???
 
I've posted it with some minor editing. Basically removed all references to incel men. Its less easier for them to dismiss it that way
What forum section on looksmax did you post it in?
 
you are funding their lifestyle by going to prostitutes, it's people like you that enable whoring around. without this kind of behavior, women would have to look in other directions to make a living for themselves, but with people like you around they'll never run out of backup options.

i otherwise agree with the post, i just think you going to prostitutes is idiotic, but that's just a personal opinion.
 
Doesn’t this also refute the whole cope of “skill” during sex or “motion of the ocean”?
This has nothing to do with that, this is about how men acquire mates for sex, not what they do during sex

I mean if what you say is true, then the men of the past never worried about skill during sex and they just raped their women that they took and women adapted to it. So the only thing that women really would like is dominance during sex, not skill?
1. Men for the most part really didn't if you look back in history, women's pleasure being the focus of a sexual interaction is rather new for our species. That's exactly why its so hard for women to even reach orgasm, us as men having nipples is as vestigial as the female orgasm.

2. You seem to be trying overly simplify biology in a weird way here

Around 50% of female rape victims have reported orgasms due to rape (dominance), but any average guy can also make a woman orgasm by directly stimulating her clitoris (skill)

Do straight men want to be penetrated anally, would they find that arousing?

NO

Would stimulating your prostate directly through anal penetration lead to an orgasm

YES

The human body is like a switchboard of functions, there is no "only thing X body would like", there are various ways to get the same response

You seem to be trying to argue that due to how women evolved they would ONLY be stimulated by dominance, that's not really how things work. I mean we have nipples even though we don't produce breast milk, and women orgasm even though it isn't even required for reproduction at all

Biology isn't this perfect system that removes unnecessary things, the "previous triggers" remain even as we evolve as a species

Skill = feminine

Dominance = masculine

???
JFL, since when has skill been a female trait? :feelskek:

When you move this argument outside of context (how males acquire mates) it doesn't make sense

Imagine if we were talking about how two bucks (male deer) battle it out with their antlers and the winner gets the female (deer), and that's the standard of masculinity for bucks when it comes to getting a mate

Then some guy jumps into the conversation talking about - "Ok, but what's the most masculine way for the buck mate" :feelskek:

That has nothing to do with anything

I'm really wondering where you are trying to go with this lol
 
Don't see it. What did you title the thread?
 
Of course it's the excessively narcy types (you can just tell from their avis tbh) that disagree or try to meme in response.
 
This has nothing to do with that, this is about how men acquire mates for sex, not what they do during sex


1. Men for the most part really didn't if you look back in history, women's pleasure being the focus of a sexual interaction is rather new for our species. That's exactly why its so hard for women to even reach orgasm, us as men having nipples is as vestigial as the female orgasm.

2. You seem to be trying overly simplify biology in a weird way here

Around 50% of female rape victims have reported orgasms due to rape (dominance), but any average guy can also make a woman orgasm by directly stimulating her clitoris (skill)

Do straight men want to be penetrated anally, would they find that arousing?

NO

Would stimulating your prostate directly through anal penetration lead to an orgasm

YES

The human body is like a switchboard of functions, there is no "only thing X body would like", there are various ways to get the same response

You seem to be trying to argue that due to how women evolved they would ONLY be stimulated by dominance, that's not really how things work. I mean we have nipples even though we don't produce breast milk, and women orgasm even though it isn't even required for reproduction at all

Biology isn't this perfect system that removes unnecessary things, the "previous triggers" remain even as we evolve as a species


JFL, since when has skill been a female trait? :feelskek:

When you move this argument outside of context (how males acquire mates) it doesn't make sense

Imagine if we were talking about how two bucks (male deer) battle it out with their antlers and the winner gets the female (deer), and that's the standard of masculinity for bucks when it comes to getting a mate

Then some guy jumps into the conversation talking about - "Ok, but what's the most masculine way for the buck mate" :feelskek:

That has nothing to do with anything

I'm really wondering where you are trying to go with this lol
I was just asking a question bro, don’t IQ mog me in front of everyone :feelsseriously:
 
Humans aren't the only species who seek females' validation and try to get their attraction, the same could be said about many birds (Victoria's rifle bird, peacocks) who simp for them by dancing, or by exposing their colorful tails, or in mammals: antlers, size of x, sometimes these traits aren't even good from the evolutionary pov (fisherman runaway theory)

Birds and other animal species where males court females are very different from humans and their primate relatives that have evolved to dominate and control females. Rape is rare among birds that can land on small branches where it's difficult for the male to overpower them, but it's very common among water-birds with webbed feet that can't easily hide in trees. Female peacocks can run and fly faster than the males which are encumbered by their elaborate plummage.

Romantic love and the belief that it's important to make a woman fall in love with you are modern notions that aren't even known in large parts of the world. In fact, the most common forms of marriage throughout history were arranged marriages, or marriages in which the man literally buys his wife from her father, and bride kidnapping is still seen as acceptable in many traditional cultures around the world. If marriage existed now as it had historically, women would have little to no say in who they marry.

"Romantic Love is a modern sentiment, less than a thousand years old. Conjugal Love is, indeed, often celebrated by Greek, Hebrew, and other ancient writers, but regarding Romantic—or pre-matrimonial—Love, they are silent. The Bible takes no account of it, and although Greek literature and mythology seem at first sight to abound in allusions to it, critical analysis shows that the reference never is to Love as we understand it." - Henry Theophilus Finck
Doesn’t this also refute the whole cope of “skill” during sex or “motion of the ocean”? I mean if what you say is true, then the men of the past never worried about skill during sex and they just raped their women that they took and women adapted to it. So the only thing that women really would like is dominance during sex, not skill?

Skill = feminine

Dominance = masculine
In the 1960s, there were still a lot of men who didn't know/care about clitoral stimulation and just fucked their wives in the missionary position. In spite of the fact that men today are obsessed with sexually satisfying their partners, women aren't any more likely to orgasm during sex than they were back then. The primary factor determining orgasm frequency in women is not their partners' skill but rather their physical attractiveness and masculinity.
 
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What you offer is cope. Our goal here is the same as of our forefathers, but the means and rules have changed. You can cope with your classic version of masculinity, but the world around you will keep moving according to it's laws.
 
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I've posted it with some minor editing. Basically removed all references to incel men. Its less easier for them to dismiss it that way
Look at these faggots on Looksmax calling it "Cope".
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What you offer is cope. Our goal here is the same as of our forefathers, but the means and rules have changed. You can cope with your classic version of masculinity, but the world around you will keep moving according to it's laws.
So you won’t consider paying for sex, despite most men already paying already if not more for months on end and not being guarantee it.


Do you want sex or validation quick question?
 
So you won’t consider paying for sex, despite most men already paying already if not more for months on end and not being guarantee it.


Do you want sex or validation quick question?
I want a romantic relationship and a familly.
Some mechanical "just get done with it" sex with a hooker is not the solution, despite what you try to cope yourselves with.
 
despite what you try to cope yourselves with.
Don’t project your beliefs onto me, I’m not like you. Of the few things I desire is financial independence and physical pleasure. If/when i can pay for sex and consistently I won’t be here anymore.
I want a romantic relationship and a familly.
So am going to assume you want mainly validation. Also why would you want to bring children into this world?
mechanical
I will take that as a compliment.
 
I keep seeing so many incels going on and on about "feeling desired", "attracting women", "validation", "love", etc and how not getting these things makes them "less masculine
I agree with your point on masculinity

When I say that I care about validation and being desired , what I mean is ,that I want power over women.

There is more you could do with/to a women who gets high just by looking at your face.

handling a women by force is almost as good, but has it's disadvantages

I don't like the idea that a hooker could refuse me if she wanted, It's a trade with conditions and a very limited experience.

I am going to fuck prostitutes anyway since that's the best I can get...

I probably need bluepilled delusional love to some extend in order to be happy
 
what I mean is ,that I want power over women.
Power over someone comes through force, coercion or payment, not through them "wanting you", because guess what, they can STOP "wanting you"

"Validation" and "Desire" means that you have a dependency, NOT POWER

If anything THEY HAVE POWER OVER YOU

Power over someone is something absolute that they don't get to choose or change their minds about

Again, you guys are going off of the new feminized masculinity

A woman wanting to fuck you because your jaw line "looks hot" or your "butt looks cute" is NOT "power" and is NOT "masculinity"

There is more you could do with/to a women who gets high just by looking at your face.
1. Once again, men in the past never cared about that shit, its just modern day men obsessing over it

2. The possibility for more of something to happen, doesn't mean its something you should want

You could actually have stronger orgasms if you directly stimulated your prostate through anal penetration

Are you going to do that now because its now possible to have more pleasure?

If you had a GF would you let her fuck you with a strapon because of that fact?

handling a women by force is almost as good, but has it's disadvantages
Only has disadvantages because of modern laws, were not really living in a "natural setting" anymore

I don't like the idea that a hooker could refuse me if she wanted, It's a trade with conditions and a very limited experience.
I don't know what kind of fucking hookers you are around lol

What do you even mean here:
Refuse to even accept payment from you (as in refuse to fuck you)?
OR
Refuse to perform the acts you already paid for?

If its the first one then just find another hooker, if its the last one that's your fault, stop kidding yourself about your role in that interaction, you are a predator, men's refusal to accept that is why they get "scammed" by women:

I probably need bluepilled delusional love to some extend in order to be happy
No such thing as "happiness", its an illusion, if you are desperate to "be happy" then you'll just end up accepting anything that comes your way in life, as desperation makes you lower your standards over time
"Happiness" doesn't really exist, because its determined by your personal standards, there is no objective criteria for it, and that's what makes it dangerous, because chasing happiness means you at the mercy of "self deception". You will do things that are OBJECTIVELY to your detriment but because you "like it" or have some kind of emotional attachment that makes you "happy", you'll do it anyway

Right now there's a man in an open relationship that is genuinely "happy" because that's his fetish

Right now there's a rich man who is into "findom" (a "femdom" fetish where you literally just give women your money to spend) and he is genuinely "happy" because that's his fetish

Right now there is some poor farmer out there who struggles everyday to provide for his family but is genuinely "happy" just to have a family and be able to keep them alive

"Happiness" is an illusion, it doesn't exist, anybody can be happy under almost any circumstances, based on their beliefs, mindset, past experiences, personal standards, etc, "happiness" is something that is "too open to interpretation" to be trusted, there is no objective criteria for it, so it isn't logical to use your "happiness" as a way to accurately gauge the worth of a decision or path in life

This is why I pursue "physical satisfaction" and "wealth", not something vague like "happiness"
 
Power over someone comes through force, coercion or payment, not through them "wanting you", because guess what, they can STOP "wanting you"

"Validation" and "Desire" means that you have a dependency, NOT POWER

If anything THEY HAVE POWER OVER YOU

Power over someone is something absolute that they don't get to choose or change their minds about

Again, you guys are going off of the new feminized masculinity

A woman wanting to fuck you because your jaw line "looks hot" or your "butt looks cute" is NOT "power" and is NOT "masculinity"

1. Once again, men in the past never cared about that shit, its just modern day men obsessing over it

2. The possibility for more of something to happen, doesn't mean its something you should want

You could actually have stronger orgasms if you directly stimulated your prostate through anal penetration

Are you going to do that now because its now possible to have more pleasure?

If you had a GF would you let her fuck you with a strapon because of that fact?

Only has disadvantages because of modern laws, were not really living in a "natural setting" anymore

I don't know what kind of fucking hookers you are around lol

What do you even mean here:
Refuse to even accept payment from you (as in refuse to fuck you)?
OR
Refuse to perform the acts you already paid for?

If its the first one then just find another hooker, if its the last one that's your fault, stop kidding yourself about your role in that interaction, you are a predator, men's refusal to accept that is why they get "scammed" by women:
No such thing as "happiness", its an illusion, if you are desperate to "be happy" then you'll just end up accepting anything that comes your way in life, as desperation makes you lower your standards over time
Yea you're right ,I am brainwashed.
 
Humans aren't the only species who seek females' validation and try to get their attraction, the same could be said about many birds (Victoria's rifle bird, peacocks) who simp for them by dancing, or by exposing their colorful tails,
I literally addressed this in the thread knowing full well some retard would come with this argument, if you aren't going to read properly, don't post:

LITERALLY IN BOLD BIG RED LETTERS (and you guys will make fun of me for doing this, but your response shows your low attention span, which is exactly why I do this)
WERE MAMMALS NOT BIRDS

Also I've seen a good few birds mating (well the small birds), and a lot of the times (for certain birds) the male flies around chasing the female until she tires out and then mounts her, doesn't seem so "consensual" to me. He doesn't do a dance or mating ritual, and these are some colorful birds too

No, before you say something retarded again, that "chase" isn't "bird foreplay", he attempts to mount when she perches on a branch or lands on the ground, she makes noise and throws him off and flies away, he persists and keeps going until she submits, its very violent.

Seen it in small birds, and even with medium sized birds (like Chickens, which I raised when I was younger). Also the males are very colourful and flamboyant in comparison to the females AND STILL THEY CHASE THE FEMALE AROUND AND TRY TO MOUNT HER FORCEFULLY :feelskek:

Have you ever seen chickens mate?, it definitely isn't consensual, despite the males having the colours you would expect of a species of birds that has to "attract females" they still "rape", but lets be clear, there is no such thing as "rape" in nature, its just how a lot of males reproduce, this is normal in nature

or in mammals: antlers, size of x, sometimes these traits aren't even good from the evolutionary pov (fisherman runaway theory) eg: 'The Irish elk finally went extinct when the antlers became so large that the animals could no longer hold up their heads
Wrong, the females don't choose males with bigger antlers, males with bigger antlers are more likely to kill their competition and the female merely submits to whichever male survives

You really think after a male just finished goring to death another male in front of a female she even has the option to reject him, she will submit to that male because its in her instinct to submit to him, but also its in her best interest to do so. Nothing stopping him from goring her too in a rage due to rejection

There is no such thing as "rape" in nature, and that's because the female submits OR ELSE

With pretty much every mammalian species the female submits to the dominant male OR ELSE








you are funding their lifestyle by going to prostitutes, it's people like you that enable whoring around. without this kind of behavior, women would have to look in other directions to make a living for themselves, but with people like you around they'll never run out of backup options.

i otherwise agree with the post, i just think you going to prostitutes is idiotic, but that's just a personal opinion.
A lot of you guys don't really have any common sense, or its more like you choose not to use it and instead have an emotional response to reality

You need to understand how a boycott works

You see it only works if you have the numbers required to impact the finances of the person/group/company/ you are boycotting

Else its a complete waste of time and you are just depriving yourself of a useful service for no logical reason at all

Even if every incel that paid for sex stopped today, it wouldn't make a dent in the sex market, because most of the men paying for sex are normies (as I have talked about in my thread):

Every normie guy I know IRL has paid for sex atleast once, its a lot more common than you think, but you guys spend too much time living in "meme world" rather than having conversations with other men In Real Life (IRL)


What you are asking is that incels boycott prostitutes for the sake of EGO & EMOTIONS, rather than for a LOGICAL reason like actually impacting the sex market in a significant way that "makes a difference" (causes some kind of social and/or economic change)

Sorry, I won't starve myself of sex for the sake of my ego like you, enjoy patting yourself on the back for "fighting the good fight" or whatever it is you tell yourself, but what you're doing is completely illogical

Ever heard of the quote - "Cutting off your nose to spite your face", well that's you










I want a romantic relationship and a familly.
HOW BADLY DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS?

You can actually get it, but like most incels you are unwilling to make any concessions or sacrifices in order to get it (but you won't get your dreamed up perfect version of it though, you have to be realistic)

If you truly want this, its going to take years to acquire the resources you need to get it, and what you get won't be your perfect ideal

You could Islamaxx for example (has always been on my list, still is actually)

But you are probably a Christian and unwilling to change your religion (despite your God being completely useless and his modern day followers no longer defending his name to their death, UNLIKE MUSLIMS WHO ARE OBJECTIVELY BETTER AS A RELIGION
(LETS BE HONEST, ISLAM IS OBJECTiVELY BETTER, THEY STILL STRICTLY FOLLOW THEIR DOCTRINE)


If you move to any of these first world Islamic countries like Qatar, you could very likely find a virgin wife (though she won't be the blonde white stacy so many of you like to obsess about)

But are you willing to make the sacrifices and concessions required to do something like this?

NO

You are not willing to move to another country, change your religion, learn a new language, etc, so do you really want this "dream" as badly as you think you do?

Guys like me are willing to do this just for sex alone, not even for this "dream" that you claim is the "real deal" and men like me are coping with "just sex" (so who is really the one coping here?)

That's the truth about most incels, you guys go on and on about "I want this ideal (wife and children), I don't want to pay for sex", and you guys fucking pretend like there aren't any paths that lead to that ideal, but there are many paths, they just aren't perfect, and you just aren't willing to do what it takes to get there

There are a lot of women waiting for you in 3rd world countries to marry them, of course you can't ever leave the country, but you could safely marry them there (depends on the laws, do your own research)

Are you willing to do what it takes to pursue this path

NO


The funny thing is:
I ACTUALLY STILL MAY CONSIDER ISLAMAXXING AFTER I'VED ESCORTCELLED FOR A FEW YEARS AND THOROUGHLY ENJOYED MYSELF

I still like the idea of having multiple wives (all virgins when I marry them of course). I've already downloaded a ton of stuff required to learn Arabic, I have no problem "converting" to Islam because I already don't believe in the religion I am "a part of" right now (Christianity). Christianity is a joke these days, no honest person can take it seriously, we have gay pastors for Gods sake, Islam would not allow that shit in their own country

One day I might post back to this forum talking about my wives and children, and idiots like yourself will still be saying - "Its over, there's nothing I can do" in your 50's rotting away

There's a lot of things you can do, but they all require money, so you better start wealthmaxxing, and you better be prepared to sacrifice some of your beliefs and desires to get it
 
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Ever heard of this quote:
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Well here's the thing, society has basically done this to men, and many men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) don't seem to be aware of this. Even though its right in their face and OUR ENTIRE HISTORY conveys this

Many men (incels included) don't seem to realize that they've been tricked, so they are still clinging to modern day blue pilled concepts

I find it funny how so many incels can give up other aspects of the blue pill (personality matters, just be confident, etc), but then there are some aspects they just can't let go of, and that's usually because its tied to their ego. Once you let go of your ego, none of these modern day feminist concepts will matter to you anymore (and yes, modern day "courtship norms" are due to feminism, they aren't "masculine in nature")



I keep seeing so many incels going on and on about "feeling desired", "attracting women", "validation", "love", etc and how not getting these things makes them "less masculine", but has any of these guys even asked themselves:

WHEN did these things become the new "standard of masculinity"? (you can't actually believe this was always the norm, that would be delusional)

Think about your ancestors for a second, who hundreds of years ago would rape and kill like its a normal part of everyday life

Do you think they obsessed about "being desired" or "female validation"? (honestly)

Or were women just something to be bought and/or claimed? (I think we all know what's the honest answer here)

Lets use the white race as an example (since we all know about the Vikings as they are very popular)

Do you think all the Vikings that were raiding towns and villages in England hundreds of years ago, gave a fuck whether or not the women they were raping "desired" them or thought they were "attractive enough"?

NO THEY DID NOT
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ADHERED TO A STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
THAT WAS "MASCULINE IN NATURE"



Men are no longer adhering to a legitimate standard of masculinity and society has most men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) convinced that a woman wanting to fuck you because you "look cute in your pics" is "masculinity", when its actually men adopting A FEMALE STANDARD OF MATE ACQUISITION

Having a sex partner choose you BECAUSE you are "attractive" to them, is a very feminine thing

WERE MAMMALS NOT BIRDS

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

Men in the past have usually acquired women through these three methods:
1. Conquest - (Rape, taking over enemy lands and claiming their women, claiming a defeated kings queen, etc)
2. Diplomacy - (Arranged marriages, political deals, merging dynasties, ending wars, etc)
3. Payment - (Paying a father a "bride price" to wed his daughter, prostitution, buying a slave, etc)


This is what "REAL MEN" did in the past

Not doll themselves up and pick clothes that "goes well with their eyes", or wear jeans that "makes their butt look cute", or wear a hairstyle that "accentuates their jaw line and warrior skull" :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Men today are feminine as fuck, I want no part of this, never have, never will!

One thing that so many men (especially incels) express shame about IS SOMETHING MEN IN THE PAST DID AS A NORM (prostitution)

It was a normal thing for even Kings and Lords to fuck whores for payment, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL "MASCULINE STANDARD" FOR MASCULINITY

But fast forward to modern times, and all of a sudden its "shameful", "emasculating" or "cucked", because now its "masculine" to get sex because a woman thinks your jaw looks good and your butt looks cute in some jeans :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek: (WTF, are you guys REALLY falling for this shit?)

A lot of you guys have fallen for the trick, hook, line, and sinker



Here's the truth

MEN HAVE BECOME THE BITCHES, AND MOST OF YOU ARE IRONICALLY TRYING TO ADHERE TO THIS STANDARD

I just find it funny that what a lot of men (even incels) consider "manly" or a "feat of masculinity" IS LITERALLY THE MOST FEMININE THING EVER (self beautification)

Its just so funny when you think about it:
A man rapes a woman (takes what he wants by force) - "He's not a "real man", he should feel ashamed"

A man pays a woman for sex (strikes a deal/coerces) - "He's not a "real man", he should be ashamed"

A man attracts women via self beautification and/or being attractive (LITERAL FEMININE BEHAVIOR AND CRITERIA) - "What a man, I want to be like him"

JFL

Now today men are sending "dick pics" like how women send "nudes", they are taking these abs shots where their underwear is pulled down near their crotch like its a "tease pic", they are focusing on which angles to use, what makes their eyes look better, soon a lot of men will even be using makeup (yes, just watch and see)

Ironically its like the wool has been pulled over men's eyes (especially incels) and we act like this is normal for "masculinity"

THIS WAS NEVER NORMAL, THIS SHIT IS FEMININE AS FUCK

Men used to be judged on their:
Wealth
Combat ability
Bravery
Knowledge
Honor
Etc, etc, etc

NOW MEN ARE BITCHES JUST LIKE WOMEN :feelskek:

That's the greatest trick society ever pulled, because you're so busy trying to play the game to get a piece of the pie

So busy trying to "looksmax" to maybe get some scraps off of the table

That you don't realize the rules changed and you are basically NOT EVEN A MAN ANYMORE (MEN TODAY ARE PRETTY MUCH WOMBLESS WOMEN WITH PENISES)

MEN HAVE BECOME WOMEN


The lines are starting to blur, you can't really blame those mentally ill "trans" whatevers at this point. Men don't even act like men anymore, because they aren't even being judged based on masculine criteria anymore, men have been "bitchified" :feelskek:

I FIND IT FUNNY HOW INCELS DON'T SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE FEMINIZATION OF MASCULINITY (MEN BEING JUDGED BASED ON LOOKS LIKE WOMEN) AND THE "SOYMALE" EPIDEMIC

THEY ARE DEFINITELY LINKED




The value system of masculinity has changed, its always been a norm (in the past) for fathers to take their sons to brothels (especially if you go way back), it was never something frowned up or seen as "shameful" or "not manly"

Men just allowed themselves over time to basically be feminized, and now men are the bitches who have to beautify themselves like women to "appear attractive", that was never a male thing before these times

Sorry, I'm not taking part in that game, tbh even if I woke up a 10/10 guy tomorrow I'm not doing that degrading shit, I will not liken myself to a woman and lower myself to the level of a female. I will take what I want in life by force or claim it through resources, but I will not pretty myself up to woo someone into giving me it

That is the epitome of femininity and submissiveness, and ironically that is the norm for males in this age

Having to pretty yourself up like a female to be judged on your body parts, that's supposed to be for women not men

Men today not only have to play their traditional role with all its shortcomings, they also now have to play the role of the female too JFL (its ridiculous, its sad but at the same time, its so funny :feelskek:)



So allow me to repeat myself and conclude this topic

The rest of you can keep falling for this bullshit and taking part in this blue pilled feminized standard of masculinity, but I won't take part

I will gladly fuck prostitutes & escorts with a smile :feelskek:, with no shame or regret (LIKE MEN DID BEFORE ME)

I will NOT liken myself to a female and obsess about "attention", "attraction", "desire", "validation", "love", etc (men in the past did not obsess over these things like men do today)

I WILL CLAIM WHAT I WANT IN LIFE THROUGH FORCE, COERCION OR RESOURCES

LIKE "REAL MEN" DID IN THE PAST

NOT BY ADHERING THIS BULLSHIT MODERN DAY FEMINIZED STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
With the power and resources at my disposal, I agree about claiming women without giving a shit about whether they agree or not. But the problem is, women have tampered with laws and fucked with the court system. Not meeting feminized standards of masculinity unfortunately means risking legal and reputational repercussions to get what you want, putting your livelihood in jeopardy and risking rotting in a cell with nothing but trannies and faggots. No woman currently living is worth giving up my entire future for empty primal satisfaction.

I don't ever want to get an escort either as I find it degrading, so seduction is basically the only alternative outside of getting so rich to the extent of just casually bypassing laws with a bank transfer.
 
With the power and resources at my disposal, I agree about claiming women without giving a shit about whether they agree or not. But the problem is, women have tampered with laws and fucked with the court system. Not meeting feminized standards of masculinity unfortunately means risking legal and reputational repercussions to get what you want
There's nothing stopping you from building your wealth over years, moving to a country in which the laws favor what you want, and exploiting that environment to your advantage

I don't know why so many of you guys are so attached to your countries or lives which you claim to hate so much

I don't ever want to get an escort either as I find it degrading
Once again, did your ancestors who were more masculine than you find paying for sex degrading?

If your answer is no, who the hell are you to try and assert that you are somehow "above them" and they have "degraded themselves"

It seems like you've missed the entire point of the thread

Guys like you pick and choose which blue pilled beliefs you let go of and then some you choose to hold on to

Believing that a woman has to validate your worth as a man rather than your own accomplishments, and women have to validate the act of sex itself (when men are the physically dominant sex), is just as blue pilled as believing that "personality matters" or "you just have to be confident"

You are really just trying to pick and choose which blue pills you throw out and which ones you keep, and in my book you aren't really black pilled until you throw them all out and merely focus on things that are objectively beneficial to you

Ego and emotions should not be part of the equation when it comes to your decision making
 
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Please have some more soylent.
 

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