Blackpill [Hard To Swallow Edition] The Greatest Trick Society Ever Pulled Was Convincing Men To Adhere To A Feminized Standard Of Masculinity & Be Proud Of It

[Advorsor]

Please have some more soylent.

He has a few things right, but forgets the context and time period of the definitions thus voiding his claims. That is just how he deals with the hand he is dealt with.

 

[Deleted member 35239]

There's nothing stopping you from building your wealth over years, moving to a country in which the laws favor what you want, and exploiting that environment to your advantage

I don't know why so many of you guys are so attached to your countries or lives which you claim to hate so much


Once again, did your ancestors who were more masculine than you find paying for sex degrading?

If your answer is no, who the hell are you to try and assert that you are somehow "above them" and they have "degraded themselves"

It seems like you've missed the entire point of the thread

Guys like you pick and choose which blue pilled beliefs you let go of and then some you choose to hold on to

Believing that a woman has to validate your worth as a man rather than your own accomplishments, and women have to validate the act of sex itself (when men are the physically dominant sex), is just as blue pilled as believing that "personality matters" or "you just have to be confident"

You are really just trying to pick and choose which blue pills you throw out and which ones you keep, and in my book you aren't really black pilled until you throw them all out and merely focus on things that are objectively beneficial to you

Ego and emotions should not be part of the equation when it comes to your decision making

1) I agree and I'll do something similar at some point.

2) Not attached to my country, and I don't hate it or my life. But I want both to change. In regards to the country, it provides a measure of security and opportunity not available in most situations in backwater countries and that's useful for my future goals.

3) More masculine then me? Perhaps on a superficial level. Although I admire them to an extent, I don't entirely agree with their way of life. I don't want to just fuck everything I see just cause. It's demeaning, because by engaging in that vulnerable, intimate act with someone who isn't compatible with my standards I sink to their level and compromise my integrity.

By reserving myself for curated flowers instead of backyard weeds I'm asserting my will, my masculinity, over my desire to wastefully procreate and pleasure myself.

4) No woman needs to validate my worth. My accomplishments and how close I am to who I want to become validates me above all else.

5) The whole purpose of intelligence in nature is service to the ego. My intelligence and logical processes serve me. However my emotions are pulled out of those processes in order not to impede the desired result. But it nonetheless is in subservience to the ego.

And my ego says escorts aren't worthy of my dick.

 

[BlkPillPres]

He has a few things right, but forgets the context and time period of the definitions thus voiding his claims. That is just how he deals with the hand he is dealt with.

You do realize that your argument amounts to "Its the current year" right?

Which is a meme we often use to make fun of blue pilled leftists


You seem to be missing the point of the thread

Saying "were in a different time period" is exactly my point. Masculinity was feminized over time, but if you can admit to yourself that modern day masculinity is actually feminized and caters to women, then there's no reason for you to adhere to it, or stress yourself out trying to adhere to it, when those standards were designed around feminine criteria

There are other countries on the planet with other cultures, laws and rules that allows any of us to adhere to the original standard of masculinity

There is nothing holding you back in the country you reside in other than yourself. I don't know why so many of you are so attached to a country and culture that clearly hates you, to me that's like having Stockholm Syndrome lol

A lot of you speak like you "can't leave your life behind", but honestly you don't have a life to begin with, not really

To me it just makes no sense to remain in America or which ever western hell hole you live in right now (or whatever country that is corrupted by feminism that you reside in), when there are other countries that are more suited to catering to unattractive males and their "way of life"


Of course one has to focus on building the resources required to pursue these paths in life, which is why wealthmaxxing will always be the thing I place at the top of the list for unattractive men. If you think you are going to have average income or be a NEET, and have an enjoyable life as an unattractive man, you are an idiot, and the older you get the shittier things are going to get too

1) I agree and I'll do something similar at some point.

2) Not attached to my country, and I don't hate it or my life. But I want both to change. In regards to the country, it provides a measure of security and opportunity not available in most situations in backwater countries and that's useful for my future goals.

3) More masculine then me? Perhaps on a superficial level. Although I admire them to an extent, I don't entirely agree with their way of life. I don't want to just fuck everything I see just cause. It's demeaning, because by engaging in that vulnerable, intimate act with someone who isn't compatible with my standards I sink to their level and compromise my integrity.

By reserving myself for curated flowers instead of backyard weeds I'm asserting my will, my masculinity, over my desire to wastefully procreate and pleasure myself.

4) No woman needs to validate my worth. My accomplishments and how close I am to who I want to become validates me above all else.

5) The whole purpose of intelligence in nature is service to the ego. My intelligence and logical processes serve me. However my emotions are pulled out of those processes in order not to impede the desired result. But it nonetheless is in subservience to the ego.

And my ego says escorts aren't worthy of my dick.

Holy shit I just realized who I was talking to:

if I'm willing to show myself to a woman and copulate with her it isn't simply out of a desire to satisfy a primal urge or have fun. It's a privilege I would grant to a woman I feel is worthy of it, and offers themselves to me despite having many other options.

Stop changing your your avatar, I didn't even remember you till that "sink to their level" part, then I really looked at your username and remembered (my goodness you are delusional, its your defining trait)

Its pointless trying to argue with a guy like you, you actually believe that a woman is being privileged if you "grant her" the chance to fuck you, you are full on delusion, there are certain levels of delusion even I won't bother to argue against

You are on par with @FrothySolutions

 

[Deleted member 35239]

You do realize that your argument amounts to "Its the current year" right?

Which is a meme we often use to make fun of blue pilled leftists


You seem to be missing the point of the thread

Saying "were in a different time period" is exactly my point. Masculinity was feminized over time, but if you can admit to yourself that modern day masculinity is actually feminized and caters to women, then there's no reason for you to adhere to it, or stress yourself out trying to adhere to it, when those standards were designed around feminine criteria

There are other countries on the planet with other cultures, laws and rules that allows any of us to adhere to the original standard of masculinity

There is nothing holding you back in the country you reside in other than yourself. I don't know why so many of you are so attached to a country and culture that clearly hates you, to me that's like having Stockholm Syndrome lol

A lot of you speak like you "can't leave your life behind", but honestly you don't have a life to begin with, not really

To me it just makes no sense to remain in America or which ever western hell hole you live in right now (or whatever country that is corrupted by feminism that you reside in), when there are other countries that are more suited to catering to unattractive males and their "way of life"


Of course one has to focus on building the resources required to pursue these paths in life, which is why wealthmaxxing will always be the thing I place at the top of the list for unattractive men. If you think you are going to have average income or be a NEET, and have an enjoyable life as an unattractive man, you are an idiot, and the older you get the shittier things are going to get too






Holy shit I just realized who I was talking to:



Stop changing your your avatar, I didn't even remember you till that "sink to their level" part, then I really looked at your username and remembered (my goodness you are delusional, its your defining trait)

Its pointless trying to argue with a guy like you, you actually believe that a woman is being privileged if you "grant her" the chance to fuck you, you are full on delusion, there are certain levels of delusion even I won't bother to argue against

You are on par with @FrothySolutions

I don't think you know what delusional means. I've already explained how perceived social value is completely irrelevant. Maybe it's because you think just because someone's an incel they can't have standards?

Agree with wealthmaxxing though.

 

[Advorsor]

You do realize that your argument amounts to "Its the current year" right?

Which is a meme we often use to make fun of blue pilled leftists

My take was just your arguments were great, but have some kinks by different circumstances, mostly trying to take instinctual habits and trying to reenact them without any kind of modernization. You have the same problem with Islam copers, they also try to stick to their heavily outdated ways of living, living in the fear of the new ideas. Just take a look at Taliban or ISIS and what they do, that is the Islam.

Saying "were in a different time period" is exactly my point. Masculinity was feminized over time, but if you can admit to yourself that modern day masculinity is actually feminized and caters to women, then there's no reason for you to adhere to it, or stress yourself out trying to adhere to it, when those standards were designed around feminine criteria

I agree with you on this part, I'm not adhering to the societal notion of masculinity, it caters to women hard. Even in my days I wasn't catering to the society on most parts because it was just too controlling and boring.

 

[Neggr]

High Iq post should be in sewers where all high iq cel are based

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

Ever heard of this quote:
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Well here's the thing, society has basically done this to men, and many men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) don't seem to be aware of this. Even though its right in their face and OUR ENTIRE HISTORY conveys this

Many men (incels included) don't seem to realize that they've been tricked, so they are still clinging to modern day blue pilled concepts

I find it funny how so many incels can give up other aspects of the blue pill (personality matters, just be confident, etc), but then there are some aspects they just can't let go of, and that's usually because its tied to their ego. Once you let go of your ego, none of these modern day feminist concepts will matter to you anymore (and yes, modern day "courtship norms" are due to feminism, they aren't "masculine in nature")



I keep seeing so many incels going on and on about "feeling desired", "attracting women", "validation", "love", etc and how not getting these things makes them "less masculine", but has any of these guys even asked themselves:

WHEN did these things become the new "standard of masculinity"? (you can't actually believe this was always the norm, that would be delusional)

Think about your ancestors for a second, who hundreds of years ago would rape and kill like its a normal part of everyday life

Do you think they obsessed about "being desired" or "female validation"? (honestly)

Or were women just something to be bought and/or claimed? (I think we all know what's the honest answer here)

Lets use the white race as an example (since we all know about the Vikings as they are very popular)

Do you think all the Vikings that were raiding towns and villages in England hundreds of years ago, gave a fuck whether or not the women they were raping "desired" them or thought they were "attractive enough"?

NO THEY DID NOT
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ADHERED TO A STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
THAT WAS "MASCULINE IN NATURE"



Men are no longer adhering to a legitimate standard of masculinity and society has most men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) convinced that a woman wanting to fuck you because you "look cute in your pics" is "masculinity", when its actually men adopting A FEMALE STANDARD OF MATE ACQUISITION

Having a sex partner choose you BECAUSE you are "attractive" to them, is a very feminine thing

WERE MAMMALS NOT BIRDS

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

Men in the past have usually acquired women through these three methods:
1. Conquest - (Rape, taking over enemy lands and claiming their women, claiming a defeated kings queen, etc)
2. Diplomacy - (Arranged marriages, political deals, merging dynasties, ending wars, etc)
3. Payment - (Paying a father a "bride price" to wed his daughter, prostitution, buying a slave, etc)

This is what "REAL MEN" did in the past

Not doll themselves up and pick clothes that "goes well with their eyes", or wear jeans that "makes their butt look cute", or wear a hairstyle that "accentuates their jaw line and warrior skull"

Men today are feminine as fuck, I want no part of this, never have, never will!

One thing that so many men (especially incels) express shame about IS SOMETHING MEN IN THE PAST DID AS A NORM (prostitution)

It was a normal thing for even Kings and Lords to fuck whores for payment, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL "MASCULINE STANDARD" FOR MASCULINITY

But fast forward to modern times, and all of a sudden its "shameful", "emasculating" or "cucked", because now its "masculine" to get sex because a woman thinks your jaw looks good and your butt looks cute in some jeans (WTF, are you guys REALLY falling for this shit?)

A lot of you guys have fallen for the trick, hook, line, and sinker



Here's the truth

MEN HAVE BECOME THE BITCHES, AND MOST OF YOU ARE IRONICALLY TRYING TO ADHERE TO THIS STANDARD

I just find it funny that what a lot of men (even incels) consider "manly" or a "feat of masculinity" IS LITERALLY THE MOST FEMININE THING EVER (self beautification)

Its just so funny when you think about it:
A man rapes a woman (takes what he wants by force) - "He's not a "real man", he should feel ashamed"

A man pays a woman for sex (strikes a deal/coerces) - "He's not a "real man", he should be ashamed"

A man attracts women via self beautification and/or being attractive (LITERAL FEMININE BEHAVIOR AND CRITERIA) - "What a man, I want to be like him"

JFL

Now today men are sending "dick pics" like how women send "nudes", they are taking these abs shots where their underwear is pulled down near their crotch like its a "tease pic", they are focusing on which angles to use, what makes their eyes look better, soon a lot of men will even be using makeup (yes, just watch and see)

Ironically its like the wool has been pulled over men's eyes (especially incels) and we act like this is normal for "masculinity"

THIS WAS NEVER NORMAL, THIS SHIT IS FEMININE AS FUCK

Men used to be judged on their:
Wealth
Combat ability
Bravery
Knowledge
Honor
Etc, etc, etc

NOW MEN ARE BITCHES JUST LIKE WOMEN

That's the greatest trick society ever pulled, because you're so busy trying to play the game to get a piece of the pie

So busy trying to "looksmax" to maybe get some scraps off of the table

That you don't realize the rules changed and you are basically NOT EVEN A MAN ANYMORE (MEN TODAY ARE PRETTY MUCH WOMBLESS WOMEN WITH PENISES)

MEN HAVE BECOME WOMEN

The lines are starting to blur, you can't really blame those mentally ill "trans" whatevers at this point. Men don't even act like men anymore, because they aren't even being judged based on masculine criteria anymore, men have been "bitchified"

I FIND IT FUNNY HOW INCELS DON'T SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE FEMINIZATION OF MASCULINITY (MEN BEING JUDGED BASED ON LOOKS LIKE WOMEN) AND THE "SOYMALE" EPIDEMIC

THEY ARE DEFINITELY LINKED



The value system of masculinity has changed, its always been a norm (in the past) for fathers to take their sons to brothels (especially if you go way back), it was never something frowned up or seen as "shameful" or "not manly"

Men just allowed themselves over time to basically be feminized, and now men are the bitches who have to beautify themselves like women to "appear attractive", that was never a male thing before these times

Sorry, I'm not taking part in that game, tbh even if I woke up a 10/10 guy tomorrow I'm not doing that degrading shit, I will not liken myself to a woman and lower myself to the level of a female. I will take what I want in life by force or claim it through resources, but I will not pretty myself up to woo someone into giving me it

That is the epitome of femininity and submissiveness, and ironically that is the norm for males in this age

Having to pretty yourself up like a female to be judged on your body parts, that's supposed to be for women not men

Men today not only have to play their traditional role with all its shortcomings, they also now have to play the role of the female too JFL (its ridiculous, its sad but at the same time, its so funny )



So allow me to repeat myself and conclude this topic

The rest of you can keep falling for this bullshit and taking part in this blue pilled feminized standard of masculinity, but I won't take part

I will gladly fuck prostitutes & escorts with a smile , with no shame or regret (LIKE MEN DID BEFORE ME)

I will NOT liken myself to a female and obsess about "attention", "attraction", "desire", "validation", "love", etc (men in the past did not obsess over these things like men do today)

I WILL CLAIM WHAT I WANT IN LIFE THROUGH FORCE, COERCION OR RESOURCES

LIKE "REAL MEN" DID IN THE PAST

NOT BY ADHERING THIS BULLSHIT MODERN DAY FEMINIZED STANDARD OF MASCULINITY

to be fair this is your highest iq post and doesnt actually have a myriad of logical contradictions just to prove your point.

because for once your original point was actually sound

qudos

now every post after this the same please

 

[52baldcurryjanitor]

the whole dick pics

Ever heard of this quote:
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Well here's the thing, society has basically done this to men, and many men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) don't seem to be aware of this. Even though its right in their face and OUR ENTIRE HISTORY conveys this

Many men (incels included) don't seem to realize that they've been tricked, so they are still clinging to modern day blue pilled concepts

I find it funny how so many incels can give up other aspects of the blue pill (personality matters, just be confident, etc), but then there are some aspects they just can't let go of, and that's usually because its tied to their ego. Once you let go of your ego, none of these modern day feminist concepts will matter to you anymore (and yes, modern day "courtship norms" are due to feminism, they aren't "masculine in nature")



I keep seeing so many incels going on and on about "feeling desired", "attracting women", "validation", "love", etc and how not getting these things makes them "less masculine", but has any of these guys even asked themselves:

WHEN did these things become the new "standard of masculinity"? (you can't actually believe this was always the norm, that would be delusional)

Think about your ancestors for a second, who hundreds of years ago would rape and kill like its a normal part of everyday life

Do you think they obsessed about "being desired" or "female validation"? (honestly)

Or were women just something to be bought and/or claimed? (I think we all know what's the honest answer here)

Lets use the white race as an example (since we all know about the Vikings as they are very popular)

Do you think all the Vikings that were raiding towns and villages in England hundreds of years ago, gave a fuck whether or not the women they were raping "desired" them or thought they were "attractive enough"?

NO THEY DID NOT
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ADHERED TO A STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
THAT WAS "MASCULINE IN NATURE"



Men are no longer adhering to a legitimate standard of masculinity and society has most men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) convinced that a woman wanting to fuck you because you "look cute in your pics" is "masculinity", when its actually men adopting A FEMALE STANDARD OF MATE ACQUISITION

Having a sex partner choose you BECAUSE you are "attractive" to them, is a very feminine thing

WERE MAMMALS NOT BIRDS

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

Men in the past have usually acquired women through these three methods:
1. Conquest - (Rape, taking over enemy lands and claiming their women, claiming a defeated kings queen, etc)
2. Diplomacy - (Arranged marriages, political deals, merging dynasties, ending wars, etc)
3. Payment - (Paying a father a "bride price" to wed his daughter, prostitution, buying a slave, etc)

This is what "REAL MEN" did in the past

Not doll themselves up and pick clothes that "goes well with their eyes", or wear jeans that "makes their butt look cute", or wear a hairstyle that "accentuates their jaw line and warrior skull"

Men today are feminine as fuck, I want no part of this, never have, never will!

One thing that so many men (especially incels) express shame about IS SOMETHING MEN IN THE PAST DID AS A NORM (prostitution)

It was a normal thing for even Kings and Lords to fuck whores for payment, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL "MASCULINE STANDARD" FOR MASCULINITY

But fast forward to modern times, and all of a sudden its "shameful", "emasculating" or "cucked", because now its "masculine" to get sex because a woman thinks your jaw looks good and your butt looks cute in some jeans (WTF, are you guys REALLY falling for this shit?)

A lot of you guys have fallen for the trick, hook, line, and sinker



Here's the truth

MEN HAVE BECOME THE BITCHES, AND MOST OF YOU ARE IRONICALLY TRYING TO ADHERE TO THIS STANDARD

I just find it funny that what a lot of men (even incels) consider "manly" or a "feat of masculinity" IS LITERALLY THE MOST FEMININE THING EVER (self beautification)

Its just so funny when you think about it:
A man rapes a woman (takes what he wants by force) - "He's not a "real man", he should feel ashamed"

A man pays a woman for sex (strikes a deal/coerces) - "He's not a "real man", he should be ashamed"

A man attracts women via self beautification and/or being attractive (LITERAL FEMININE BEHAVIOR AND CRITERIA) - "What a man, I want to be like him"

JFL

Now today men are sending "dick pics" like how women send "nudes", they are taking these abs shots where their underwear is pulled down near their crotch like its a "tease pic", they are focusing on which angles to use, what makes their eyes look better, soon a lot of men will even be using makeup (yes, just watch and see)

Ironically its like the wool has been pulled over men's eyes (especially incels) and we act like this is normal for "masculinity"

THIS WAS NEVER NORMAL, THIS SHIT IS FEMININE AS FUCK

Men used to be judged on their:
Wealth
Combat ability
Bravery
Knowledge
Honor
Etc, etc, etc

NOW MEN ARE BITCHES JUST LIKE WOMEN

That's the greatest trick society ever pulled, because you're so busy trying to play the game to get a piece of the pie

So busy trying to "looksmax" to maybe get some scraps off of the table

That you don't realize the rules changed and you are basically NOT EVEN A MAN ANYMORE (MEN TODAY ARE PRETTY MUCH WOMBLESS WOMEN WITH PENISES)

MEN HAVE BECOME WOMEN

The lines are starting to blur, you can't really blame those mentally ill "trans" whatevers at this point. Men don't even act like men anymore, because they aren't even being judged based on masculine criteria anymore, men have been "bitchified"

I FIND IT FUNNY HOW INCELS DON'T SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE FEMINIZATION OF MASCULINITY (MEN BEING JUDGED BASED ON LOOKS LIKE WOMEN) AND THE "SOYMALE" EPIDEMIC

THEY ARE DEFINITELY LINKED



The value system of masculinity has changed, its always been a norm (in the past) for fathers to take their sons to brothels (especially if you go way back), it was never something frowned up or seen as "shameful" or "not manly"

Men just allowed themselves over time to basically be feminized, and now men are the bitches who have to beautify themselves like women to "appear attractive", that was never a male thing before these times

Sorry, I'm not taking part in that game, tbh even if I woke up a 10/10 guy tomorrow I'm not doing that degrading shit, I will not liken myself to a woman and lower myself to the level of a female. I will take what I want in life by force or claim it through resources, but I will not pretty myself up to woo someone into giving me it

That is the epitome of femininity and submissiveness, and ironically that is the norm for males in this age

Having to pretty yourself up like a female to be judged on your body parts, that's supposed to be for women not men

Men today not only have to play their traditional role with all its shortcomings, they also now have to play the role of the female too JFL (its ridiculous, its sad but at the same time, its so funny )



So allow me to repeat myself and conclude this topic

The rest of you can keep falling for this bullshit and taking part in this blue pilled feminized standard of masculinity, but I won't take part

I will gladly fuck prostitutes & escorts with a smile , with no shame or regret (LIKE MEN DID BEFORE ME)

I will NOT liken myself to a female and obsess about "attention", "attraction", "desire", "validation", "love", etc (men in the past did not obsess over these things like men do today)

I WILL CLAIM WHAT I WANT IN LIFE THROUGH FORCE, COERCION OR RESOURCES

LIKE "REAL MEN" DID IN THE PAST

NOT BY ADHERING THIS BULLSHIT MODERN DAY FEMINIZED STANDARD OF MASCULINITY

the whole dicks pics thing works for homosexual men trying to attract other men. Tinder is based of grindr (a homosexual dating app) incelmatics talks about it in the documentary I showed you.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt8JMQUoKto
Things like jawline/dick pics/angles are shit gay men do to attract other gay men. For straight men it does not work and is cringe as fuck! Go to a hispanic neighborhood do you see hispanic guys sending dick picks/using homosexual based dating apps? FUCK NO! you see these short/fat Indigenous/Meztisto guys with no jawline with women. They tend to have have cool muscle cars, street race, play cool music, or worst case scenario join a gang to impress women. But a lot of them simply meet women via familial arrangements or through their various social circles/mutual friends. (ie church/school/work etc.)

-many of us should try this and copy what hispanics do. Frankly the hispanic method of attracting women is more masculine and has better chances. (NOT advising you to join gangs/streetrace just saying try to get off of this site and broaden your social circle to increase your chances of meeting women even if slim. obviously blackpill still applies but beats LDAR).

 

[HiroshakiCel]

Ever heard of this quote:
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Well here's the thing, society has basically done this to men, and many men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) don't seem to be aware of this. Even though its right in their face and OUR ENTIRE HISTORY conveys this

Many men (incels included) don't seem to realize that they've been tricked, so they are still clinging to modern day blue pilled concepts

I find it funny how so many incels can give up other aspects of the blue pill (personality matters, just be confident, etc), but then there are some aspects they just can't let go of, and that's usually because its tied to their ego. Once you let go of your ego, none of these modern day feminist concepts will matter to you anymore (and yes, modern day "courtship norms" are due to feminism, they aren't "masculine in nature")



I keep seeing so many incels going on and on about "feeling desired", "attracting women", "validation", "love", etc and how not getting these things makes them "less masculine", but has any of these guys even asked themselves:

WHEN did these things become the new "standard of masculinity"? (you can't actually believe this was always the norm, that would be delusional)

Think about your ancestors for a second, who hundreds of years ago would rape and kill like its a normal part of everyday life

Do you think they obsessed about "being desired" or "female validation"? (honestly)

Or were women just something to be bought and/or claimed? (I think we all know what's the honest answer here)

Lets use the white race as an example (since we all know about the Vikings as they are very popular)

Do you think all the Vikings that were raiding towns and villages in England hundreds of years ago, gave a fuck whether or not the women they were raping "desired" them or thought they were "attractive enough"?

NO THEY DID NOT
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ADHERED TO A STANDARD OF MASCULINITY
THAT WAS "MASCULINE IN NATURE"



Men are no longer adhering to a legitimate standard of masculinity and society has most men (ironically even so called "black pilled" incels) convinced that a woman wanting to fuck you because you "look cute in your pics" is "masculinity", when its actually men adopting A FEMALE STANDARD OF MATE ACQUISITION

Having a sex partner choose you BECAUSE you are "attractive" to them, is a very feminine thing

WERE MAMMALS NOT BIRDS

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

Men in the past have usually acquired women through these three methods:
1. Conquest - (Rape, taking over enemy lands and claiming their women, claiming a defeated kings queen, etc)
2. Diplomacy - (Arranged marriages, political deals, merging dynasties, ending wars, etc)
3. Payment - (Paying a father a "bride price" to wed his daughter, prostitution, buying a slave, etc)

This is what "REAL MEN" did in the past

Not doll themselves up and pick clothes that "goes well with their eyes", or wear jeans that "makes their butt look cute", or wear a hairstyle that "accentuates their jaw line and warrior skull"

Men today are feminine as fuck, I want no part of this, never have, never will!

One thing that so many men (especially incels) express shame about IS SOMETHING MEN IN THE PAST DID AS A NORM (prostitution)

It was a normal thing for even Kings and Lords to fuck whores for payment, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL "MASCULINE STANDARD" FOR MASCULINITY

But fast forward to modern times, and all of a sudden its "shameful", "emasculating" or "cucked", because now its "masculine" to get sex because a woman thinks your jaw looks good and your butt looks cute in some jeans (WTF, are you guys REALLY falling for this shit?)

A lot of you guys have fallen for the trick, hook, line, and sinker



Here's the truth

MEN HAVE BECOME THE BITCHES, AND MOST OF YOU ARE IRONICALLY TRYING TO ADHERE TO THIS STANDARD

I just find it funny that what a lot of men (even incels) consider "manly" or a "feat of masculinity" IS LITERALLY THE MOST FEMININE THING EVER (self beautification)

Its just so funny when you think about it:
A man rapes a woman (takes what he wants by force) - "He's not a "real man", he should feel ashamed"

A man pays a woman for sex (strikes a deal/coerces) - "He's not a "real man", he should be ashamed"

A man attracts women via self beautification and/or being attractive (LITERAL FEMININE BEHAVIOR AND CRITERIA) - "What a man, I want to be like him"

JFL

Now today men are sending "dick pics" like how women send "nudes", they are taking these abs shots where their underwear is pulled down near their crotch like its a "tease pic", they are focusing on which angles to use, what makes their eyes look better, soon a lot of men will even be using makeup (yes, just watch and see)

Ironically its like the wool has been pulled over men's eyes (especially incels) and we act like this is normal for "masculinity"

THIS WAS NEVER NORMAL, THIS SHIT IS FEMININE AS FUCK

Men used to be judged on their:
Wealth
Combat ability
Bravery
Knowledge
Honor
Etc, etc, etc

NOW MEN ARE BITCHES JUST LIKE WOMEN

That's the greatest trick society ever pulled, because you're so busy trying to play the game to get a piece of the pie

So busy trying to "looksmax" to maybe get some scraps off of the table

That you don't realize the rules changed and you are basically NOT EVEN A MAN ANYMORE (MEN TODAY ARE PRETTY MUCH WOMBLESS WOMEN WITH PENISES)

MEN HAVE BECOME WOMEN

The lines are starting to blur, you can't really blame those mentally ill "trans" whatevers at this point. Men don't even act like men anymore, because they aren't even being judged based on masculine criteria anymore, men have been "bitchified"

I FIND IT FUNNY HOW INCELS DON'T SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE FEMINIZATION OF MASCULINITY (MEN BEING JUDGED BASED ON LOOKS LIKE WOMEN) AND THE "SOYMALE" EPIDEMIC

THEY ARE DEFINITELY LINKED



The value system of masculinity has changed, its always been a norm (in the past) for fathers to take their sons to brothels (especially if you go way back), it was never something frowned up or seen as "shameful" or "not manly"

Men just allowed themselves over time to basically be feminized, and now men are the bitches who have to beautify themselves like women to "appear attractive", that was never a male thing before these times

Sorry, I'm not taking part in that game, tbh even if I woke up a 10/10 guy tomorrow I'm not doing that degrading shit, I will not liken myself to a woman and lower myself to the level of a female. I will take what I want in life by force or claim it through resources, but I will not pretty myself up to woo someone into giving me it

That is the epitome of femininity and submissiveness, and ironically that is the norm for males in this age

Having to pretty yourself up like a female to be judged on your body parts, that's supposed to be for women not men

Men today not only have to play their traditional role with all its shortcomings, they also now have to play the role of the female too JFL (its ridiculous, its sad but at the same time, its so funny )



So allow me to repeat myself and conclude this topic

The rest of you can keep falling for this bullshit and taking part in this blue pilled feminized standard of masculinity, but I won't take part

I will gladly fuck prostitutes & escorts with a smile , with no shame or regret (LIKE MEN DID BEFORE ME)

I will NOT liken myself to a female and obsess about "attention", "attraction", "desire", "validation", "love", etc (men in the past did not obsess over these things like men do today)

I WILL CLAIM WHAT I WANT IN LIFE THROUGH FORCE, COERCION OR RESOURCES

LIKE "REAL MEN" DID IN THE PAST

NOT BY ADHERING THIS BULLSHIT MODERN DAY FEMINIZED STANDARD OF MASCULINITY

Yeah but chad only, those masculine traits are chad strong men only, hence mostly good looking by default.

 

[Neetocel]

Right now there's a rich man who is into "findom" (a "femdom" fetish where you literally just give women your money to spend) and he is genuinely "happy" because that's his fetish

I wonder if this is the ultimate result of a man successfully domesticated by feminist society. It is just too retarded, it makes no sense whatsoever to me. Even literal cuckoldry fetish is more comprehensible to me than this shit. It just looks too much like a meme.

 

[BlkPillPres]

it makes no sense whatsoever to me

If you can understand the other ones then its essentially the same thing, submissive cuck fetishes are about getting off to being abused, taken advantage of and being at the mercy of someone else

I can understand normal femdom

No such thing as "NORMAL femdom", submissive sexuality is never normal in males, those are female traits, a man with those desires is mentally damaged

Your mindset is ironically a slippery slope and you don't see it

Findom is basically the "natural progression" of a submissive cuck, with femdom you pay money to get physically satisfied (maybe you get to orgasm, a lot of these guys only get whipped and beaten)

Findom is the next step, now you pay even more money and you don't even see the woman, the she doesn't even have to interact with you, its more loss and less gain

Even literal cuckoldry fetish is more comprehensible to me than this shit. It just looks too much like a meme.

Its the same thing, like I said above, its the natural progression of being a cuck, you lose more, are taken advantage of more, and you get less out of the interaction

For example a cuck may give his wife money to go hire BBC men to fuck her and then have dvd's of the sex sent to him in the mail while they both live seperately and don't interact with eachother, he doesn't even get to be in the room, he just gets to look on as it happens in some place he pays for that he never gets to go to

None of these things are "normal" or "comprehensible", its all the same shit and should not be normalized in any way

 

[Neetocel]

If you can understand the other ones then its essentially the same thing, submissive cuck fetishes are about getting off to being abused, taken advantage of and being at the mercy of someone else

No such thing as "NORMAL femdom", submissive sexuality is never normal in males, those are female traits, a man with those desires is mentally damaged

Femdom is too broad of a term, so I think we have to see what type of femdom it refers to and how broad your definition is.


For example, merely liking stronger women or women that are more fierce than shy and timid could be considered by some as a type of "femdom"

 

[BlkPillPres]

Femdom is too broad of a term

Its not broad at all, it means FEMALE DOMINATION, key word is domination, so if you are letting a woman dominate you physically and/or sexually THAT IS FEMDOM

For example, merely liking stronger women or women that are more fierce than shy and timid could be considered by some as a type of "femdom"

No that is not femdom, the woman isn't inherently dominating you physically and/or sexually by virtue of her being stronger than most women or having a certain kind of personality

The first (and only) whore I fucked was thick bitch that was basically taller than me, that wasn't femdom in any sense of the word, I was fucking her, I wasn't letting myself get whipped and all kinda cuck shit

Once again, FEMDOM = FEMALE DOMINATION, if you are the one dominating in the bedroom then the woman could be 6'5" and you're 5'5" and it still isn't femdom. It becomes femdom when you ask her to physically and/or sexually dominate you

 

[BlkPillPres]

I see someone has watched a Looksmaximus video

I've never even heard of that name, I guess this is just a case of "great minds think alike"

EDIT - Went on youtube and someone actually did link me to this channel before, never watched his videos though, I remember the face and the beard

 

[animucel]

Very well said.
Now go to the fucking gym and get strong like a man should.

 

[IncelKing]

@Marquis de Sade pin please

 

[CurrycelRaja]

Rapemaxxing

 

[IncelKing]

Honestly I’m so disappointed in modern day males for emulating female behaviour and improving their looks in order to appear more attractive to women, for pretty much all of human history, our attractiveness has always been based on wealth and power and that is still the case today, yet men are so busy trying to look good to appease women’s unrealistic standards that they neglect moneymaxxing which is the ultimate solution to inceldom as wealth never leaves you but no matter how good you look, your looks will fade over time.

Wealth can always grow if you make the right investments but looks are a depreciating asset and can only be used for attraction in your youth. No matter how good you look, if you don’t have money your girl will leave you for a guy who has money, women need money not just for a luxurious life, they need it for basic survival so if you have money, you have leverage over a woman.

men focussing on improving their looks is just a modern day phenomenon which resulted due to a change in the economic marketplace as a result of women entering the workforce which means that they are no longer as dependant on a man’s wealth as they were in the past, allowing them to be more choosy and select men based on looks. However as mentioned before, this is all temporary and once they enter the adult world, they will quickly realise the importance of money and will prefer to be with a man who can provide a quality lifestyle over a man who is simply good looking.

for men to place so much time and effort into beautifying themselves to attract women shows just how much masculinity has become feminized due to feminism, and it’s really a shame that men have allowed the feminists to win

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

I've posted it with some minor editing. Basically removed all references to incel men. Its less easier for them to dismiss it that way

What did they say?

 

[Genetic Error]

What a fucking thread

 

[HateCurry]

Your looks are your resources: Being pretty is literally the resources dude, it's nothing different

I don't support the idea of raping and killing and torturing people, I just don't like it: People are more likely to kill ugly people anyway and have large social circles based on looks, it's just all too familiar

You can't just adhere to the past and tell me it all turns out well because I'm also more likely to die

 

[Destroyer]

@Master @Fat Link

Move this to the must read section. This is easily one of the best threads on this forum.

Modern masculinity is super feminized and we have men acting like women these days.