Blackpill [Hard To Swallow Edition] The final blackpill: fatalism

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

I used to do meditations and affirmations to exercise my free will but it didn't help.

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

I disagree, free will does exist. Fatalism to me is one of the most retarded concepts ever because why not just kill yourself now if you truly believe that?

It really just sounds like a theory so that nobody has to feel accountable for their own actions or failures. You were clearly using your free will with every letter you typed out for this post, unless you're going to tell me some "force" was "making you" type out every specific letter.

I hope you aren't conflating "free will" and "options".

Everybody has free will, but everybody doesn't have the same options to enact free will.

If I truly believed there was no free will then I wouldn't wealthmaxx at all, any action period would be pointless, me replying to you right now would be pointless, you using that @ symbol to summon me to the thread to get my opinion was also pointless, you creating this thread was pointless, everything is a complete waste of time because it was inevitable and we should all just kill ourselves now, that's the end result of fatalism.

Fatalism is really just the ULTIMATE LDAR NEET PHILOSOPHY

I'm surprised you of all people are posting this.

@IncelKing even your daddy disagrees with you . BlkPillPres, you need to control your son!

 

[IncelKing]

What do you mean?

Remember you aren't the one "trying", you aren't the one "making choices", you aren't the one "performing actions". You have no say in the matter, it was always going to happen, all those words you just used are illusions.

Are you seeing how convoluted this all becomes. You can't have it both ways. If this is your philosophy then stop speaking about things in terms of free will and AUTONOMY, because based on fatalism, you don't have any autonomy. You are pretty much just a robot on autopilot.

It makes no sense to speak about things in terms of personal choice at that point, because personal choice doesn't REALLY exist. It was a predetermined set of events and you had no choice whether or not you were going to do it anyways, it was always going to happen.


Your words don't really match your beliefs. Those words no longer have any meaning under the philosophy of Fatalism.

What does it even mean to "try" when "inaction" has the same root and end result as "action"?

What is an "action" when everything you do is pre-determined and not your "choice"?

What is "choice" when your thoughts themselves are pre-determined?

And on and on it goes.

You see you have to deal with the problem of "infinite regression" because there is no "foundation" for the simple philosophical statement of "I am". There is no "I" in your universe, you essentially don't even exist if we keep going down the line of all the things that "make you YOU" that are completely outside of your control and are pre-determined.

Right now I have the illusion of choice, to choose between wealthmaxxing and giving up/rotting. I can “choose” to wealthmaxx, but was it me who made that choice, or was that choice determined by something external to me which I had no control of?

Think about it.

If I choose to wealthmaxx it’s because my “want” for money is greater than my “want” for free time and not having to work.

But I didn’t choose to want one thing more than another, you can choose your actions but you can’t choose the “wants” which influence you to perform those actions in the first place.

Choices (which you have control of) are made on a conscious level but those choices are made based on your wants which exist on a subconscious level (something you have NO control of)

So if you think about it in that sense, I may have control over what I choose, but I have no control of the factors which made me choose what I chose, so therefore the choice itself is out of my control.

 

[IncelKing]

@BlkPillPres watch this nigga


View: https://youtu.be/Dqj32jxOC0Y

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

It's really just the ultimate tool for someones ego.

I FAIL - "It's not my fault, I was DESTINED to fail, it was just outside of my control " (ego nursing)

I SUCCEED - "I'm pretty amazing, I was DESTINED to be successful, chosen by the universe " (ego stroking)

Omg, you have no idea how much I used to think like this. I can imagine myself talking exactly like this if I ever became successful. Constantly calling myself a "chosen one".

 

[IncelKing]

Bump

 

[Friezacel]

High IQ thread and i agree with it. But the most brutal pill to swallow is still the deathpill. If there was a guarantee for heaven or reincarnation then it wouldnt be too bad, but there will be very likely nothing after death. This is our only shoot at life and we got handed the worst cards imaginable and there is nothing we can do about it.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Agreed. High IQ post. Everyone wants to be successful, good looking, happy, healthy, social... etc. So I keep asking myself why am I "me" or why am I like this and why are my former friends for example succesful normies in relationships, having friends, ok jobs etc. For all the "free will" copers let me tell you this. In this universe and in our reality there is simply bunch of statistical realities that happen every year. Such as 800 000 people commiting suicide every year in the world. Its going to FUCKING HAPPEN bcs it is our reality. All the babies born in the year 2022. 800 000 of them will eventually commit suicide. Some will suffer with chronic physcal or mental illnesses, some will wageslave, some will die tragically , some will be incels etc. One of the real shitty ones are health issues. Having chronic health issues at age of 22 rn and only going downhill its literal hell on earth. Stuff that im getting now is the problems 50+ year olds get.

Health issues are awful man. I’m only 19, but I have many Chronic health issues that are with me for life and will shorten my lifespan. I almost died at 13 from constipation and malnutrition. I have to take high dose laxatives every day for the rest of my life to stay alive. Sometimes my intestines burn like crazy and it’s such agony it makes you wish you were dead. I have many other issues including a bad hip already as well

 

[Runt171]

“Free will” is a concept which is used to blame people for their own failures and suffering, when in reality those who fail were born to fail and those who succeed were born to succeed, nobody has any control of the trajectory of their life as that is determined by destiny

 

[Ultracel30]

Reading all those hard to swallow threads is brutal.

 

[CosmicJoke]

Life is not a game that you play, life is a game that plays YOU.

That's a powerful sentence.

 

[CosmicJoke]

The first stage of the blackpill is to realise that your lack of sexual success is due to things out of your control (looks)

The final stage of the blackpill is to realise that it’s not just sexual success or financial success which is out of our control, but rather the fact that everything that happens in everyone’s lives in every point in time in every part of the world, is also out of anybodys control.

Yes. I've come to terms with it. It's God's will.