Greater Europe defensive lines for our European Empire

[WizardofSoda]

So there is the obvious first layer of defenses for Europe. The Mediterranean Sea to Black Sea, Atlantic Ocean, Arctic Ocean, and down the Ural Mountains line to the Caspian Sea, then through the Caucasus Mountains to the Black Sea.

The next extension is Turkey, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan. Although Azerbaijan might want to go with the Eastern camp, which is fine it doesn't jeopardize the defensive lines.

Then the further extension is the Arabian Peninsula and North Africa. With the Sahara Desert and Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf and the very Mountainous Western Iran being the defensive line.

In North Africa, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco together have 199 million people.

And in the Arabian Peninsula I calculated 179 million people.

In Turkey, Georgia and Armenia there is 90 million people, with 83 million of those in Turkey.


The EU has 445 million people. The UK has 67 million people. Russia has 146 million people, with 113 million of those being in European Russia west of the Ural Mountains. Ukraine 41 million people, Belarus 9 million people. Then some other European countries that aren't in the EU.


Putting it altogether there is about 1,165 million people in this 'greater Europe'. And maybe 695 million in the first layer of defenses I described in the first sentence above.

 

[Quarantined]

defense against what?

 

[ashrafatyoussef]

defense against what?

Arab big dick bvll

 

[JayGoptri]

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So there is the obvious first layer of defenses for Europe. The Mediterranean Sea to Black Sea, Atlantic Ocean, Arctic Ocean, and down the Ural Mountains line to the Caspian Sea, then through the Caucasus Mountains to the Black Sea.

The next extension is Turkey, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan. Although Azerbaijan might want to go with the Eastern camp, which is fine it doesn't jeopardize the defensive lines.

Then the further extension is the Arabian Peninsula and North Africa. With the Sahara Desert and Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf and the very Mountainous Western Iran being the defensive line.

In North Africa, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco together have 199 million people.

And in the Arabian Peninsula I calculated 179 million people.

In Turkey, Georgia and Armenia there is 90 million people, with 83 million of those in Turkey.


The EU has 445 million people. The UK has 67 million people. Russia has 146 million people, with 113 million of those being in European Russia west of the Ural Mountains. Ukraine 41 million people, Belarus 9 million people. Then some other European countries that aren't in the EU.


Putting it altogether there is about 1,165 million people in this 'greater Europe'. And maybe 695 million in the first layer of defenses I described in the first sentence above.

Defense against whom? Putin? You really think he might go for Europe?

 

[WizardofSoda]

defense against what?

The other superpower countries getting proxy countries and creating civil wars and wars between states. Or in some possible future outright the opposing superpowers armies backing up their proxy countries.

Also the future EU superpower could crush naturally arising civil wars within its member states, and also crush any state within the EU which attacked another one.

So since the US took control of most of Western Europe in the 1940's, there has been no wars either civil wars or wars between nations there. Then we moved the line forward to bring in the ex-Warsaw Pact countries in the 1990's. And again no civil wars or wars between nations for them either. With the overwhelming force the US military can force binding arbitration between parties with disputes.


Now compare to Europe's history of never ending wars. So in Europe's case and the Middle East, its mainly stopping wars from each other. Even having one country not under their control.. eg.. Russia, and yep already fighting a big war with another European country.


For propaganda purposes though you can't tell people the huge military you are constructing is to stop THEM from fighting. So you have to define an enemy outside.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Defense against whom? Putin? You really think he might go for Europe?

Ya say the US wasn't in Europe. And Russia rolled over Ukraine, conquered it and added Ukraine's military to its own.

Then no doubt before long Russia would be going after the next country. Eg.. Russia was already saying it wants Moldova back, and Georgia and Armenia. And making claims on Poland's territory. And saying it needs to secure the Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, which all 3 were in the Soviet Union.

And its not just Russia.. Germany would be on the warpath, everybody would be arming up and allying up.

 

[subhuman]

The "European Empire" would never work. Plenty of people have tried to create it and failed, such as Carlos V. Europe's geography, with all its mountains and seas, naturally favors balkanization.

Compare this to places like China, which tended to be dominated by large monolithic empires because it lacked internal geographical borders.

 

[5ft4ropeconnoisseur]

Lol Europe is just gonna rot from the inside outside anyway. There will be no conventional military invasion unless you mean an army of shitskins being let in by your own politicians

 

[WizardofSoda]

The "European Empire" would never work. Plenty of people have tried to create it and failed, such as Carlos V. Europe's geography, with all its mountains and seas, naturally favors balkanization.
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Compare this to places like China, which tended to be dominated by large monolithic empires because it lacked internal geographical borders.
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Yes you are right that has been the reason in comparison to India and China. Spain is protected by the Pyrenees, Italy by the Alps, Scandinavia by the Sea, and Britain is a full Islands, the Greek peninsula area. and Turkey is very defendable.

Then all the other mountains in Europe for natural barriers or otherwise areas like Switzerland which are defendable by breakaway states. All the rivers form very substantial obstacles like seen numerous times in this Ukraine war.


The longer term plan is to get rid of ethnic majority nationalists in each area. For example by moving Italians around Europe, and moving people from around Europe to Italy. Then through intermixing with breeding that people don't have loyalty to just one ethnic nationality.

In each country like say ethnic Italians were only 30% of the population in Italy, then ethnic nationalists couldn't form majorities, even if they were to convince a majority of ethnic Italians to try to go to war to leave the EU.

With this intermixing people will need a common language to speak to each other. Like in EU government, universities, religion, multi-national corporations, trade, even travelling. Then to talk to all the immigrants from outside the EU as well. So English will most likely take over. Then the other languages can fade away.

 

[JayGoptri]

Ya say the US wasn't in Europe. And Russia rolled over Ukraine, conquered it and added Ukraine's military to its own.

Then no doubt before long Russia would be going after the next country. Eg.. Russia was already saying it wants Moldova back, and Georgia and Armenia. And making claims on Poland's territory. And saying it needs to secure the Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, which all 3 were in the Soviet Union.

I know it sounds terrible but from a naieve pov - I feel as though it could/should take these places and I wouldn't mind. Would make the world easier to understand I guess?

And its not just Russia.. Germany would be on the warpath, everybody would be arming up and allying up.

Ahh. With Germany the buck stops here. This is a major player and if Russia wanted them I would support a big war with Western Europe vs Russia.