a lot of people said that Turkish people aren't aryans or white which is true, we don't see ourselves as aryans or as Europeans(we have white skin), But there is no historical claim backing that statement up and I would like to make the counter historical claim, after @Lonely Slav was being an faggot and hypocrite + nigger.
Book: Ataturk in the Nazi Imagination by: Stefhan Iring.
Turkiye in WW2 was definitely an axis neutral in the war. Various Weimar-German newspapers were optimistic for the Turkish nation and its people.
"The German papers became overexcited by the nego-
tiating style of the Turks. Sentences like “Ankara will not tolerate
foreign meddling” were repeatedly set in bold print.104 Many arti-
cles ended with quotes from Atatürk, set in bold letters: “Without
faltering we march on to conquer our absolute independence.”105 “Life
is nothing without independence.”106
"
Above all, the right- to far-right-wing papers and the Kreuzzeitung
were sure that the Entente did not see the situation in Anatolia clearly,
while they themselves, of course, did. At the beginning of this con-
viction stood a unique German perspective: that of the counsel of
the former German military advisor to the Ottomans, von der Goltz
Pasha. Goltz’s opinions were presented to the readers in an article
in May 1919, the first longer summary of the war up to this date, in
the weekly section “Äußere Politik der Woche” (Foreign Policy of
the Week), of which one and a half columns were devoted to the Turk-
ish question. Perhaps now Goltz Pasha’s advice to Sultan Abdul Ha-
mid II would come true,"
"
And then there was also the op-
portunity for German anti-Semites to think through their ideas about
Central European Jewry and the stab-in-the-back myth, with the
Armenians standing in for the Jews in the Turkish case."
"
With such an explicit call to
apply “Turkish methods” already in early 1921, the Völkischer Beobachter
was well ahead of most of the German papers discussed in Chapter 1,
and it prefigured similar descriptions of Ankara as “the youngest
republic” by half a year"
"
Within a month
it reiterated that at some point Germany would “not be spared” the
“practical application” (Nutzanwendung) of the Turkish case. 25 Af-
ter April 1921 the paper refocused on Germany and its core issues,
such as anti-Semitism, to the neglect of all foreign developments; this
was also when Hitler stopped writing for the Völkischer Beobachter.26
It then left its readers to ponder by themselves what the “practical
applications” of the Turkish case might be."
"
The nation followed him filled with enthusiasm and the will to
sacrifice. In a three-year desperate struggle Kemal Pasha has
awakened the Turks to new life, has probably paved the way for
Mohammedanism to regain an important position in the world
that it has not had for centuries, all this not only by being their
commander but also by being an ingenious politician, as the
Treaty of Ankara proves. Yet the 60-million-strong German na-
tion has signed its own shame in the Treaty of Versailles with
no resistance, it beslobbers and hates its heroes and is being led
willingly to the slaughterhouse by the fulfillment politicians.
National instinct, national will, is all that counts; history
teaches this on all its pages. A nation that gives up on itself is
lost— and rightly so. World history would make no sense, have
no logic [to it], if the German nation were not to perish—if it
were to remain on the path it has now chosen.37"
German newspapers adovcating for the negotiating style of the Ankara government:
dominating the front page on October 27, 1923, with the headline
“Give Us an Ankara Government!” (“Her die Angora-Regierung!”;
Fig. 2.1). This article described the recent inner German conflict and
concluded that there was but one “way out that could save us”: “the
solution of the German question.” The Heimatland was in dialogue
with the Frankfurter Zeitung, which it quoted in bold letters: “A new
revolution starting in Bavaria to spread throughout Germany, the
establishment of a counter-revolutionary Germany starting from
Bavaria—is that the solution?”"
Hitler saying that an Anatolian farmer is worth more than an German man because he is more patriotic and sacrificing to his country.
“[Today] an Anatolian
farmer is worth more than a German man of letters with the high-
est income. A nation must be able to sacrifice itself for its ideals”— a
point Hitler had also stressed in a speech in 1922." -- Adolf Hitler
"
A circular from April 30, 1936, in the name
of the various relevant ministries as well as the NSDAP Office for Ra-
cial Policy announced their decision, which was summarized by head-
lines in the Turkish press two months later as: “The Turks Are Ary-
ans!” 61 The argument made in the circular is disturbingly similar to
some arguments used in the EU-Turkey debate of the early years of
the twenty-first century, some sixty-five years later, where one of the
pro-Turkish arguments had been that Turkey was European because
it had aspired for so long to be Eu ropean. 62"
Essentially, the Nazis were inspired by Ataturk's nationalist movement("
Or as the National Zeitung put it: “Only
one remained upright in these difficult days: Mustafa Kemal.”) calling explictly for an 'Ankara-style government' in negotiation and style, In Nazi Myth, Ataturk was potrayed as an Aryan, (he was blond and he had blue eyes) and as an core Turk(Kenturken)
and its fight against its enemies, the Greeks and Armenians "
He was “inspired” by the “difference in blood,” which
he could feel vis-à-vis the “lesser races" (from Nazi sources)
Even more glazing:
"At the same time this book is a warning to the German peo-
ple: Just as Ghazi Mustafa Kemal was able to ask for the most
incredible sacrifices from his people in order to crown the bat-
tle for honor and freedom of his nation with a great victory, so
we Germans must—just like the Turks—never lose heart and
stay true to our great Führer. And when he asks sacrifices of
us, then there must be no German who does not perform his
sacrifice with just the same joyful heart as did the Turkish
nation.
Because no sacrifice is too great when it is necessary to pre-
serve the honor and the freedom of the nation, because both are
the greatest goods a nation can have."74
The Nazis also viewed the Ottoman empire, an ethnic empire consisting of 22 races(according to the 1901 edition of the Encloypeida Britannica) as an artificial empire intent on burdening the Turks and creating the superiority of ethnics. ("“lacked any healthy, sustainable or völkisch foundations” and was held back by its multiethnic character, the influence and even rule of ‘foreign elements,’ and the ‘retarding character of Islam’)
“the Turk was never sick, but he had to carry the incredible weight of an unorganic empire” (Another quote, JFL))))
“Atatürk was the first to show that it is possible to mobilize and regenerate the resources that a country has lost. In this respect, Atatürk was a teacher; Mussolini was the first and I his second student.” (From hitler himself))
@Lonely Slav by your metrics, your people are subhuman. And it is we, the great Anatolian people that are superior to your jewish meddling. You are nothing more than an inferior lonely dog and your family going back to three generations should have been castrasted.
Book: Ataturk in the Nazi Imagination by: Stefhan Iring.
Turkiye in WW2 was definitely an axis neutral in the war. Various Weimar-German newspapers were optimistic for the Turkish nation and its people.
"The German papers became overexcited by the nego-
tiating style of the Turks. Sentences like “Ankara will not tolerate
foreign meddling” were repeatedly set in bold print.104 Many arti-
cles ended with quotes from Atatürk, set in bold letters: “Without
faltering we march on to conquer our absolute independence.”105 “Life
is nothing without independence.”106
"
Above all, the right- to far-right-wing papers and the Kreuzzeitung
were sure that the Entente did not see the situation in Anatolia clearly,
while they themselves, of course, did. At the beginning of this con-
viction stood a unique German perspective: that of the counsel of
the former German military advisor to the Ottomans, von der Goltz
Pasha. Goltz’s opinions were presented to the readers in an article
in May 1919, the first longer summary of the war up to this date, in
the weekly section “Äußere Politik der Woche” (Foreign Policy of
the Week), of which one and a half columns were devoted to the Turk-
ish question. Perhaps now Goltz Pasha’s advice to Sultan Abdul Ha-
mid II would come true,"
"
And then there was also the op-
portunity for German anti-Semites to think through their ideas about
Central European Jewry and the stab-in-the-back myth, with the
Armenians standing in for the Jews in the Turkish case."
"
With such an explicit call to
apply “Turkish methods” already in early 1921, the Völkischer Beobachter
was well ahead of most of the German papers discussed in Chapter 1,
and it prefigured similar descriptions of Ankara as “the youngest
republic” by half a year"
"
Within a month
it reiterated that at some point Germany would “not be spared” the
“practical application” (Nutzanwendung) of the Turkish case. 25 Af-
ter April 1921 the paper refocused on Germany and its core issues,
such as anti-Semitism, to the neglect of all foreign developments; this
was also when Hitler stopped writing for the Völkischer Beobachter.26
It then left its readers to ponder by themselves what the “practical
applications” of the Turkish case might be."
"
The nation followed him filled with enthusiasm and the will to
sacrifice. In a three-year desperate struggle Kemal Pasha has
awakened the Turks to new life, has probably paved the way for
Mohammedanism to regain an important position in the world
that it has not had for centuries, all this not only by being their
commander but also by being an ingenious politician, as the
Treaty of Ankara proves. Yet the 60-million-strong German na-
tion has signed its own shame in the Treaty of Versailles with
no resistance, it beslobbers and hates its heroes and is being led
willingly to the slaughterhouse by the fulfillment politicians.
National instinct, national will, is all that counts; history
teaches this on all its pages. A nation that gives up on itself is
lost— and rightly so. World history would make no sense, have
no logic [to it], if the German nation were not to perish—if it
were to remain on the path it has now chosen.37"
German newspapers adovcating for the negotiating style of the Ankara government:
dominating the front page on October 27, 1923, with the headline
“Give Us an Ankara Government!” (“Her die Angora-Regierung!”;
Fig. 2.1). This article described the recent inner German conflict and
concluded that there was but one “way out that could save us”: “the
solution of the German question.” The Heimatland was in dialogue
with the Frankfurter Zeitung, which it quoted in bold letters: “A new
revolution starting in Bavaria to spread throughout Germany, the
establishment of a counter-revolutionary Germany starting from
Bavaria—is that the solution?”"
Hitler saying that an Anatolian farmer is worth more than an German man because he is more patriotic and sacrificing to his country.
“[Today] an Anatolian
farmer is worth more than a German man of letters with the high-
est income. A nation must be able to sacrifice itself for its ideals”— a
point Hitler had also stressed in a speech in 1922." -- Adolf Hitler
"
A circular from April 30, 1936, in the name
of the various relevant ministries as well as the NSDAP Office for Ra-
cial Policy announced their decision, which was summarized by head-
lines in the Turkish press two months later as: “The Turks Are Ary-
ans!” 61 The argument made in the circular is disturbingly similar to
some arguments used in the EU-Turkey debate of the early years of
the twenty-first century, some sixty-five years later, where one of the
pro-Turkish arguments had been that Turkey was European because
it had aspired for so long to be Eu ropean. 62"
Essentially, the Nazis were inspired by Ataturk's nationalist movement("
Or as the National Zeitung put it: “Only
one remained upright in these difficult days: Mustafa Kemal.”) calling explictly for an 'Ankara-style government' in negotiation and style, In Nazi Myth, Ataturk was potrayed as an Aryan, (he was blond and he had blue eyes) and as an core Turk(Kenturken)
and its fight against its enemies, the Greeks and Armenians "
He was “inspired” by the “difference in blood,” which
he could feel vis-à-vis the “lesser races" (from Nazi sources)
Even more glazing:
"At the same time this book is a warning to the German peo-
ple: Just as Ghazi Mustafa Kemal was able to ask for the most
incredible sacrifices from his people in order to crown the bat-
tle for honor and freedom of his nation with a great victory, so
we Germans must—just like the Turks—never lose heart and
stay true to our great Führer. And when he asks sacrifices of
us, then there must be no German who does not perform his
sacrifice with just the same joyful heart as did the Turkish
nation.
Because no sacrifice is too great when it is necessary to pre-
serve the honor and the freedom of the nation, because both are
the greatest goods a nation can have."74
The Nazis also viewed the Ottoman empire, an ethnic empire consisting of 22 races(according to the 1901 edition of the Encloypeida Britannica) as an artificial empire intent on burdening the Turks and creating the superiority of ethnics. ("“lacked any healthy, sustainable or völkisch foundations” and was held back by its multiethnic character, the influence and even rule of ‘foreign elements,’ and the ‘retarding character of Islam’)
“the Turk was never sick, but he had to carry the incredible weight of an unorganic empire” (Another quote, JFL))))
“Atatürk was the first to show that it is possible to mobilize and regenerate the resources that a country has lost. In this respect, Atatürk was a teacher; Mussolini was the first and I his second student.” (From hitler himself))
@Lonely Slav by your metrics, your people are subhuman. And it is we, the great Anatolian people that are superior to your jewish meddling. You are nothing more than an inferior lonely dog and your family going back to three generations should have been castrasted.
