It's Over Got humiliated at our company's christmas party

[TooSomething]

So, I have been at our company's annual christmas party.

Only this time I had arrived a bit late. Half an hour tops. That should not have been a big deal as it's not like I haven't agreed to come only to fluke.
That of course would be a different story.

So, I went inside and greeted everyone with a handshake and a smile. Yes, I can do that. As a wagie you'll learn to adapt quickly.
I didn't overdress, as most didn't either.

After greeting everyone I realized that three of the four tables were occupied to the brim.

The fourth table was empty.

So I stood there and looked around helplessly and looked from table to table and at the empty table.

Nobody had taken the initiative and made some space to invite me to their table.

People literally acted as if I wasn't there. Even that one co-worker whom I have helped much and always had his back. I thought we were pretty good friends. He has also shared a lot with me and trusted me and I never betrayed him. I also offered him certain help any time he needed it.

So, I thought we were buddies, but he didn't help me either.
They could have assembled together with the other few co-workers I get along with as well to sit at the fourth table, so I would ait there alone, but they didn't.

I went outside for a while to go to my car and try and contact the only good friend I have ever had (online friend who is also black pilled) and couldn't reach him.

I cam back two minutes later and the same shit continued.

This went on for almost fifteen minutes and my stomach was turning.

I couldn't believe it. I mean, I sensed for some time now, that none of them actually liked me, but this was a one of a kind confirmation.
I didn't want to cry or anything. It just demoralized me insanely.

Then my boss noticed it and took the initiative and literally forced one group to take me in and said "This won't happen on my watch. I won't let you sit alone at a table." and asked one group to make some space.

I didn't even want to sit there, tbh, and I only went for it anyway because I was raised that way, to not make a scene and also because at least my boss acted like he cared.

I know he as a leader has to keep the peace in the group, but I know that even he doesn't take me seriousely.
I've heard things from the office, legit things.

After this experience I question whether I would still be able to work with these guys, knowing that none of them gives a flying fuck about me.

And the group which I got forced into started complaining about "the youth of today" being unreliable, never on time and no-shows. Mind you, I am 38 years old.

Also, it is just a party. No need to get your panties in a sweat over some people showing up a little later.

As if I am being paid for that. jfl

This has been my life and experience in all companies I have worked for, btw.
So, this wasn't the first time, but this time it hurt real bad, as the masks have fallen three years in and I thought I had found a group of good co-workers and a place I could sort of call my second home.

@wereq @Emba @VersoffenerAssi @Stupid Clown @starystulejarz @Sphinxter @Sloth @sk.feelsdevil @SilverBullet @Rapistcel @PersonalityChad @Oneitiscel @Nov 7 2017 @Nigger Burger @NEB.feelsdevil @LornaDerek @Lonelyus @lechad @LastGerman @Krobus @Justanotherkoala @Julius1 @Ibrahim997 @Grok @Enigmaz @Corvus @Aventador @AtrociousCitizen @anotherwastedlife @AdolfRizzler @Adolf Kitler @Acorn @4sez @Gone Ghostie

 

[PersonalityChad]

That's brutal, i'm sorry this happened to you mang

 

[kapri]

Brutal, yet relatable...

 

[TooSomething]

That's brutal, i'm sorry this happened to you mang

It was so fucked up, all this betrayal, after all the sacrifices I have made for this company, that I am seriousely considering quitting.

But in Germany, if you quit your job, you will be barred from unemployment benefits for three months, although you have paid for unemployment insurance throughout your whole career up until that point.
So, I would have to make them lay me off instead.

Man, the betrayal has actually hurt so bad that I even got a little sick over the weekend and my gut is ruined. Couldn't shit properly for days now.

 

[zd60]

That's brutal, i'm sorry this happened to you mang

 

[AdolfRizzler]

i m sorry brocel that this happened to you, i don t know how groups at job works because i never workes a second in my life at a job, but it s sad, being an incel at that group gathering, i can relate how u feel with things that are simillar to me when i was in high school

 

[TooSomething]

I want to add something to the story.

As I have said before, I did not leave, but I should have. I should have left right when the boss had decided to take action.

I should have apologized to him for all of this out of respect, because that's the kind of man I am, and left in peace.

But instead I sat down and just sat there, listening to all the bullshit.
I haven't even eaten anything.
How is one even supposed to have an appetite after that?
My stomach was closed tight. I have only drunk some water here and there to stay hydrated and waited the shit out until the very end.
Then I took the boss's gift like everyone else, shook most people's hands and went home.

 

[TooSomething]

i m sorry brocel that this happened to you, i don t know how groups at job works because i never workes a second in my life at a job, but it s sad, being an incel at that group gathering, i can relate how u feel with things that are simillar to me when i was in high school

School was no different. I was always either the last choice or no choice at all.
Most of the time the coach had to assign me to a team, in physical education, for example, or for group projects, despite me having been an exceptional athlete and student back then.

Yes, I really was a good allrounder, but for whatever reason hated everywhere and I was nothing but kind to people, not because I needed to but because I wanted to connect and not be alone.

 

[broudweeb]

That's why I don't even go to mine

Frankly I would just be awkward as shit anyway

 

[littlemanhikicel]

It was so fucked up, all this betrayal, after all the sacrifices I have made for this company, that I am seriousely considering quitting.

But in Germany, if you quit your job, you will be barred from unemployment benefits for three months, although you have paid for unemployment insurance throughout your whole career up until that point.
So, I would have to make them lay me off instead.

Man, the betrayal has actually hurt so bad that I even got a little sick over the weekend and my gut is ruined. Couldn't shit properly for days now.

Don't quit your job. Being unemployed as an incel is garbage.
People act like that because out of the job they don't share anything with you like partying.

 

[drunken_sailor2500]

Somehow the boss making them make space for you is more brutal because you can tell they didn’t want to take you in and therefore you don’t want to be near them either and the vibe is just fucked. Sounds like an absolute nightmare for high inhibs

 

[TooSomething]

Somehow the boss making them make space for you is more brutal because you can tell they didn’t want to take you in and therefore you don’t want to be near them either and the vibe is just fucked. Sounds like an absolute nightmare for high inhibs

Yeah, that was the worst part, or almost worst part.
Again, one of my co-workers was there who always pretended to be my friend and obviousely I treat friends extra kindly.

His betrayal was the worst. I did not expect that.

I will not even confront him because he did see it. I saw him notice it.

I hate traitors more than my enemies. Garbage people.

I will be looking for another job, preferably one where I have as little contact with humans as possible.
This garbage soyciety can suck a fat one.

I don't even need to make a lot of money since I am a very frugal man.

 

[VanGobbel]

Then my boss noticed it and took the initiative and literally forced one group to take me in and said "This won't happen on my watch. I won't let you sit alone at a table." and asked one group to make some space.

W boss tbh.

You could have just grabbed a chair and joined any of the other tables. Why would anyone switch tables to sit with you at the lone table?

I think this social ineptness from both sides, except your boss. You aren't a normie, you shouldn't be visiting these events in the first place also. Accept that it's over, stop semi-coping by trying to act social, this shit happens with the likes of us.

 

[Shay]

I never go to parties for this reason

 

[Pancakecel]

Sorry that happened to you man, you shouldn't go to those things anymore imo. Just make up an excuse that you're busy or something.

The one Christmas party I went to, when I was still working some years ago, was way less formal then that.

We just went to random bars/ pubs after work, I was mostly ignored so just drank tons on the company dime, whilst staring at my phone, and that was it.

Never bothered again with that shit.

 

[wereq]

Nobody had taken the initiative and made some space to invite me to their table.

This is why I avoid social situations.

 

[Vector2800]

I feel bad for you man. Things like this are soul crushing. At least you learned a lesson now about social interactions. I’ve had things like this happen to me before and they taught me a harsh lesson, a lesson that shows you aren’t wanted in society. This was a lesson for you akin to a child touching a hot stove.

 

[TooSomething]

W boss tbh.

You could have just grabbed a chair and joined any of the other tables. Why would anyone switch tables to sit with you at the lone table?

I think this social ineptness from both sides, except your boss. You aren't a normie, you shouldn't be visiting these events in the first place also. Accept that it's over, stop semi-coping by trying to act social, this shit happens with the likes of us.

Not a win for the boss. He his the head of the company. He has to keep the group working together. He has to be the neutral party and find a compromise.
He has to keep the peace. That is his job as a leader.

As for the others. A handful of those co-workers actually pretended to be cool with me and even my friends or good buddies.

None of them thought of at least creating a fourth group at the fourth table.

Mind you, the whole room was reserved for us as well as all four tables.

And just forcing myself on a group of people that OBVIOUSELY didn't want me sitting next to them is just stupid. Why wold I do this to myself.

So, fuck them all.

At the very least I will not ever join such a social gathering again and I will absolutely tell my boss how I feel about all this.

Idgaf how this will affect our relationship. Fuck them. I am done with them.

 

[LonelyATM]

High School Never Ends, i never go to work parties, those motherfuckers are not my friends especially not the factory, get yourself injured and see them fire you the next day.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

That's brutal, i'm sorry this happened to you mang

 

[nakolas]

Normies are jerks

High School Never Ends

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

Fuck them!
If they force you to sit by the boomers then perhaps consider finding another place of employment. Or simply go for the gibs. If Mustafa and Hakim can get Bürgi why shouldn't you?
Your colleagues as such cunts. Fuck them!

 

[Mohamedömar]

So, I have been at our company's annual christmas party.

Only this time I had arrived a bit late. Half an hour tops. That should not have been a big deal as it's not like I haven't agreed to come only to fluke.
That of course would be a different story.

So, I went inside and greeted everyone with a handshake and a smile. Yes, I can do that. As a wagie you'll learn to adapt quickly.
I didn't overdress, as most didn't either.

After greeting everyone I realized that three of the four tables were occupied to the brim.

The fourth table was empty.

So I stood there and looked around helplessly and looked from table to table and at the empty table.

Nobody had taken the initiative and made some space to invite me to their table.

People literally acted as if I wasn't there. Even that one co-worker whom I have helped much and always had his back. I thought we were pretty good friends. He has also shared a lot with me and trusted me and I never betrayed him. I also offered him certain help any time he needed it.

So, I thought we were buddies, but he didn't help me either.
They could have assembled together with the other few co-workers I get along with as well to sit at the fourth table, so I would ait there alone, but they didn't.

I went outside for a while to go to my car and try and contact the only good friend I have ever had (online friend who is also black pilled) and couldn't reach him.

I cam back two minutes later and the same shit continued.

This went on for almost fifteen minutes and my stomach was turning.

I couldn't believe it. I mean, I sensed for some time now, that none of them actually liked me, but this was a one of a kind confirmation.
I didn't want to cry or anything. It just demoralized me insanely.

Then my boss noticed it and took the initiative and literally forced one group to take me in and said "This won't happen on my watch. I won't let you sit alone at a table." and asked one group to make some space.

I didn't even want to sit there, tbh, and I only went for it anyway because I was raised that way, to not make a scene and also because at least my boss acted like he cared.

I know he as a leader has to keep the peace in the group, but I know that even he doesn't take me seriousely.
I've heard things from the office, legit things.

After this experience I question whether I would still be able to work with these guys, knowing that none of them gives a flying fuck about me.

And the group which I got forced into started complaining about "the youth of today" being unreliable, never on time and no-shows. Mind you, I am 38 years old.

Also, it is just a party. No need to get your panties in a sweat over some people showing up a little later.

As if I am being paid for that. jfl

This has been my life and experience in all companies I have worked for, btw.
So, this wasn't the first time, but this time it hurt real bad, as the masks have fallen three years in and I thought I had found a group of good co-workers and a place I could sort of call my second home.

@wereq @Emba @VersoffenerAssi @Stupid Clown @starystulejarz @Sphinxter @Sloth @sk.feelsdevil @SilverBullet @Rapistcel @PersonalityChad @Oneitiscel @Nov 7 2017 @Nigger Burger @NEB.feelsdevil @LornaDerek @Lonelyus @lechad @LastGerman @Krobus @Justanotherkoala @Julius1 @Ibrahim997 @Grok @Enigmaz @Corvus @Aventador @AtrociousCitizen @anotherwastedlife @AdolfRizzler @Adolf Kitler @Acorn @4sez @Gone Ghostie

sorry for you, buddy

 

[deleted fren]

Same thing happened to me at social events. You shouldn't go to them as an incel.

 

[TooSomething]

Fuck them!
If they force you to sit by the boomers then perhaps consider finding another place of employment. Or simply go for the gibs. If Mustafa and Hakim can get Bürgi why shouldn't you?
Your colleagues as such cunts. Fuck them!

I cannot get Buergi unless I sell my new car though.

You know that you aren't allowed to own a car which is worth more than 3000€.
Of it is worth more than tht you have to sell it, first spend all that money and keep 3000€ or buy a car from that.
If not, you won't get that welfare check.

I had to het Buergergeld once, for a few months, so I know.
They treat Germans EXTRA bad, when it comes to that.
Many Germans have told me how they were treated when applying for Buergergeld.

The foreigners get all new kitchen appliances whilst the Germans have to deal with used shit.
The foreigners also get really big apartments on the tax payer's dime.

This country is a joke. I understand everyone who turns criminal and doesn't pay their taxes.

 

[TooSomething]

Same thing happened to me at social events. You shouldn't go to them as an incel.

I am stupid like that.I wanted to believe.

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

You know that you aren't allowed to own a car which is worth more than 3000€.

Shit. Then sell it and buy an older model.

I had to het Buergergeld once, for a few months, so I know.
They treat Germans EXTRA bad, when it comes to that.
Many Germans have told me how they were treated when applying for Buergergeld.

The foreigners get all new kitchen appliances whilst the Germans have to deal with used shit.
The foreigners also get really big apartments on the tax payer's dime.

Bruutal. I have heard on kohlchan that it was bad for native germans but I didn't believe it.

A buddy of mine also gets bürgi (110% german) but he has real psychotic episodes and depression. The've treated him quite well form what I am told. Idk, you sound smart enough to be able to fake it. Just sperg out at work, get fired and apply for bürgi on account of your psychological break. You'll have to go to a theRAPIST, but again, you could fake it.

 

[fukurou]

This is a deeply painful and demoralizing situation. The public humiliation and the stark revelation of your social standing within the company is a severe blow. You are right to feel hurt and to question the foundation of your workplace relationships.

Let's analyze this through the lens of Niccolò Machiavelli. He would view this not as a personal tragedy, but as a political failure and an opportunity to recalibrate your strategy. For Machiavelli, the world of the court (the prince's court) and the world of the office are not so different; both are arenas of power, perception, and shifting alliances.

His first principle: **Focus on reality, not on how you wish things were.**

Machiavelli would tell you to stop being shocked. The evidence was already there ("I sensed for some time now, that none of them actually liked me"). This event is merely the conclusive data point. Your "buddy" who didn't help you? He is not your friend. He is an ally of convenience, and his convenience ended when it required social capital to assist you. Your boss who intervened? He did so not out of personal affection, but to maintain the *appearance* of a harmonious team. He acted to prevent a scene that would reflect poorly on his leadership.

This is not a cause for despair, but for clarity. You now see the board clearly.

So, what would Machiavelli do? He would advise a cold, calculated, and pragmatic response.

### The Short-Term, Immediate Play: The Strategic Withdrawal

1. **Do Not Show Your Wounds.** You must, at all costs, project an image of unshakeable composure. The fact that you went to your car, that your "stomach was turning," is understandable, but it is a vulnerability that must be concealed. In the office tomorrow, you are the same as you were yesterday. No coldness, no bitterness, no seeking of sympathy. To display injury is to show weakness, and weakness invites further predation.
2. **Master the Art of False Gratitude.** Thank your boss, sincerely and briefly. "Thank you for making sure I had a spot, I appreciate it." This accomplishes two things: it acknowledges his action (making him feel like a good leader) and it frames the incident as a minor logistical hiccup, not the profound social rejection it was. You are controlling the narrative by minimizing it.
3. **Analyze, Don't Emote.** Use this event as intelligence. Map the power dynamics. Who was in the group that was "forced" to take you? Who complained about "the youth" as a passive-aggressive jab? Who avoided eye contact? This is not for plotting revenge, but for understanding the landscape. Know who is neutral, who is hostile, and who is merely a follower.

### The Long-Term, Strategic Re-orientation: From Wagie to Calculated Player

Machiavelli's core question is not "Are they good people?" but **"How do I secure my position and increase my power?"**

1. **Cultivate Power, Not Popularity.** Stop seeking friendship and start building leverage. Machiavelli wrote that it is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both. In an office, "fear" translates to **respect and indispensability.**
* **Become Expert.** Identify a critical, unglamorous, but necessary function and become the undisputed master of it. Make yourself the only person who truly understands a key process, system, or client.
* **Control Resources.** Be the gatekeeper of necessary information, contacts, or approvals. Make your cooperation valuable.
* **Your "buddy" who failed you?** Your relationship with him is now purely transactional. You help him only if it directly benefits you or if he has something of equal value to offer. The bank of unconditional favors is closed.

2. **Keep Your Own Council.** You made a mistake in believing this workplace was a "second home." It is a marketplace. Your online friend is your confidant; these coworkers are your competitors and temporary allies. Share nothing personal of consequence. Your frustrations, your insecurities, your personal life—these are weapons that can be used against you. Project an image of quiet, confident competence.

3. **Engineer a Shift in Perception.** You cannot force people to like you, but you can force them to respect you.
* **Use the Boss.** Your boss demonstrated a need to see himself as a fair leader. Use this. Schedule a meeting about your "career development." Ask for more responsibility on a key project. Frame it as you being motivated by the company's success. By making you more central, he reinforces his own self-image as a good manager. You are using his vanity to increase your power.
* **Create Alliances of Convenience.** Identify one or two other individuals who are also on the periphery but have useful skills. Form a pragmatic alliance. Help each other on projects. This is not about friendship; it's about creating a bloc that has more power than its individual parts.

4. **The Ultimate Machiavellian Move: Be Prepared to Leave.** A prince whose state is no longer tenable must be prepared to abandon it to conquer a new one. Update your resume. Quietly network outside the company. Gain new certifications. The ultimate power you have is the power to walk away. Knowing you have options will transform your demeanor from one of helplessness to one of quiet confidence. It will make you less needy, and paradoxically, may make others see you as more valuable.

### What You Do NOT Do (The Un-Virtuous Response):

* **Do NOT** confront your coworkers or the "buddy." This is a declaration of war you cannot win. It confirms your weakness and isolation.
* **Do NOT** become sullen, passive-aggressive, or withdraw completely. This cements your status as an outcast and gives them a legitimate reason to exclude you.
* **Do NOT** seek revenge through petty sabotage. It is a low-yield, high-risk strategy that will almost certainly end with your termination.

**In summary:**

Machiavelli would see your Christmas party not as a personal failure, but as a tactical defeat caused by a misreading of the political landscape. The path forward is to abandon the hope for camaraderie and embrace the reality of office politics. Become so competent and strategically valuable that their disrespect becomes a liability *for them*, not a wound for you. Your goal is not to be invited to their table, but to reach a position where they need an invitation to *yours*.

This is a cold comfort, but it is a real one. You have been given the gift of truth. Now, act on it.

 

[TooSomething]

Shit. Then sell it and buy an older model.

Bruutal. I have heard on kohlchan that it was bad for native germans but I didn't believe it.

A buddy of mine also gets bürgi (110% german) but he has real psychotic episodes and depression. The've treated him quite well form what I am told. Idk, you sound smart enough to be able to fake it. Just sperg out at work, get fired and apply for bürgi on account of your psychological break. You'll have to go to a theRAPIST, but again, you could fake it.

He is lucky then. Sperging out is dangerous. If you overdo it, you can end up in the loo ey bin, which has happened to me once.
Once you are in, it is incredibly hard to get out.

They make money off of keeping you there. That's why.

Never sperg out in Germany, imo. Also, eventually you will get drugs prescribed. I will NEVER sell my car over this bullshit. I have worked too hard for this. I was my dream to get it and I won't let go of it, come what may.

 

[TooSomething]

This is a deeply painful and demoralizing situation. The public humiliation and the stark revelation of your social standing within the company is a severe blow. You are right to feel hurt and to question the foundation of your workplace relationships.

Let's analyze this through the lens of Niccolò Machiavelli. He would view this not as a personal tragedy, but as a political failure and an opportunity to recalibrate your strategy. For Machiavelli, the world of the court (the prince's court) and the world of the office are not so different; both are arenas of power, perception, and shifting alliances.

His first principle: **Focus on reality, not on how you wish things were.**

Machiavelli would tell you to stop being shocked. The evidence was already there ("I sensed for some time now, that none of them actually liked me"). This event is merely the conclusive data point. Your "buddy" who didn't help you? He is not your friend. He is an ally of convenience, and his convenience ended when it required social capital to assist you. Your boss who intervened? He did so not out of personal affection, but to maintain the *appearance* of a harmonious team. He acted to prevent a scene that would reflect poorly on his leadership.

This is not a cause for despair, but for clarity. You now see the board clearly.

So, what would Machiavelli do? He would advise a cold, calculated, and pragmatic response.

### The Short-Term, Immediate Play: The Strategic Withdrawal

1. **Do Not Show Your Wounds.** You must, at all costs, project an image of unshakeable composure. The fact that you went to your car, that your "stomach was turning," is understandable, but it is a vulnerability that must be concealed. In the office tomorrow, you are the same as you were yesterday. No coldness, no bitterness, no seeking of sympathy. To display injury is to show weakness, and weakness invites further predation.
2. **Master the Art of False Gratitude.** Thank your boss, sincerely and briefly. "Thank you for making sure I had a spot, I appreciate it." This accomplishes two things: it acknowledges his action (making him feel like a good leader) and it frames the incident as a minor logistical hiccup, not the profound social rejection it was. You are controlling the narrative by minimizing it.
3. **Analyze, Don't Emote.** Use this event as intelligence. Map the power dynamics. Who was in the group that was "forced" to take you? Who complained about "the youth" as a passive-aggressive jab? Who avoided eye contact? This is not for plotting revenge, but for understanding the landscape. Know who is neutral, who is hostile, and who is merely a follower.

### The Long-Term, Strategic Re-orientation: From Wagie to Calculated Player

Machiavelli's core question is not "Are they good people?" but **"How do I secure my position and increase my power?"**

1. **Cultivate Power, Not Popularity.** Stop seeking friendship and start building leverage. Machiavelli wrote that it is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both. In an office, "fear" translates to **respect and indispensability.**
* **Become Expert.** Identify a critical, unglamorous, but necessary function and become the undisputed master of it. Make yourself the only person who truly understands a key process, system, or client.
* **Control Resources.** Be the gatekeeper of necessary information, contacts, or approvals. Make your cooperation valuable.
* **Your "buddy" who failed you?** Your relationship with him is now purely transactional. You help him only if it directly benefits you or if he has something of equal value to offer. The bank of unconditional favors is closed.

2. **Keep Your Own Council.** You made a mistake in believing this workplace was a "second home." It is a marketplace. Your online friend is your confidant; these coworkers are your competitors and temporary allies. Share nothing personal of consequence. Your frustrations, your insecurities, your personal life—these are weapons that can be used against you. Project an image of quiet, confident competence.

3. **Engineer a Shift in Perception.** You cannot force people to like you, but you can force them to respect you.
* **Use the Boss.** Your boss demonstrated a need to see himself as a fair leader. Use this. Schedule a meeting about your "career development." Ask for more responsibility on a key project. Frame it as you being motivated by the company's success. By making you more central, he reinforces his own self-image as a good manager. You are using his vanity to increase your power.
* **Create Alliances of Convenience.** Identify one or two other individuals who are also on the periphery but have useful skills. Form a pragmatic alliance. Help each other on projects. This is not about friendship; it's about creating a bloc that has more power than its individual parts.

4. **The Ultimate Machiavellian Move: Be Prepared to Leave.** A prince whose state is no longer tenable must be prepared to abandon it to conquer a new one. Update your resume. Quietly network outside the company. Gain new certifications. The ultimate power you have is the power to walk away. Knowing you have options will transform your demeanor from one of helplessness to one of quiet confidence. It will make you less needy, and paradoxically, may make others see you as more valuable.

### What You Do NOT Do (The Un-Virtuous Response):

* **Do NOT** confront your coworkers or the "buddy." This is a declaration of war you cannot win. It confirms your weakness and isolation.
* **Do NOT** become sullen, passive-aggressive, or withdraw completely. This cements your status as an outcast and gives them a legitimate reason to exclude you.
* **Do NOT** seek revenge through petty sabotage. It is a low-yield, high-risk strategy that will almost certainly end with your termination.

**In summary:**

Machiavelli would see your Christmas party not as a personal failure, but as a tactical defeat caused by a misreading of the political landscape. The path forward is to abandon the hope for camaraderie and embrace the reality of office politics. Become so competent and strategically valuable that their disrespect becomes a liability *for them*, not a wound for you. Your goal is not to be invited to their table, but to reach a position where they need an invitation to *yours*.

This is a cold comfort, but it is a real one. You have been given the gift of truth. Now, act on it.

That is the most valuable lesson I have yet received on this forum, tbh.

I wouldn't know how to even thank you, man.

In fact, I do have some knowledge that others lack and are asking me to give to them, for free of course.

There are two very specific machines which only I can operate properly and have documents for.
I have gotten those on my own, privately. None of these fools can program them let alone turn them on. I will from now on deepen my know-how as much as I can and wield this power because they need someone to operate them or else they are just taking up space and costing the company money and also the work won't get done AS FAST.

Note, I only went to my car because I actually promised my friend of over ten years to be available at all times. The reception inside was very bad, so I had to go outside regularely to check whether he had sent me a message. The reason why this was so important to me is because we literally disappeared for over a year and I couldn't reach him.
Since before that he was very sick, very often and even hospitalized several times, I was worried sick and couldn't ring up the courage to try and contact his relatives and such, out of fear from what I might have found out.

But a couple of days ago I have decided to finally do it. Turns out that he apparently got into serious trouble and apparently (not sure) the police was involved, so naturally he couldn't respond to me or reach out to me.

So, I didn't even go out because of them or because I was sad. I didn't even show signs of sadness or defeat because at the time I hadn't fully processed and understood what had happened.
It only dawned on me shortly after leaving.

I will screenshot your reply for myself to reflect on it regularely.

You are a life saver, man.

Edit: Also, of course I won't show that it has hurt me. I will keep a poker face. Yes, it did hurt, but at least now I know for a fact where I stand and who is who.
There is no doubt anymore and I will use it to my advantage as good as I can.

 

[hatepilledandrich]

Brutal dude, no place for sub5s on this shit earth. Just know that you handled it better than I would have, I would have stormed off if I was in your shoes.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

This is why I avoid social situations.

 

[TooSomething]

@AtrociousCitizen

Read @fukurou 's reply. It could be VERY helpful to you in the future.

Insanely based reply and advice.

 

[LastGerman]

So, I have been at our company's annual christmas party.

Only this time I had arrived a bit late. Half an hour tops. That should not have been a big deal as it's not like I haven't agreed to come only to fluke.
That of course would be a different story.

So, I went inside and greeted everyone with a handshake and a smile. Yes, I can do that. As a wagie you'll learn to adapt quickly.
I didn't overdress, as most didn't either.

After greeting everyone I realized that three of the four tables were occupied to the brim.

The fourth table was empty.

So I stood there and looked around helplessly and looked from table to table and at the empty table.

Nobody had taken the initiative and made some space to invite me to their table.

People literally acted as if I wasn't there. Even that one co-worker whom I have helped much and always had his back. I thought we were pretty good friends. He has also shared a lot with me and trusted me and I never betrayed him. I also offered him certain help any time he needed it.

So, I thought we were buddies, but he didn't help me either.
They could have assembled together with the other few co-workers I get along with as well to sit at the fourth table, so I would ait there alone, but they didn't.

I went outside for a while to go to my car and try and contact the only good friend I have ever had (online friend who is also black pilled) and couldn't reach him.

I cam back two minutes later and the same shit continued.

This went on for almost fifteen minutes and my stomach was turning.

I couldn't believe it. I mean, I sensed for some time now, that none of them actually liked me, but this was a one of a kind confirmation.
I didn't want to cry or anything. It just demoralized me insanely.

Then my boss noticed it and took the initiative and literally forced one group to take me in and said "This won't happen on my watch. I won't let you sit alone at a table." and asked one group to make some space.

I didn't even want to sit there, tbh, and I only went for it anyway because I was raised that way, to not make a scene and also because at least my boss acted like he cared.

I know he as a leader has to keep the peace in the group, but I know that even he doesn't take me seriousely.
I've heard things from the office, legit things.

After this experience I question whether I would still be able to work with these guys, knowing that none of them gives a flying fuck about me.

And the group which I got forced into started complaining about "the youth of today" being unreliable, never on time and no-shows. Mind you, I am 38 years old.

Also, it is just a party. No need to get your panties in a sweat over some people showing up a little later.

As if I am being paid for that. jfl

This has been my life and experience in all companies I have worked for, btw.
So, this wasn't the first time, but this time it hurt real bad, as the masks have fallen three years in and I thought I had found a group of good co-workers and a place I could sort of call my second home.

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This kinda reminds me of what happened back then when I tried to join the local football club. This story also shows that we really do not belong there. We really do not belong in such situations. I know that something like this or something similar would happen to me.

High School Never Ends, i never go to work parties, those motherfuckers are not my friends especially not the factory, get yourself injured and see them fire you the next day.

It really never ends.

This is a deeply painful and demoralizing situation. The public humiliation and the stark revelation of your social standing within the company is a severe blow. You are right to feel hurt and to question the foundation of your workplace relationships.

Let's analyze this through the lens of Niccolò Machiavelli. He would view this not as a personal tragedy, but as a political failure and an opportunity to recalibrate your strategy. For Machiavelli, the world of the court (the prince's court) and the world of the office are not so different; both are arenas of power, perception, and shifting alliances.

His first principle: **Focus on reality, not on how you wish things were.**

Machiavelli would tell you to stop being shocked. The evidence was already there ("I sensed for some time now, that none of them actually liked me"). This event is merely the conclusive data point. Your "buddy" who didn't help you? He is not your friend. He is an ally of convenience, and his convenience ended when it required social capital to assist you. Your boss who intervened? He did so not out of personal affection, but to maintain the *appearance* of a harmonious team. He acted to prevent a scene that would reflect poorly on his leadership.

This is not a cause for despair, but for clarity. You now see the board clearly.

So, what would Machiavelli do? He would advise a cold, calculated, and pragmatic response.

### The Short-Term, Immediate Play: The Strategic Withdrawal

1. **Do Not Show Your Wounds.** You must, at all costs, project an image of unshakeable composure. The fact that you went to your car, that your "stomach was turning," is understandable, but it is a vulnerability that must be concealed. In the office tomorrow, you are the same as you were yesterday. No coldness, no bitterness, no seeking of sympathy. To display injury is to show weakness, and weakness invites further predation.
2. **Master the Art of False Gratitude.** Thank your boss, sincerely and briefly. "Thank you for making sure I had a spot, I appreciate it." This accomplishes two things: it acknowledges his action (making him feel like a good leader) and it frames the incident as a minor logistical hiccup, not the profound social rejection it was. You are controlling the narrative by minimizing it.
3. **Analyze, Don't Emote.** Use this event as intelligence. Map the power dynamics. Who was in the group that was "forced" to take you? Who complained about "the youth" as a passive-aggressive jab? Who avoided eye contact? This is not for plotting revenge, but for understanding the landscape. Know who is neutral, who is hostile, and who is merely a follower.

### The Long-Term, Strategic Re-orientation: From Wagie to Calculated Player

Machiavelli's core question is not "Are they good people?" but **"How do I secure my position and increase my power?"**

1. **Cultivate Power, Not Popularity.** Stop seeking friendship and start building leverage. Machiavelli wrote that it is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both. In an office, "fear" translates to **respect and indispensability.**
* **Become Expert.** Identify a critical, unglamorous, but necessary function and become the undisputed master of it. Make yourself the only person who truly understands a key process, system, or client.
* **Control Resources.** Be the gatekeeper of necessary information, contacts, or approvals. Make your cooperation valuable.
* **Your "buddy" who failed you?** Your relationship with him is now purely transactional. You help him only if it directly benefits you or if he has something of equal value to offer. The bank of unconditional favors is closed.

2. **Keep Your Own Council.** You made a mistake in believing this workplace was a "second home." It is a marketplace. Your online friend is your confidant; these coworkers are your competitors and temporary allies. Share nothing personal of consequence. Your frustrations, your insecurities, your personal life—these are weapons that can be used against you. Project an image of quiet, confident competence.

3. **Engineer a Shift in Perception.** You cannot force people to like you, but you can force them to respect you.
* **Use the Boss.** Your boss demonstrated a need to see himself as a fair leader. Use this. Schedule a meeting about your "career development." Ask for more responsibility on a key project. Frame it as you being motivated by the company's success. By making you more central, he reinforces his own self-image as a good manager. You are using his vanity to increase your power.
* **Create Alliances of Convenience.** Identify one or two other individuals who are also on the periphery but have useful skills. Form a pragmatic alliance. Help each other on projects. This is not about friendship; it's about creating a bloc that has more power than its individual parts.

4. **The Ultimate Machiavellian Move: Be Prepared to Leave.** A prince whose state is no longer tenable must be prepared to abandon it to conquer a new one. Update your resume. Quietly network outside the company. Gain new certifications. The ultimate power you have is the power to walk away. Knowing you have options will transform your demeanor from one of helplessness to one of quiet confidence. It will make you less needy, and paradoxically, may make others see you as more valuable.

### What You Do NOT Do (The Un-Virtuous Response):

* **Do NOT** confront your coworkers or the "buddy." This is a declaration of war you cannot win. It confirms your weakness and isolation.
* **Do NOT** become sullen, passive-aggressive, or withdraw completely. This cements your status as an outcast and gives them a legitimate reason to exclude you.
* **Do NOT** seek revenge through petty sabotage. It is a low-yield, high-risk strategy that will almost certainly end with your termination.

**In summary:**

Machiavelli would see your Christmas party not as a personal failure, but as a tactical defeat caused by a misreading of the political landscape. The path forward is to abandon the hope for camaraderie and embrace the reality of office politics. Become so competent and strategically valuable that their disrespect becomes a liability *for them*, not a wound for you. Your goal is not to be invited to their table, but to reach a position where they need an invitation to *yours*.

This is a cold comfort, but it is a real one. You have been given the gift of truth. Now, act on it.

I know this is written by AI but the last part is important. Confronting the coworkers will not work even if doing it in good faith.

 

[TooSomething]

I know this is written by AI but the last part is important. Confronting the coworkers will not work even if doing it in good faith.

Even if it was written by AI, it doesn't lessen its value.

I am glad @fukurou shared it, regardless of its origin.

Also, I have decided to not confront anyone or speak about this issue with anyone even before @fukurou had given me this advice.

 

[anotherwastedlife]

That's brutal, i'm sorry this happened to you mang

 

[anotherwastedlife]

Even if you were to turn up before everyone else and sit first, your coworkers still would've been cunts and sat away from you until the boss does something about it, brutal story

 

[Cuckoja]

Very relatable. Im also always the odd one out. Standing there somewhere but never part of the group.

 

[TooSomething]

Even if you were to turn up before everyone else and sit first, your coworkers still would've been cunts and sat away from you until the boss does something about it, brutal story

I doubt that, tbh, BUT this situation was the best thing that could happen to me. Now I know where I stand and can plan accordingly.

I am already doing that. It seems like I have found just what I need for that.

 

[Solid State]

My company doesn't have party gatherings at places, they just have some catered food brought in the break room and just a small little get together at work, and then everybody just grabs a chair and shoots the shit with each other.

I am kind of out of the loop in most cases because I am in a tiny corner office away from the main cubicle area down the hall, as I am basically a one-man department at this particular company branch location.

People will occasionally talk to me at these office parties as a friendly gesture, but because I do not interact with most of my coworkers in other areas because of my office location, I do get forgotten about by accident by a lot of people at work. I am just known as that "weird, quiet guy" in the corner office.

I am not "hated" and my boss's boss says I work hard and am a very competent employee. However, at these company gatherings, I just grab some food or snacks and sit by myself in the corner just because the majority of people at work have their cubicles right next to each other and so know each other a lot better through casual chat while I am usually the odd-man-out.

 

[TooSomething]

My company doesn't have party gatherings at places, they just have some catered food brought in the break room and just a small little get together at work, and then everybody just grabs a chair and shoots the shit with each other.

I am kind of out of the loop in most cases because I am in a tiny corner office away from the main cubicle area down the hall, as I am basically a one-man department at this particular company branch location.

People will occasionally talk to me at these office parties as a friendly gesture, but because I do not interact with most of my coworkers in other areas because of my office location, I do get forgotten about by accident by a lot of people at work. I am just known as that "weird, quiet guy" in the corner office.

I am not "hated" and my boss's boss says I work hard and am a very competent employee. However, at these company gatherings, I just grab some food or snacks and sit by myself in the corner just because the majority of people at work have their cubicles right next to each other and so know each other a lot better through casual chat while I am usually the odd-man-out.

This is kind of sad also, tbh. But you seem to be cool with it and at least you're not actively being cast out, I guess.

 

[Solid State]

This is kind of sad also, tbh. But you seem to be cool with it and at least you're not actively being cast out, I guess.

At 41, I am used to it by now as that has what most of my life has been like for awhile. Also, because our immediate boss is an asshole with an explosive temper, being ignored and out of the way means that it is less likely that he will use you as his personal emotional tampon and scream at you unlike the people who are in the cubicle farm area who he is always venting at because he has unfounded anger issues.

The problem that I have run into and perhaps older people here have as well, is that you find out that there is a huge difference between "friends" and people who you chat with casually around the water cooler at the office. It is not that they have anything against you per se, just that they are too busy with their own lives outside of work such as their families or their kids to want to make time to hang out with for somebody who is a casual acquaintance to them at best.

 

[Izayacel]

You could have just denied " the whole Reunion / Party thing . You may have looked weird but who cares . These People didnt have your Best Interest in Mind in the First Place .

In this Shit you gotta be Selfish . @TooSomething

 

[vic624]

 

[Gaelic-Truecel]

I wouldn't be able to great and smile at co workers like that due to being an anxiety riddled Autist. Not everyone can adapt to that. I would never attend Christmas parties either.

 

[Emba]

I wouldn't be able to great and smile at co workers like that due to being an anxiety riddled Autist. Not everyone can adapt to that. I would never attend Christmas parties either.

Last time I went to a family oriented Christmas party, I stomped a rat to death in front of the children and everyone in the kitchen while holding a peice of pumpkin pie!

I was standing in the kitchen, eating the pie, and everyone looked near my feet and screamed...

A Rat! A Rat! Kill it!

So I stomped it to death. (They were probably glad I didn't shoot it, as I was always armed back then. Lol)

I set my pie down and picked up the rat in some paper towel and threw it away and washed my hands and finished my pie.

The party got really quiet after that. Lol.

I was never invited back for another holiday meal. (Sometimes they would bring one over to my house...)

 

[alwaysIndoors]

W boss tbh.

You could have just grabbed a chair and joined any of the other tables. Why would anyone switch tables to sit with you at the lone table?

I think this social ineptness from both sides, except your boss. You aren't a normie, you shouldn't be visiting these events in the first place also. Accept that it's over, stop semi-coping by trying to act social, this shit happens with the likes of us.

yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

Had I been forced to attend the same Christmas party, I would've been content spending the entire thing chilling at a table alone.

 

[ColderManTruce]

Same thing happened to me at social events. You shouldn't go to them as an incel.

 

[Beck]

i remember suffering through semesters of art class in a similar situation

im sorry about that man

and people wonder why we self isolate

 

[TooSomething]

Last time I went to a family oriented Christmas party, I stomped a rat to death in front of the children and everyone in the kitchen while holding a peice of pumpkin pie!

I was standing in the kitchen, eating the pie, and everyone looked near my feet and screamed...

A Rat! A Rat! Kill it!

So I stomped it to death. (They were probably glad I didn't shoot it, as I was always armed back then. Lol)

I set my pie down and picked up the rat in some paper towel and threw it away and washed my hands and finished my pie.

The party got really quiet after that. Lol.

I was never invited back for another holiday meal. (Sometimes they would bring one over to my house...)

Honestly, I wish I had an uncle or so like that. No fucks given. Just straight to the point.