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RageFuel God believers are ridiculous

His argument is extremely childish and driven by sentiment, all he’s saying boils down to “God’s not real because unfortunate people exist and I’m among them”. Life as a subhuman is a great test of faith and everything that happens here is transient, only death is permanent.
You can call this bluepilled or whatever but in a society that lives strictly by religion incels would suffer far less than they do now, the fault lies within the people (Namely chads normies and stacies) who’ve strayed far from those teachings, not within religion or God.
I won’t bother delving further into my beliefs since it seems users here are extremely stubborn and unshaken in their denial.
just say that you are an underage kid who does not know any better.

"living strictly by religion" you would complain if that ever happened for sure.

Guess who ruled during the dark ages in Europe. It was the church.

There was no advanced medicine, people were dirty as fuck , they did not let smart people to get involved in any way whatsoever because they lived by God's teachings and words.

Any opinion which condemned the hypocrisy of the church was punished by death.

Priests were feasting every single day and were usually overweight meanwhile the peasants were starving , yet feasting is a sin in Christianity.

By living strictly under religion I honestly interpret that you want the church gaining power again and I just told you why that would be a terrible idea.

Now fuck off to tiktok with the other tradcucks and stop embarrassing yourself, kid.
 
Religion is just cope and brainwash for less unfortunate people. I've never met a christian who was free of disease and perfectly healthy and i work in the church. Most people working as priests or w/e do it for the money, it pays good. Even the arch bishop in my country invests in stocks and brags about it on the news, but the bible says money is the root of all evil. Alot of priests are also homosexuals, so very few of the christians today actually follow the bible.
That's true. A lot of people start believing in God when they are on the verge of dying or know that their time is soon coming or if someone they love is in a critical condition with not a lot of hope to recover. If they somehow recover they say that It was God's miracle and not the hard working doctors that helped the person live again.

Without the doctors just prayers are not enough guess what'll happen if you relied solely on prayers, well you know they won't help at all and you will just die.

The closest thing to a God would be the doctors that save your life , they are true saviors prayers will get you nowhere , but normies are incredibly stupid.

During the time when the church had true power over everyone the mortality rates were over 50% and they all "prayed" for the recovery of their loved ones but you can tell that didn't work since the mortality rates were that high.

However the mortality rates declined rapidly and still are to this day thanks to the advanced medicine and mostly thanks to the church losing power.
 
How the fuck can you believe in God when he personally made me a dickcel, short , low IQ and ugly I bet it's the same with most users on here yet there are a lot of people who believe in God.

Now a lot of you are probably going to say "muh it was not God that made you ugly, it was your parents :soy: ", however both the Bible and Quran promotes having a lot of children despite how subhuman you look. Those considered holy books by many are the definition of the bluepill , it does not teach you the importance of genetics.

It promotes the birth of undesirable incel subhumans who are going to suffer because of their selfish parents. Those books are BULLSHIT and if you believe in either of them you are NOT blackpilled.

"We are all humans and were created in God's image bro!" Sure brother while you were born an inferior subhuman who lost everything in the genetic lottery there are 6'3 blonde CHADs with 12 inch dicks who don't even have to try and get foids meanwhile you rot and everyone treats you like shit because you are ugly and undesirable.

One more argument that religionfags use: "Bro if foids truly believed in a certain religion then we would all get laid" This is complete nonsense.

Even if the foid is religious she is still going to cheat on a subhuman with someone who's much better looking than him and throughout the years when women were supposedly trad it happened all the fucking time.

I believe only in the one and only truth that is called "Natural Selection". You are either born handsome, tall, superior who gets to mate with any foid you please or a short , ugly, balding subhuman who would definitely die if we never evolved to live peacefully in cities and not in the wild.

It is much more logical for CHADs to believe in God because they are truly the God's chosen, but nah it's mostly subhumans who cope with religion and expect some kind of a reward for being a good goy in the muh afterlife.

Ban all bible and quran thumpers , they are bluepilled and may as well fuck off to reddit.

@juche necromancer , @Ci Jey , @DarkStarDown , @ElTruecel , @Friezacel
God is real, religion is good.

I've personally accepted the Supreme Gentleman as my personal savior, and I practice Marxism-Rodgerism as a political religion (or civic cult).

That said,

Cosplaying / LARPING as a 4th century goat rancher from the desert and quoting a literal interpretation of some translation of the translation of the translation of a 5000 years-old book is cringe and fake beyond compare when you can't even comprehend an 18th century english cookbook.

Obviously those old religious books and traditions contain timeless wisdom of their time. Human nature didn't change. But any old book also contains anachronisms and imprecise language.

This is why we must, first and foremost, study HUMAN NATURE, that is: the blackpill. In light of the blackpill, that is: the set of facts we know of nature, we can and must obviously expound towards ethical, aesthetical, mystical, ritualistic, scientific, ideological, political, etc. knowledge.

A religion frozen in time is a history remnant, not useful for us (except as a tool to study on eras gone by).

We must renew our religion, Marxism-Rodgerism, every day adding every bit of new knowledge and facts. The holiest ritual is acquiring knowledge of the truth, and accepting it, and using it to improve out life. Jesus said "I am the truth, the way, and the life", and truer words were never said. We must keep ever going the way of truth and life, not the way of old books.

A holy ritual, place, person, is holy only as long as it agrees with facts and truths. LARPing, gaslighting and self-delusion is of no use to us.
 
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ok? None of you actually provided any proof of God's existence.
Eh. Not having a theological debate on .IS.
None of you would know that we live on a round and not a flat planet.
Actually, the Quran mentions the Earth as a sphere. :society:
But it was a mix of philosophers and religious scholars who established the ceoncept of a spherical Earth.

Religion doesn't forbid studying and observing the world around us;

The work of scholars like Al-Khwarizmi, who is considered the father of algebra, was deeply influenced by their religious context. His book "Kitab al-Jabr wal-Muqabala" introduced algebraic concepts that are fundamental to modern mathematics.

An Augustinian monk, Gregor Mendel's work on pea plants laid the foundation for the field of genetics. Jesuits were instrumental in the scientific revolution of the 17th century, and contributed to various fields such as astronomy, physics, and biology. Notable Jesuit scientists include Matteo Ricci and Athanasius Kircher.

A Belgian Catholic priest, Georges Lemaître proposed the theory of the expansion of the universe, which later became known as the Big Bang Theory.


And many more examples!
Of course those people were punished by the church and thought of as heretics.

The church have always been in the wrong because they wanted power over the peasants.

They would've never let a smart person expose the truth and enlighten the people otherwise the church loses power.
Good thing I'm not Christiancell. :feelsohh:
The State and 'Church' being separated isn't peak-thinking. The State is just another form of authority that lacks a strong moral sense and act as shadowy projectiles for Jewish Oligarchs.
There is no progress with religion my man you can thank the atheists for being able to critically think and provide you with information.
Being able to think critically is innate in all high-functional humans. Don't conflate truth and information and Atheism. And anyways, the Gregorian Calendar was invented by the Catholic Church, assigned by Pope Gregory. But atheists seem to have a desire to take away any credit from religion.
The reason why we live comfy now is because of the inventors who were capable of doing change, not the docile religioustards who were taught to be NPCs with nothing to contribute to this world.
Okay. What did you invent and contribute to the world?
 
Guess who ruled during the dark ages in Europe. It was the church.

There was no advanced medicine, people were dirty as fuck , they did not let smart people to get involved in any way whatsoever because they lived by God's teachings and words.

Any opinion which condemned the hypocrisy of the church was punished by death.

Priests were feasting every single day and were usually overweight meanwhile the peasants were starving , yet feasting is a sin in Christianity.

By living strictly under religion I honestly interpret that you want the church gaining power again and I just told you why that would be a terrible idea.
Some historians and scholars have viewed the Church's dominance as oppressive and inhibiting to scientific and intellectual progress, though this is a contentious viewpoint.
@Incel Rap Genius - Hey man. As a Christian, what do you think?
 
Religion is just cope and brainwash for less unfortunate people. I've never met a christian who was free of disease and perfectly healthy and i work in the church. Most people working as priests or w/e do it for the money, it pays good. Even the arch bishop in my country invests in stocks and brags about it on the news, but the bible says money is the root of all evil. Alot of priests are also homosexuals, so very few of the christians today actually follow the bible.
This. Religion is essentially just a tool used to control people
 
they lived by God's teachings and words.
Priests were feasting every single day and were usually overweight meanwhile the peasants were starving , yet feasting is a sin in Christianity.
Try again, but no contradictions this time.
And I'm not Christian for the record.
You're literally younger than me JFL :feelshaha: stop coping, you're not anyone's intellectual superior.
All your rhetoric matches word for word with reddit cucks.
 
Eh. Not having a theological debate on .IS.

Actually, the Quran mentions the Earth as a sphere. :society:
But it was a mix of philosophers and religious scholars who established the ceoncept of a spherical Earth.

Religion doesn't forbid studying and observing the world around us;

The work of scholars like Al-Khwarizmi, who is considered the father of algebra, was deeply influenced by their religious context. His book "Kitab al-Jabr wal-Muqabala" introduced algebraic concepts that are fundamental to modern mathematics.

An Augustinian monk, Gregor Mendel's work on pea plants laid the foundation for the field of genetics. Jesuits were instrumental in the scientific revolution of the 17th century, and contributed to various fields such as astronomy, physics, and biology. Notable Jesuit scientists include Matteo Ricci and Athanasius Kircher.

A Belgian Catholic priest, Georges Lemaître proposed the theory of the expansion of the universe, which later became known as the Big Bang Theory.


And many more examples!

Good thing I'm not Christiancell. :feelsohh:
The State and 'Church' being separated isn't peak-thinking. The State is just another form of authority that lacks a strong moral sense and act as shadowy projectiles for Jewish Oligarchs.

Being able to think critically is innate in all high-functional humans. Don't conflate truth and information and Atheism. And anyways, the Gregorian Calendar was invented by the Catholic Church, assigned by Pope Gregory. But atheists seem to have a desire to take away any credit from religion.

Okay. What did you invent and contribute to the world?
Oh, so you are a muzzie which is even worse. You are an incel right ? You can go ahead and release your lust with a goat that's all I needed to hear.

Also what about the splitting of the moon did that happen ? Nah.

What about the black stone you fucking closeted homosexuals worship and kiss. It supposedly is an asteroid , but muslimfags don't let scientists research and find out what it truly is because they are scared of it actually being an asteroid and not an angel stone according to the Quran.

The sole fact you're a muzzie is disgusting, gross, dirty.

I don't hate christians, but you muzzies are disgusting inbred creatures that pollute this world and no one wants you around them because all you do is disturb others and force your fucked up culture on others.

"Thanks god i'm not a christcel" then proceeds to say that he is a dirty muzzie.

@DarkStarDown
 
why the hell do muslim countries have the most inbred people out of any other place in the world ?

Why is it allowed to marry your own cousin ?

Is that not wrong ? You know how bad it turns out when you have kids with your cousin right ?

Your religion supports inbreeding and that's disgusting, you are filthy. @DeliriousMerchant
 
You are an incel right ?
Don't need to ask that.
You can go ahead and release your lust with a goat that's all I needed to hear.
You first. Or maybe fuck a toaster. Godless Atheist.
Also what about the splitting of the moon did that happen ? Nah.
JFL. Yes, miracles can happen.
What about the black stone you fucking closeted homosexuals worship and kiss.
Nobody worships it but I don't need to say that. Just another RETARD who hates the spread of Islam.

It supposedly is an asteroid , but muslimfags don't let scientists research and find out what it truly is because they are scared of it actually being an asteroid and not an angel stone according to the Quran.
It came down from HEAVEN, inky. :society:
no one wants you around them because all you do is disturb others and force your fucked up culture on others.
When the world is corrupted with sin and evil, those who speak against it will be deemed the unrighteous ones.
No gambling. No pornography. No interest. No Jewish Overlords. No Adultery. No Secularism. God's earth, God's law.
"Thanks god i'm not a christcel" then proceeds to say that he is a dirty muzzie.
Islam in it's majesty is more impressive and adept for the world than Christianity. That is the truth.
 
Guess who ruled during the dark ages in Europe. It was the church.

There was no advanced medicine, people were dirty as fuck , they did not let smart people to get involved in any way whatsoever because they lived by God's teachings and words.

Any opinion which condemned the hypocrisy of the church was punished by death.

Priests were feasting every single day and were usually overweight meanwhile the peasants were starving , yet feasting is a sin in Christianity.
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Incel Rap Genius
@Incel Rap Genius - Hey man. As a Christian, what do you think?
The Catholic Church founded the modern university and supported science in very important ways via funding and encouraging scientists to explore their environment. An example brought up by many people as evidence of the CC's hatred of science is the imprisonment of Galileo. Galileo was under house arrest for teaching theological heresy, not because of his heliocentrism. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. I don't like institutional Christiantiy either but the Catholic Chuch gets shit on for the wrong reasons. Their shitty latinate translation of the Greek language scriptures contains so many mistranslated ideas, words, and concepts that they've perverted the gospel and impugned the character of GOd through their so-called infallible declaration of the eternal nature of hell. Shit on the catholic church for their bad theology, not their social function; the Catholic Church did much to help science, the arts, etc. throughout the early centuries of the church, the medieval ages, even up to today.
 
why the hell do muslim countries have the most inbred people out of any other place in the world ?
Yes, that may be true, but consider this.

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Why the hell do muslim countries have the lowest crime rates out of any other place in the world? I thought religion brought muhh corruption and dark ages? Aren't muzzies dirty barbaric terrorists?

Don't waste your time replying I won't read your shitty brainrot posts. Your morals are arbitrary and man-made. You think mass-killings and school shootings are based, but cousin marriage is where you draw the line?
 
You're literally younger than me JFL :feelshaha: stop coping, you're not anyone's intellectual superior.
All your rhetoric matches word for word with reddit cucks.
I thought you were a chill user jfl.
Yes, that may be true, but consider this.

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Why the hell do muslim countries have the lowest crime rates out of any other place in the world? I thought religion brought muhh corruption and dark ages? Aren't muzzies dirty barbaric terrorists?
You do realize that perhaps one aspect of the religion can be good, yet another may not be?
Don't waste your time replying I won't read your shitty brainrot posts.
Again, thought you were better than this: Also, he actually at least created a good argument here as opposed to tons of others who just posted "god is real because he is!"
Your morals are arbitrary and man-made.
Many of these morals align with the law of nature, which is hardly man-made.
You think mass-killings and school shootings are based,
Because they are? It's a statement made by an individual in response to the insanity which society is breeding.

@AsiaCel
but cousin marriage is where you draw the line?
Because it can cause massive genetic issues?
 
Why is it allowed to marry your own cousin ?

Is that not wrong ? You know how bad it turns out when you have kids with your cousin right ?
It's not instantaneous. A generation is fine. Anyways...you don't get to tell me what's wrong or disgusting.

>Claims _ from/about Islam|Quran is wrong and disgusting.
>Is an Atheist

"It's not wrong because God said so. What God says is ALWAYS RIGHT. You're wrong for going AGAINST God." :society: End of conversation.
If you're unhappy, then you need to debunk Islam itself to render what it says as wrong.
 
He’s also implying there’s a chance he’d believe in God if he had better genetics, which is selfish at best and hypocritical at worst
Im not trying to get involved in this fight but this is something you can actually observe a lot of in the real world.

People who have blessed lives are more likely to believe a loving god exists, because why wouldnt they. For example my mom - she has never been through any trials or tribulations in her life and has had a very easy and blesses life and she is 10000% certain that the bible is the unquestionable truth of the universe

On the other hand look at returning veterans or homeless people. They have suffered so much that they often find it difficult to believe there could be a loving god. Countless have stories of them losing faith.

Me personally, i used to be extremely devout up until i was 16 but as things got worse and as i got more depressed i faded away from faith. I kept asking questions that simply didn't have an answer. For example the infamous question about evil existing - The only "answer" i ever get is "its Satan bro" but why would a loving god allow satan to torture gods children? .

I so badly want to go back to that nihilistic christian mindset of "it doesnt matter what happens in this world because my bullies will perish and i will prosper :feelsautistic::feelsaww::owo::owo::owo:" but i genuinely cant find a way to trick myself into feeling like god is loving.

Unlike many (or even most) people here i don't actually have anything against Christians, i have much respect for them because ive experienced personally that most of them are great people.

Anywho im on a side tangent but yes its definitely a phonemenon where people with good lives are more likely to stay with religion if they were raised with it, and those with bad lives are more likely to fall away.
 
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Yes, that may be true, but consider this.

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Why the hell do muslim countries have the lowest crime rates out of any other place in the world? I thought religion brought muhh corruption and dark ages? Aren't muzzies dirty barbaric terrorists?

Don't waste your time replying I won't read your shitty brainrot posts. Your morals are arbitrary and man-made. You think mass-killings and school shootings are based, but cousin marriage is where you draw the line?
retard, who does the crime in western europe dumb fucking faggot is it white people or the muzzies ? Retarded goat fucking scum.

If europe was an ethnostate there would be barely any crime. Pre-immigration there were low crime rates in literally every European country dumbass its always the minorities that do this shit.
 
tales from the schizophrenic mind of a pedophile who also enjoyed fucking goats and drinking camel piss.

Mohammed literally had schizophrenia dumbass , also you did not answer me about incest . Why the hell it is allowed ?

Any particular reason ? You know what incest leads to , yet you dodged this question like a pussy.
I answered the question, you cunt. Go suck your clitoris.
 
I answered the question, you cunt. Go suck your clitoris.
so incest is allowed despite it leading to deformities , lower iq it is even highly encouraged to fuck your cousin. It is a normalized thing within the muslim household , no one thinks it's wrong.

Also your prophet was a literal schizophrenic.

Apparently "God" told him to order his followers to slaughter every single dog in Mecca because they apparently were demons disguised as black dogs WHAT ?

I often see black dogs and they act just like any other dog out there.

He was a paranoid, schizophrenic retarded goat fucker who even advocated for beastiality in the Quran.

Also about the moon splitting thing and the rock you worship at Mecca. What a good way to dodge actual facts that completely debunk your religion.
 
Many of these morals align with the law of nature, which is hardly man-made.
Needs expanding on.
"Atheists haven't analysed their own morality and constructed a new, post-religion set of morals from first principles that they will adhere to for the rest of their lives. They adopt the morals of the dominant culture as a natural heuristic, which serve as efficient shortcuts."

I thought you were a chill user jfl.
My God. He just retaliated, and that was soft. The hell?
You do realize that perhaps one aspect of the religion can be good, yet another may not be?
Cool. Have @RealSchizo appeal to this, and then we can continue to discuss why you think _ is bad from Islam or Christianity.
The truth is the religious can just appeal to their objective morality. If you want to prove why _ in Islam is wrong, then you have to debunk the entirety of the Quran.
Because they are? It's a statement made by an individual in response to the insanity which society is breeding.
Cool. The Crocus City Hall attack was based? Made by an individual in response to the insanity which society is breeding.
2016 Berlin truck attack? 2016 Nice truck attack?

Because it can cause massive genetic issues?
One Generation doesn't.
 
Cool. The Crocus City Hall attack was based? Made by an individual in response to the insanity which society is breeding.
2016 Berlin truck attack? 2016 Nice truck attack?
It depends on the reason for it & motive.
One Generation doesn't.
It's a fact inbreeding causes tons of issues, especially over longer periods of time.
 
so incest is allowed despite it leading to deformities , lower iq it is even highly encouraged to fuck your cousin. It is a normalized thing within the muslim household , no one thinks it's wrong.
One Generation doesn't do anything, really. Generation after generation, while isn't specifically prohibited, is discouraged from my understanding. JFL, If I could, I would ascend with my cousin who's own family holds a lot of power in certain provinces in my country. Why wouldn't I want to connect our tribal dominance and grow our influence?

Apparently "God" told him to order his followers to slaughter every single dog in Mecca because they apparently were demons disguised as black dogs WHAT ?
Give me a source, redditfag.
Also about the moon splitting thing and the rock you worship at Mecca. What a good way to dodge actual facts that completely debunk your religion.
You didn't even reply to my thread about discoveries, bitch. Clearly, it's unbefitting of me to respond to your worthless shite.
Look at the difference of quality.

millions of men kiss
So, I'm committing incest because I kiss my mother's forehead who is kissed by my siblings, her mother, and my father theory.
@K1ng N0th1ng.

exchanging saliva with other men is completely fine.
@Fat Link ban this gAYcell for typing erotica.
 
Cool. Have @RealSchizo appeal to this, and then we can continue to discuss why you think _ is bad from Islam or Christianity.
what is the positive aspect of pisslam ? That it advocates for richfags having multiple wives to betabuxx or the worst one which says it's fine to practice bestiality and drink camel piss.
 
Give me a source, redditfag.

You didn't even reply to my thread about discoveries, bitch. Clearly, it's unbefitting of me to respond to your worthless shite.
Look at the difference of quality.


So, I'm committing incest because I kiss my mother's forehead who is kissed by my siblings, her mother, and my father theory.
@K1ng N0th1ng.


@Fat Link ban this gAYcell for typing erotica.
From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.
From Abu Dawud #2839

Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.
The Hadith's note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them.
From Muslim #3814

Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah's messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. ...[and for] for the protection of cultivated land.
From Muslim #Number 055

Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.
From Muslim #3813

Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah's messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah's apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.

2. Many studies turned out to be false or not exactly right. The moon splitting nonsense is enough that prophet mohammed was making up shit because he was clearly a schizophrenic.
 
How the fuck can you believe in God when he personally made me a dickcel, short , low IQ and ugly I bet it's the same with most users on here yet there are a lot of people who believe in God.

Now a lot of you are probably going to say "muh it was not God that made you ugly, it was your parents :soy: ", however both the Bible and Quran promotes having a lot of children despite how subhuman you look. Those considered holy books by many are the definition of the bluepill , it does not teach you the importance of genetics.

It promotes the birth of undesirable incel subhumans who are going to suffer because of their selfish parents. Those books are BULLSHIT and if you believe in either of them you are NOT blackpilled.

"We are all humans and were created in God's image bro!" Sure brother while you were born an inferior subhuman who lost everything in the genetic lottery there are 6'3 blonde CHADs with 12 inch dicks who don't even have to try and get foids meanwhile you rot and everyone treats you like shit because you are ugly and undesirable.

One more argument that religionfags use: "Bro if foids truly believed in a certain religion then we would all get laid" This is complete nonsense.

Even if the foid is religious she is still going to cheat on a subhuman with someone who's much better looking than him and throughout the years when women were supposedly trad it happened all the fucking time.

I believe only in the one and only truth that is called "Natural Selection". You are either born handsome, tall, superior who gets to mate with any foid you please or a short , ugly, balding subhuman who would definitely die if we never evolved to live peacefully in cities and not in the wild.

It is much more logical for CHADs to believe in God because they are truly the God's chosen, but nah it's mostly subhumans who cope with religion and expect some kind of a reward for being a good goy in the muh afterlife.

Ban all bible and quran thumpers , they are bluepilled and may as well fuck off to reddit.

@juche necromancer , @Ci Jey , @DarkStarDown , @ElTruecel , @Friezacel
The Quran states that the life of this world is nothing but amusement and play , so it is not important if we get no women.
 
Not true. Fuck off. You post like a curry.
I used to be interested in Islam myself. If I was a redditor and got my source from there I wouldn't have been interested in the first place since redditors are NPC's who say that islam is bad because it restricts women's rights.

I've watched numerous videos on islam itself, studying it I know a lot about it.

You yourself didnt know that prophet mohammed ordered the killing of all dogs , so you probably never read the Quran and get your information about your OWN religion from pro-islamic propagandists on the internet that twist the religion itself.
 
You yourself didnt know that prophet mohammed ordered the killing of all dogs , so you probably never read the Quran and get your information about your OWN religion from pro-islamic propagandists on the internet that twist the religion itself.
I don't. Anyways.
I've watched numerous videos on islam itself, studying it I know a lot about it.
JFL but you said bestiality was allowed?

You yourself didnt know that prophet mohammed ordered the killing of all dogs.
You gave me a few sources. I'll have to see if these were abrogated and the purpose behind them. I can contextualise but I don't want to spread lies. I'll respond in a few hours. Gotta go to MMA.
 
I don't. Anyways.

JFL but you said bestiality was allowed?


You gave me a few sources. I'll have to see if these were abrogated and the purpose behind them. I can contextualise but I don't want to spread lies. I'll respond in a few hours. Gotta go to MMA.
Why are you even entering a debate when you don't know your own religion jfl

He did indeed order the killing all dogs it is mentioned in the Quran and also dogs are still viewed negatively in present day islam.

Black dogs are still viewed as shaytans for some strange reason. Can't get more schizophrenic than this.

Also if a dog licked your hand you are supposed to wash yourself 7 times.

Islam is indeed oppressive towards dogs so it shouldn't come to you as a surprise that he did order the killing of all dogs in Mecca.

Also one more question: Are you living in the West or in your native country because you seem like a guy who lives in the West who does not know much since if you live in the West as a muslim you are a kaffir by default since it is prohibited to live in the kuffar's land as a muslim.

Moroccancel confirmed it, he is from Morocco.
 
I don't care if people are religious. It only becomes annoying when I constantly see it and they push it on me. THAT IS ANNOYING.
 
I was part of a religious group where one of the millionaire church leaders (just by coincidence all leadership roles went to rich cunts) worked in real estate and when a church member low level real estate normie said he was worried about finances the church leader just said, "god will work it out." Relaying the story the normie had a look of total cope where you could tell he wanted more out of the exchange but pretended a "blessing" was of some value.
That's actually hilarious, please tell me more about the geoup you were in
 
That's actually hilarious, please tell me more about the geoup you were in
Mainstream Mormons. I met a 50-something white cab driver once who was Mormon and his church role was doing the same low-level "activities coordination" they give to college students. Clearly being a cab driver shows he wasn't pious enough for leadership. :feelskek:
 
The Catholic Church founded the modern university and supported science in very important ways via funding and encouraging scientists to explore their environment. An example brought up by many people as evidence of the CC's hatred of science is the imprisonment of Galileo. Galileo was under house arrest for teaching theological heresy, not because of his heliocentrism. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. I don't like institutional Christiantiy either but the Catholic Chuch gets shit on for the wrong reasons. Their shitty latinate translation of the Greek language scriptures contains so many mistranslated ideas, words, and concepts that they've perverted the gospel and impugned the character of GOd through their so-called infallible declaration of the eternal nature of hell. Shit on the catholic church for their bad theology, not their social function; the Catholic Church did much to help science, the arts, etc. throughout the early centuries of the church, the medieval ages, even up to today.
The church definitely did hinder the progress of medicine.

The biggest issue for the peasants in the dark ages was the high mortality of the population.

They made dissection illegal which as you can guess made it harder to learn about anatomy.

There is a reason why historians say that living during the dark ages is most likely the worst time to ever be born in the entire human history.

I am not saying that they were complete retards incapable of even funding universities , but many great minds were prevented from achieving certain things that would benefit and ease the life of the peasants.

There were too many flaws, wrong grasps and negligence for important things.
 
@DeliriousMerchant i saw what you initially wrote when you deleted your post. It is obvious to me that you cannot really debunk any of my claims, since islam itself does not allow it and you will be sent to Jannah even if you tried to question your beliefs.

You cannot argue with a religious person since they are heavily dictated and directly influenced by their religious beliefs, so anything you say would be in vain.

I am ending it here the conclusions of this thread was to never try and reason with a religious person because they refuse to listen.

You may wonder yourself which claims ? The stone, moon splitting (you said it was a miracle and it actually happened meanwhile it did not)

Black dogs being seen as demons and the list goes on.

I won't reply further on.
 
Why are you even entering a debate when you don't know your own religion jfl
"I watched a few YouTube videos and now I know all ABOUT ISLAM! :soy:" JFL. You also said bestiality was allowed and Muslims worship the black stone. You don't know shit. You're probably a currycell.
He did indeed order the killing all dogs it is mentioned in the Quran and also dogs are still viewed negatively in present day islam.
JFL. Hadith is different to the Quran. It's not mentioned in the Quran. So you're projecting your ignorance on me. Stop getting excited.
Also if a dog licked your hand you are supposed to wash yourself 7 times.
Cool. Hygienic. You into dogs licking you? Dogpill confirmed?
Islam is indeed oppressive towards dogs so it shouldn't come to you as a surprise that he did order the killing of all dogs in Mecca.
redditors are NPC's who say that islam is bad because it restricts women's rights.
:feelskek: how the tables have turned.
Also one more question: Are you living in the West or in your native country because you seem like a guy who lives in the West who does not know much since if you live in the West as a muslim you are a kaffir by default since it is prohibited to live in the kuffar's land as a muslim.
"No, Patrick. Living amongst disbelievers in their land isn't major disbelief that puts one beyond the pale of Islam. It is obligatory to emigrate to 'Darul Islam', but Morocco isn't an example, neither are most, if not ALL modern Muslim-majority or Muslim-origin countries since they don't have Shari'a as their legislation but manmade-isms and schisms like Democracy, or appealing to the laws of the United Nations. Yes, extends to Saudi Arabia. This is a really nuanced topic to throw as a distraction point."

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"In fact, whilst on a military expedition to Mecca, he passed by a bitch laying in their path with her pups suckling from her. To prevent her from being harmed he ordered Juʿayl b. Suraqa to guard her lest any of the oncoming army disturb or harm them (Imtāʿ al-Asmāʿ, al-Muqrizi). Is this the action of someone who hated dogs? What’s more is that his grandson Hasan had a puppy, which he left under a bed in the house of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and grant him peace), which caused the angel Jibril to not enter (Abu Dawud)."

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I'll have to see if these were abrogated and the purpose behind them. I can contextualise but I don't want to spread lies.
"Imam al-Haramayn stated that the command to kill dogs was abrogated. It was related that the Prophet Muhammad (PNUH) ordered the killing of dogs. Then, that was abrogated, except for pure black dogs. And thereafter, killing any harmless dog was prohibited. Thus, it is only permissible to kill a dog that may cause harm, like one with rabies. (Sharh Sahih Muslim v. 3, p. 536 and v. 10, p. 1931)"

"As for the hadith of (Saheeh Muslim: Book 024, Hadith no. 5248) the order to kill the dogs were only within that precinct and not a general command. The command to kill dogs has been abrogated. (Read Imam Nawawi’s Sharh Saheeh Muslim, Kitab: Al Libaas wal Zeena, Bab: Tahreem Tasweer Soorat Al Haywaan wa Tahreem Itikhaazh ma feehi soora, Commentary on Hadith no. 3928.)"

"It is said that the killing of dogs in general was abrogated to killing only the black dogs and then it was abrogated to not killing any dogs whether it is black or not. Dogs could not be killed for no reason. (Read Imam Nawawi’s Sharh Saheeh Muslim, Kitab: Al Masaaqa, Bab: Al Amr bi qatl Al Kilaab wa bayaan naskhahu wa bayaan tahreem iqtenaa’iha, Commentary on Hadith no. 2934, Source) and (Read Muhammad Shams al-Haqq al-Adhim Abadi‘s Awn al-Mabud Sharh Sunan Abu Dawud, Kitab: Al Sayd, Bab: Fi Itikhaazh Al Kalb lil Sayd wa Ghayruh, Commentary on Hadith no. 2462, Source and Kitab: Al Libaas, Bab: Fi Al Suwar, Hadith no. 3626.)"


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@DeliriousMerchant i saw what you initially wrote when you deleted your post. It is obvious to me that you cannot really debunk any of my claims, since islam itself does not allow it and you will be sent to Jannah even if you tried to question your beliefs.
MF DOESN'T EVEN KNOW JANNAH IS HEAVEN JFL :society: Aside from that blunder, I debunked you, and you just skewered insulting lies in your specific responses. I wanted to add more context anyways, thus I deleted and re-sent it.
You may wonder yourself which claims ?
What are you talking about? Yes, I believe the moon split. Yes, I believe the stone came from heaven. Yes, I believe Jinns have the ability to take the forms of black dogs. Cope. I believe in miracles just as I believe in 'science'.
You cannot push me to change my identity. I know you thought you were unstoppable with your spergs, but most people do not go through a life-transformation from a single internet dialogue...especially one this redundant. This doesn't debunk Islam in anyway.

I won't reply further on.
Good.
 
It's crazy how many people unironically believe in "You may not have a great start in life but don't worry, Big Daddy In The Sky will help you feel better"
Religion is just cope and brainwash for less unfortunate people. I've never met a christian who was free of disease and perfectly healthy and i work in the church. Most people working as priests or w/e do it for the money, it pays good. Even the arch bishop in my country invests in stocks and brags about it on the news, but the bible says money is the root of all evil. Alot of priests are also homosexuals, so very few of the christians today actually follow the bible.
It is a cope for docile people who never question anything and indeed a tool to control the masses by saying that if you do a certain thing you end up in hell.

Fear mongering is the best way to control the goys.

People in the past had no actual information and were inclined to believe in God's existence however present day with the internet and the billion pages of information and studies I am surprised to find out how many users even here are religious and promote their bluepilled beliefs on us.
God doesn't have to be a good guy
Heil SATAN
 
MF DOESN'T EVEN KNOW JANNAH IS HEAVEN JFL :society: Aside from that blunder, I debunked you, and you just skewered insulting lies in your specific responses. I wanted to add more context anyways, thus I deleted and re-sent it.

What are you talking about? Yes, I believe the moon split. Yes, I believe the stone came from heaven. Yes, I believe Jinns have the ability to take the forms of black dogs. Cope. I believe in miracles just as I believe in 'science'.
You cannot push me to change my identity. I know you thought you were unstoppable with your spergs, but most people do not go through a life-transformation from a single internet dialogue...especially one this redundant. This doesn't debunk Islam in anyway.


Good.
yeah it is called jannaham. I don't really care either way. Also the dogpill joke you made I just want to inform you that I am neutral on dogs meaning neither do I own one as a pet, neither do I have any opinion whether negative or positive one I meant to tell you the stance islam has on dogs especially black dogs which are considered shaytans.
 
yeah it is called jannaham. I don't really care either way. Also the dogpill joke you made I just want to inform you that I am neutral on dogs meaning neither do I own one as a pet, neither do I have any opinion whether negative or positive one I meant to tell you the stance islam has on dogs especially black dogs which are considered shaytans.
Thank you for single-handedly trolling me better than anyone on this forum. You just ignored my whole debunk. Ima give you that same energy back too, kaffir.
 
MF DOESN'T EVEN KNOW JANNAH IS HEAVEN JFL :society: Aside from that blunder, I debunked you, and you just skewered insulting lies in your specific responses. I wanted to add more context anyways, thus I deleted and re-sent it.

What are you talking about? Yes, I believe the moon split. Yes, I believe the stone came from heaven. Yes, I believe Jinns have the ability to take the forms of black dogs. Cope. I believe in miracles just as I believe in 'science'.
You cannot push me to change my identity. I know you thought you were unstoppable with your spergs, but most people do not go through a life-transformation from a single internet dialogue...especially one this redundant. This doesn't debunk Islam in anyway.
I was not trying to make you quit your religion but provided information that debunk the entire religion and what it preaches. So you believe in miracles which are not confirmed. It still stays a "miracle" not an actual documented fact. Again they don't let scientist figure out what the stone truly is as it is assumed it's just an asteroid which I am inclined to believe because if they don't let them research it means they are hiding something or are afraid of finding out the truth.
 
I was not trying to make you quit your religion but provided information that debunk the entire religion and what it preaches. So you believe in miracles which are not confirmed. It still stays a "miracle" not an actual documented fact. Again they don't let scientist figure out what the stone truly is as it is assumed it's just an asteroid which I am inclined to believe because if they don't let them research it means they are hiding something or are afraid of finding out the truth.
Okay, you're making more sense here. We'll just have to agree to disagree since this is regarding MIRACLES.
Nobody is going to dismantle the Kaba for anything. Sorry. That's not happening.
What do you have to think of the linguistic miracles of the Quran and its preservation?
 

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