Totally understand what you mean.
But if they are able to get a girlfriend in the first place why are they cheating?
But if they are able to get a girlfriend in the first place why are they cheating?
Serious EVERY Guy I Know In Real Life That Pays For Sex Is A Normie With A Girlfriend (This Is Why Incels That REFUSE To Do It Confuse Me)
Men want variety, always have, always will
Monogamy was created so that there could be a relatively fair distribution of women as a resource among men, it was for the sake of stability in society. Men don't innately want to fuck just one woman their entire lives, were not naturally monogamous, people need to stop believing in this lie that has been spread for all these years. There's no point in continuing the lie anymore as the social contract has been broken, the point of the lie was to coerce men to go along with the rules, and men did because it benefited us
This is another reason why I would never get married, I prefer asian women, but I think all women are hot. I would never want to limit myself to one woman at this point in my life and in this kind of society. I want to fuck a petite asian on Monday, and a thick latina on Tuesday, and a slender white woman on Wednesday, and a thick dark as hell black woman on Thursday, etc, etc lol
That's why I'm wealthmaxxing, so I can have these options. There's no point in limiting yourself as an incel man after all the pleasures you have been denied in life. The social contract has been broken, you gain nothing by abiding by the old rules of monogamy that existed for the sole reason of controlling women as a resource
Would I have been willing to commit to just one woman in the past, yes, I would have been willing to make that sacrifice if I could get a virgin wife and had a dating life (sex excluded of course), but that's not the world we live in anymore, for me the gloves are coming off
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Are you sure? I mean you are saying that now but if you actually ascended you would cheat on a women?
I would never. You do not mean this surely. I would rather remain a virgin than cheat.
Ascension is a meme, its a raw deal, are there even any virgin women around anymore?
Like I just said:
I'd have no problem resisting tempation if I got a good deal, a woman worth resisting for, no such woman exists anymore so there's no point in playing by the old rules
Guys like you are like that guy who keeps using a character or build after it gets nerfed by the developer, but keeps complaining about losing
The "game" has been "updated", your old exploits and strategies don't work anymore, adapt or lose
You are deluded and underestimating your libido. A man sticking to one woman is a sacrifice, you don't realize that because you don't have any options (YET), if you had women throwing ass at you trying to fuck you while you were married (or you had money enough to pay to fuck virtually any woman you want) you would be tempted
Thinking having sex with the same woman everyday for decades won't get boring is like thinking you can eat your favorite food everyday for decades and not get tired of it, its a sacrifice that men in the past made because you were getting "quality goods"
Also because that woman preserved her virginity for you, YOU OWED HER YOUR COMMITMENT
No such deal exists anymore, again you aren't going to find a committed, feminine virgin wife anymore that's going to dedicate her life to you and give you children and maintain the home, you are going to get a woman that is trying to compete with you, who is masculine, believes bullshit feminist doctrine, and will probably cheat on you
But you go right ahead and keep chasing "ascension", and wife up some whore and see how that works out for you
(the irony is you will probably end up in a sexless marriage)
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I do not believe in marriage either. But it is no different from an open relationship if you cheat no? I would rather be forthright and declare it an open relationship.Ascension is a meme, its a raw deal, are there even any virgin women around anymore?
Like I just said:
I'd have no problem resisting tempation if I got a good deal, a woman worth resisting for, no such woman exists anymore so there's no point in playing by the old rules
Guys like you are like that guy who keeps using a character or build after it gets nerfed by the developer, but keeps complaining about losing
The "game" has been "updated", your old exploits and strategies don't work anymore, adapt or lose
You are deluded and underestimating your libido. A man sticking to one woman is a sacrifice, you don't realize that because you don't have any options (YET), if you had women throwing ass at you trying to fuck you while you were married (or who had money enough to pay to fuck virtually any woman you want) you would be tempted
Thinking having sex with the same woman everyday for decades won't get boring is like thinking you can eat your favorite food everyday for decades and not get tired of it, its a sacrifice that men in the past made because you were getting "quality goods", and because that woman preserved her virginity for you, YOU OWED HER YOUR COMMITMENT
No such deal exists anymore, again you aren't going to find a committed, feminine virgin wife anymore that's going to dedicate her life to you and give you children and maintain the home, you are going to get a woman that is trying to compete with you, who is masculine, believes bullshit feminist doctrine, and will probably cheat on you
But you go right ahead and keep chasing "ascension", and wife up some whore and see how that works out for you
This is not much different from the relationships at r/Cuckold
No it really isn't, men don't cheat they exercise options lol
If a man has sex with a woman that's not his wife, he still "loves" his wife, that other woman is just the "side chick" and he likely won't replace the wife because she serves a different more important role to him (so long as she peacefully plays that role)
However 9 times out of 10 when a woman cheats on a man she leaves him at some point, because women need to respect a man in order to be in a relationship with him, and no woman would cheat on a man that she respects
For men, sex is just having sex, for women sex is more of an emotional thing, this is why its so easy for them to leverage sex against men, because they aren't as thristy (especially when it comes to an average man)
If you are the breadwinner in the relationship, and you worked years and years to get yourself to that level of wealth and/or status, then you are paying the woman for exclusivity ON HER END, so no, if you "declared it an open relationship" you'd be a cuck, because you'd be paying for everything
The only thing the average woman contributes to a relationship these days (that a man wants from her) is her holes, I can't even think of anything else I want from a woman. So a relationship being open (as in completely open on both sides) is of no benefit to me because I would be footing the bill for everything and funding her lifestyle
She'd be home all day getting fucked by Chads while I'm working and then fucking a few other women in the hours I have free
That doesn't sound like a good deal to me at all, might as well just not get into a relationship at all (which is my point, there's no reason to get married or be in a committed relationship, or trying to "ascend" anymore)
Just pump and dump
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I always say that but sometimes even chads pay for sex, it's not uncommon. The reason? It's fun and simple. You see, for chad getting average and below average girls is effortless, but getting stacies is a little bit more difficult since they're in the same "level" so to speak. Sometimes they just want fuck a very attractive foid without much effort so they pay.
I'm sure you feel that way, but your experiences aren't universal and, not trying to be a dick, but just like the gen pop's platitudes to incels about how we should ... aren't helpful or applicable to a lot of us, the same holds for the advice of some of us for others of us. Great if you had good escorting experiences. Not so others. And it's not their fault.
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The weird thing is that you guys expect that your first time is going to be this great amazing thing, ever think that I had a good experience not because my first time was actually that good, but because I went into it with REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS?
Whether You First Have Sex By "Ascending" Or Prostitution, It's Going To Feel Like It's "Lacking" & Weird (That's Because Of Porn NOT "No Validation")
Today I want to talk about something that I have never seen talked about on any forum really, much less an incel forum, and I think this is something VERY IMPORTANT that many incels who plan on "ascending" need to prepare for, and its also very important for incels who plan on paying for sex...
incels.is
The experience for me wasn't great because it was just that good, it was great because I was relieved to no longer be a virgin and I went into this knowing that it wasn't going to be some amazing perfect experience, and then on top of that I came out of it knowing that it would take months or even years before it felt "normal" to me
You guys go into this with the mindset that you are going to have sex and for some reason all your mental trauma, personal hangups, etc was going to just disappear, that's why you guys leave disappointed while I left with a smile and a goal
Having unrealistic expectations is definitely your fault, one should be self aware enough to reflect on their own mental state and dial down their expected outcomes (especially if you are claiming to be "black pilled")
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Speaking just for me, no, I never thought about what your experiences were or why you had them. Man, I'm happy for you that you had a good experience. I don't see why that logically implies that others should feel about escorting the way you do.
I used to think that only incel tier men go to see escorts and massage parlors.
Far far from the truth. A lot of men that see those whores are already married or have girlfriends that do it for a hobby.
And from what I've read a lot of Asian men make up the clientele of these whores, literally making up half or more of the clientele of these whores when Asian men are only around 7 - 16% of the population here in SF, and smaller in CA in general. This is just the flat-out truth. It can't just be by accident that a lot of these whores say that half or more of their clientele are Asian.
Far far from the truth. A lot of men that see those whores are already married or have girlfriends that do it for a hobby.
And from what I've read a lot of Asian men make up the clientele of these whores, literally making up half or more of the clientele of these whores when Asian men are only around 7 - 16% of the population here in SF, and smaller in CA in general. This is just the flat-out truth. It can't just be by accident that a lot of these whores say that half or more of their clientele are Asian.
1. They aren't going to feel the same about something they haven't done yet, obviously
2. If they went into it with a similar mindset and main goal (e.g. losing your virginity) they would very likely feel the same way
3. What you feel about escortceling doesn't really matter, at the end of the day its the best of all the options that you have to ever enjoy having sex, so you can spend the rest of your life on this forum complaining about being a sexless virgin, or you can choose from the options available to you, that's the only part of this scenario that has anything to do with "logic"
Its completely illogical to spend your life on this forum, making thread after thread about how unhappy you are and how "there's nothing you can do", when you have an option staring you dead in the face but you can't get over your ego to try it and/or you are unwilling to put any effort into making it enjoyable
It would be too sad to lose my virginity at 30 by paying for it
1. So don't wait till you are 30 lol (if you are already 30 I am sorry, you shouldn't have waited)
2. Whats much sadder is dying a virgin
Yes I am 30, might as well keep my wizardry now instead of using my money on a whore.
You see this is where I start getting annoyed with incels, not you refusing to pay for sex, but you doing literally what I said incels do within this very thread
"Muh wizardry bro
, I'm a wizard bro , take my life seriously?, why bro, better to just joke around and make life choices based on memes bro"It just becomes tiring even talking to some of you
If you aren't going to take your own life seriously why not just kill yourself now?
Let me guess, another meme, "muh copes bro
" You aren't thinking things through if you think these copes are going to keep being as enjoyable as they are now, as it starts to sink in over the years that you are running out of time
I think I'll end it here
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Tbh whatever floats your boat. Personally I'm not up for it because it would be personally humiliating for me to lose my virginity to a whore. It's not like I'm going to ever have sex outside of fucking a whore anyways, but doing so would irk me to the point where I would rather stay a virgin.
This right here is mostly what I care about."Its not about sex. Its about getting love, attention and affection from women"
But ironically you'd "date" a woman that wasn't a virgin right? (I swear you guys love these mental gymnastics games but you speak as if "blue pillers" are worse than you smh)
Well I have news for you:
Dating Is Just Prostitution With Extra Steps (The "Dating Model" Is Used For Courtship Because It Provides Plausible Deniability To Both Parties)
Like the title says, dating is just prostitution with extra steps (especially if you aren't an attractive man). As a man you are really just paying for the transportation, food, drinks, entertainment, etc to "gamble for pussy", and hope that maybe you get her drunk enough to fuck you. If...
incels.is
IT
DOES
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EXIST
You guys are being illogical
You go around the forum using "evolution psychology" to validate all these different views you have about women that come down to "genetics", "biology", "biological imperatives", "chemical reactions in the brain", etc (you know all the catch phrases you guys like to use)
While at the same time you act like "love" is something that exists outside of biology and isn't dictated by biology
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS
If you truly believe in the black pill and you like to quote all this evolution psychology stuff when it suits you, you can't then also play mental gymnastic games with yourself and believe that love is a real thing that isn't just dictated by the same biological reality that makes women like a certain height or facial structure
If "love" is dictated by these things, you can't act like its something "special" or "magical" then, that's contradictory, else you have to do the same with women wanting to fuck Chad
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS
IF THE BLACK PILL IS TRUE, LOVE DOESN'T REALLY EXIST
NOT IN THE WAY YOU ARE PRETENDING IT DOES, AS "SOMETHING SPECIAL"
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If I wasn't an ethnic sand nigger and looked at least normal, yes. If any woman asked me out to a date, I would immediately be suspicious, because I've never gotten a single match on Tinder and I have been rejected multitudes of times, and got called ugly even.
I'm aware for the most part, love does not exist, though affection and attention from women does. Both of which Chads get which I desire, but I, in my lifetime, can not, unless reincarnation exists and I become lucky enough to be reincarnated as a Chad. Sex itself doesn't satiate all my needs.
For incels its different because we want female validation. Escorts/prostitutes will see anyone that can afford their price(usually) so there's no real sense of validation. And yes all men pay except for chad and tyrone that dont have to spend any money on a foid.
Semantics. Point stands. Telling other people they should act like you to get sex is about as futile as "normies" lecturing incels about how to get dates. Far too much evidence in support of this to take seriously the counterargument.
No offense, but that's an assumption. There's no way to predict reliably whether people are going to be successful. Otherwise, one of us would have published a book/program by now and there'd be far fewer sexually frustrated incels. And I'm pretty sure you're not going to be picking up the pieces if someone tries following your advice only to end up in a worse position.
That's a bald opinion. What "matters" is whatever happens to matter to a given mind. Cosmologically, nothing matters. But different things matter to different people. No one of us is the arbiter of what matters. Again, not trying to be a dick.
Logic concerns demonstrable truths. For the same reason X doesn't matter is an empty claim, asserting others' choices are "illogical" without understanding their lives, motivations, and the relative effects of their choices is meaningless.
I don't know if you're being serious in your threads here, or if you're a self-identified incel, or if you're one of these IT-like infiltrators I read about whose purpose is to foment discontent on this forum. And I don't want to make assumptions. But your arguments aren't at all convincing. You know your own life--so you're entitled to judge it. You don't know others' lives (here at least), so your advice rings hollow.
No offense, man, but we're not going to change each other's opinion, so peace.
Literally someones response to one of my arguments today:
This is also not uncommon, this has happened many times before
HERE'S THE THING THOUGH, YOU CAN ONLY CONVINCE SOMEONE WHO IS LOGICAL WITH LOGICAL ARGUMENTS
YOUR ARGUMENTS REVOLVE AROUND HOW PEOPLE FEEL (EMOTIONS)
So you are by definition illogical and you can't be convinced until you accept that someones feelings doesn't matter when it comes to whether or not a life choice is logical or not, ITS THE PROBABLE OUTCOMES THAT MATTER
I might FEEL (THINK) like marriage is worth pursuing in this day and age, marriage might be my current "motivation" for all my efforts in life, but, what is the probable outcome of an incel like me having a marriage that doesn't end in divorce and/or me being cheated on?.................. exactly.
Ok then by your logic personality matters a lot when it comes to getting sex from women just because a blue piller believes this
You know full well what you are saying here is completely illogical and you are just trying to be argumentative, you wouldn't apply this logic to anything in life
What people "feel" matters has nothing to do with objective reality
People can think whatever they want, the factors with objective value are still going to determine all outcomes within this reality, so you can go ahead and delude yourself into thinking that whatever "a given mind" believes holds value magically matters within reality, reality is not now going to bend to that persons beliefs, they are just going to get the short end of the stick
Just like all the incels who think "love" matters and keep chasing after that dream, they are either going to die virgins or end up being some woman's betabuxx provider after she's old and used up (and even then she'll probably be cheating on them lol)
OBJECTIVE REALITY MATTERS
You don't seem to realize that everything you're saying comes down to arguing - "Well I feel like this so those feelings validate my life choices"
NO
Ones motivations don't matter in relation to whether a choice is logical or not, because your motivations could very well be based on a flawed belief system
Again, perfect example, what if you are chasing after the "dream" of marriage while you are an incel based on your blue pilled motivations
Those motivations only formed because you were indoctrinated with false teachings
Your retard logic assumes that all beliefs that "a given person" happens to have are valid
Its almost like you conveniently forgot about the blue pill while making your arguments
Seriously how did you even type all this shit out without seeing the gaping hole in your arguments?, this is cognitive dissonance at its best
YOU - "FEELINGS MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING LOGICAL DECISIONS IN LIFE"
A logical choice has nothing to do with your feelings in any way, a logical choice has to do with data, its facts based, and it revolves around whether or not something is an OBJECTIVE benefit to you as a person
If you are a millionaire you could donate all of your money to some charity and go back to being a wage slave, no matter how good you feel about yourself afterwards YOUR CHOICE TO DO SO WAS 100% ILLOGICAL
Doesn't matter how great the cause was or how much you believed it was a "good" choice, you still made your life OBJECTIVE WORSE when really and truly you could have given a little bit over a few years, used that money to start a business to increase your income so then you could donate later, etc
In this case your decision was emotion based not logic based, your "motivations" or feelings about a situation has nothing to do with logic
Here's a simple question to ask yourself:
WHAT IF YOUR MOTIVATIONS ARE EMOTIONAL IN NATURE, WOULDN'T THAT MAKE YOUR LOGIC INHERENTLY FLAWED?
JFL at the guy basically arguing "feelings matter" saying I'm like IncelTears, between the two of us you are the only one sounding like a soft hearted liberal, you have on self awareness
JFL how convenient
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Irrelevant. This isn't evidence of a sound argument.
Distraction. I never made any claim about personality and marriage.
Posturing. If I already know this, then you're wasting your time repeating it.
Again, not my argument.
I'm not interested in typically vacuous anonymous online invective. If you think you've uncovered some fundamental truth about human behavior or a way to help incels, then don't waste your time trying--and failing--to convince me. Publish it and reap the rewards. You don't offer any credible evidence to substantiate what you've argued as anything more than your opinions, so there's no value to me in continuing to read what you write. Have a good rest of your summer.
Nor was your statement that my arguments aren't convincing evidence of my arguments not being convincing lol
Its just ironic that I literally have convinced someone
Your words you idiot:
I don't know how else you expect one to interpret such a statement, you are literally stating that whatever someone thinks matters is what matters, and my response to that is NO, ones personal feelings on what they THINK matters has no baring on what OBJECTIVELY matters in reality (as in real world outcomes)
cuck
based gray
Most incels don't get this. Even chads are not save after the broken social contract. They would be demanded legally, let alone betabuxx let alone us, incels.
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The reason why SMART WISE incels do not pay for sex?
Because many prostitutes will not accept clients below a certain looks threshold....
Not bullshit...
And the quality of your experience with hooker that does accept you... Will be HORRIBLE!
This is not bullshit.
This is truth.
Eastern Europe is also only for whites and also looks apply there as well.
Eastern Europe is very very racist.
Whites are not your friends nor jews.
Both are fucking scum...
Because many prostitutes will not accept clients below a certain looks threshold....
Not bullshit...
And the quality of your experience with hooker that does accept you
... Will be HORRIBLE!This is not bullshit.
This is truth.
Eastern Europe is also only for whites and also looks apply there as well.
Eastern Europe is very very racist.
Whites are not your friends nor jews.
Both are fucking scum...
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Like 99% of men aren't below that threshold though, of course there are men women won't fuck for money
But men who are that ugly should probably just kill themselves anyways because that level of uglyness impacts every aspect of living
Nobody wants to see you in public so you can't get very many jobs
I've seen some ugly fucks come walking out of a brothel so I don't know what level you are describing, be specific
Either way you are paying for sex at the end of the day, might as well get the best bang for your buck
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just fucking lol
always the fucking greycels
The reason why SMART WISE incels do not pay for sex?
Because many prostitutes will not accept clients below a certain looks threshold....
Not bullshit...
And the quality of your experience with hooker that does accept you
This is not bullshit.
This is truth.
Eastern Europe is also only for whites and also looks apply there as well.
Eastern Europe is very very racist.
Whites are not your friends nor jews.
Both are fucking scum...
Prostitutes and escorts are infamous for rejecting ethnics, too. So, in many cases I couldn't make use of them even if I wanted to.
Depends on where you live, if you were in Columbia or Argentina or in Thailand I doubt that would have happened
Obviously. Why would I mention it if it wasn't relevant to where I live?
No, not obviously, a lot of incels speak about prostitution as a broad generality as if Western countries and exorbitant prices are all that exists
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THIS 1000X THISYou would ironically DATE a woman who has had 10 or 5 past sexual partners but its a completely arbitrary standard
[Hard To Swallow Edition] More Than Zero Sexual Partners Equals A Whore (Any Other Value Is Arbitrary)
I often see many users making these illogical arbitrary claims about which number of sexual partners makes a woman a whore, and all the pointless exceptions they have that make a woman eligible for marriage. Virgin is the only choice, saying any other number is just arbitrary, any guy saying 1...
Pretty much every woman that you would ironically pay to date has been creampied hundreds of times, its just that the creampies came from a smaller pool of men, but the duration of those relationships means that she got fucked a lot anyways
There is no objective difference between a woman that has had a few long term relationships and a woman who has had many short term relationships, she still got fucked many times by a man that isn't you
You are really just having an emotional knee jerk reaction and forming subjective standards based on it
For you it may be "anything above 10 is too high a body count" and then some other guy on this forum will say "you are a cuck, that's double digits you a settling for, 5 is the minimum"
You are both wrong, the only absolute and objective standard IS ZERO PARTNERS
If a woman is not a virgin, you obsessing over how many cocks have been inside her is pointless
A woman could have had 1 sex partner till she met you, and that guy could have been an 8/10 Chad with a huge dick and high sex drive, and he fucked her 3 times a day for the 5 years they were together, either way she got creampied hundreds of times (by a man whose performance you can't ever replicate). Its arbitrary to now argue "well it was just that one guy"
Crack ho's are often a bargain.
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Yes, obviously. Since the west is where they live.
Most people can't relocate or go on sex vacations at a whim, or at all.
Every person can relocate eventually and that has always been the point of escortcels constantly asserting that "other countries exist", the only thing keeping you in the country you are in now, is you. If you are willing to spend the time building the resources required to go there you can go there
A lot of people immigrate to a country with nothing but the clothes on their back and a dream, because they truly hate the country they lived in before (e.g. Mexicans immigrating to America illegally)
So many incels come online here to complain everyday about how much they hate their "cucked country" or how much they hate their lives, but as soon as someone asks why they won't work towards moving to somewhere else all the BS excuses start coming out, and that just proves they are exaggerating and they don't hate their country or life as much as they claim to
"Well, all of my friends are here"
"I'd miss my family"
"I need my job that doesn't even pay that well"
It just shows that they are complaining just for the sake of complaining
When its time to complain about their problems they are so enthusiastic lol
When its time to talk about possible solutions and what sacrifices or concessions they will have to make to improve their lives, out goes all the enthusiasm
Its annoying, I think people like that should just STFU to begin with
If you aren't willing to:
1. Put in time and effort to get out of your current living situation
2. Take some calculated risks
3. Make some sacrifices or concessions
4. Leave some people you care about behind and move on
You don't really hate your life as much as you are claiming you do, its just attention whoring, so many users post endless threads about problems at home, planning on killing themselves, work place problems, etc, painting the picture that their entire life is intolerable
Now go ahead and ask them what they are doing to get out of that intolerable life in the next 5 to 10 years (a lot of time)
(the answer is always nothing)
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An inanimate sex doll, prostitute and also foid who's slept around are all indistinguishable to me. I derive no satisfaction from the idea of banging either one of them. It really annoys me that I was duped as a naive fuck a few years ago, having developed a fondness for someone who turned out to be a whore despite my understanding to the complete contrary. As someone with a higher than average sex drive, the only person I am attracted to who invokes any sort of euphoric feeling is I presume a virgin (18+) - and I have good reason to believe that. She's also very [UWSL]likeable[/UWSL] in general but I'll never actually know her. You're more likely to find fake [UWSL]tanzanite than a real one.[/UWSL]
That's not how normal sex drives work much more a "high" sex drive (which would discriminate even less than a normal one)
Also JFL at specifically "18+", as if humans evolved to only be aroused by an arbitrary "right age" that we came up with recently in our history
With all those restrictions your sex drive isn't high at all, nobody with a high sex drive would place those limitations on themselves
Lab results + personal experience + other factors tell me otherwise. I'm just resolute on what I'd accept because I'm not willing to be short-changed by some hoe. Being resolute is a good trait to have and I'd recommend it. I practice abstinence in many aspects of my life; I went from being an only-sugar/junk food consuming addict for over 20 years of my life to cutting it out and never looking back. I can resist temptations and put myself through a lot of mental agony doing it, no matter what it is. Ascending isn't on my agenda however.
Not 'everyone' can. Even if they could, people may not want to and that's their damn business. In my case, I've lived in other countries and despite the issues I have with the US, many of those issues are magnified in other countries so expatting just for the chance to use escorts is profoundly stupid. Not to mention I know firsthand expatting is a substainally less inviting prospect if you are not white.
I think you're annoying. You're obsessed with the fact people vent on online forums and whether they escortmaxx or not. Like, its fine to make such information available and present that viewpoint but you constantly grief people that don't take that option like its your fucking concern. It isn't.
Also, dogging people for not accepting your position just makes them more resistant to whatever you're attempting to convince them of. Pretty low IQ move.
If its their business, they should STFU and keep their complaints about their current lives personal just like their business too lol
You can't complain about a situation and then do nothing to escape it
1. Most of the users I'm describing here are white
2. Its not race that matters, its socioeconomic class, if you have money it won't matter how "inviting" anyone is. I never said go there broke.
Ok
Whether they escortmaxx or not isn't really the problem, what I'm obsessed with is being against illogical mindsets. You can't complain about your life everyday like its so terrible but you do nothing to get out of it, it makes no sense at all
Retard I'm not trying to convince them of anything, I'm stating facts, they can either think it over and come to a realization or deny it, the end result is that only their life is affected anyways
Many users have already told me they understood what I said and accepted it as true
Imagine if we applied your logic here to the blue pill vs black pill dynamic - "Don't dog people with the black pill else they'll be more resistant"
Ok, so then they fuck up their own lives
You are speaking as if I've trying to gain something out of the situation, the people that listen will benefit and the people that don't will remain where they are in life, the end
You do realize that you are literally using female rehtoric right now? - "Its not what you said, I just don't like the way you said it
"If you can't understand the logic of something because of how it was said, that's your problem, and there's probably "no saving you" anyways
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Yeah there's nothing that goes against the "values" of incels (whatever the fuck that means LOL) and I really can't see incels looking down their nose at anything.
It sounds mad but I think the big push against prostitution on here is because it could relieve a lot of the neurosis a lot of these retards have in their heads. They would see that sex isn't some magical thing experienced by superhumans. And there's a lot of vested interest in keeping many here miserable, violent and bitter. I mean just scrolling down this forum makes it so obvious it's a honeypot wtih fake posters making joke threads about shit no one cares about. I doubt anyone here is even incel, just a bunch of normie trolls and cops.
I stopped fucking hookers because:
1) Costs too much
2) Catfished almost every fucking time
3) Makes me feel like shit after tbh, mostly stemming from my own nerves and sexual dysfunction
4) Don't want to fuel an industry that has a significant tangent effect on "normal" women, effectively "putting them on a pedestal" by saying them lying on their back while you flail on top is worth £100
It sounds mad but I think the big push against prostitution on here is because it could relieve a lot of the neurosis a lot of these retards have in their heads. They would see that sex isn't some magical thing experienced by superhumans. And there's a lot of vested interest in keeping many here miserable, violent and bitter. I mean just scrolling down this forum makes it so obvious it's a honeypot wtih fake posters making joke threads about shit no one cares about. I doubt anyone here is even incel, just a bunch of normie trolls and cops.
I stopped fucking hookers because:
1) Costs too much
2) Catfished almost every fucking time
3) Makes me feel like shit after tbh, mostly stemming from my own nerves and sexual dysfunction
4) Don't want to fuel an industry that has a significant tangent effect on "normal" women, effectively "putting them on a pedestal" by saying them lying on their back while you flail on top is worth £100
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I agree, at once I thought that 70% were legitimate incels and 30% were fake, now I believe that 30% are legitimate incels and 70% are fake
1. I cheap as hell so even though the cost wasn't bad for me (like $50) I still only went once just to lose my virginity, because I can't spend $50 a week with my income lol. That's why I'm wealthmaxxing
2. I see you book escorts, I prefer to go to a brothel, because then you get to walk around and choose what you want in the moment, there is no "catfishing"
Well, there kinda is, women that are "thick" look real nice all wrapped up in clothing, shit doesn't look so cute when the clothes come off
3. This will take years to fix, I didn't feel like shit after though even though I had a similar experience, my expectations are reasonable
Here's the thing though, at what point will those "nerves" and "sexual dysfunction" go away if you aren't consistently having sex to get rid of it?
4. You have it backwards, prostitution lowers the value of women and pussy, think about it, imagine how much the value of pussy would skyrocket if all forms of prostitution were wiped out completely and there wasn't even a black market
Scarcity increases value. I don't know why I keep seeing incels saying the opposite when it comes to sex, if you decrease the supply and the demand remains the same, the value of the good goes up
So the sex industry is actually what is keeping the value of women lower than its maximum potential
Ban porn, onlyfans, prostitution, etc and make it impossible for any man to gain access to it through illegal means, and watch how many "muh red pill" and "muh black pill" men go full simp, the desperation will reach critical levels
That's what happens when you get married being betabuxx you can only get laid having to pay escort while your wife cheats you with chad
N0rmie has a choice - fucking a whore or fucking a gf
Incel - no choice
Incel - no choice
Which defeats the purpose of a forum where people come to vent. You can't be this dumb, right?
Sure you can. People do it all the time. Also, whether they are able to escape it or not is debatable.
Nether of these address the problem of escorts rejecting ethnics.
It is your problem, because you continue to harp on about it. You're clearly invested in it. It reminds me of the delusional black normies that would hound me and other ethnicels on IWH about how they could get foreign pussy in Europe and hence the problem was us. They insisted on arguing with us because we couldn't get laid. Ultimately, its not your problem, so what's truly illogical is why you continue to concern yourself with it. It borders on obsession.
You are obviously trying to convince people; you have extreme tunnel vision on this topic. And they're not 'facts'. Someone's concerns with utilizing prostitution, be they practical or emotional are subjective and apply to each individual. You're being surprisingly foid-like with your mindset, assuming that which applies and works for you is effective for others. Almost like a roastie gaslighting us with dating advice.
In that case, there's no need for you to pursue the topic either way. Except, as noted, you are clearly obsessed and emotionally invested in others converting to your view on the matter. It smacks of insecurity and comes across as desperate.
Irrelevant. Consensus does not equate to objective fact. Which BTW, you don't possess because otherwise you wouldn't continue to harp on about it.
link me a study or scientific paper supporting the use of escorts by involuntarily celibate men. Don't try to co-opt the blackpill to give your view legitimacy.
Let's say they do.Ok, so then they fuck up their own lives
So what?
Not your problem, so why concern yourself with it?
You do. Obviously you are looking for some sort of reinforcement to your stance, as its painfully clear how grubby your attempts are to gain validation for it. When you don't get it, you hound people. Doesn't appear as if you have much confidence in what you espouse. Insecurity is more likely.
The irony.You do realize that you are literally using female rehtoric right now? - "Its not what you said, I just don't like the way you said it
You accuse me of saying things I didn't say. You gaslight people. You erect strawmen. You're solipsistic - you assume what works for you is necessarily advisable to other people and seem unable to consider viewpoints outside of it. Even going so far as to interpret your opinions as fact, like feminists claiming there 'must be' a rape culture or patriarchy because they 'feel' threatened.
Then projection - after all this you accuse me of acting like a foid?
There is scarcely anything to 'comprehend'. Your view isn't nuanced, deep or novel. We get that you are obsessed with prostitutes and you believe utilizing them can assuage many of the issues people vent about. That doesn't make people that disagree wrong, and there's nothing wrong with people coming to vent about things as a cope. For example, many incels desire validation not simply sexual access. Your 'rebuttal' is essentially, 'get over it bro'. That's not how it works, and you have the cheek to claim you're stating 'facts'.
btw, he didn't respond to this, he claims you can't complain about a situation without trying to escape it, but when you call him out, he goes silent.
This sounds like an IT tactic, a false dichotomy.
1. Try to fix your situation
2. Don't try, but don't event online.
Either way, its an attempt to censor incels online.
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