Theory Do ALL of us INCELS have developed Avoidant Personality Disorder? (AvPD)

[Truecel Prophet]

Many of these apply the social fear of embarrassment is a big factor into it as well as rejection.

I would say that the core is the fear of being humiliated more even than rejected or embarrassed.

 

[autisticsoy]

I would say that the core is the fear of being humiliated more even than rejected or embarrassed.

your right on that had to check the definitions for shame and embarrassment because I was thinking about them to similar.

 

[Truecel Prophet]

your right on that had to check the definitions for shame and embarrassment because I was thinking about them to similar.

Yeah shame is a way stronger and lasting feeling than simple embarrassment.

 

[kapri]

It really does feel like I'm programmed to do the opposite of what makes me happy just because those same things can and will completely destroy you

 

[SaintSmerdyakov]

AvPD is only really diagnosed in men if autism doesn't explain their avoidance.

Also, to women, having a romantic encounter with an AvPD sufferer is one of the most painful experiences in her life, they obsess over it like we do with BPD women.

suifuel

 

[ItsOverMan]

Usually when it's like that you're just an extreme avoidant to the point that you fooled yourself into accepting loneliness as your default mode.

I very rarely feel lonely, which is a classic trait of Schizoid. I enjoy being alone and very rarely feel lonely.

 

[Truecel Prophet]

I very rarely feel lonely, which is a classic trait of Schizoid. I enjoy being alone and very rarely feel lonely.

Schizoid people have basically no desire of romantic partners at all, that would put you close to a volcel.

 

[NorwoodVictim]

 

[Todd Thundercock]

No, they are not extreme people pleasers, that's not by default, the core fear for people with AvPD is humiliation and being powerless.

I'm saying this as someone incorrectly diagnosed with AvPD, which was because I need to be that way around my white trash family to just keep the peace.

The criteria is basically that you mindlessly agree with people in order to get them to accept you and avoid rejection. The avoidance is of any negative interactions with others at all costs, which can obviously lead to isolation.

We know why we're isolated, as you often note in your post that it's not that simple.

AvPD is usually a comorbidity along with drug abuse and trauma shit which is then used to prescribe you Jew pills, which is always the goal of these diagnoses.

 

[Truecel Prophet]

I'm saying this as someone incorrectly diagnosed with AvPD, which was because I need to be that way around my white trash family to just keep the peace.

The criteria is basically that you mindlessly agree with people in order to get them to accept you and avoid rejection. The avoidance is of any negative interactions with others at all costs, which can obviously lead to isolation.

You are not referring to AvPD, that description is actually more (not completely) into Dependent Personality Disorder (DPD), they tend to be at some degree submissive and just please people or don't protest in general in fear of getting rejected or abandoned, they're basically dependent from them, of course that's an extreme version of what you said, but AvPD is not about that, even if you were wrongly diagnosed it doesn't change the picture.
Maybe you're referring to the nice guy "syndrome" than involves being nice expecting others to be so with you too, AvPD is not mainly based on trying to please people whatever gain you get, it's based on avoiding possible humiliation and rejection beforehand.

 

[alanmilky]

Yes

 

[hunter x atomics]

sounds about right

 

[flute_snoop]

There is a lot of overlap with this and social anxiety. It's hard to separate the two

 

[Truecel Prophet]

There is a lot of overlap with this and social anxiety. It's hard to separate the two

Yeah there is an overlap, usually social anxiety is a less severe form of AvPD.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

Those characteristics all describe me 100%

 

[guessthatsit]

Every single one.

 

[Ephialtes]

It's just a natural, rational response lol
-See the pattern
-Calculate the odds
-Conclude that interaction=net negative

 

[Q. H. Cooks]

AvPD is a meme mental illness, of course you'll avoid people if you only experience bad shit with them due to your ugliness.

 

[GloomyGhoul]

I’m a diagnosed schizophrenic, I’m pretty antisocial sometimes half the time. Major shut in who avoided human contact for the longest time

 

[Indari]

I was diagnosed with it.

 

[Emba]

I'd stay away from all that

Avoidant Personality Disorder​

stuff if I was you...

Just saying

 

[Shitskin=Shitlife]

I will be really honest I think an INCEL has like the whole package of AvPD symptoms, combined of course with hatred and resentment/rumination that are connected to AvPD too. Those are all the signs I found of Avoidant Personality Disorder, like I said, I know it's way more complex that this and it might sound as someone just weak, but I believe all of us have this at least partially:

• Avoidance of Occupational Activities: Trying to stay away from jobs or tasks that require significant interpersonal contact out of intense fear of criticism, disapproval, or rejection.
• Selective Social Involvement: Generally refusing to get involved with people unless there is an absolute certainty of being liked and accepted.
• Restraint in Intimate Relationships: Being extremely cautious or "closed off" even with close partners due to the fear of being ridiculed, shamed, or humiliated.
• Hypersensitivity to Negative Evaluation: Being constantly preoccupied with, and deeply hurt by, any potential sign of criticism or rejection or aggression in social encounters.
• New Situation Inhibition: Feeling "frozen," quiet, or socially inhibited in new interpersonal situations because of pervasive feelings of inadequacy.
• Inferiority Complex: Viewing oneself as socially inept, personally unappealing, or fundamentally inferior to others.
  (I think there is a both inferiority and superiority complex)
• Extreme Risk Avoidance: Being unusually reluctant to take personal risks or engage in new activities that might lead to embarrassment.
• Post-Event Rumination: Obsessively replaying past social interactions to "dissect" perceived mistakes, awkward moments, or subtle signs of rejection.
• Internalized Anger: Harboring deep-seated anger or aggression that is often suppressed to maintain a "people-pleasing" or amicable exterior.
• Volcanic Outbursts: Experiencing sudden, intense eruptions of irritability or "explosive" anger when suppressed emotions finally build up and overflow.
• Self-Directed Hostility: Turning anger inward, resulting in harsh self-criticism, self-loathing, and blaming oneself for social failures.
  (I think this one ain't much self directed for us INCELS but it's much about the outside too)
• Chronic Silent Resentment: Nursing long-term wounds or feelings of being overlooked because of an inability to communicate needs or set boundaries.
• Resentment of Social Ease: Feeling a sense of injustice or bitterness toward those who seem to navigate social worlds effortlessly.
• Hypervigilance: Constantly "scanning" the environment and others' facial expressions to detect even the slightest hint of disapproval or dislike.
• Anticipatory Anxiety: Ruminating on future social events by imagining every possible way they might go wrong or lead to humiliation.
• Emotional "Shutting Down": Withdrawing or becoming passive-aggressive when upset, rather than expressing anger directly.
• Relationship Self-Sabotage: Preemptively abandoning friendships or romantic connections out of a fearful "certainty" that the other person will eventually reject them.
  (Here too it's not that simple at all but whatever)
• Anhedonia and Isolation: Choosing total social isolation and losing interest in once-pleasurable activities because the fear of rejection outweighs any potential reward.
• Low Persistence: A tendency to give up on goals or social efforts immediately upon encountering the slightest obstacle or sign of friction.
  
  If you actually read it, what do you think? I believe there is a significant and undeniable link between INCELS and the development of AvPD after ostracism, humiliation, and rejection, nothing much more to say really.

I have all of these symptoms. It reads like the natural result of being an ugly, low-status, incompetent, and humiliated male. My entire life has been one giant excruciating humiliation ritual. I try to avoid people as much as I can because interaction means humiliation and embarrassment. I would live in the woods and never speak to another person ever again if you just gave me a gaming computer with an internet connection.

I think a large part of this is that my parents always force me into family gatherings where brown ethnics constantly talk about their education and employment achievements and I get brutally mogged and humiliated by everybody including my own brother. I shouldn't even be in any of these status-showing-off gatherings because it only causes more trauma but my parents have forced me into that shit for life. The end result is a severely socially anxious recluse who hates humanity.

 

[PvZcel]

I don’t interact with anyone at all and the very few that try to interact with me, I push away because I know they’re going to use me later on.

 

[Antorian]

Partially yes

 

[Yunoo]

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Also, to women, having a romantic encounter with an AvPD sufferer is one of the most painful experiences in her life, they obsess over it like we do with BPD women.

Why is that?

 

[Truecel Prophet]

I don’t interact with anyone at all and the very few that try to interact with me, I push away because I know they’re going to use me later on.

Real

 

[Truecel Prophet]

AvPD is a meme mental illness, of course you'll avoid people if you only experience bad shit with them due to your ugliness.

it's not a meme nigga

 

[Truecel Prophet]

I'd stay away from all that

Avoidant Personality Disorder​

stuff if I was you...

Just saying

?

 

[VλREN]

Yes

 

[cattcell]

Before i was truly pilled i used to at least try nowadays i just ldar and avoid all contact

 

[Lonelyus]

I avoid all conflicts i can but people still find a way to step on my boundarys and try and test them

 

[Todd Thundercock]

it's not a meme nigga

AvPD is effectively a meme. It's not good for getting bux. There's no fixing it. CBT is the general plan, and that's a joke.

It's main purpose is a personality disorder to stick with causing your depression/anxiety and then they prescribe Jewpills.

 

[Truecel Prophet]

There's no fixing it. CBT is the general plan, and that's a joke.

It's main purpose is a personality disorder to stick with causing your depression/anxiety and then they prescribe Jewpills.

not everything can be fixed, and nobody will take kikepills.

 

[Caesercel]

I have all of these lol