Experiment Depression poll

[Fontaine]

Curious.

Give details on why treatments failed for you, or succeeded for you, or why you refuse any and all treatment. Personally:

- Diagnosed with MDD at 16. First offers of treatment were talk therapies. They failed.
- Then refused any other treatment because of distrust towards psychiatric community and society in general.
- Tried to fix my MDD through unorthodox methods, including physical exercise, politics and religion. Mostly failed.
- Tried Zoloft in early 20s. Horrible drug that aggravated my state.
- Tried SNRIs later. Mildly effective (although I'm not sure if it wasn't a placebo) but came with serious cardiovascular side effects. Not worth it.
- Finally tried transcranial magnetic stimulation (a milder form of electroshock) a few months back. I have been cured ever since, at no negative side effects. If anything, it made me smarter.

 

[anon]

Never got diagnosed, parents didn't care nor did I. I know I have mental issues, I don't need a normie faggot shrink to tell me that. I'd never go to a psychiatrist voluntarily and I will never understand "incels" who go to shrinks.

Here's a blackpill for you guys. You wouldn't have mental issues if you were Chad.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

I dont want to go to a mental health pro for so many reasons.

 

[nxdismycope]

im sure my (undiagnosed) depression and mental state is irreversible so i dont see a point to waste my time at a threrapist.

 

[Mainländer]

I've taken Ritalin as a kid and went to many different therapists for years and years, both were useless. Don't want to try anything else tbh.

I'm a complete airhead and that causes some difficulties at work right now, but I'm in such a low position that people don't care that much.

 

[Fontaine]

I'd never go to a psychiatrist voluntarily and I will never understand "incels" who go to shrinks.

Psychiatrists are very different from therapists, usually, especially if they're old (experience makes them wary of bullshit theories). Psychiatrists are doctors who went through intense studies and medical residency. They're usually more rational, cool-headed and pessimistic than therapists (who are mostly scam artists indeed).

Here's a blackpill for you guys. You wouldn't have mental issues if you were Chad.

This is true. However, that doesn't mean psychiatry can't serve a useful function. Life has taught me that artificial happiness is better than true misery, because artificial happiness gives you the energy necessary to adress your miserable conditions. Think of you as a robot, and psychiatry as a software hack.

 

[El3ctr1ck]

I currently dont have any kind of depression, but I think i had before, never went to visit a doctor or therapist because i think they are a waste of time and money. And pills and medicamentes like the ones you are talking about are a complete scam from my point of view. The cure to depression is friendship, social relathionships, girlfriends and love and care, pills are scam.

 

[anon]

Psychiatrists are very different from therapists, usually, especially if they're old. Psychiatrists are doctors who went through intense studies and medical residency. They're usually more rational, cool-headed and pessimistic than therapists (who are mostly scam artists indeed).

I don't care. They're all the same to me and I admit I didn't know the difference between all of them, but it doesn't matter because they're all full of shit and their shit generic advice only ever works for normal social humans who were never truly fucked in the head in the first place.

This is true. However, that doesn't mean psychiatry can't serve a useful function. Life has taught me that artificial happiness is better than true misery, because artificial happiness gives you the energy necessary to adress your miserable conditions.

I don't need a shrink to make me artificially happy. I can pretend I'm happy without a shrink. I know what their advice would be, same generic trash you hear all the time.
You will never be happy as an unattractive person who is not rich.

 

[Fontaine]

I've taken Ritalin as a kid and went to many different therapists for years and years, both were useless. Don't want to try anything else tbh.

I'm a complete airhead and that causes some difficulties at work right now, but I'm in such a low position that people don't care that much.

That sounds like depressive symptoms tbh, I had the same difficulty in focusing at work before my treatment.

That would also explain your liking for porn -- depressed brains constantly seek hedonistic pleasure in an attempt to compensate for unhappiness. I wouldn't say my libido has disappeared since my treatment, but nofap is way easier to practice than before.

I don't care. They're all the same to me and I admit I didn't know the difference between all of them, but it doesn't matter because they're all full of shit and their shit generic advice only ever works for normal social humans who were never truly fucked in the head in the first place.
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I don't need a shrink to make me artificially happy. I can pretend I'm happy without a shrink. I know what their advice would be, same generic trash you hear all the time.
You will never be happy as an unattractive person who is not rich.

What you're talking about is talk therapy. I don't advocate for talk therapy. I think talk therapy is indeed, 95% of the time, completely unadapted to incel males, and as such is incompetence bordering on criminality.

I'm talking here about effective treatments -- TMS, ECT, drugs.

 

[BlackPilledKira]

I had severe depression, i went to the doctor since i was suicidal and he recommended an antidepressant.

I took the antidepressant for 4 days and had an extreme panic attack which lasted for 3 days afterwards and awakened my anxiety disorder which i still struggle with.

Anxiety is so much worse for me now, i can barley go out in public without feeling disconnected and panicky. My life is pretty much over at 21 thanks to these mental issues.

 

[anon]

I'm talking here about effective treatments -- TMS, ECT, drugs.

There's no effective drugs for subhumanity, end of discussion. It's just another form of cope and that's fine, but don't present it as a cure. There is no cure if you're not rich and by rich I mean dozens of millions of dollars, not "normie" rich.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

im sure my (undiagnosed) depression and mental state is irreversible so i dont see a point to waste my time at a threrapist.

 

[Mainländer]

That sounds like depressive symptoms tbh, I had the same difficulty in focusing at work before my treatment.

That would also explain your liking for porn -- depressed brains constantly seek hedonistic pleasure in an attempt to compensate for unhappiness. I wouldn't say my libido has disappeared since my treatment, but nofap is way easier to practice than before.

Transcranial magnetic stimulation seems pretty good, but I know you're wealthy, did healthcare cover it or did you pay? How much?

Do you think that could be available through German healthcare? I will take a look, but since my German is meh, my father solves all that shit for me and I think it's very possible that he will downplay it if I mention I'm depressed or something. He's a very tough and oldschool type guy, the other day he hurt his feet pretty badly, tons of blood, and didn't even flinch. He just stopped the bleeding and drove to the hospital calmly.

 

[Fontaine]

im sure my (undiagnosed) depression and mental state is irreversible so i dont see a point to waste my time at a threrapist.

I used to think the same thing before TMS changed my life. Imagine going from lethargic zombie to Donald Trump in the span of a few weeks. I still can't believe it happened.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Last option for me.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

I used to think the same thing before TMS changed my life. Imagine going from lethargic zombie to Donald Trump in the span of a few weeks. I still can't believe it happened.

I don't know. Depression can be a good thing sometimes, especially regarding artistic creation. When I'm in a good mood, I can't draw or write as well as when I'm depressed. I don't know why but my depression seems to fuel my inspiration.

 

[Fontaine]

Transcranial magnetic stimulation seems pretty good, but I know you're wealthy, did healthcare cover it or did you pay? How much?

Social Security covered part of the bill.

In general, a session of approx. 20 minutes costs ~100 USD / 80 EUR. To give you an idea, private clinics in the Netherlands offer an intensive treatment with guaranteed cure for 2000 EUR. That's pretty steep I admit, but your work insurance plan should cover it fully if it's in Germany I think...

Do you think that could be available through German healthcare? I will take a look

Do it asap. You won't regret it.

I don't know. Depression can be a good thing sometimes, especially regarding artistic creation. When I'm in a good mood, I can't draw or write as well as when I'm depressed. I don't know why but my depression seems to fuel my inspiration.

I used to believe that too. It's a lie your depressed brain tells you. My creativity and verbal IQ have shot through the roof since I'm cured.

 

[Deleted member 1252]

I don’t need a “medical professional” to tell
me I’m depressed. I did try therapy and meds; neither did anything helpful - in fact their latter seriously fucked me up for like 2 months. Don’t touch those SSRIs, kids.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I dont want to go to a mental health pro for so many reasons.

I wouldn't mind testing out anti depressants though and also smart drugs combined. Hopefully that would make me Giga to Tetra productive.

 

[Septembercel]

I'm pretty sure I'm bipolar, got ADD and MDD.
However I dont want to go see some fucking psychaitrist who will stuff me with pills to hide me from the truth.

 

[Mr. Pajser]

I had extreme depression. Suicide was never an option because I'm a pussy. Its all good now.

 

[AmeriCel64]

I have diagnosed with "Depression". No specifics.

 

[Newbite]

Wageslaving makes me depressed

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I was on a ridiculous amount of pills as a kid. Typically anti-psychotics. I don’t know if they worked but the withdrawals were fucking retarded. Nowdays I don’t bother going to a doctor about anything. It’s a waste of my time

Doctors are incredibly incompetent they have never fixed any problems I had, I even went to the doctor for 5 years because of psoriasis and got a steroid creme for it I still use but they never diaognosed me because they didn´t know what it was only how to make it go away a little bit. I fucking hate doctors they only have that job to earn big bucks and to feel superior because it gives them status.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

There really is no point. Most of the time the doctors don’t even know what’s going on. They just make guesses and push pills on you.

Yeah that was legit the first thing my psychologist tried when I was a teenager to get me on anti depressives but I refused.

 

[Incellectual]

I had severe depression, i went to the doctor since i was suicidal and he recommended an antidepressant.

I took the antidepressant for 4 days and had an extreme panic attack which lasted for 3 days afterwards and awakened my anxiety disorder which i still struggle with.

Anxiety is so much worse for me now, i can barley go out in public without feeling disconnected and panicky. My life is pretty much over at 21 thanks to these mental issues.

antidepressants aren't worth it. When I took them for a little bit in high school they made me absolutely crazy and I still get random manic periods in my life since I took them. I wish doctors would stop shilling them they seem to do more damage than good.

There really is no point. Most of the time the doctors don’t even know what’s going on. They just make guesses and push pills on you.

also this 100%. Every doctor I've been to cant decide on what diagnosis to give me they legit just pull it out of their ass most of the time.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

To assume they have any competence at their job is a joke. A woman came into school when I was about 15 and asked me a ton of questions to pretty much gauge how I felt about life, if I was angry, suicidal, self hating etc. The thing is I’d already been told why she was there and what the questions were for. I’ll be damned if those bastards start getting on my ass for my mind. There’s no way they would have used that information to benefit me so I bullshitted every question. I never saw that woman again because the results showed that I was more than fine. An example of how useless they are.

Yes they´re so easy to fool it´s down right pathetic. Also mental illness isn´t final because if you say anything to a shrink that contradicts their education then they might say that you have this or that diagnosis and it doesn´t matter what you say because in their mind they are superior and they are 100% right because what they have read about psychology is always right but they need to know that psychology is man-made and yes a lot of traits can be very accurate so they will label a diagnosis on you.

I for example have an extremely woke mind and if I told a shrink my ideology they would slap a lot of diagnosis on me because it contradicts the norm of how a "normal" person or a sheep imo is suppose to think, that is why I don´t want to waste time on those fuckers because they think what they have been taught is final. Adam Lanza has spoken a lot about this too and I think he is completely right about it.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

I don't have depression. I feel sad often because of the sadness that radiates from sites like these that I browse all day long, but I'd say that when I wake up, my normal state is neutral.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

The fact that it's so easy to hide from them and that they cant deduce shit means that it's a flawed profession. If you had a physical ailment no amount of concealing would really be able to hide that from a doctor if they ran the right tests. I also feel that these "mind doctors", because they see so many "patients" have to stop caring. You can't give a shit about that many people coming in and out every day so them actually giving a shit about making sure you get a proper diagnosis and treatment will be at the bottom of their lists.

Agree that is also why I won´t pay money to talk to a shrink about suicide it´s desperate and completely pathetic! It´s like paying a prostitute for love just because you pay her doesn´t mean she loves you and same here. Just because you pay a shrink doesn´t mean she cares, I mean you could talk about very deep and personal stuff and then the hour is up and you are forced to leave, does this seem like a person who gives a shit about you? NO! But the most pathetic people are definitely people who call suicide hotlines, if you´re on the verge to commit suicide and you call these lines it´s ONLY for attention nothing more and that is pathetic asf!

 

[tiredofthisshit]

Depression can't be diagnosed it's a joke. If you are depressed you simply lack a girlfriend or realize this world is a shit hole.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Shrinks are useless anyway. Like talking to someone who looks down on you is going to solve our problems. Talk to much about suicide and they'll probably section you so you're basically paying to get fucked. Suicide hotlines are stupid too. It's not like either 2 people are on the same page, the people calling just want someone to feel sorry for them, the people on the other end are there to make themselves feel better about themselves for 'being a good person'. I prank called a few of them in the past. I should probably just prerecord some bullshit and have it constantly call them to take up call space.

Lol I never thought about prank calling them, maybe I should try that haha! They deserve it too because every time I search about suicide a suicide hotline pops up in the results you know "to prevent suicide" JFL!

And I agree shrinks really do look down on their patients especially if the shrink is female, because females only want masculinity and strength (both physically and mentally) so she would deem you unworthy of her when you open up about your problems, this can often be seen on Tinder or other dating apps where it is acceptable for girls to write in their description of all their mental illnesses and how fucked up they are or even have a picture where they cry or a sad but men aren´t allowed to show any weakness like this.

 

[NEETAndTidy]

When I say effective treatment I just mean my jewpills make me not want to rope.

Still incredibly depressed

 

[hermitcel]

Doctor said I had depression, gave me meds. Took em for two weeks. Nothing changed. Waste of 20 dollars

 

[acnescarcel]

got diagnosed major depressive. i take some shitty pill that doesn't do much since i still think of suicide daily.

 

[Anger]

I don´t want to go to a psychiatrist because it´s useless, they would tell me bluepilled shit or drug me with jewpills.

 

[Lindys]

Currently on Prozac and Zyprexa. Former isn't doing shit but the latter at least makes me tired so I can LDAR easier.

Doctor said I had depression, gave me meds. Took em for two weeks. Nothing changed. Waste of 20 dollars

SSRIs (which i'm assuming you've been diagnosed) usually take a couple of months to kick in. I'd give it a little more time before making a final judgement.

 

[MinorityNoOneCares]

I was dx in my teens, than fed pills that caused weight gain, tardive dyskinesia, tourettes symptoms, constipation, and other fun things...fuck that.

 

[Deleted member 6599]

My own copes became effective treatment. Nothing offered from a "professional" has ever helped. Maybe the therapy helped. I've done a fuck load of talking about myself, and self analysis in front of those cucks.