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Total Leftard Death, Total Feminist Death. You all will burn in hell on earth
 
We need to bump this thread with more dead lefties.
 
I'm a leftist but I hate feminists. It seems like everyone is a feminist. All of my teachers except ~3 believed foids are superior some even stating it outright.
 
Total Leftard Death, Total Feminist Death. You all will burn in hell on earth

Kill leftists and feminists with ovens and and forcefully shoving tapeworms into them to starve them, while taunting them with food
 
I'm a leftist but I hate feminists. It seems like everyone is a feminist. All of my teachers except ~3 believed foids are superior some even stating it outright.
Never. Never fucking leftie, they all are bad and feminist
 
Kill leftists and feminists with ovens and and forcefully shoving tapeworms into them to starve them, while taunting them with food
Based Pinochet is fucking saint, i want to piss on the graves of his victims hard
 
Kill leftists and feminists with ovens and and forcefully shoving tapeworms into them to starve them, while taunting them with food
Breivik removed 77 monkeys jfl, best swimming summer camp
 
Why? You want women to have rights? There is no such a thing like a leftism without rights for women
I want them to work hard jobs and serve in the army. The right pander to women and enforce slave gender roles on men.
 
I want them to work hard jobs and serve in the army. The right pander to women and enforce slave gender roles on men.
I want them to lose all their rights and to be our slaves
 
Would be better if they all were sex havers
 
I'm a leftist but I hate feminists. It seems like everyone is a feminist. All of my teachers except ~3 believed foids are superior some even stating it outright.
Economic leftist or social leftist? I seriously hope you don’t support fags, immigration, etc.
 
I want them to work hard jobs and serve in the army. The right pander to women and enforce slave gender roles on men.
Only the christcuck right does. I support a true patriarchy in which foids are property of men. Also, why would you trust foids with roles that suited towards men? That’s retarded and inefficient
 
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Everytime a feminist dies, the world becomes a little better.
 
Drop a piano and then a safe on leftists. Paint a wall to look like a tunnel that continues the road so they'll run straight into it. Pull their ties really hard and release so it zig-zags. Make brooms take the shape of their frames.
 
Only the christcuck right does. I support a true patriarchy in which foids are property of men.
You'll work yourself to death while your female counterpart does nothing and sits at home. Hardly a patriarchy
Also, why would you trust foids with roles that suited towards men?
That's not a true patriarchy then
That’s retarded and inefficient
No it's not. Women are not any less intelligent than men. They are just lazy and complacent. Gender roles were invented and enforced by women because they got the easier end of the deal.
 
No it's not. Women are not any less intelligent than men. They are just lazy and complacent. Gender roles were invented and enforced by women because they got the easier end of the deal.
Leftist moment:
 
Only the christcuck right does. I support a true patriarchy in which foids are property of men. Also, why would you trust foids with roles that suited towards men? That’s retarded and inefficient
Based. Women should be our slaves working shit Jobs and fucking
 
Based. Women should be working shit Jobs
That is exactly my point. They should work in coal mines and oil rigs like the men do! And not just the management sector of those jobs, but the physically demanding labor.
"Why would you trust foids with roles that suited towards men? That’s retarded and inefficient"

Implies two things:

He doesn't want women to work (Women worship and underestimation)

He is fine with men working to death and dying in the army, however.
 
No it's not. Women are not any less intelligent than men. They are just lazy and complacent. Gender roles were invented and enforced by women because they got the easier end of the deal.
They are indeed less intelligent and also physically weaker. Gender roles reflect evolutionary trends.
You'll work yourself to death while your female counterpart does nothing and sits at home. Hardly a patriarchy
I don't care if I get to beat them, fuck them and be their god when I get home. Much better than working with foids and trusting them with my life.
That's not a true patriarchy then
It is as men are the only ones who can participate in society and involve themselves in public affairs, while foids are completely powerless. The fact that you trust foids with tasks in which men have an evolutionary advantage is laughable.
He is fine with men working to death and dying in the army, however
Men literally evolved for physical tasks and fighting foids didn’t. Force foids to work men’s jobs and we’ll only see a dip in productivity and a rise in workplace accidents.
 
They are indeed less intelligent
No scientific basis for that. All pseudoscience
and also physically weaker. Gender roles reflect evolutionary trends.
Gender roles were never consistent throughout. Men in the 1700s who cried were not "unmanly"

The only thing that stayed consistent was men serving women
I don't care if I get to beat them, fuck them and be their god when I get home. Much better than working with foids and trusting them with my life.
Your opinion. I find working hard jobs while my female counterparts do nothing deeply humiliating.
It is as men are the only ones who can participate in society and involve themselves in public affairs, while foids are completely powerless. The fact that you trust foids with tasks in which men have an evolutionary advantage is laughable.
And she leeches off your labor, you'll die to protect her

True/complete patriarchy will benefit men in every way


Men literally evolved for physical tasks and fighting foids didn’t.
So you want to kill other men and work yourself to death to pander to women? :feelsclown:

Women in the past also frequently participated in laborious tasks btw.

People of different races differ vastly in strength. Did that stop them from creating civilizations?

Do bullets discriminate?

Do drones care about your muscle mass?

I assure you, a good round of 5.56 will put a hard stop to even the strongest of men.

Force foids to work men’s jobs and we’ll only see a dip in productivity and a rise in workplace accidents.
Wouldn't women working just as hard as men benefit society overall?

You cannot argue productivity will decrease when there are nearly twice as many workers who are nearly equally as capable.

>Rise in workplace accidents

Its proven that women get into less car accidents than men. You're okay with men getting smashed by 10 ton steel bars, but oh no not women :feelsclown:
 
No scientific basis for that. All pseudoscience
Foids have lower spatial intelligence on average, that's a fact. You sound like a male feminist.
Gender roles were never consistent throughout. Men in the 1700s who cried were not "unmanly"

The only thing that stayed consistent was men serving women
Cope. With few exceptions, foids have always been powerless and completely dependent on men to survive. Giving them the opportunity to work for a living is one of the factors that has led to mass hypergamy.
Your opinion. I find working hard jobs while my female counterparts do nothing deeply humiliating.
You’d really trust a foid with your life? View her as your comrade? I’m starting to doubt your judgement about foids.
And she leeches off your labor, you'll die to protect her

True/complete patriarchy will benefit men in every way
It is perfectly fair for foids to have no influence on society and merely act as sex providers and child bearers for their husbands. Full equality for foids is retarded and only makes them inferior men.
So you want to kill other men and work yourself to death to pander to women?
It’s biology genius. I could care less what foids think
Women in the past also frequently participated in laborious tasks btw.
For example? The only ones that come to mind are agriculture and manufacturing. I doubt that foid miners or construction workers were ever widespread, and for good reason.
People of different races differ vastly in strength. Did that stop them from creating civilizations?

Do bullets discriminate?

Do drones care about your muscle mass?

I assure you, a good round of 5.56 will put a hard stop to even the strongest of men.
That is not the point. Foids are not psychologically capable of fighting a war and will quickly crumble under the pressure. Many men also do, but not to the same extent as foids.
Wouldn't women working just as hard as men benefit society overall?

You cannot argue productivity will decrease when there are nearly twice as many workers who are nearly equally as capable.
Yes, I'm sure the traditionally male dominated work spaces will become so efficient with the sudden influx of foid workers who have little to no interest whatsoever in the field and will start whoring around and attracting orbiters and white knights.
>Rise in workplace accidents

Its proven that women get into less car accidents than men. You're okay with men getting smashed by 10 ton steel bars, but oh no not women
I don't care what happens to foids. The problem is forcing foids to think and behave like men, which will never end well. Could you imagine forcing men to behave like women? Sure some of them will be decent workers, but in most cases they will be inferior workers who lack competence.
 
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Foids have lower spatial intelligence on average, that's a fact. You sound like a male feminist.

There is no statistically significant difference between the average IQ scores of men and women.

According to psychologist Diane Halpern, "there are both differences and similarities in the cognitive abilities of women and men, but there is no data-based rationale to support the idea that either is the smarter or superior sex

Cope. With few exceptions, foids have always been powerless and completely dependent on men to survive. Giving them the opportunity to work for a living is one of the factors that has led to mass hypergamy.
YOUR coping.

>powerless
Women allowed to murder their husbands, husbands beating their wives is cope, the reverse is true

Women brags to judge about beating her husband (Him being powerless to do anything)

View: https://www.scribd.com/doc/171964524/Wife-Brags-to-Judge-About-Beating-Her-Husband-for-Fifth-Time-During-Trial-1900


Women were already pleased in 1970 as they felt more ""privilege" would strip them of their preferential treatment


View: https://www.scribd.com/document/229918209/86-of-Women-Felt-They-Already-Had-the-Right-to-Live-as-They-Pleased-in-1970-and-Did-Not-Support-the-Feminist-Movement


More wives deserted their husbands than vice versa, even though women commit the most dv

View: https://www.scribd.com/document/230509575/More-Wives-Deserted-Husbands-Than-Vice-Versa-in-1909


False molestation claims


View: https://www.scribd.com/document/231416590/False-Molestation-Against-Fathers-on-the-Rise-1986


Women were allowed to open businesses even in the early 1800s

men WHO FOUGHT BACK against their wives were punished


WIves being legally able to hit their husbands


DEFINITION IS PATRIARCHY
a society in which the oldest male is the leader of the family, or a society controlled by men in which they use their power to their own advantage:

Which never existed. The head of one nation might be male, but they almost never change laws for male interests.

Woman boasts about beating husband

View: https://www.scribd.com/document/171545379/Woman-Horsewhips-Husband-and-Boasts-About-It-Newspaper-in-Second-Incident-of-Man-Whippings-1906



Have you heard of Joan De Arc?

Women fight wars more frequently than men (Women are powerless gentle bullshit debunked)




>Completely dependent on men to survive
That's because they can parasite off male labor.
You’d really trust a foid with your life? View her as your comrade? I’m starting to doubt your judgement about foids.
I want women to die and bleed the same as men. More women in the military would drastically decrease male deaths if anything.
It is perfectly fair for foids to have no influence on society and merely act as sex providers and child bearers for their husbands. Full equality for foids is retarded and only makes them inferior men.
Full equality is better for us than it is for them.

Women would have to work instead of leeching of their husbands

Women would have to work in coal mines are relieve the burdens placed on men

Women would have to take accountability for their crimes

Women's grades would be slashed (Biased female rating)

Male rape recognized


It’s biology genius. I could care less what foids think
Male biology (according to you) = dying and slaving away for foids
For example? The only ones that come to mind are agriculture and manufacturing. I doubt that foid miners or construction workers were ever widespread, and for good reason.


That is not the point. Foids are not psychologically capable of fighting a war and will quickly crumble under the pressure. Many men also do, but not to the same extent as foids.
Show me the papers.
David Offor on X: Russian soldier begs for mercy from a Ukrainian drone  Waar does no one any good!! Stand for PEACE!!! https://t.co/5vQFw8CsXS / X

Is he any less human?

Are his feelings any less valuable?

What makes him expendable compared to women?

Most of us would crumble too.

>Psycholgy argument

Why don't screen people of both genders then? Since it's all about psychology not about gender. But noooo...

Yes, I'm sure the traditionally male dominated work spaces will become so efficient with the sudden influx of foid workers who have little to no interest whatsoever in the field and will start whoring around and attracting orbiters and white knights.
Do men really want to work 9-5?

Or is it out of necessity?

A true egalitarian society will ensure that men and women will be treated as equals in the workplace and no indecent behaviour will be tolerated!
I don't care what happens to foids. The problem is that foids are forced to think and behave like men, which will never end well. Could you imagine forcing men to behave like women? Sure some of them will be decent workers, but in most cases they will be inferior workers who lack competence.
Women molded men into what they are. Male behavior is literally directly influenced by female behavior, the opposite is not true

>Behave like men was never consistent
 
The article literally mentions that men have superior spatial intelligence, the only type of intelligence that truly matters.
YOUR coping.
>powerless
Women allowed to murder their husbands, husbands beating their wives is cope, the reverse is true
Warsaw Daily Union - Google News Archive Search
Women brags to judge about beating her husband (Him being powerless to do anything)
Women were already pleased in 1970 as they felt more ""privilege" would strip them of their preferential treatment
More wives deserted their husbands than vice versa, even though women commit the most dv
Women were allowed to open businesses even in the early 1800s
https://beta.u-strasbg.fr/WP/2022/2022-24.pdf
men WHO FOUGHT BACK against their wives were punished

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3149/jms.1002.111?journalCode=mena
WIves being legally able to hit their husbands
Thanks to christcuck slave morality, the West was well on its way to becoming cucked in the 19th century. In ancient Athens, women were legally considered property, were not allowed to be educated and were completely excluded from public life.
Have you heard of Joan De Arc?

Women fight wars more frequently than men (Women are powerless gentle bullshit debunked)
Exceptions do not disprove the rule. War is a masculine activity and there’s nothing wrong with that. Also, initiating a war as head of state is not the same as fighting in one.
I want women to die and bleed the same as men. More women in the military would drastically decrease male deaths if anything.
Foids for the most part make bad soldiers. They’d be liabilities if anything.
Full equality is better for us than it is for them.

Women would have to work instead of leeching of their husbands

Women would have to work in coal mines are relieve the burdens placed on men

Women would have to take accountability for their crimes

Women's grades would be slashed (Biased female rating)

Male rape recognized
Why have equal rights with foids when you can have institutionalized male supremacy like in ancient Athens? Abolishing all their rights and reducing their legal status to the property of men is the only way to keep them in check. Let them live their own lives free of male influence and they will be encouraged to be whores more than ever.

>Psycholgy argument

Why don't screen people of both genders then? Since it's all about psychology not about gender. But noooo...
Don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.
A true egalitarian society
Doesn’t exist and shouldn’t either.
will ensure that men and women will be treated as equals in the workplace and no indecent behaviour will be tolerated!
Foids will always be whores no matter what. I thought this was common knowledge on this forum.
Women molded men into what they are. Male behavior is literally directly influenced by female behavior, the opposite is not true

>Behave like men was never consistent
In all other mammals, males are the dominant and aggressive sex. It is foolish to believe that men and women are mentally identical by default.


Regardless, "masculinist" communists like you are a small minority as far as communists go, and history has shown that the USSR and the Eastern Bloc in general benefited women and were pioneers of feminism. Hell, it’s funny that you cry about the expandability of men in wars when in WW2 the Soviets sent millions of men to die on frontlines barely equipping and training them while foids were limited to support roles and rarely ever saw combat.
 
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The article literally mentions that men have superior spatial intelligence, the only type of intelligence that truly matters.
Men are slightly more creative. Ok. That does not mean women cannot perform basic tasks.
Thanks to christcuck slave morality, the West was well on its way to becoming cucked in the 19th century. In ancient Athens, women were legally considered property, were not allowed to be educated and were completely excluded from public life.
And the men?

They were conscripted, forced to work hard labor, and forced to provide for their wives by law

Btw, these articles completely debunk the existence of """patriarchy"""

Women's in-group bias is 4.5 times larger than men's, men have an out-group bias.

Male behavior is influenced by female behavior, but not the opposite


How can patriarchy exist, when women effectively mold men?

Exceptions do not disprove the rule. War is a masculine activity and there’s nothing wrong with that.
kys, you're literally proving my point, you want to kill other men to pander to women. You're a woman worshipper.
Also, initiating a war as head of state is the same as fighting in one.
Foids for the most part make bad soldiers. They’d be liabilities if anything.
And conscripts? Do unwilling men make good soldiers?

Did the starving men in Stalingrad make good soldiers?

Did the child soldiers serving in nazi germany make good soldiers?


Again, do bullets care about your upper body mass?
Why have equal rights with foids when you can have institutionalized male supremacy like in ancient Athens? Abolishing all their rights and reducing their legal status to the property of men is the only way to keep them in check. Let them live their own lives free of male influence
Contradiction to your statement below
and they will be encouraged to be whores more than ever.
Never happened, male supremacy never existed. Its a cope revenge fantasy made up by right-wing men. Gender roles were literally created by women. Did women need the vote? No they didn't. In fact they opposed it because it came with the draft which they evaded anyway.


Don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.
Retarded argument, if psychology is the argument, not sex
Then every conscript should be psychologically screened then.

You're ok with men getting blasted to bits, but not women. You worship and protect women like every right winger.
Doesn’t exist and shouldn’t either.
True gender equality is greatly beneficial for men.
Foids will always be whores no matter what. I thought this was common knowledge on this forum.
It is. I know they are. In true equality, women wouldn't be whores, just like men, because society will treat female sexuality just like male sexuality
In all other mammals, males are the dominant and aggressive sex. It is foolish to believe that men and women are mentally identical by default.
>Dominant

Literally killing each other for the approval of females

Regardless, "masculinist" communists like you are a small minority as far as communists go, and history has shown that the USSR and the Eastern Bloc in general benefited women and were pioneers of feminism. Hell, it’s funny that you cry about the expandability of men in wars when in WW2 the Soviets sent millions of men to die on frontlines barely equipping
Thats a consequence of the great purge and not communism itself.
and training them while foids were limited to support roles and rarely ever saw combat.
Im a MRA. Im not a commumist. I would be apolitical if not for the mrm.

Communists claimed that men oppressed women into slave gender roles. Its the very opposite.

Communism did not fail btw. Despite what some copers say

@GeckoBus
 
Heil Christ Heil HitlER Long Live Saint Elliot
 
Men are slightly more creative. Ok. That does not mean women cannot perform basic tasks.

And the men?

They were conscripted, forced to work hard labor, and forced to provide for their wives by law

Btw, these articles completely debunk the existence of """patriarchy"""

Women's in-group bias is 4.5 times larger than men's, men have an out-group bias.

Male behavior is influenced by female behavior, but not the opposite


How can patriarchy exist, when women effectively mold men?


kys, you're literally proving my point, you want to kill other men to pander to women. You're a woman worshipper.


And conscripts? Do unwilling men make good soldiers?

Did the starving men in Stalingrad make good soldiers?

Did the child soldiers serving in nazi germany make good soldiers?


Again, do bullets care about your upper body mass?

Contradiction to your statement below

Never happened, male supremacy never existed. Its a cope revenge fantasy made up by right-wing men. Gender roles were literally created by women. Did women need the vote? No they didn't. In fact they opposed it because it came with the draft which they evaded anyway.



Retarded argument, if psychology is the argument, not sex
Then every conscript should be psychologically screened then.

You're ok with men getting blasted to bits, but not women. You worship and protect women like every right winger.

True gender equality is greatly beneficial for men.

It is. I know they are. In true equality, women wouldn't be whores, just like men, because society will treat female sexuality just like male sexuality

>Dominant

Literally killing each other for the approval of females


Thats a consequence of the great purge and not communism itself.

Im a MRA. Im not a commumist. I would be apolitical if not for the mrm.

Communists claimed that men oppressed women into slave gender roles. Its the very opposite.

Communism did not fail btw. Despite what some copers say

@GeckoBus
yes you made good points. I am tired of pointing people to the sources on this, most of them can be found in this thread dump of mine:


also this great website with tons of sources:


Women were always allowed to work in all fields, exception being the ones they truly couldnt or didnt want to do - soldiers, giga hard labor. But even in fields we tend to think of as hard labor, women were represented in significant numbers - mining, agriculture, brewing was dominated by women for a long time, women had a monopoly on alcohol production.

The law has also always favored women, the earliest records of law make room for alimony payments the man has to pay to his wife upon divorce:

The Code of Hammurabi (1754 BC) declares that a man must provide sustenance to a woman who has borne him children so that she can raise them:

137. If a man wish to separate from a woman who has borne him children, or from his wife who has borne him children: then he shall give that wife her dowry, and a part of the usufruct of field, garden, and property, so that she can rear her children. When she has brought up her children, a portion of all that is given to the children, equal as that of one son, shall be given to her. She may then marry the man of her heart.[3]

This is also a great book with many sources:


The idea that women were historically oppressed is a male fantasy. We like to think that we can somehow dominate women, that women are somehow inferior to us. And yet, our fantasies mostly boil down to us literally just killing other men, competing with other men, taking all the burdens of life upon us while our dearly beloved neets at home, birthing us children we provide her through great, performance sex. Does not sound like oppression to me jfl. Besides, even in the 1800s, women were providing 40-50% of household earnings, as you can read (with sources) on the greenpill.net website:

Between 1787 to 1815 in families with unemployed children (!) wives earned 41 percent of household income. [28]

Aside from this, there is a bunch of evidence pointing to women having a giga fucking in-group preference compared to men, which essentially turns them into mafia organization that single male cant do shit against:


It is also remarkable that women are the onces enforcing the classic gender norms of the man being the provider and the woman the receiver:


When you read the greenpill article and then look at other shit like this:


You realize that women literally invented what we tend to think of as "traditionalism" because it benefited them at the time. Women during the industrial revolution fought tooth and nail to get out of the workforce, only to claim they had been kept out of it for millennia by men, 2 generations later.

Early feminists literally rallied under the banner that women, especially mothers, should not have to work. Thats why legal texts like the irish constitution literally have laws stating that mothers ought not to work. It was foid worship, not oppression. Imagine the US congress passed a law that fathers should not be allowed to work, to "protect them" from the perils of labor. It would be absurd.

It is a fucking joke. The whole white picked fence shit, where the guy provides for his wife and kids on one income - thats a pipedream that existed for a few decades of extreme prosperity. For most of history, people had to live in piles, sharing space and dividing labor between as many people as possible.

Women had to work, children had to work, it was a matter of survival. We are just going back to that.

Btw, women back then were not retarded. They knew they had privileges, and they defended those privileges. Contrary to popular belief, women opposed female rights back in the day. They knew that rights = responsibilities. Beforehand, women could not even be held legally liable for procuring debt or other crimes - the husband was punished for his wives crimes instead. This is what is truly meant by the often misused idea that "men owned their wives." When a dog mauls a child, do we charge the dog with a crime? Or the owner? If you "own" your wife and she is legally incapable of being guilty, who do you think is gonna be responsible for her shit? Yes, you.

Under the common law of ‘coverture’, which existed in England from at least 1660 to the 19th century, and in America until 1839 “A wife was entitled to be maintained by her husband” – if she got into any debts, the husband had to pay them. If he refused, he could be imprisoned in debtors prison. Wives could not be sued or imprisoned for debt.
Men were responsible for paying women’s income tax for much longer, and this was exploited by suffragettes to send their husbands to jail simply by her refusing to pay tax.
An article from 1912 notes [52]:
Under the married women property act a husband has no jurisdiction over his wife’s property and income. Under the income tax he is responsible for her taxes. If the taxes are not paid, the husband, not the wife, is imprisoned. Mrs. Wilks refused to pay her income tax – $185 – and her husband was locked up. He will spend the rest of his life in prison unless his wife pays or the law is changed.

Oh you think, I can just beat her ass. No. If you beat her ass, you are blamed. If she beats your ass, you are blamed too. Society is inherently gynocentric:


Here is another good thread with sources where this is detailed:

The whipping post also was a favourite form of punishment for wife-beating. Many examples of vigilante justice, sometimes lethal, enacted against wifebeaters can be found in newspaper clippings from the 1800s and onward, with the full endorsement of society.
However, if a husband was beaten by his wife - the husband, in contrast, was also the subject of the charivari for essentially allowing it to happen. In France about 1400, husbands beaten by their wives were “paraded on an ass, face to tail.” In England, a mural in Montacute House (constructed about 1598) shows a wife beating her husband with a shoe and then a crowd parading the husband on a cowlstaff.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/edyrf5/a_compilation_of_evidence_debunking_feminist/


Again, if you have followed along so far and you get the in-group preference shit aka
- that men have negative bias towards men but have positive bias towards women
- that women have positive bias towards women and negative bias towards men AS WELL
- that both genders worship women but detest men

Then the above makes perfect sense. You beat your wife as the man - you are guilty. She beats you - you are guilty.
We still see this today when society constantly takes womens side over mens side, in the most ridiculous fashion. Like how they complain about the amount of women being killed, speaking of "an epidemic of female murders" when 90% of homicide victims are male.

There are such avalanche tier amounts of information on this topic, debunking the idea that women were historically somehow oppressed and men "dominated" women, I can't even get started. The YT channel "a shield for men" does insane in depth work on this, always providing countless sources for all his claims:



Society is build on male exploitation. Anyone who glories in women leeching off men in the sense of, "oh women are so weak ho ho, they need us, we are superior to women ho ho" does not get it. Just gender swap. Imagine a bunch of men leeched of other men for free, and these other men did nothing. In fact, they felt EMPOWERED by the other men leeching off them. They felt "masculine" by surrendering their resources, time, mental energy to these other men. It would be madness.

But anyway, I have said enough. I think the idea that gender relations in our time or anywhere globally are substantially different from the past is ridiculous and usually not founded in any historical analysis. People can point to ancient greece for example and claim women had no rights, but they fucking ignore that 90% of people back then had no rights. The vast majority of roman and greek people did not even have citizenship. Like 10% of society had rights, everyone else was a slave.

Further, some societies, like the spartans, were known for liberal treatment of women and being cucked by their women. This is another pattern you can readily observe - the more "masculine" the society, the more hostile it is towards men. Modern examples are places like russia, oven glorified by right wingers as this, "masculine trad country," while having a giga high male suicide rate. Or look at ethnics, who literally go ER on you when you insult their mom. The more stereotypically masculine a society is, the more men suffer from increased male on male violence and competition, depression and suicide rate.

Your "masculine" male ancestors were also coping alcoholics btw. Yes, they did physical labor and they coped by smoking and drinking to die earlier from it. To feel empowered by such drudgery and physical slavery is mental illness. "Oh look im destroying my body so the goddess can validate me, im so masculine and strong ho ho" - while never wondering where he got these ideals from in the first place. Who shames you when you dont follow these? And why?

Why can you loose the man card but not the woman card?:


You can not take a womans confidence and identity away, since it is grounded in being female. But a man can be a soy, a nu-male, a beta, a neckbard, an incel - notice the amount of insults alone that exist to shame men into compliance, whereas there are almost none for women.

Anyway, enough. I am working myself over this. If you want, just grab a copy of "the manipulated man" by esther vilar, a foid, who wrote about all of this shit in 1970. She didnt have access to any of the data I provided, but her claims all line up perfectly with the now available historical and empirical findings. I am actually shocked, since I am currently re-reading her book and I didnt even realize how close she was. She must have written from experience as a woman.

Good Night.
 
Further, some societies, like the spartans, were known for liberal treatment of women and being cucked by their women.
Ancient Sparta was utterly insane place, I was flabbergasted when history or geography foid teacher started giving on what these niggas were up to (up until then my only understanding of that society was from that meme movie), first wikipedia article I could find:
To contemporaries outside of Sparta, Spartan women had a reputation for promiscuity and controlling their husbands.
According to Plutarch, Spartans practiced infanticide as a matter of course if children were thought to be unhealthy. It is unclear whether this applied to girls as well as boys, though evidence from elsewhere in Plutarch and Xenophon implies that it did not.
Unlike their male counterparts, Spartan girls would have been raised at home with their mothers while undergoing their education.
*Note, Spartan schools were brutal as fuck, being raised at home was a huge privilege.
There is some evidence in ancient sources that the Spartans practiced polygyny.
Along with plural marriage, Xenophon states that older men with younger wives were encouraged to allow younger, more fit men impregnate their wives, in order to produce stronger children.
Wtf lmao, expectations:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Prc1UfuokY

Reality:
Sparta

Therefore, women were more preoccupied with governance, agriculture, logistics and other sustenance tasks.
Literally 1:1 as it is today, all men save for few genetically or materially (richfag parents, generational wealth) privileged are slaving in shit jobs while all intellectual and cozy office jobs are hogged by women.
Spartan women did not simply celebrate their sons who had shown bravery and mourn when they had not, but they were crucial in enforcing social consequences for cowardly men. When Pausanias, a traitor to Sparta, took refuge in a sanctuary to Athena, his mother Theano is said to have taken a brick and placed it in the doorway. Following this example, the Spartans bricked up the temple door with Pausanias inside.
Again, 1:1 as it is today, it's always women enforcing all societal stigmas first and foremost, rest of soyciety just follows.
Alcman’s Partheneia or ‘maiden song’ was among the earliest documents discovered to express homoerotic sentiments between women. This was performed as choral hymns by young women in Sparta, and the piece was probably commissioned by the state to be performed publicly.

Alcman’s poem has a verse where the younger choral girls admire their older choral leaders who invoke admiration and also inspires these erotic sentiments. The women describe the way that eros (sexual desire) for their choral leaders has taken over their bodies.
Of course they were openly lesbo too, it's like playing bingo at this point.

There is tonne of shit like this about sparta.
 
Ancient Sparta was utterly insane place, I was flabbergasted when history or geography foid teacher started giving on what these niggas were up to (up until then my only understanding of that society was from that meme movie), first wikipedia article I could find:



*Note, Spartan schools were brutal as fuck, being raised at home was a huge privilege.


Wtf lmao, expectations:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Prc1UfuokY

Reality:
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Literally 1:1 as it is today, all men save for few genetically or materially (richfag parents, generational wealth) privileged are slaving in shit jobs while all intellectual and cozy office jobs are hogged by women.

Again, 1:1 as it is today, it's always women enforcing all societal stigmas first and foremost, rest of soyciety just follows.

Of course they were openly lesbo too, it's like playing bingo at this point.

There is tonne of shit like this about sparta.

:bigbrain: :bigbrain: :bigbrain: giga iq reply and also beyond kekfuel. Oh my patriarchy! Women were so oppressed that they didn't have to go through traumatic torture, eugenics sexual mind control abuse like the evil men, who were clearly suppressing them! :lul::lul::lul:

Like imagine a society where foids were systematically raised to be sex slaves for men, it would be insane. Interesting that this has never happened, instead we just see variations of women controlling men. Shieet its almost like women are the dominant gender?



I also heard that athenians would say like, the spartans only fuck their wifes in the dark and the wifes cut their hair short, cuz spartan men are so gay and used to fucking men, that they cant get hard for women. Oh yeah, its in the article you linked JFLLLLLLLLL:

Marriage ritual​

On the night of the wedding, the bride would have her hair cut short and be dressed in a man's cloak and sandals. The bride appeared dressed like a man or a young boy to be perceived as less threatening to her husband.

In Sparta [...] the cropping of the bride’s hair and transvestism likely aimed to transform her temporarily into an adolescent Spartan boy – a less threatening figure to the groom, who probably had made his own transition to adulthood via a close emotional and sexual relationship with an older male and was now in the position to sexually initiate other boys into Spartan society.[43]
:lul::lul::lul:

NO COMMENT HOLY KEKKKK

it's like playing bingo at this point.
Every "masculine trad" society is exactly like this, it just varies in degrees. Look places like russia, which are held up as "trad" and "masculine" - giga foid worship, giga high male suicide rate etc. These socities are always giga foid worshipping and ultra hostile to men.

Look at islam and the middle east for another example. Any ethnic will tell you, insulting someones mom is the worst shit in these socities. And the male on male hostility is giga high. They even do the spartan thing about fucking little boys in the ass.


Bacha bāzī (Persian: بچه بازی, lit. 'boy play')[1] is a practice in which men (sometimes called bacha baz) buy and keep adolescent boys, or dancing boys, for entertainment and sex.[2][3] Pederasty is a custom in Afghanistan and often involves sexual slavery and child prostitution by older men of young adolescent males.[4][citation needed]

Also this thread, which shows that the typical extremely violent vigilante justice against men was prevalent in the west too just a century ago:


They used to mutilate, lynch and abuse "wife beaters," contrary what we are told today. Just like you can see new videos of men getting tortured and killed coming out of south america, russia, asia and africa every day on gore sites. Its hilarious to me when people talk about the supposed golden age of patriarchy that somehow existed in the past. Nigga, there are tons of societies all around us that literally live like people used to live in the west. Billions of people in the world have never even used internet:


Thats a sample size of BILLIONS
BILLIONS OF HUMANS LIVING LIKE WE USED TO IN 1800s.
And what are their societies like? Hyper violent shitholes, giga male disposability, ultra foid worship, especially towards moms.

I swear we will go back to something like that in the west. I have some hypothesis. I think they will ban more and more sexual outlets for guys. Homosexuality will increase as guys get less pussy but they will blame the jews or something. The jew is just a market force responding to demand from larger population. Just like the spartan men resorted to fucking each other in the ass, so western men will resort to fucking each other, because women wont put out, and any other releases like porn will be blocked by foids.

However, paradoxically men as a whole will be blamed for this, thus spiking male on male hostility. Men will start abusing, bullying and committing increasingly violent acts of vigilante justice against other men, which will be supported by society. We already see the beginnings of this now, with all the pedo hysteria, pedo hunting groups, men calling each other ever new names signifying a "lack of masulinity" (i.e. soy, manchild, neckbheard, incels etc).

Womens standing and power will increase proportionally to this. The more men compete and fuck each other up, the more women profit, so they incentivize male-on-male violence. The right wingers right now won't see this coming. They think it will be a good thing. Notice how the current developments contradict each other, but they never mention this:

One one hand, there is increasing censorship of porn and other things. On the other, homosexuality and other shit is increasing. This is not because of polarization, these are two sides of the same coin. Both are effects of increasing anti-male sentiment in society. Society is not becoming less degenerate, there is just a power shift in favor of women. Notice for example, people only care about male homosexuals and trannies, not lesbians. All the aggression is aimed at male degenerates. All the trad-cucks and so called "manosphere" dudes online, which are wrongly labeld as anti-female power, are actually the biggest foid worshippers.

These anti foid podcasts make millions of female halo, and the women even admit this publicly. The foids that go on podcasts like whatever openly admit they make like 80k dollars for one time going on there. Andrew Tate made his money by using foid halo.

Look here where a foid admits it at 16:34:


View: https://youtu.be/5mygPV1gtbw?t=994


Notice how neither side blames women, they just worship women in different ways by pushing more attention, more resources etc in their way.
Women know this, they are not dumb. Thats why they agree to be "roasted" on these podcasts. They know men better than men know women.
Like, men dont get this: One of womens biggest manipulation methods is triggering the man into a reaction she can control.

Thats why they dress like hoes to fuck with their dad, thats why they bring bad guys home. Thats why they love drama shows and start shit over nothing - women LOVE drama, because to a woman, all attention is positive attention. They always profit, and they know it. So all of this "calling out" of women does nothing, its just covert foid worship.

Notice that through history, men have always complained about foids, but never did shit about it. They wrote books, they talked trash, but at the end of the day, they always were afraid to actually act on it. Barking dogs dont bite is like the biggest thing when it comes to male vs female relations. Women DO, men BARK.

From this we can easily infer the direction society is headed - it can only be one of more foid worship and increase anti-male hostility. It has never changed. Thats why women in the past initially opposed female rights and even shit like abortion. From their perspective, these were massive L's. Only when women understood that they could profit from this shit too, they accepted it.
 
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