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Blackpill Masculinity is an actual social construct and More - Studies

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"You're not a real woman!"
Said no one ever.
Why?
Why does that only work on men?
The answer is two-fold

1. women have inherent value, you can't loose your woman card because being a woman is synonymous with having female flesh.
2. masculinity as its propagated by women and society largely harms men and benefits women.

According to this study, you actually need to work constantly to maintain your status as a "real man" - Sisyphus anyone?

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I will now explain point 1 and 2 a bit more in detail:

1. Why do Women have more value
a) TL;DR Water Wet, the only thing that makes a woman a woman is her looks

I don't believe in evo-psych sorry. I think it's even completely unnecessary to recount elaborate fables for certain human behaviors, when the same behaviors could simply be explained by narcissism.

Besides, the entire discussion usually slips into female-worship when you bring up evolution, because the implication that for instance "men are disposable" implies that all women are somehow 10/10 genetically perfect and healthy creatures, since the majority of them reproduce. So all women have perfect genes, and if we just let women reproduce with chads, everyone would be 10/10?

This is retarded and foid worship. Especially given that the fetus spends 9 months inside the foid growing, yet somehow only the males sperm is responsible for ALL the traits the child has? Again, foid worship because it leaves the females responsibility out of the equation. If anything the health and nutritional profile of the mother is WAY more important than DNA. Look into nutrition please, "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Weston A. Price is a good starting point. Your looks are mostly shaped by factors such as maternal nutrition, breastfeeding, correct chewing, swallowing and breathing patterns etc.

Good article on the suppression of medical data showing that animal fats are good for you:

Neoteny in women is also often not the result of sexual dimorphism but simply nutritional degeneration. It is just not as apparent in women because women, unlike men, profit from looking neotenous. If the genders were healthy and fully developed after being raised on the correct diet, sexual dimorphism would be reduced greatly.

"Sorry sweaty its just natural selection" - so why does the majority of women reproduce? This is a simple logical fallacy, which, if brought to its conclusion, implies women somehow are more healthy, genetically superior and smarter than men. This is foid-worship, without a doubt.

So, I propose an alternative theory for why women are more valued, with a different starting presupposition:

1. Men respond to neoteny in any form, puppies, children, women with parental instinct (origin of instinct is debatable)
2. Women do everything in their power to exaggerate sexual dimorphism and increase neoteny (Esther Vilar wrote about this in her 1971 book "The Manipulated Man")
3. The mechanism (for lack of a better word) that makes men forgive women, is the same mechanism that makes men forgive a dog for shitting on the rug.

Dogs, btw, are nutritionally deficient mutants bred to look retarded and neotenous. It's literally like having a down syndrome child in your home, but on purpose. Women anyone?
3 million dog bites that need medical attention in US every year, yet nobody cares. Why? Neoteny, the dog is never blamed. If it was a hyena people would put it through meat grinder and applaud the person doing it.
It's the same mechanism that shields women from blame. It's just their looks. Stupid example to make a point: If a woman looked like a man, but acted the same, would her behavior be remotely acceptable? No, of course not -> ALWAYS genderswap in your head. Use faceapp on bitches to see what they would look like as men, then you can tell their actual nature. Some bitches look like thugs when genderswapped and their behavior always matches the looks.

So, the only thing that keeps women from getting their register pounded six days from tomorrow is their looks. Obviously.

b) INSANE female in-group bias (4.5 times the one men have, men have ZERO - study below)

Now, this one is less discussed and may come as a surprise to some here.
1. women are the only group in society that has innate in-group preference for their own gender
2. this means women naturally form a "herd" or "hive"
3. women trust women; men trust women; men fight men; ->society

That means, society is only women. Men fighting to get female validation is an attempt to get BACK into society.
ALL men are viewed as and out-group by both men and women. Every man is a stranger effectively.
The only way to get away from this, is by being accepted by women. If one woman accepts you, all do and thus, you are part of society (which is only women).
That's why people always act suspicious around single males, but not around men with women.

What that means for us is that the female in-group dictates which traits men need to display to get access to their in-group. Aka, women define what masculinity is.
As always, everything women say is projection.
Femininity is a social construct, designed to encourage certain behaviors in men by negation. These behaviors are then called "Masculinity."

Example:
Women act weak and helpless, there for its Masculine to be strong and help women (Female hypoagency).
This is also a classic manipulation tactic. The easiest way to manipulate people is by giving them what they want, because people don't question compliments (Just world fallacy + Fundamental Attribution Error).

What they do is basically pretend to be weak so the man feels empowered in his pseudo "masculinity" (which is only contingent on women liking him). That makes the man feel powerful and in charge, while she is actually in power and retains plausible deniability.

In reality, women are extremely powerful. This can not be stated enough. Women are infinitely more powerful than men. Their in-group preference alone makes them unstoppable. Imagine having 50% of society unconditionally supporting you + simps worshipping you and ready to kill another man at your order.

The reason why women project that there has to be a patriarchy is because it matches their IRL experience of life.
They constantly cheat the system by getting support from other women. They are like the mafia, but its half of society + simps as their cronies.


Additionally, women control 80% of customer spending or more, depending on sector:


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This statistic alone should send shivers down your spine.
The implication here is that 40% of the money women spend comes from men, AT THE VERY LEAST.
Furthermore, women hold most of the wealth.

More studies here:

An additional study where they made men and women play an online RPG together. After some time, the women held the majority of the resources and power, while engaging in less risk taking behavior (fighting, dying, competing) -> men gave them all their resources. Even in a video game.

It is immediately clear that females accumulate significantly more wealth (H0 rejected at 4 sigma level), i.e. credits, than males. At the same time male players experience significantly more deaths (rejection at 2 sigmas), due to more risk-taking and/or aggressive behavior. This points at a much larger engagement of females in economic, rather than destructive activities

Females show homophily, males are heterophiles​

This means exactly what it sounds like.
4.5 in-group preference = women form a large, coherent hive-body with no individualism. This also makes them lesbian.
Men fuck each other. Up.
TL;DR of study:
1. women have much higher in-group bias for other women, communicate much more, have stronger networks to support each other - sisterhood mafia, women are jews
2. men kill each other but paradoxically trust women instantly and surrender all their resources to them
3. as result women are extremely empowered with both males serving them and providing them with resources while women take zero risks of their own
4. society. study link below.



That means, women are in total control of society on any level. They dictate beliefs, thoughts, how men view themselves, who gets big on social media, they dictate the entire market through their spending etc...
I want you to pay attention on livestreams, where the money comes from when they do superchats and shit.

I think even Karl Marx wrote that you can't start a revolution with men. You kickstart the foids first and the men follow.

It all comes down to something we all are familar with: Briffaults law
Briffault's law states:
"The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place."

Now, in the light of all of the above, consider the insane power women hold in society. It's truly staggering how powerless men are.
Please think about this:
How pathetic, I can't stress this enough, HOW PATHETIC is it to tell young men to "just go to the gym" in the light of this?
How absolutely comical is it to make young men participate in a race this rigged?

The biggest pill is the genderpill: IF YOU ARE BORN MALE ITS OVER
That's why "masculinity" doesn't exist outside the context of what women want, that's why you can loose it. It's a passport to society that can be revoked by women at any time. It's a conditional surrender of your individuality and dignity in favor of women.

LASTLY: IF YOU CHASE MONEY, YOU ALSO SERVE WOMEN
If it isn't obvious at this point:

1. women control all the wealth, directly and indirectly
2. if you want to be successful in any way financially, you have to cater to women
3. by chasing money you indirectly support women by providing them services and further exploiting men
4. to chase money means to compete with other men for female validation, women don't compete like that, they support each other (4.5 in-group pref)
5. women act just like jewsh with their retarded-tier high in-group preference and nepotism. If you go along with this, you're a jew. A female with a male body would just be jew tbh.

Chasing money is a feminine trait. It's female centered, it serves females, it gets you female attention -> its feminine

There's a reason why it says in the Gospels, you can either serve God or Mammon, not both. A man can only have one master.

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
- Matthew 6:24, KJV

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High quality and high IQ thread. I agree with every single point.

Very nice.

I also noticed in school how fat and ugly girls and popular girls sat at the same table and were friends. I was baffled. This would be unthinkable with males. Chads tried to get as far away as possible from anyone who is seen as weird or ugly.
 
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Read all of it.

Everything you have said here is objectively right, but you still should try to moneymaxx for your own well being

It's the first time I see a shitskin do such a high iq thread. Congratulations I guess
 
LASTLY: IF YOU CHASE MONEY, YOU ALSO SERVE WOMEN
If it isn't obvious at this point:

1. women control all the wealth, directly and indirectly
2. if you want to be successful in any way financially, you have to cater to women
3. by chasing money you indirectly support women by providing them services and further exploiting men
4. to chase money means to compete with other men for female validation, women don't compete like that, they support each other (4.5 in-group pref)
5. women act just like jewsh with their retarded-tier high in-group preference and nepotism. If you go along with this, you're a jew. A female with a male body would just be jew tbh.
What about waging to make money for yourself (basic necessitates and commodities like whores)? You would probably say that escortmaxxing is supporting women, however it is much cheaper and less burdensome for a man to get sexual release this way than to enslave himself in marriage.
 
Good post. Fully agree.
 
What about waging to make money for yourself (basic necessitates and commodities like whores)? You would probably say that escortmaxxing is supporting women, however it is much cheaper and less burdensome for a man to get sexual release this way than to enslave himself in marriage.
understandable. imo what you are saying is not really an objection.
Maybe I shouldve clarified in my OP, but basically when I say "chasing money" Im not saying become homeless and die. I mean these dudes that literally treat money like the golden grail, you know? Especially redpillers.

I support paying whores to get your rocks off. Whores will also tell you shit about women and men. Im sure if youre a blackpileld whoremaxxer, with each whore-visit you just become more and more blackpilled until you become vantablack.

Support yourself, dont support the system. That can be a fine line.
 
> JoinedApr 19, 2023
> Masculinity is an actual social construct

:feelsseriously:
 
We're all '23 cels here chico :smonk:
 
Extremely High IQ user

Its great to see that someone acknowledgeds that we're born ugly because of the degeneration that our species have been through in the past thousands of years.

Retards believe that "its just genetics". 95% of humans have crooked teeth and a deformed skull. In no way natural selection would have allowed that.

Reading Weston Price's work is paramount to properly understand the blackpill
 
Good thread, sorry that it takes a while to respond I'm wage slaving rn.
You also see this pattern of hating other men here, and I'm starting to think that it's all manufactured to divide us.
 
Extremely High IQ user

Its great to see that someone acknowledgeds that we're born ugly because of the degeneration that our species have been through in the past thousands of years.

Retards believe that "its just genetics". 95% of humans have crooked teeth and a deformed skull. In no way natural selection would have allowed that.

Reading Weston Price's work is paramount to properly understand the blackpill
lmao at people invoking DNA all the time when even the hypersoy WHO reports that 2/3 of children worldwide are not even breastfed for the recommended time of 6 months, 6 months being too little already as you surely know.

Like jfl. at thinking chads mom could eat pizza all day and still make a chad, this is such foid worship holy fuck. Thats why I dont like these arguments, they fall apart in like 2 steps of thinking. "Men are disposable" - how many fucking times do you hear that and how many times does this claim go unchallenged? So ALL women are valuable? ALL women are capable of making chads? And if we just let chads fuck ALL women, everyone would be chad?
This is simultaneous foid worship and misandry. Somehow the man is 100% responsible and the woman is perfect and 100% irresponsible.

Besides, a lot of the DNA shit people bring up is retarded. People dont understand how worldviews shape our own confirmation bias. For instance, I saw something on twin studies recently and I looked up the studies and they literally omitted the control group. Like what?
It was fucking ridiculous.
There was other fudgery as well.

Basically, every time any claims are made, you have to look at counter-arguments to your own view immediately. When it comes to purely intellectual stuff like philosophical argumentation, this is not necessary as the evidence is in the logical justifcations given but with other things, its not that easy.

I have literally looked into retarded shit like pollution being real, because I dont trust anything anymore. Every single side has an interested in pollution being real. Yet for a lot of shit there isnt even evidence. For example, some say Asbestos wasnt even toxic. It was a jew insurance scam that made people billions of dollars for the removal of the shit. But different interest groups will hijack the same story for their own views.
You cant trust anything.

For instance, another one is dropping fertility rates. Most of the time men are blamed somehow. Nobody ever goes, women are becoming infertile from birth control, drug abuse, lifestyle choices and constant rodeo of getting STD-Medicating, STD-Medicating...
Stuff like that just makes me suspicious as fuck.

very old website that got me interested in asbestos:

Links about how asbestos damage court cases and asbestos removal is a billion dollar clusterfuck making kikes rich:

 
Good thread, sorry that it takes a while to respond I'm wage slaving rn.
You also see this pattern of hating other men here, and I'm starting to think that it's all manufactured to divide us.
oh 100%, every time men even REMOTELY start forming a coherent in-group, they are attacked and dispersed, rinse and repeat. Everyone who has been online for long enough has seen dozens of communities fall to this. Female infiltrators are part of it usually.
 
Read every word ( without irony ).
Some of the most unjust and ragefuel things which everyone accepts in the soyciety:

1) female manipulation. I see women walking with full huge bags from supermarket, I see some of them shoving furniture at work.
But if they pretend to be weak and ask a man for help or carry some stuff, everyone accepts it as natural without saying: 'hey, why don't you do it by yourself?'.
Imagine a man asking other man to help him carry a bag?

2) soyciety's indifference to male suffering. No need to explain. No one says to woman : 'woman up' when she feels bad or has troubles in life.

Also, idea of that constitutes 'real man' constantly changes. In XIX century a poet writing about his feelings was definitely a 'real man'. Not so much in our times.
 
Read every word ( without irony ).
Some of the most unjust and ragefuel things which everyone accepts in the soyciety:

1) female manipulation. I see women walking with full huge bags from supermarket, I see some of them shoving furniture at work.
But if they pretend to be weak and ask a man for help or carry some stuff, everyone accepts it as natural without saying: 'hey, why don't you do it by yourself?'.
Imagine a man asking other man to help him carry a bag?

2) soyciety's indifference to male suffering. No need to explain. No one says to woman : 'woman up' when she feels bad or has troubles in life.

Also, idea of that constitutes 'real man' constantly changes. In XIX century a poet writing about his feelings was definitely a 'real man'. Not so much in our times.
1) ive seen shit like that when I still had a job
this foid walked in our room, 2 men there. Shes carrying a box, puts it down, says oh it so heavy. Look around. Everybody is focused on their shit. Im watching from corner of my eye. Bitch looks, looks, picks up box and just walks away.
Complete larp.

another time she pretended to get something, walked into kitchen, drank a coffee and then came back and said she cant find it, they should send one of us (men)

Dont get me wrong they are weak as shit, but they arent that weak JFL, they constantly exaggerate how weak and retarded they are to manipulate you into doing shit for them. They are actually terrifyingly calculated under all that shit - psychos man.

2) Exactly, its arbitrary. The hoops they invent to make buxxers jump through to get accepted by foids are completely arbitrary. Like in roman times, they actually thought small dicks are cute, big dicks are offensive. Lol if you think thats true but this is probably what they told dudes.

If you believe this sounds unrealistic, in the 1800s Kellogs advertised their cereal as lowering your sex drive. You have to really make a distinction between what society virtue signals about and the underlying human nature, which is always the same. People literally think the victorians were prudes when they had an insane number of prostitutes, like 100s of 1000s, child prostitution up the ass and so on. It was extremely degenerate. People will say anything to fit in and then act the complete opposite.

Remember, pretending to be a certain way = being that way for normies. They think being a good virtue signaller = being virtuous, they are fucking idiots. I remember being in school few years ago, trade school, so grown people.

And we talked about that shit in bible where Jesus says you shouldnt virtue signal ("dont let your left hand know what your right hand is doing", pray in secret, dont pray in public, let nobody know if you do good deeds - morality is what you do when nobody is looking etc).

And they literally couldnt grasp the distinction and I think neither did the teacher (he was an open homosexual, you can find him online, advertising for LGBQT shit in catholic church).

On another occasion, a foid in same class went on about how we have to be inclusive of mental illness and so on. I shit you not, 20 minutes later we had another class and she was sitting at table next to mine with 3 other sluts and openly shat on an autistic guy at their job (they mentioned he had autism).

They see nothing wrong with this.

They have no concept of permanent beliefs. They are all moral relativists. You can fuck them in the ass with 1-2 questions, just ask them why? why is that true and how do you know that?
They never know. Why is that good? Why is that bad?
They just echo some shit because like retarded monkeys, if you say something people reward you for, you keep saying it.
Its walmart-worldview shit, they just spout slogans. Slogan worldview.

So yeah, they dont care about shit. They dont care about you and shit.

If theres a dying man laying in the gutter, the probability of people helping that person DECREASES the more people walk by him because nobody wants to stand out and take the first step.

Its like how you can talk to normies 101 and they aggree with you and then they just revert back to their old self the moment another person joins. They have no spine or IQ.
 
oh 100%, every time men even REMOTELY start forming a coherent in-group, they are attacked and dispersed, rinse and repeat. Everyone who has been online for long enough has seen dozens of communities fall to this. Female infiltrators are part of it usually.
True. It's all so frustrating. I can see why you want to give up. That's what they want us to do, however.
 
lmao at people invoking DNA all the time when even the hypersoy WHO reports that 2/3 of children worldwide are not even breastfed for the recommended time of 6 months, 6 months being too little already as you surely know.

Like jfl. at thinking chads mom could eat pizza all day and still make a chad, this is such foid worship holy fuck. Thats why I dont like these arguments, they fall apart in like 2 steps of thinking. "Men are disposable" - how many fucking times do you hear that and how many times does this claim go unchallenged? So ALL women are valuable? ALL women are capable of making chads? And if we just let chads fuck ALL women, everyone would be chad?
This is simultaneous foid worship and misandry. Somehow the man is 100% responsible and the woman is perfect and 100% irresponsible.

Besides, a lot of the DNA shit people bring up is retarded. People dont understand how worldviews shape our own confirmation bias. For instance, I saw something on twin studies recently and I looked up the studies and they literally omitted the control group. Like what?
It was fucking ridiculous.
There was other fudgery as well.

Basically, every time any claims are made, you have to look at counter-arguments to your own view immediately. When it comes to purely intellectual stuff like philosophical argumentation, this is not necessary as the evidence is in the logical justifcations given but with other things, its not that easy.

I have literally looked into retarded shit like pollution being real, because I dont trust anything anymore. Every single side has an interested in pollution being real. Yet for a lot of shit there isnt even evidence. For example, some say Asbestos wasnt even toxic. It was a jew insurance scam that made people billions of dollars for the removal of the shit. But different interest groups will hijack the same story for their own views.
You cant trust anything.

For instance, another one is dropping fertility rates. Most of the time men are blamed somehow. Nobody ever goes, women are becoming infertile from birth control, drug abuse, lifestyle choices and constant rodeo of getting STD-Medicating, STD-Medicating...
Stuff like that just makes me suspicious as fuck.

very old website that got me interested in asbestos:

Links about how asbestos damage court cases and asbestos removal is a billion dollar clusterfuck making kikes rich:

Most based user on this site hands down
 
Put this thread in the must read @staff
 
I've been saying this for some time, patriarchy and societal conception of masculinity hurts us severely, because in the eyes of society we're not even real men.
 
Feminazi whores say that they are against patriarchy which is plain retarded because patriarchy is a foid creation and protects them from all blame. All feminazi cucks love patriarchy and love enforcing toxic chivalrous masculine archetype on men, so they can keep their privileges. Women are master manipulators, its how they have managed to survive this long and have 100℅ reproduction rate throughout history. As inferior and bottom most section of men, We must be against patriarchy, the notion of female defined( societal) masculinity. Look how Foids no matter how sjw react when a man expresses his feelings its as if we're not humans and must maintain a stoic ,unemotional demeanor around females. All Foids are same irrespective of their political or cultural affiliations, they all benefit from oppressing, in this capitalist world we cannot have a functioning society without oppression of a woman over another man. Females are inherently bourgeois scum that seeks to exploit us.
 
Remember, pretending to be a certain way = being that way for normies. They think being a good virtue signaller = being virtuous, they are fucking idiots. I remember being in school few years ago, trade school, so grown people.
Normies can't distinguish between being and appearance. For them an appearance IS the being. You have to larp constantly and convince others you have high self esteem which is usually done by talking as much as possible. It's icredibly larpey and gay.
They hate silence and they are wary of silent guys. For them men exist to entertain them. Abstaining from doing that is against the rules. If you are silent, they don't know in which box they can put you and they can't live without boxes. It allows them to quickly hop from person to person without really being interested in them. It's a very cruel and sociopathic system where the most indifferent wins.

Only feminine men thrive in society and are able to build a complex social web, because society is inherently feminine. Men are less interested in other people than women and more invested in their hobbies. It is foids who are endlessly fascinated by people. And why shouldn't they? They get free gifts and unconditional love from one half of the population and the other half too has their back. Impossible to fall through the social grid as a femoid.
 
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Only feminine men thrive in society and are able to build a complex social web, because society is inherently feminine. Men are less interested in other people than women and more invested in their hobbies. It is foids who are endlessly fascinated by people. And why shouldn't they? They get free gifts and unconditional love from one half of the population and the other half too has their back. Impossible to fall through the social grid as a femoid.
Forcing men to have good social skills is unnatural. It's akin to teaching faggotry.
 
Forcing men to have good social skills is unnatural. It's akin to teaching faggotry.
Ironically the friendliest people I have ever encountered were other autists. Normies are cold-blooded, calculating sociopaths.
 
Based post. Can you explain the phenomenon of gay men though? Foids seem to act buddy buddy with them. Rather than being seen as a stranger, women seem to like currying favor (gaining their validation) with them; rather than it being THEM currying favor with women like straight men do.
 
Ironically the friendliest people I have ever encountered were other autists. Normies are cold-blooded, calculating sociopaths.
Normies can't distinguish between being and appearance. For them an appearance IS the being. You have to larp constantly and convince others you have high self esteem which is usually done by talking as much as possible. It's icredibly larpey and gay.
They hate silence and they are wary of silent guys. For them men exist to entertain them. Abstaining from doing that is against the rules. If you are silent, they don't know in which box they can put you and they can't live without boxes. It allows them to quickly hop from person to person without really being interested in them. It's a very cruel and sociopathic system where the most indifferent wins.

Only feminine men thrive in society and are able to build a complex social web, because society is inherently feminine. Men are less interested in other people than women and more invested in their hobbies. It is foids who are endlessly fascinated by people. And why shouldn't they? They get free gifts and unconditional love from one half of the population and the other half too has their back. Impossible to fall through the social grid as a femoid.
@Gendocel
1. Yes, autists are much nicer and we also now have data that shows that virtue signalling is associated with dark triad traits, water wet.

Autists really cant hide their true feelings. Everything just comes out. I've had this discussion with normies where they explained to me how everyone just pretends to feel a certain way, depending on the situation. Virtue signalling. And when I was shocked, they said "but everyone can do that, and if you can't do that you're retarded." But I can literally not do that. My face = my current mood. I can't fake it.

I caused myself insane pain from this btw, because I was so on edge from interacting with double sided normies for years, I saw traps everywhere. So when I came into the blackpill spaces, which have lots of autists, I saw the boogieman behind every post. Inadvertently, i suspected some fellow autists of trying to backstab me and per-emptively attacked them, causing me and them tremendous psychological harm in the short- and long term.

In reality, they were just gullible idiots like me which can't hide anything from anyone. I was a like an abused dog, hiding in a corner from years of abuse and snapping at anyone trying to touch me. I can't imagine how mentally fucked up I would be now, without these communities, the people I talked to, the blackpill.

2. On your second post:
Silence is the name of the game. They can't cope with being alone. It's their kryptonite. One time my family accidentally ignored my mom for like 2 days (everyone was busy) and she literally fell into deep as fuck depression. Narcissists man, they literally sui if they loose their supply. Loosing one of their narcissistic supply IV-Bags is like loosing a limb for them. They are not people, merely the sum of their sources of attention. So cutting a source of attention = removing a part of their self.

Women are of course most guilty of this, but as you said in your second paragraph, plenty of hyper-socialized men act the same way. Just look at what happened during the lockdowns.

Forcing men to have good social skills is unnatural. It's akin to teaching faggotry.
@NorthernWind
I dont believe social skills exist.
I think its 100% looks and the only definition I would accept as "social skills" is that social skills is just acting according to your looks level.
Aka, if your a weak looking bitch like me, you're supposed to act the part.

Beyond that, all I've ever seen these "social skills" amount to is dark triad shit like
1. pretending to like people
2. faking emotions
3. mogging others physically or intellectually (HYPER CRINGE)
4. fitting in with the crowd by attacking the scapegoat
5. repeating trendy slogans about the holocaust - "we cant let that happen again"
6. more slogans "my body my choice," "be the change"

I think its hilarious that Patrick Batemen is such a strong normie meme at this point, yet they act EXACTLY like him. Like the scene where he listens to that trash pop song by Robert Palmer in the car "simply irresistible" I think, and his gf asks him wtf hes doing and he goes "I want to fit in."

That's normies. Everything is just a tool to manipulate validation out of others. It's not about the truth. Everything is used in the service of eliciting favors from others. Everything.
They only learn things or get interested in things as much as is necessary to leverage it socially.
That's why they never watch old animes for instance. They usually start watching anime because their friends did. They don't do anything that does not yield social returns.

The very idea of doing something simply because YOU enjoy it, and not because it has some social benefit, is insane to them. How many times do autists hear normies say shit like, "why do you care about that? thats such useless information?"

Bro, meanwhile they are getting vaxxed and follow the jew agenda and get turned to mincemeat on distant battlefields. Shit that could've been avoided by reading 1-2 books on geopolitics by their own fucking leaders, such as Henry Kissinger or Zbigniew Brzezinski.

That's what social skills amount to. It's dangerous.
You always have to discern and fight the spirit of the time you live in, it's a must.

Based post. Can you explain the phenomenon of gay men though? Foids seem to act buddy buddy with them. Rather than being seen as a stranger, women seem to like currying favor (gaining their validation) with them; rather than it being THEM currying favor with women like straight men do.
@LifeMaxxer
1. gays are hypersexual, have 1000s of sexual partners, zero self control, do copious amounts of drugs that fuck up their immune system -> Aquired Autoimmune Deficiency Disorder

The homosexual defines himself as a hypersexual being -> just like women.

2. women dont view them as a threat as they are basically women.
3. Women secretly want to turn 80% of men into castrated eunuchs. Sometimes they openly admit this.
Of course this is a level of delusion scantily imaginable to a man. Literally everything you are currently using, sitting on, eating and looking at was made by men. Women should be on their knees pleasuring us 24/7.

Yet their insane narcissism makes them believe 80% of men are useless because they don't serve female desires. This level of narcissism is just... there are no words.

This is why women validate gay men with affection and attention. In blackpill circles we have long known that women reward evil behavior in men and women. They give more sex and attention to murderers, bullies, dark-triad men, men that attack other men and men that are effeminate.
Women are hyper destructive to society because of this alone.

That's why women reward homosexuality in men. Listen, women are not deep. They are psychopaths devoid of higher thought. Everything they do can be reduced to pain/pleasure and external factors.
NEVER project male traits onto a woman, you are overcomplicating everything.

Any change in their behavior or mood = something external happened. Always look at her environment. She will claim she had some internal change = bullshit.

Often times women are just bored, which makes them depressed, which makes them start drama. Being bored quickly and needing constant stimulation and action btw, IS a trait of psychopathy.
Try to find a single woman that doesn't have 80% of these traits:

psycho-checklist.jpg


The reason why this is not obvious to most people is because of the gender-double standard. If a man acted like the average women, he would be called a psychopath instantly.

However, normies are retarded and don't understand this very simple piece of logic. I have literally seen this on forums. When you go "if you do a genderswap on any given foids actions, its 99% unacceptable behavior morally" people jump at you with dumb shit like "DUH BECAUSE SHES A WOMAN OMFG ARE YOU GAY?"

They don't get the point. Why is it ok for women, but not for men? How can there be two absolute moral standards, one for for women, one for men? This is simply ridiculous. How has psychology not picked up on this? They have, but they apply the same double standards to gender roles and thus eliminate the possibility of objectively judging womens behavior.

There is only one way to act, one way to be good. Not multiple. There is one standard for being a good person. Except for women, they are not subject to any standards it seems.
 
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think even Karl Marx wrote that you can't start a revolution with men. You kickstart the foids first and the men follow.
Indeed, this is one of the reasons why almost all Maoists and communist guerilla insurgent groups today are dominated by females. The society it self is feminine by nature thus revolution starts with females. This is primarily the reason why I believe incel Marxist Rodgerist revolution will never happen as we don't have Foids to reward the male insurgents with sex.
 
Everything men do is to get sex and female validation and acceptance into the society(a female creation), every single revolution, war, has come about like this.
 
Men are literal slaves to women, simply because the female egg is far rarer than the sperm. This reason alone is why they're the gatekeepers of humanity.
 
giga IQ post. mods pin this shite.
 
Bro, meanwhile they are getting vaxxed and follow the jew agenda and get turned to mincemeat on distant battlefields. Shit that could've been avoided by reading 1-2 books on geopolitics by their own fucking leaders, such as Henry Kissinger or Zbigniew Brzezinski.

That's what social skills amount to. It's dangerous.
You always have to discern and fight the spirit of the time you live in, it's a must.
High iq
:blackpill: :blackpill: :blackpill:

I even doubt that normies have true awareness. They are true NPCs or golem.

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oh 100%, every time men even REMOTELY start forming a coherent in-group, they are attacked and dispersed, rinse and repeat. Everyone who has been online for long enough has seen dozens of communities fall to this. Female infiltrators are part of it usually.
 
simps need to wake the fuck up
 
There is one way to act, though; being brave and not a spineless cuckold.

Though this is unrealistic, as being brave in some bullying situations gets you regarded as insane freak if you succeed and jeopardizes your physical wellbeing if you fail. It is also unrealistic to expect women to be actually brave when everyone says they're super brave for doing cowardly shit such as running away from their country and family or stuff like that. And the environmentpill is brutal: some men such as me, for example, couldn't be brave because we were feminized by plastics in our food and shit like that, making us complete pushovers.
 
There is one way to act, though; being brave and not a spineless cuckold.

Though this is unrealistic, as being brave in some bullying situations gets you regarded as insane freak if you succeed and jeopardizes your physical wellbeing if you fail. It is also unrealistic to expect women to be actually brave when everyone says they're super brave for doing cowardly shit such as running away from their country and family or stuff like that. And the environmentpill is brutal: some men such as me, for example, couldn't be brave because we were feminized by plastics in our food and shit like that, making us complete pushovers.
Morality should be absolute. Non-absolute morality is a joke. Absolute means what it's exists for everyone in a similar situation. If only men ought to be brave, then it's a joke and social manipulation. It's either everyone ought to be brave or no one.
Imagine if the director says to his workers that stealing is strictly prohibited for everyone except himself and his cronies. Would someone take him seriously? Of course, not.
So, if society shames some man for being coward but not shames woman, I don't care. Partial morality is a joke.
 
Morality should be absolute. Non-absolute morality is a joke. Absolute means what it's exists for everyone in a similar situation. If only men ought to be brave, then it's a joke and social manipulation. It's either everyone ought to be brave or no one.
Imagine if the director says to his workers that stealing is strictly prohibited for everyone except himself and his cronies. Would someone take him seriously? Of course, not.
So, if society shames some man for being coward but not shames woman, I don't care. Partial morality is a joke.
I think I intellectually agree with you but it feels emotionally wrong to do so. Must be bluepill vestigial syndrome.

It makes sense to cut some slack for the weak, doesn't it? Foids and downies should not be held to the same standards as actual humans.

I don't know mate, I have a fascistic heart. Some people are born inferior in my worldview.
 
I think I intellectually agree with you but it feels emotionally wrong to do so. Must be bluepill vestigial syndrome.

It makes sense to cut some slack for the weak, doesn't it? Foids and downies should not be held to the same standards as actual humans.

I don't know mate, I have a fascistic heart. Some people are born inferior in my worldview.
There are gradations of being 'inferior'. Women are protected from many life hardships like war, not because they're totally inferior but because of their child bearing ability and male simps ( many 'strong masculine trad' types are also simps ). Think about it: there are plenty of news where girl attacks a guy with knife and kills him. If women were totally inferior, this would never happen.
Myth of female weakness is useful for soyciety since it helps to hold women in privileged and protected position.
Many women have more developed bodies than framecels. They have bigger hands and feet and broader shoulders. Imagine being so subhuman that many females have broader shoulders than you :feelsrope:.
 
I think I intellectually agree with you but it feels emotionally wrong to do so. Must be bluepill vestigial syndrome.

It makes sense to cut some slack for the weak, doesn't it? Foids and downies should not be held to the same standards as actual humans.

I don't know mate, I have a fascistic heart. Some people are born inferior in my worldview.
An absolute moral standard is a logical necessity. There is no other option. Any claim that there is no absolute moral standard necessarily presupposes an absolute moral standard for that claim to be true. @NorthernWind

Now, I think what you are talking about is more related to how we can hold people accountable based on that standard.
And this of course goes into how we can even judge people. Can we?
Can we look at a person and take their entire existence into account and make a perfect moral judgement?

Absolutely not. Never. Maybe in some weird butterfly effect way, them getting pinched in the ass as a child made them kill someone at age 22. We don't know.

Unless you are a neutral, all knowing, all seeing observer of the entire universe, you can not judge anyone appropriately without assuming you have absolute authority. Like I said, there is no morality that is not absolute. The claim itself necessitates it.

So really, there are not many options. Not judge at all is also not an option. Even the claim that there are no morals is an absolute universal and moral truth claim.
So when you say "there is no morality" you have already judged everyone.

Another distinction can be made about women and men, for instance, women could be *ontologically* equal, but otherwise inferior. Meaning, they have the same right to exist, but are otherwise inferior to the male.


View: https://youtu.be/o_2088aX2XM?t=653



View: https://twitter.com/MedWhiteAcolyte/status/1641554420314910720


There are gradations of being 'inferior'. Women are protected from many life hardships like war, not because they're totally inferior but because of their child bearing ability and male simps ( many 'strong masculine trad' types are also simps ). Think about it: there are plenty of news where girl attacks a guy with knife and kills him. If women were totally inferior, this would never happen.
Myth of female weakness is useful for soyciety since it helps to hold women in privileged and protected position.
Many women have more developed bodies than framecels. They have bigger hands and feet and broader shoulders. Imagine being so subhuman that many females have broader shoulders than you :feelsrope:.
Studies have shown that women are just as violent as men.
Some studies demonstrate this by removing anti-male bias, such as only physical (read:male) violence being counted as actual violence.
Some studies on domestic incidents find that women are just as likely to engage in physical alterations.
Some studies found that women are just as likely to commit sexual assault as men.
And so forth.

Women are just as violent and aggressive as men, at the least.

And in addition, as @NorthernWind say, there are twink ass fags like me who have the wrist size of a teenage girl. My own little sister is heavier than me and has big frame. She can naturally do acrobatic feats like hand stands, which I can't do whatsoever.

@NorthernWind @tulasdanslos
So, in this reply we have established:

1. Absolute Morality is an unavoidable Neccessity. It is apriori. You can't even avoid it, it is proven by the impossibility of the contrary.
2. Our ability to judge people against moral standards of any kind is really shit as we can never take all factors into account (including future -> a negative action now could be really positive in future)
3. The only way to judge rightly would be to have ominpotence before you judge
4. The only solutions here: Trust a higher power exists and will judge with absolute perfect justice, or: Conquer the entire Earth and subject everyone to your own arbitrarily invented moral standard by force and create a One World Government.
 
An absolute moral standard is a logical necessity. There is no other option. Any claim that there is no absolute moral standard necessarily presupposes an absolute moral standard for that claim to be true. @NorthernWind

Now, I think what you are talking about is more related to how we can hold people accountable based on that standard.
And this of course goes into how we can even judge people. Can we?
Can we look at a person and take their entire existence into account and make a perfect moral judgement?

Absolutely not. Never. Maybe in some weird butterfly effect way, them getting pinched in the ass as a child made them kill someone at age 22. We don't know.

Unless you are a neutral, all knowing, all seeing observer of the entire universe, you can not judge anyone appropriately without assuming you have absolute authority. Like I said, there is no morality that is not absolute. The claim itself necessitates it.

So really, there are not many options. Not judge at all is also not an option. Even the claim that there are no morals is an absolute universal and moral truth claim.
So when you say "there is no morality" you have already judged everyone.

Another distinction can be made about women and men, for instance, women could be *ontologically* equal, but otherwise inferior. Meaning, they have the same right to exist, but are otherwise inferior to the male.


View: https://youtu.be/o_2088aX2XM?t=653



View: https://twitter.com/MedWhiteAcolyte/status/1641554420314910720



Studies have shown that women are just as violent as men.
Some studies demonstrate this by removing anti-male bias, such as only physical (read:male) violence being counted as actual violence.
Some studies on domestic incidents find that women are just as likely to engage in physical alterations.
Some studies found that women are just as likely to commit sexual assault as men.
And so forth.

Women are just as violent and aggressive as men, at the least.

And in addition, as @NorthernWind say, there are twink ass fags like me who have the wrist size of a teenage girl. My own little sister is heavier than me and has big frame. She can naturally do acrobatic feats like hand stands, which I can't do whatsoever.

@NorthernWind @tulasdanslos
So, in this reply we have established:

1. Absolute Morality is an unavoidable Neccessity. It is apriori. You can't even avoid it, it is proven by the impossibility of the contrary.
2. Our ability to judge people against moral standards of any kind is really shit as we can never take all factors into account (including future -> a negative action now could be really positive in future)
3. The only way to judge rightly would be to have ominpotence before you judge
4. The only solutions here: Trust a higher power exists and will judge with absolute perfect justice, or: Conquer the entire Earth and subject everyone to your own arbitrarily invented moral standard by force and create a One World Government.

Don't call me an RPer but I sincerely believe that the Greeks were right on the money when they created their mythos and thus a higher power does exist, they're called the Olympians, the Pantheon, the Immortals, the gods in short. Why their mythology resembles other, more ancient ones, that I ignore but I definitely think the gods are out there somewhere or in our inner self or what have you.
 
Why isn’t this thread pinned?
 

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