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''The moral from this story seems straightforward: if you treat people horribly, they’ll turn horrible. Arthur is a classic case of the victim turning into a monster. This is how the people understood the movie, which seemed to be the author’s intention. His problem seems to be that the wrong kind of people understood it: right-wing men often called “incels” or “chuds.”
According to the common understanding of this group, they should be repulsed by Joker. They’re supposed to be unsuccessful men, victims of toxic masculinity who worship strength and virility. They might have liked the troll Joker from the Dark Knight, but they surely wouldn’t identify with pathetic and weak Arthur.
Unfortunately for the author, it was exactly what happened. Not only did they understand the message, but also considered it an allegory how the society treats them. The backslash in the media was considerable; for a few weeks the press was full of panicky articles about Joker becoming an incel icon and predicting the movie to inspire lone wolf terrorist attacks.''
