Can social anxiety be cured?

[ionlycopenow]

I'm not talking about made up foid social anxiety, I mean actual one. I have noticed more than ever as soon as I'm out in public I start to sweat alot. If I'm standing still I can feel the sweat going down my back. I also start to feel extremely frightened or at alert, as if something very bad is about to happen, I also feel extremely guilty just for being there (how dare an ugly male go outside). I assume this is from years of being called ugly and isolated.

Can it ever be cured do you think or are you stuck with it forever

 

[Deleted member 11159]

I have the same question. I think the only way is positive reinforcement. Since incels don't receive any, we continue feeling like everyone is judging us. And a lot of the time they do, that's why bullying is a thing.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Yes it's possible, just have to get out there and talk to people. Maybe volunteer, that helps get over it the easiest.

 

[Deleted member 14218]

probably roll a blunt smoke a cig or drink a beer or two so you can get relaxed. That's what i do anyways or i pop a xanax

 

[ionlycopenow]

probably roll a blunt smoke a cig or drink a beer or two so you can get relaxed. That's what i do anyways or i pop a xanax

I can't smoke weed and I'm trying to drink less alcohol. This is not helpful advice to any cels

 

[Tenshi]

Yes, I'm a living proof.

 

[Deleted member 19971]

Chuck a M15 white phosphorous grenade down the throats of the people around you, that way it won't be as scary.

Anyways to be a bit more serious the only way to fix this is to become more attractive.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

It tends to decline with age. I'd imagine you could also just get rid of it through prolonged exposure to social situations that make you uncomfortable. That's how phobias generally work.

 

[Deleted member 27159]

Drinking helps.

 

[Hell]

Alcohol or benzodiazepines if you need a quick temporary fix. Becoming dependent on these is going to fuck you up or get you into trouble though.
There is no true lasting fix though, at least from what I've seen. You can certainly improve on it but it will always be there, I've gone through the whole panic attacks in retail stores thing before. As much as it pains me to say it the only thing that's really going to help is going to the store more and more often.
Don't fall too hard for the exposure therapy meme though because after a point all you're doing is causing yourself pain while not actually helping anything.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

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Anyways to be a bit more serious the only way to fix this is to become more attractive.

Not true. Attractiveness will affect how successful you are at social situations, which can affect whether you fear them or not, but not entirely. It's possible to not have social phobia despite being ugly or awkward.

 

[Michinomiya Hirohit]

Social anxiety can only be cured if you’re a chad no surgery will make you a full chad

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Don't fall too hard for the exposure therapy meme though because after a point all you're doing is causing yourself pain while not actually helping anything.

Exposure therapy is proven to work for phobias.

 

[ihaveno1]

lol hell no

 

[Shin no Shi]

I'm not talking about made up foid social anxiety, I mean actual one. I have noticed more than ever as soon as I'm out in public I start to sweat alot. If I'm standing still I can feel the sweat going down my back. I also start to feel extremely frightened or at alert, as if something very bad is about to happen, I also feel extremely guilty just for being there (how dare an ugly male go outside). I assume this is from years of being called ugly and isolated.

Can it ever be cured do you think or are you stuck with it forever

I think it's possible but like everything in life, it takes hard effort and pain, thus depending on certain incels here, some will get through it whilst truecels, will have a extremely hard time, where they feel it's impossible.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Alcohol or benzodiazepines if you need a quick temporary fix. Becoming dependent on these is going to fuck you up or get you into trouble though.
There is no true lasting fix though, at least from what I've seen. You can certainly improve on it but it will always be there, I've gone through the whole panic attacks in retail stores thing before. As much as it pains me to say it the only thing that's really going to help is going to the store more and more often.
Don't fall too hard for the exposure therapy meme though because after a point all you're doing is causing yourself pain while not actually helping anything.

It sounds like you have a severe case. Mine is mostly moderate. I don't think I've had panic attacks due to social settings, just intense fear

Exposure therapy is proven to work for phobias.

Social anxiety is not social phobia

 

[Hell]

Exposure therapy is proven to work for phobias.

Diminishing returns
After a certain point you realize you're just putting yourself through SHIT over and over for no reward

 

[ionlycopenow]

Yes, I'm a living proof.

What did you do?

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Social anxiety is not social phobia

Yes, it is.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Yes, it is.
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Its a technicality but technically, it is not.

 

[Tenshi]

What did you do?

Exposure therapy, like other users said. It's the kind of thing that only pays off after some time struggling. And I did struggle quite a lot in this journey but I made it. Of course, strictly talking about these kind of disorders it does work but if you have another kind of anxiety disorder it may not be enough.

Diminishing returns
After a certain point you realize you're just putting yourself through SHIT over and over for no reward

Are you sure you have social anxiety? Social anxiety is one out of many other disorders who cause anxiety which are treated differently. I overcame my social anxiety (which I was also diagnosed btw in case you're wondering) but I still had panic disorder and GAD until last year, and I only managed to fix it with SSRIs.

 

[crestfallencel]

become more attractive

 

[ionlycopenow]

and I only managed to fix it with SSRIs.

does your dick still work?

I have GAD and social anxiety and possibly OCD, looking to fix the social anxiety first the rest are a bit more manageable. Did you fix social without SSRIs? Are you off them now?

 

[Tenshi]

does your dick still work?

I have GAD and social anxiety and possibly OCD, looking to fix the social anxiety first the rest are a bit more manageable. Did you fix social without SSRIs? Are you off them now?

It does, but my libido is pretty much gone. I rarely fap or feel desire to have sex which is not that bad since I'm incel but I definitely don't want to be like this forever. I fixed social anxiety way earlier like in my late teens but GAD and the other disorders kicked in hard in my first college year. Also had major depression which fucked me hard so I had to resort to drugs.

The best thing that happen to be probably at the moment was when I found a part time job so I was kinda forced to socialize a lot and as you get used to it you brain starts to be more relaxed during these situations. At some moments it will feel like hell but you gotta calm down and rationalize it.

I'm still on SSRI right now, thinking about quitting in the next year to see if I improved, my doctor advised me to stay on them for at least two years. They also do a good job treating OCD, used to have some episodes of it as well and they are gone now (jfl I'm not joking, I'm a fucking pit of mental illnesses, I even had a disorder called "olfactory reference syndrome" which almost drove me crazy)

 

[ionlycopenow]

It does, but my libido is pretty much gone. I rarely fap or feel desire to have sex which is not that bad since I'm incel but I definitely don't want to be like this forever. I fixed social anxiety way earlier like in my late teens but GAD and the other disorders kicked in hard in my first college year. Also had major depression which fucked me hard so I had to resort to drugs.

The best thing that happen to be probably at the moment was when I found a part time job so I was kinda forced to socialize a lot and as you get used to it you brain starts to be more relaxed during these situations. At some moments it will feel like hell but you gotta calm down and rationalize it.

I'm still on SSRI right now, thinking about quitting in the next year to see if I improved, my doctor advised me to stay on them for at least two years. They also do a good job treating OCD, used to have some episodes of it as well and they are gone now (jfl I'm not joking, I'm a fucking pit of mental illnesses, I even had a disorder called "olfactory reference syndrome" which almost drove me crazy)

...you're not bothered by lower libido?

I hope it goes back to normal for you when you're off them

I have had many part time jobs. None of them helped with social anxiety. In fact they only made it worse as I was insulted all the time, isolated and always made to do the worst jobs because they picked up I was not NT so that means I can be abused

Ive had OCD intrusive thoughts since I was a kid, really wrecked my nerves then since I didn't know what it was but now I manage OCD much better because I know what it is and dismiss it. However I still have bad anxiety and depression that I cannot shake unlike OCD

 

[Tenshi]

...you're not bothered by lower libido?

I hope it goes back to normal for you when you're off them

I have had many part time jobs. None of them helped with social anxiety. In fact they only made it worse as I was insulted all the time, isolated and always made to do the worst jobs because they picked up I was not NT so that means I can be abused

not really I mean it only make things worse when you want to fuck but you can't. In times where I was too horny I would simp hard but now I have way more control over myself, especially since I took the blackpill.

I hope so, I want to escortcel so I'd like to experience the whole thing without anything depriving me of the pleasure. As long as I don't get anxious again, I heard some people fixed their anxiety and depression for good after quitting. But yeah man definitely look for help, both with professionals and other people struggling like you, or who overcame these issues.

 

[ionlycopenow]

not really I mean it only make things worse when you want to fuck but you can't. In times where I was too horny I would simp hard but now I have way more control over myself, especially since I took the blackpill.

I hope so, I want to escortcel so I'd like to experience the whole thing without anything depriving me of the pleasure. As long as I don't get anxious again, I heard some people fixed their anxiety and depression for good after quitting. But yeah man definitely look for help, both with professionals and other people struggling like you, or who overcame these issues.

I hope it does for you. For some people their dick stops working forever even after they stop but from what I hear it's rare. I don't mean to scare you though. At least you still feel your dick so that's a good sign.

I really do not want to take SSRIs, but I'm becoming hopeless. I'm still going to look for other solutions, but I am more anxious than every nowadays and it's even led to derealization episodes on some days

I really don't think I'd be so anxious if I wasn't raised to basically feel like a failure for not attracting women or being rich and outgoing. This is pretty cruel

 

[HappilySingle]

Plastic surgery is the only cure.

 

[solblue]

Anxiety disorders are the most common mental illness in the U.S., affecting 40 million adults in the United States age 18 and older, or 18.1% of the population every year.

From the ADAA

 

[ionlycopenow]

From the ADAA

You also have to keep in mind most "anxiety" cases are either meme version of Becky saying she has le social anxiety while throwing a party every week or just over diagnosing a normal state of distraught.

 

[Tenshi]

I have had many part time jobs. None of them helped with social anxiety. In fact they only made it worse as I was insulted all the time, isolated and always made to do the worst jobs because they picked up I was not NT so that means I can be abused

Ive had OCD intrusive thoughts since I was a kid, really wrecked my nerves then since I didn't know what it was but now I manage OCD much better because I know what it is and dismiss it. However I still have bad anxiety and depression that I cannot shake unlike OCD

That sucks man, are you american? It looks like people there are fucking upset all the time jfl people didn't treat me badly exactly but they certainly try to take advantages or make fun of you, so I don't really know, it can have some negative effects on the short term. I'm still a pretty introvert person but I don't freak out with things like going to the barber or even talking to strangers. The drugs made me way more relaxed overall tbh.

I feel you on the OCD thoughts, it's terrible. It can lead someone to the verge of suicide, like you can't even have peace within your own mind.

I hope it does for you. For some people their dick stops working forever even after they stop but from what I hear it's rare. I don't mean to scare you though. At least you still feel your dick so that's a good sign.

I really do not want to take SSRIs, but I'm becoming hopeless. I'm still going to look for other solutions, but I am more anxious than every nowadays and it's even led to derealization episodes on some days

I really don't think I'd be so anxious if I wasn't raised to basically feel like a failure for not attracting women or being rich and outgoing. This is pretty cruel

thanks man. I mean, I was really reluctant at the beginning, no one wants to use these things of things but I was also hopeless and judging by how things were turning back then I'd probably rope, not joking. Life isn't fair and I learned that the worst way, so I did what needed to do to keep myself alive.

Make sure you do what you can but if you need to, give it a try. Yeah I know the jews, it sucks but that's how things are, we're victims of a fucked up world. There other types of drugs out there aside from SSRIs, even safer so you may give it a try. Even some nootropic things like Piracetam or Phenibut (although you can't really rely on it on a daily basis like you do with antidepressants). Good luck man, hmu if you ever feel like talking or something.

 

[zekr]

Temporarily with any drug that lowers inhibition yes. Long term idk since ive suffered from it my entire life.

 

[ionlycopenow]

That sucks man, are you american? It looks like people there are fucking upset all the time jfl people didn't treat me badly exactly but they certainly try to take advantages or make fun of you, so I don't really know, it can have some negative effects on the short term. I'm still a pretty introvert person but I don't freak out with things like going to the barber or even talking to strangers. The drugs made me way more relaxed overall tbh.

I feel you on the OCD thoughts, it's terrible. It can lead someone to the verge of suicide, like you can't even have peace within your own mind.



thanks man. I mean, I was really reluctant at the beginning, no one wants to use these things of things but I was also hopeless and judging by how things were turning back then I'd probably rope, not joking. Life isn't fair and I learned that the worst way, so I did what needed to do to keep myself alive.

Make sure you do what you can but if you need to, give it a try. Yeah I know the jews, it sucks but that's how things are, we're victims of a fucked up world. There other types of drugs out there aside from SSRIs, even safer so you may give it a try. Even some nootropic things like Piracetam or Phenibut (although you can't really rely on it on a daily basis like you do with antidepressants). Good luck man, hmu if you ever feel like talking or something.

Phenibut is basically soviet Xanax no? It's a benzo. I want to avoid those as much as possible. They seem to only make anxiety worse in the long run. There's many days I want to rope some really bad but I don't think its like I'd rope if I never took meds. It's just I have to live with moderate depression and moderate - severe anxiety every day. I am hopeful I can "rewire" my brain to be less anxious in a few months after active lifestyle changes.

 

[Tenshi]

Phenibut is basically soviet Xanax no? It's a benzo. I want to avoid those as much as possible. They seem to only make anxiety worse in the long run. There's many days I want to rope some really bad but I don't think its like I'd rope if I never took meds. It's just I have to live with moderate depression and moderate - severe anxiety every day. I am hopeful I can "rewire" my brain to be less anxious in a few months after active lifestyle changes.

I think it's a GABA receptor or something, not really sure but it's over the counter here so I imagine it's not so harmful (although, I've heard these GABA receptors are usually some dangerous shit but since phenibut induces tolerance very quickly that's probably the reason why it doesn't need a prescription)

I really hope you can do that. I'm been researching a lot on this subject recently, there actually quite a lot things that can be linked to depression and anxiety (even gluten) so perhaps it's not impossible to treat it without resorting to drugs

 

[Deleted member 21230]

Surgery --> Good looks (hopefully) --> Positive social reinforcement --> No more social anxiety

 

[Over_this_Life]

Just go talk to people bro worked for me

 

[your personality]

I'm not talking about made up foid social anxiety, I mean actual one. I have noticed more than ever as soon as I'm out in public I start to sweat alot. If I'm standing still I can feel the sweat going down my back. I also start to feel extremely frightened or at alert, as if something very bad is about to happen, I also feel extremely guilty just for being there (how dare an ugly male go outside). I assume this is from years of being called ugly and isolated.

Can it ever be cured do you think or are you stuck with it forever

The only cure I know is being able to not be routinely scrutinized or have the scope of your actions pointed out and not being dismissed when you try to have conversation with someone.
The problem of course is that is entirely out of your control and completely up to the person you are talking to to decide how they'll react to you.
But if it was possible lack of negative reinforcement and consistently positive feedback to you when you try to socialize might do it.

 

[TheNEET]

become high T and psychopathic af

 

[WizardofSoda]

Maybe someone with mild anxiety could do lifestyle changes.. but imo severe anxiety can only be treated by pharmaceuticals.

 

[Blacktarpill]

Just snort pills theory.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Maybe someone with mild anxiety could do lifestyle changes.. but imo severe anxiety can only be treated by pharmaceuticals.

How severe is severe? I think I have a moderate case tbh

 

[ionlycopenow]

Take artan.

Why

 

[nihility]

not as bad but same,it wasn't always like this so it's treatable i suppose

 

[ionlycopenow]

It makes you low inhib as fuck.

Side effect are:
- Highly addivtive.
- Cane make you commit crimes.

Sounds like a bad idea ngl

 

[WizardofSoda]

How severe is severe? I think I have a moderate case tbh

The doctors have rating scales that they use that are probably different from place to place. Honestly, you are probably the best judge, if you think it is moderate anxiety it probably is that.

An idea I had for you is you could start out with the full dose of an SSRI to see if it actually works for you. Then if it does work but you experience side effects, you could lower the dose down to 1/10th the normal dose.

People underestimate a few things with pharmaceuticals. The first is that for most ailments there is multiple drugs and multiple classes of drugs approved. Even within one class of drugs like SSRI's the drugs are very different. So people can try out the different options to find the one that works best for them. So if a person is getting bad side effects on one, they can just switch to try one of the other ones.

Secondly the dosages of the drugs can be adjusted. With compounding pharmacies any dosage between 0 and the max approved dose can be prescribed.

 

[LooksAreLife]

Ugly people are always going to be socially awkward due to negative social experiences.

The only way to fix it is to become good looking.

 

[ionlycopenow]

The doctors have rating scales that they use that are probably different from place to place. Honestly, you are probably the best judge, if you think it is moderate anxiety it probably is that.

An idea I had for you is you could start out with the full dose of an SSRI to see if it actually works for you. Then if it does work but you experience side effects, you could lower the dose down to 1/10th the normal dose.

People underestimate a few things with pharmaceuticals. The first is that for most ailments there is multiple drugs and multiple classes of drugs approved. Even within one class of drugs like SSRI's the drugs are very different. So people can try out the different options to find the one that works best for them. So if a person is getting bad side effects on one, they can just switch to try one of the other ones.

Secondly the dosages of the drugs can be adjusted. With compounding pharmacies any dosage between 0 and the max approved dose can be prescribed.

You know they can have permanent side effects right jumping right into them isn't the best way to do it