Hypocrisy Bodybuilding is a 100% pure scam

[Doug]

I hate These fucking "moralkeepers" of Bodybuilding who are Always Screaming 100% natural

As a skinny gymcel you get only bullshit advices like "Train hard eat clean etc."

True Aesthetic Bodybuilders like Jeff Seid or Zyzz Arent Eating clean, they are partying while drinking booze

Youre Always the looser as a natty gymcel

Youre Always the one whos getting teared Ligaments through Lifting heavy weights while thinking that someday you will be as big as Zyzz or Seid,

-but in reality, no one of them are true heavy lifters, they all lift in the easy 8-12 rep range with weights who are not heavy to them, but their muscle pump is 10 times better than yours, even if youre squatting or deadlifting 250lbs


They will always let you think that their physique comes from discipline and dedication

While in reality their discipline isnt higher than the one of your average gym rat, they are all running HGH and anavar which means that they are almost unable to gain fat

(Zyzz never did cardio)

They will Always tell you to eat a high Protein diet to gain muscle and loose bodyfat:

This actually works but ONLY FOR THEM, they can eat a shit ton of Protein without gaining fat because their Protein Synthesis is extremly high through roiding

But your Protein Synthesis as a low T Gymcel is equally to the one of a 12 year old skinny Girl, which means that you will shit most of your Protein intake out rather than gaining muscle.

Genetics/Roids<Nutrition<Training

Everything else is cope

 

[Zesto]

Waifus love lean.

Western pigs like work horse/farm animal muscles.

 

[Incelhope]

water is wet

 

[Doug]

Waifus love lean.

Western pigs like work horse/farm animal muscles.

Yeah Keep on lying to yourself

 

[Incelhope]

Waifus love lean.

Western pigs like work horse/farm animal muscles.

waifus dont love lean, they love shredded but japanese are small and lean natural and dont bother training as they dont have the genetics for it either

 

[Riceman]

cope. roid heads always get girls.

even if 90% of women hate them. they will get that 5% of women who love them.

 

[micropenis29]

High IQ

 

[Incelhope]

cope. roid heads always get girls.

even if 90% of women hate them. they will get that 5% of women who love them.

bro do you even read the text or just the title????

 

[Deleted member 12256]

Male models or athletes can't be naturals....What they say does works but not if you have shitty genetics and frame.

 

[jet112]

only 10-20% of men can become natty by just lifting weights.
if you need powders or shakes for anything, you are harming your body at this point.

honestly, if you look at warrior races like the aztecs or the greeks, they were mostly lean. the muscle build is a jewish lie

 

[ShadowMonk]

There is no one stopping you from taking HGH, insulin or anabolic like those guys do. It is no secret how they go about it. Doping has been used in bodybuilding since the 40 or even earlier when it was literally extracted from bull sacks.

People have different genes. Are you gonna cry and give up because you gain 25% slower than the peak genes? Or are you gonna push yourself and accomplish something something for yourself.

It's your body, you are in 100% control of what exercises it does and what nutrition it consumes and if it is on steroids or not.

 

[mylifeistrash]

even playing full court basketball which takes high levels of endurance only burns like 400 cal an hour.

cardio doesn't burn many calories. it's all DIET AND GENETICS, BUT MOSTLY DRUGS

 

[VeganIcon]

At this point, why would you care what women desire in male bodies? Human men were never meant to be hulking masses of muscle with 2% body fat, so bodybuilding naturally or otherwise is a moot point. Eat a plant based diet, play your favorite sport for an hour a day and stretch often.

 

[1984cel]

Muscles are cope beyond a decent weight, and low body fat is cope below 12%.

It’s all about the bones

 

[GeneticFilth]

I agree with everything except for the low body fat thing. Zyzz is naturally skinny. Kendall Jenner got her thin genetics from her dad. Patrick Schwarzenegger got his thin genetics from his mom. Ice Poseidon also got his thin genetics from his mom. The only skinny people that gain weight are skinny fat guys where they always have some chub around their belly and waist.

 

[starystulejarz]

Waifus love lean.

Western pigs like work horse/farm animal muscles.

Cope, waifus love Chads and only Chads you have no chance gaijin. As soon as you leave Tokyo airport you gonna get mogged hard by local Changs. Like them below.

 

[Zesto]

Cope, waifus love Chads and only Chads you have no chance gaijin. As soon as you leave Tokyo airport you gonna get mogged hard by local Changs. Like them below.

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I don't need a J-Pop Idol just a girl with a pure heart.

 

[TheOnlyWei]

Cope. Physical exercise is essential to mental and physical health. Yes you will never get a 10/10 body without PEDs but come on there are so many benefits.

Male models or athletes can't be naturals....What they say does works but not if you have shitty genetics and frame.

only 10-20% of men can become natty by just lifting weights.
if you need powders or shakes for anything, you are harming your body at this point.

honestly, if you look at warrior races like the aztecs or the greeks, they were mostly lean. /QUOTE]

 

[starystulejarz]

I don't need a J-Pop Idol just a girl with a pure heart.

then good luck with it

 

[Zesto]

then good luck with it

She is waiting for me right now in Tokyo.

She thinks I am going to free her when in reality she's going to free me.

 

[AsiaCel]

waifus dont love lean, they love shredded but japanese are small and lean natural and dont bother training as they dont have the genetics for it either

Because East Asians have to work from 7am to 8pm they simply don't have time to go to the gym let alone do basic workouts.

 

[Opus132]

Doping has been used in bodybuilding since the 40 or even earlier when it was literally extracted from bull sacks.

Doping was a thing even in ancient Greece. They actually had some rules against it even back then. Explains all those ripped statues, possibly even the Hercules one which was always considered to have been an exaggeration:

 

[ShadowMonk]

Doping was a thing even in ancient Greece

By Zeus you're right. I got to eat me some sheep testicles!
Btw the lighting in your pic does this statue no justice. It is ripped.

 

[Frankenstein's M.]

I hate These fucking "moralkeepers" of Bodybuilding who are Always Screaming 100% natural

As a skinny gymcel you get only bullshit advices like "Train hard eat clean etc."

True Aesthetic Bodybuilders like Jeff Seid or Zyzz Arent Eating clean, they are partying while drinking booze

Youre Always the looser as a natty gymcel

Youre Always the one whos getting teared Ligaments through Lifting heavy weights while thinking that someday you will be as big as Zyzz or Seid,

-but in reality, no one of them are true heavy lifters, they all lift in the easy 8-12 rep range with weights who are not heavy to them, but their muscle pump is 10 times better than yours, even if youre squatting or deadlifting 250lbs


They will always let you think that their physique comes from discipline and dedication

While in reality their discipline isnt higher than the one of your average gym rat, they are all running HGH and anavar which means that they are almost unable to gain fat

(Zyzz never did cardio)

They will Always tell you to eat a high Protein diet to gain muscle and loose bodyfat:

This actually works but ONLY FOR THEM, they can eat a shit ton of Protein without gaining fat because their Protein Synthesis is extremly high through roiding

But your Protein Synthesis as a low T Gymcel is equally to the one of a 12 year old skinny Girl, which means that you will shit most of your Protein intake out rather than gaining muscle.

Genetics/Roids<Nutrition<Training

Everything else is cope

Just roidmax bro

 

[iKillCucks]

There is no one stopping you from taking HGH, insulin or anabolic like those guys do. It is no secret how they go about it. Doping has been used in bodybuilding since the 40 or even earlier when it was literally extracted from bull sacks.

People have different genes. Are you gonna cry and give up because you gain 25% slower than the peak genes? Or are you gonna push yourself and accomplish something something for yourself.

It's your body, you are in 100% control of what exercises it does and what nutrition it consumes and if it is on steroids or not.

Tell that to low T cell men who can't get prescribed testosterone because the Goldstein jew doctor doesn't want a bunch of a muscular strong men walking around because of "mUh ToXiC mAsCuLinItY" while that same man can't find sources for good UGL anabolic. Tell that to men with a thyroid condition who get prescribed like cytomel or t4 because their levels don't fit the levels needed for medication but still experience weight problems. Genetics and drugs = key

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I hate These fucking "moralkeepers" of Bodybuilding who are Always Screaming 100% natural

As a skinny gymcel you get only bullshit advices like "Train hard eat clean etc."

True Aesthetic Bodybuilders like Jeff Seid or Zyzz Arent Eating clean, they are partying while drinking booze

Youre Always the looser as a natty gymcel

Youre Always the one whos getting teared Ligaments through Lifting heavy weights while thinking that someday you will be as big as Zyzz or Seid,

-but in reality, no one of them are true heavy lifters, they all lift in the easy 8-12 rep range with weights who are not heavy to them, but their muscle pump is 10 times better than yours, even if youre squatting or deadlifting 250lbs


They will always let you think that their physique comes from discipline and dedication

While in reality their discipline isnt higher than the one of your average gym rat, they are all running HGH and anavar which means that they are almost unable to gain fat

(Zyzz never did cardio)

They will Always tell you to eat a high Protein diet to gain muscle and loose bodyfat:

This actually works but ONLY FOR THEM, they can eat a shit ton of Protein without gaining fat because their Protein Synthesis is extremly high through roiding

But your Protein Synthesis as a low T Gymcel is equally to the one of a 12 year old skinny Girl, which means that you will shit most of your Protein intake out rather than gaining muscle.

Genetics/Roids>Nutrition>Training

Everything else is cope

Agreed.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

All the guys who are famous for their physiques are using roids.

Jeff Seid
Zyzz
Connor Murphy
Hodge Twins
Kinobody
Brett Maverick
Mike Chang
Squattin Cassanova

Steroids are part of the minimum requirement if you want girls to find you attractive for your body.

Also many of these "famous" bodybuilders are frauding with angles and lighting and aren't even that big IRL.

eg.


Connor Murphy did a vid about how his old wide angled camera made him look bigger so now he looks smaller, etc.

 

[platypus]

I hate These fucking "moralkeepers" of Bodybuilding who are Always Screaming 100% natural

As a skinny gymcel you get only bullshit advices like "Train hard eat clean etc."

True Aesthetic Bodybuilders like Jeff Seid or Zyzz Arent Eating clean, they are partying while drinking booze

Youre Always the looser as a natty gymcel

Youre Always the one whos getting teared Ligaments through Lifting heavy weights while thinking that someday you will be as big as Zyzz or Seid,

-but in reality, no one of them are true heavy lifters, they all lift in the easy 8-12 rep range with weights who are not heavy to them, but their muscle pump is 10 times better than yours, even if youre squatting or deadlifting 250lbs


They will always let you think that their physique comes from discipline and dedication

While in reality their discipline isnt higher than the one of your average gym rat, they are all running HGH and anavar which means that they are almost unable to gain fat

(Zyzz never did cardio)

They will Always tell you to eat a high Protein diet to gain muscle and loose bodyfat:

This actually works but ONLY FOR THEM, they can eat a shit ton of Protein without gaining fat because their Protein Synthesis is extremly high through roiding

But your Protein Synthesis as a low T Gymcel is equally to the one of a 12 year old skinny Girl, which means that you will shit most of your Protein intake out rather than gaining muscle.

Genetics/Roids<Nutrition<Training

Everything else is cope

Yep. I literally destroyed my body as a teenager thinking that if I just worked really hard I could look like the guys in fitness magazines. This was pre-youtube era so I had no idea about steroids. I've basically had the mobility of a 65-70 year old since age 25. Now that my natural tesosterone levels are going down I'm dreading seeing where I'll be in another 10 years!

 

[FaceandHFD]

Waifus love lean.

Western pigs like work horse/farm animal muscles.

Lifefuel for high metabolism cels

Not really, roided gymceling is quite popular in japan/korea.

 

[BlaKdaGGeRz]

Doping was a thing even in ancient Greece. They actually had some rules against it even back then. Explains all those ripped statues, possibly even the Hercules one which was always considered to have been an exaggeration:

kek how did anyone dope back then if there were no steroids

 

[Masterkief9]

You can definitely build muscle and be lean while natty. Need proof? I can post a picture of my physique but I’m not sure if that’s against the rules. I can PM you if you want

 

[uninstall]

I agree 100%.

 

[Potbellypos]

I canceled my subscription to protein powder today because I've been stuck on 20 pound dumbbells and 100 pound bench press for 2 months.

 

[platypus]

You can definitely build muscle and be lean while natty. Need proof? I can post a picture of my physique but I’m not sure if that’s against the rules. I can PM you if you want

I know someone who grows muscle as a natty without doing any training. What is your point?

Genetics is the key factor for a natty. As I say, there are natties who are hyper mesomorphs who will simply grow muscle without even training.

But if you get a roided, genetically gifted guy saying that anyone can get ripped by just working hard and dieting it's clearly a scam.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Not really, roided gymceling is quite popular in japan/korea.

Holy fuck I can't believe that's actually a real person and not a bizarre photoshop

Fucking hilarious.

 

[Masterkief9]

I know someone who grows muscle as a natty without doing any training. What is your point?

Genetics is the key factor for a natty. As I say, there are natties who are hyper mesomorphs who will simply grow muscle without even training.

But if you get a roided, genetically gifted guy saying that anyone can get ripped by just working hard and dieting it's clearly a scam.

I never said anyone can get ripped. Yeah genetics play a big part but for the average person, you can put on a good amount of muscle and get lean.

And nobody is going to put on muscle without doing any training, that’s asinine to think that. Maybe if he’s working a physical job and eating in a caloric surplus, then yeah I can believe it. But if he’s just playing video games all day and barely eating, not possible. People use genes far too much as a crutch and an excuse before even trying

 

[itsmemario]

Yeah Keep on lying to yourself

You can definitely build muscle and be lean while natty. Need proof? I can post a picture of my physique but I’m not sure if that’s against the rules. I can PM you if you want

Yess you can, i did it too, the problem is that bodybuilders with naturally unobtainable bodys keep claiming that they are not on gear.

 

[platypus]

I never said anyone can get ripped. Yeah genetics play a big part but for the average person, you can put on a good amount of muscle and get lean.

And nobody is going to put on muscle without doing any training, that’s asinine to think that. Maybe if he’s working a physical job and eating in a caloric surplus, then yeah I can believe it. But if he’s just playing video games all day and barely eating, not possible. People use genes far too much as a crutch and an excuse before even trying

I know for a fact that there are people who gain muscle without training and he does not do manual labour. I know one personally. If he eats a caloric surplus he gains muscle.

Just think about animals to see how this can be true. A male sheep literally sits around and eats. He doesn't do any training yet at his prime he will have gained a lot of muscle all over his body, especially his neck and shoulders. Same for a bull, bear, lion etc. Captive zoo animals will be muscular just laying around eating.

There are humans like this too. If they actually trained they would be incredibly big but why would they train if they can get fairly big just by eating?

 

[Masterkief9]

Yess you can, i did it too, the problem is that bodybuilders with naturally unobtainable bodys keep claiming that they are not on gear.

I’ll agree with that. And I will say this: bodybuilding while natural takes ALOT of time, dedication, and hard work to have an impressive physique. I started young and naive, believing Arnold and others were natty, and that if I trained long and hard enough, I too could look like him.

That mindset carried my training through and past high school and as I learned about the prevelance of roids, I already had a fairly impressive physique and strength for my age.

If I had to start from scratch at my current age without any knowledge, I don’t think I’d be able to do it naturally simply because I would be far too disscouraged from all the things I didn’t know and all the people who looked better than me.

It’s not easy. It’s possible, but most people will never do it.

 

[itsmemario]

That mindset carried my training through and past high school and as I learned about the prevelance of roids, I already had a fairly impressive physique and strength for my age.

What are your stats? (height, weight , waist, chest, arm(flexed), bf )

 

[Masterkief9]

I know for a fact that there are people who gain muscle without training and he does not do manual labour. I know one personally. If he eats a caloric surplus he gains muscle.

Just think about animals to see how this can be true. A male sheep literally sits around and eats. He doesn't do any training yet at his prime he will have gained a lot of muscle all over his body, especially his neck and shoulders. Same for a bull, bear, lion etc. Captive zoo animals will be muscular just laying around eating.

There are humans like this too. If they actually trained they would be incredibly big but why would they train if they can get fairly big just by eating?

Alright man I don’t want to call you stupid, I just don’t think you have any clue what you’re talking about and that’s fine. I just hope you’re willing to change your mind.

The reason gorillas, lions, rhinos, cows, etc are able to build muscle while doing very little is because their GUT microbiome and structure are completely different than ours. Gorillas, for example, have a much longer large intestine than us and their microbiome is designed to break down cellulose (plants) far more efficiently than us.

This is completely different than humans. No human Can build muscle just by eating more unless they have SOME type of physical work. It’s not possible(w/o steroids). Don’t bring up one anecdotal you have talked to, that’s not science. Bring up a study. Which you can’t because there aren’t any becaus it’s not possible.

What are your stats? (height, weight , waist, chest, arm(flexed), bf )

5’6 160lbs, 30 inch waist, Ive never measure my chest. Arms are 18 inches flexed. 10% body fat. Lowest I’ve been before was 8.4% but I definitely look far better right now.

 

[platypus]

Alright man I don’t want to call you stupid, I just don’t think you have any clue what you’re talking about and that’s fine. I just hope you’re willing to change your mind.

The reason gorillas, lions, rhinos, cows, etc are able to build muscle while doing very little is because their GUT microbiome and structure are completely different than ours. Gorillas, for example, have a much longer large intestine than us and their microbiome is designed to break down cellulose (plants) far more efficiently than us.

This is completely different than humans. No human Can build muscle just by eating more unless they have SOME type of physical work. It’s not possible(w/o steroids). Don’t bring up one anecdotal you have talked to, that’s not science. Bring up a study. Which you can’t because there aren’t any becaus it’s not possible.

If it's not possible then how do boys gain so much muscle just by going through puberty? Once their testosterone hits hard it wires the body to grow muscle. Just think about in highschool. There were some kids who grew a lot more muscle than the rest. You can't say that's just because they did a bit of recreational running or swimming.

You are happy to admit that there's significant differences in food metabolism between species but are unable to entertain the idea that there are significant difference interspecies.

And don't strawman me (I don't think you are) to say that I'm saying that there's no correlation between training and muscle development. I'm just saying that a % of men can gain muscle without training. Obviously, there is an age limit for that though.

 

[Masterkief9]

If it's not possible then how do boys gain so much muscle just by going through puberty? Once their testosterone hits hard it wires the body to grow muscle. Just think about in highschool. There were some kids who grew a lot more muscle than the rest. You can't say that's just because they did a bit of recreational running or swimming.

You are happy to admit that there's significant differences in food metabolism between species but are unable to entertain the idea that there are significant difference interspecies.

And don't strawman me (I don't think you are) to say that I'm saying that there's no correlation between training and muscle development. I'm just saying that a % of men can gain muscle without training. Obviously, there is an age limit for that though.

You’re right, more testosterone means more muscle development IF they’re doing some physical activity. If you have insanely high test levels like that of a boy in puberty, then you will gain muscle simply by doing what teenage boys do (sports, run around, skate, etc). Even with that high test though, if all the kid does is play video games all day, they won’t gain muscle.


I didn’t say there isn’t a difference but that difference isn’t the same as the difference inter species. That’s what I’m saying. You can’t compare the difference of gorillas -> humans as the same comparison as you ->Arnold. It’s not the same significant difference.


If you have someone with high testosterone and a lot of lean muscle mass, their body is going to have more hormones to stimulate muscle growth and less hormones to stimulate fat deposition. BUT, if they don’t do ANY physical activity, then they WILL lose muscle mass. There’s no way around it (other than roids).

 

[platypus]

Oh and it looks like there is at least one study showing this can happen.

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-build-muscle-without-working-out

If some men are naturally high T (and the one I know is very high T; looks like a neanderthal), then they are going to have a higher latent muscle mass than other men.

I'm not saiyng that he would just keep gaining muscle forever by eating. But so far, his natural state is more ripped than a lot of guys who do workout. He's lucky as fuck.

 

[Deleted member 1252]

The thing that put me off it was that it’s all genetics anyway. Why the fuck should I work out 5 days a week and live on dry chicken and broccoli just to look decent while chad eats pizza and drinks beer and parties all night and never sets foot in a gym and looks better than I’ll ever look?? It’s like being fucking handicapped. Fuck this shitty world.

 

[Figthcel]

Agreed

And I have met several guys who were doing very little excercise of any sort yet had above average muscle. Could easily climb a rope with using just their hands while they had bellies and so on. That is genetics.

 

[MaxZM98]

i dont think seid uses gear. these people just have superior genetics to us. this is even sadder as it means even if we roided, we could not achieve what they have achieved. also for the ectomorphgymcels like me, even if we get super muscular, we are framecels so dont look aesthetic.

 

[ShadowMonk]

can't get prescribed testosterone

I don't think bodybuilders get their steroids by prescription medication.

I don't know what tyroids is so you're probably right about that. But life could suck in lots of ways like that, you could be paraplegic.

But that your life sucks by comparison to someone else doesn't mean that you should make it suck worse than it could because you ldarotted instead of coping and gave it your best shot and decided to eat right and exercise.
Fatcel=volcel but never again.

 

[guyfromwizchan]

You don't know what you're talking about. Growth hormone does not cause hypertrophy and anavar is also used for bulking. It's trenbolone primarily that they use for muscle growth and to prevent fat gain/lose fat.

i dont think seid uses gear.

Jesus Christ the gullibility. Of course this effeminate guy uses steroids. Don't be stupid.

The reason gorillas, lions, rhinos, cows, etc are able to build muscle while doing very little is because their GUT microbiome and structure are completely different than ours.

For God's sakes no. The reason is because they have genes that we do not have. It has nothing to do with hormones or diet or bacteria.
Human males have much more testosterone naturally that lions do, for example.

Tell that to low T cell men who can't get prescribed testosterone because the Goldstein jew doctor doesn't want a bunch of a muscular strong men walking around because of "mUh ToXiC mAsCuLinItY" while that same man can't find sources for good UGL anabolic. Tell that to men with a thyroid condition who get prescribed like cytomel or t4 because their levels don't fit the levels needed for medication but still experience weight problems. Genetics and drugs = key

I can tell you how to anonymously order steroids online to pretty much any country but only in a private message so pm me.

 

[uninstall]

only 10-20% of men can become natty by just lifting weights.
if you need powders or shakes for anything, you are harming your body at this point.

honestly, if you look at warrior races like the aztecs or the greeks, they were mostly lean. the muscle build is a jewish lie