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Discussion Anyone thinks CEFR is just a snowflake?

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I recently knew about CEFR and got 100/120 on my TOEFL iBT at one shot which was evaluated at the C1 level as per CEFR.
I checked the descriptions of the levels and they say at the C1 level except cognitively requiring occasions such as finishing academic tasks, My English is pretty okay, but doesn't it mean a lot of native speakers can't even reach the C2 level? We all know in most of cases only those with at least master degree can reach the C2 level because they know how to deal with academic shits. For the majority of native speakers C2 level is literally a snowball's chance in Hell.
I know the reference was coined for human resources or smth like that as a benchmark, but when a non-native speaker can reach the level at which the majority of native speakers is positioned and it can't even reach the highest level as a native-speaker, I just think it can't be used as a reference of 'linguistic ability'.
 
By that metric, yeah, reaching C2 in a language means that you probably know and use more words than some part of the native population
 
By that metric, yeah, reaching C2 in a language means that you probably know and use more words than some part of the native population
I am wondering if only a small part of even the American graduates are at the C2 level since we all know most of the unis of America are shitty lol.
 
I am wondering if only a small part of even the American graduates are at the C2 level since we all know most of the unis of America are shitty lol.
You have people with C2 level obviously but it's surely not a huge part of the population
 

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