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American sports are uniquely cruel in their values

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Posted this elsewhere but @Lv99_BixNood asked for its own thread.

Watching other men play sports as a hobby is pitiful. Even worse is watching sports you can't ever be good at. Most male sports fans are in heavy denial about this: you have to weigh 250 lbs to play football, and you have to be 6'6 to play basketball. In pro leagues, the size advantage is insurmountable.

There are two axes on which a sport can speak to its society:

Axis 1: ideal physique. At the high level of a nationally popular sport, maximum effort is put forward by all competitors, bringing us back to genetics. From this perspective, different sports are simply filters for different genetics: calisthenics for small men, powerlifting for large men. Which body type is the best? The sport of a society encapsulates the ideal physique of that society.

Axis 2: Gini coefficient. Some "civilized" sports admit a wide range of body types; others heavily favor a specific trait. Anyone can play golf; only the tall can play basketball. Do we let everyone play, or only a specific few? The sport of a society reflects the inequality tolerated by that society. (Direct analogy to actual civilization, which is the spreading of female access and wealth from one alpha man to multiple beta men.)

You already know where this is going: American sports are uniquely and precisely designed to select, crown, and worship a tiny elite population of very large men. It does this by systematically stripping away avenues of success of small men.

Avenue 1: no contraptions. Size doesn't matter in sports that test for tool proficiency. "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal." This includes weapon sports (shooting, archery, fencing) and to a lesser extent net-and-ball sports. American sports don't involve tools, except the bare minimum of a ball (any less and we would be left with mere pugilism).

Avenue 2: no pound-for-pound activities. Size is a serious penalty in sports where players manipulate their own bodyweight (in accordance with the square-cube law). This includes climbing and gymnastics. American sports never involve those activities; they never require inversion of the body.

Avenue 3: direct contact without weight classes. This one's particularly brutal. In the jungle, the biggest animal wins; that's why human games have weight classes. Yet American sports manage to do away with those! How do you take away something so fundamental incontrovertibly without pushback? By only valuing team sports. Team sports have the convenient property that they cannot have weight classes without logistically unfeasible segmentation. (Basketball limited to short people? You mean the WNBA?) This setup traps small men to play against large men in the same league. Add in emphasis on direct contact, and small men are literally bounced away. (As a cherry on top, the social aspect of team sports weeds out loners.)

Apply these filters and it's no coincidence you get the classic American sports: football, basketball, and baseball. Now that we've eliminated any way small men can win, there's no wonder large men rise to the top. It looks like they've won by themselves, but the entire system was geared toward them the whole time.

In other words, if you had to design a perfect system to lionize large men over small men with a veneer of meritocracy, you'd be hard pressed to come up with something that wasn't the modern American sporting system.

What's the point of sport in other cultures? To celebrate civilization; to celebrate the contributions of small and large men alike. What's the point of sport in America? To worship primitive Chad; to worship Paul Bunyan; may the largest man win, every cash and every prize. American sport is a 250 lb, 6'6 bully stamping on a 100 lb nerd's face — for ever.

Happy Super Bowl Sunday.

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american football is dumbest sport ever
 
Footnotes:
  • Skill doesn't trump size. At the pro level, skills is necessary but not sufficient.
  • Even women can outshoot men at guns; women can't out-tennis men (Braasch vs Williams).
  • Americans play every sport, but football, baseball, and basketball garner the greatest prestige and market, followed by the slightly less size-centric sports hockey and soccer. I'd venture to say that only those sports have prestige in the American psyche — gymnasts, despite their athleticism, are practically loner nerds in high school.
  • The most popular sport worldwide is, of course, soccer. If you can run, you can play. (I remember when 5'8 Luka Modrić became an unwitting icon here.)
  • Asians do not worship size and Asian sports that demand size are niche (sumo and Mongolian wrestling). Asian sports tend to emphasize dexterity (gymnastics, ping-pong, badminton). Japan likes baseball, but that's because they worship America now.
  • Footballers can do flips, but they aren't relatively any good at them.
 
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TLDR; it’s all about mogging in JewSA’s sports
 
What meritocracy do you speak of, you have to be genetically gifted to succeed in any sport.

In some it's height, in some you have to have superior motor skills, it's irrelevant.
 
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What meritocracy do you speak of, you have to be genetically gifted to succeed in any sport.

In some it's tall, in some you have to have superior motor skills, it's irrelevant.
You're missing the point. Which genetics do we value, and how worthless is their absence? In this, American sports are extreme.
 
You're missing the point. Which genetics do we value, and how worthless is their absence? In this, American sports are extreme.
Succeeding in American sports is extreme in the sense that the number of professional teams is very limited.

There are 450 players in the NBA, thus you have to be gifted both in the terms of motor skills and height.

There is a very limited number of skilled positions in the NFL, to be a linebacker you only need to be a tall fat piece of meat.

But to make it at the top echelon of any sport you need to be extremely genetically gifted, whether it's in terms of motor skills or height is irrelevant.
 
I get what you're trying to say about Chad worship in Cuckmerican sports, just wanted to point out that sport in general is the antithesis of a meritocratic system
 
Posted this elsewhere but @Lv99_BixNood asked for its own thread.

Watching other men play sports as a hobby is pitiful. Even worse is watching sports you can't ever be good at. Most male sports fans are in heavy denial about this: you have to weigh 250 lbs to play football, and you have to be 6'6 to play basketball. In pro leagues, the size advantage is insurmountable.

There are two axes on which a sport can speak to its society:

Axis 1: ideal physique. At the high level of a nationally popular sport, maximum effort is put forward by all competitors, bringing us back to genetics. From this perspective, different sports are simply filters for different genetics: calisthenics for small men, powerlifting for large men. Which body type is the best? The sport of a society encapsulates the ideal physique of that society.

Axis 2: Gini coefficient. Some "civilized" sports admit a wide range of body types; others heavily favor a specific trait. Anyone can play golf; only the tall can play basketball. Do we let everyone play, or only a specific few? The sport of a society reflects the inequality tolerated by that society. (Direct analogy to actual civilization, which is the spreading of female access and wealth from one alpha man to multiple beta men.)

You already know where this is going: American sports are uniquely and precisely designed to select, crown, and worship a tiny elite population of very large men. It does this by systematically stripping away avenues of success of small men.

Avenue 1: no contraptions. Size doesn't matter in sports that test for tool proficiency. "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal." This includes weapon sports (shooting, archery, fencing) and to a lesser extent net-and-ball sports. American sports don't involve tools, except the bare minimum of a ball (any less and we would be left with mere pugilism).

Avenue 2: no pound-for-pound activities. Size is a serious penalty in sports where players manipulate their own bodyweight (in accordance with the square-cube law). This includes climbing and gymnastics. American sports never involve those activities; they never require inversion of the body.

Avenue 3: direct contact without weight classes. This one's particularly brutal. In the jungle, the biggest animal wins; that's why human games have weight classes. Yet American sports manage to do away with those! How do you take away something so fundamental incontrovertibly without pushback? By only valuing team sports. Team sports have the convenient property that they cannot have weight classes without logistically unfeasible segmentation. (Basketball limited to short people? You mean the WNBA?) This setup traps small men to play against large men in the same league. Add in emphasis on direct contact, and small men are literally bounced away. (As a cherry on top, the social aspect of team sports weeds out loners.)

Apply these filters and it's no coincidence you get the classic American sports: football, basketball, and baseball. Now that we've eliminated any way small men can win, there's no wonder large men rise to the top. It looks like they've won by themselves, but the entire system was geared toward them the whole time.

In other words, if you had to design a perfect system to lionize large men over small men with a veneer of meritocracy, you'd be hard pressed to come up with something that wasn't the modern American sporting system.

What's the point of sport in other cultures? To celebrate civilization; to celebrate the contributions of small and large men alike. What's the point of sport in America? To worship primitive Chad; to worship Paul Bunyan; may the largest man win, every cash and every prize. American sport is a 250 lb, 6'6 bully stamping on a 100 lb nerd's face — for ever.

Happy Super Bowl Sunday.

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Choose your fighter chad chet kyle tanner
 
To paraphrase a certain famous Muslim, "force is the only language Americans understand"
 
Americans play every sport, but football, baseball, and basketball garner the greatest prestige and market, followed by the slightly less size-centric sports hockey and soccer.
I'd say hockey is more size centric than baseball. Baseball and soccer are the least size centric sports as there are many positions where manlets have a chance (and only three where they have zero chance).
 
I'd say hockey is more size centric than baseball. Baseball and soccer are the least size centric sports as there are many positions where manlets have a chance (and only three where they have zero chance).
Don't know anything about baseball. Where do manlets have a chance?
 
The popularity of those specific sports probably grew as societys standards changed and more and more men were valued purely on their physical appearance. When the games were first invented anybody could play and there would have been whites only and blacks only teams. At that time skilled sports like snooker etc were just as popular but as LMS became the key ranking mechanism more eyes were drawn towards games where pure physicality was the deciding factor.
 
What's the point of sport in other cultures? To celebrate civilization
There's nothing to celebrate about civilization. Humans are parasitic in nature and deserve to be destroyed at no matter the cost. This is the truth that most of all 8 billion parasites dare to denie.


They are the antagonist.
 
American football is a facsimile for war.
 
Reliance on genetic factors is why I'm so into competitive cycling. Riders of any height and even muscle fiber composition can be competitive due to power/weight, power/Cda ratios
 

Posted this elsewhere but @Lv99_BixNood asked for its own thread.

Watching other men play sports as a hobby is pitiful. Even worse is watching sports you can't ever be good at. Most male sports fans are in heavy denial about this: you have to weigh 250 lbs to play football, and you have to be 6'6 to play basketball. In pro leagues, the size advantage is insurmountable.

There are two axes on which a sport can speak to its society:

Axis 1: ideal physique. At the high level of a nationally popular sport, maximum effort is put forward by all competitors, bringing us back to genetics. From this perspective, different sports are simply filters for different genetics: calisthenics for small men, powerlifting for large men. Which body type is the best? The sport of a society encapsulates the ideal physique of that society.

Axis 2: Gini coefficient. Some "civilized" sports admit a wide range of body types; others heavily favor a specific trait. Anyone can play golf; only the tall can play basketball. Do we let everyone play, or only a specific few? The sport of a society reflects the inequality tolerated by that society. (Direct analogy to actual civilization, which is the spreading of female access and wealth from one alpha man to multiple beta men.)

You already know where this is going: American sports are uniquely and precisely designed to select, crown, and worship a tiny elite population of very large men. It does this by systematically stripping away avenues of success of small men.

Avenue 1: no contraptions. Size doesn't matter in sports that test for tool proficiency. "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal." This includes weapon sports (shooting, archery, fencing) and to a lesser extent net-and-ball sports. American sports don't involve tools, except the bare minimum of a ball (any less and we would be left with mere pugilism).

Avenue 2: no pound-for-pound activities. Size is a serious penalty in sports where players manipulate their own bodyweight (in accordance with the square-cube law). This includes climbing and gymnastics. American sports never involve those activities; they never require inversion of the body.

Avenue 3: direct contact without weight classes. This one's particularly brutal. In the jungle, the biggest animal wins; that's why human games have weight classes. Yet American sports manage to do away with those! How do you take away something so fundamental incontrovertibly without pushback? By only valuing team sports. Team sports have the convenient property that they cannot have weight classes without logistically unfeasible segmentation. (Basketball limited to short people? You mean the WNBA?) This setup traps small men to play against large men in the same league. Add in emphasis on direct contact, and small men are literally bounced away. (As a cherry on top, the social aspect of team sports weeds out loners.)

Apply these filters and it's no coincidence you get the classic American sports: football, basketball, and baseball. Now that we've eliminated any way small men can win, there's no wonder large men rise to the top. It looks like they've won by themselves, but the entire system was geared toward them the whole time.

In other words, if you had to design a perfect system to lionize large men over small men with a veneer of meritocracy, you'd be hard pressed to come up with something that wasn't the modern American sporting system.

What's the point of sport in other cultures? To celebrate civilization; to celebrate the contributions of small and large men alike. What's the point of sport in America? To worship primitive Chad; to worship Paul Bunyan; may the largest man win, every cash and every prize. American sport is a 250 lb, 6'6 bully stamping on a 100 lb nerd's face — for ever.

Happy Super Bowl Sunday.

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baseball? da fuq
 
american-centric thread, sports like rugby, hockey and actual football have the same issues, its not endemic to america and the age of sports being made to "celebrate civilization" stopped being a thing a long time ago alongside the ancient greeks
 
I'd say hockey is more size centric than baseball. Baseball and soccer are the least size centric sports as there are many positions where manlets have a chance (and only three where they have zero chance).
baseball? da fuq
The average NHL player is 6'1 199 lbs. The average MLB player is 6'2 209 lbs. The FIFA 2018 average was 6'0 170 lbs. Soccer is significantly smaller, and baseball is bigger than you think. 200 lbs is admittedly merely the average weight of a fat American male, but we're talking about fit athletes here.

Also for reference, the average NFL player is 6'2 245 lbs, and the average NBA player is 6'6 215 lbs. (This matches my original post.)

The most capable of manipulating reality around itself
To my point, even jungle animals have the option of avoiding larger individuals. American males who wish to play sports (at least those sports that their society gives prestige to) do not.
 
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To paraphrase a certain famous Muslim, "force is the only language Americans understand"
and is that directed at the latinx people coming into usa by millions soon to take it over?
 
and is that directed at the latinx people coming into usa by millions soon to take it over?
no it's a quote by osama bin laden in 911... faked mossad quote or not, you can't deny that it's right
 
Whoever likes it is an automatic gay.
 
You missed the big thing that distinguishes Americoid sportsball: it's all teamshit. In real life, individuals get shit done. Successful individuals can then hire a team under them, and fire them if they don't do as they're told.

This myth of a team of equals, with a captain who doesn't sign their paychecks, is the root of all kinds of cultural cancer. American culture lacks formal hierarchy and replaces it with clout. Whereas a formal hierarchy pushes both authority and responsibility upward, clout concentrates authority while dispersing responsibility. Clout produces situations where someone is able to exercise power without bearing the risks that come with it.

The best sports by far are individual sports, which cultivate the individual's ability to improve his own performance and insulate him from sabotage and socialfaggotry. They measure something objective.
american football is dumbest sport ever
 
You missed the big thing that distinguishes Americoid sportsball: it's all teamshit. In real life, individuals get shit done. Successful individuals can then hire a team under them, and fire them if they don't do as they're told.
I wrote a whole paragraph about how the emphasis on team sports was detrimental, but it's true that I only called out its ability to eliminate weight classing. Nice observation about false flat hierarchies.
 
Posted this elsewhere but @Lv99_BixNood asked for its own thread.

Watching other men play sports as a hobby is pitiful. Even worse is watching sports you can't ever be good at. Most male sports fans are in heavy denial about this: you have to weigh 250 lbs to play football, and you have to be 6'6 to play basketball. In pro leagues, the size advantage is insurmountable.

There are two axes on which a sport can speak to its society:

Axis 1: ideal physique. At the high level of a nationally popular sport, maximum effort is put forward by all competitors, bringing us back to genetics. From this perspective, different sports are simply filters for different genetics: calisthenics for small men, powerlifting for large men. Which body type is the best? The sport of a society encapsulates the ideal physique of that society.

Axis 2: Gini coefficient. Some "civilized" sports admit a wide range of body types; others heavily favor a specific trait. Anyone can play golf; only the tall can play basketball. Do we let everyone play, or only a specific few? The sport of a society reflects the inequality tolerated by that society. (Direct analogy to actual civilization, which is the spreading of female access and wealth from one alpha man to multiple beta men.)

You already know where this is going: American sports are uniquely and precisely designed to select, crown, and worship a tiny elite population of very large men. It does this by systematically stripping away avenues of success of small men.

Avenue 1: no contraptions. Size doesn't matter in sports that test for tool proficiency. "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal." This includes weapon sports (shooting, archery, fencing) and to a lesser extent net-and-ball sports. American sports don't involve tools, except the bare minimum of a ball (any less and we would be left with mere pugilism).

Avenue 2: no pound-for-pound activities. Size is a serious penalty in sports where players manipulate their own bodyweight (in accordance with the square-cube law). This includes climbing and gymnastics. American sports never involve those activities; they never require inversion of the body.

Avenue 3: direct contact without weight classes. This one's particularly brutal. In the jungle, the biggest animal wins; that's why human games have weight classes. Yet American sports manage to do away with those! How do you take away something so fundamental incontrovertibly without pushback? By only valuing team sports. Team sports have the convenient property that they cannot have weight classes without logistically unfeasible segmentation. (Basketball limited to short people? You mean the WNBA?) This setup traps small men to play against large men in the same league. Add in emphasis on direct contact, and small men are literally bounced away. (As a cherry on top, the social aspect of team sports weeds out loners.)

Apply these filters and it's no coincidence you get the classic American sports: football, basketball, and baseball. Now that we've eliminated any way small men can win, there's no wonder large men rise to the top. It looks like they've won by themselves, but the entire system was geared toward them the whole time.

In other words, if you had to design a perfect system to lionize large men over small men with a veneer of meritocracy, you'd be hard pressed to come up with something that wasn't the modern American sporting system.

What's the point of sport in other cultures? To celebrate civilization; to celebrate the contributions of small and large men alike. What's the point of sport in America? To worship primitive Chad; to worship Paul Bunyan; may the largest man win, every cash and every prize. American sport is a 250 lb, 6'6 bully stamping on a 100 lb nerd's face — for ever.

Happy Super Bowl Sunday.

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FUCKING SPORTS IS MEGA SCAM AGAINST INCEL AND SUB 5 DISTRSCTION FROM CHAD STEALING ALL THE PUSSY AND MONEY ITS A FUCKING RIGHT WING SCAM THATS WHY COMMUNIST COUNTRY BAN SPORTS THIS IS CRAZY I FUCKING CANT STAND SPORTS
 
What meritocracy do you speak of, you have to be genetically gifted to succeed in any sport.

In some it's height, in some you have to have superior motor skills, it's irrelevant.
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High IQ thread.

What about boxing and MMA? They have weight divisions and popular athletes in the lower weight classes. Traditionally heavyweights were the most popular fighters in America but this changed after the post-Soviet influx pushed the Americans off the top table.​
 
High IQ thread.

What about boxing and MMA? They have weight divisions and popular athletes in the lower weight classes. Traditionally heavyweights were the most popular fighters in America but this changed after the post-Soviet influx pushed the Americans off the top table.​
Mighty mouse is the most skilled mma fighter but his fights were not popular because he is 5'3 125lb. Heavyweights are the best to watch because they are the best. Weight classes should not exist if a smaller guy is successful then he really is a GREAT fighter like Mike Tyson.
 
Mighty mouse is the most skilled mma fighter but his fights were not popular because he is 5'3 125lb. Heavyweights are the best to watch because they are the best. Weight classes should not exist if a smaller guy is successful then he really is a GREAT fighter like Mike Tyson.
Canelo has been the most popular boxer for several years and he's 5'7.
 

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