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Doub said:
Has anyone changed his mind in here yet, or should we just call it a day? :D
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As a slavic man I'm entitled to slavic women, and if niggers and asians werent allowed in Slavic countries, Slavic women would have to settle for Slavic men.


Also white people are genetically recessive and are susceptible to the one drop rule, so in order for us to preserve the beauty of our race we must only fuck each other, by force if necessary. I don't want my children(if I ever have them) to have to choose between some fat chimp lipped mulatto or some mongoloid hapa.
 
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As a slavic man I'm entitled to slavic women, and if niggers and asians werent allowed in Slavic countries, Slavic women would have to settle for Slavic men.
HOLY COPAROLI THE COPE IS TOO STRONG!!!! ARRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!! (Btw it's the other way around for the time being, ALL women prefer whites, you have the option of Thailand but ethnics don't) (Plus even with the ethnostate they'd just chase slavic chad tbh tbh tbh)
 
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SUH said:
As a slavic man I'm entitled to slavic women, and if niggers and asians werent allowed in Slavic countries, Slavic women would have to settle for Slavic men.
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HOLY COPAROLI THE COPE IS TOO STRONG!!!! ARRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!! (Btw it's the other way around for the time being, ALL women prefer whites, you have the option of Thailand but ethnics don't)
Except we Slavic posters prooved frequently that Slavic women will prefer to fuck the ugliest chimplike trippie redd looking nog over an average Slavic man. Instead of drawing your conclusions from US soyboys walking with gook gfs, visit a Slavic country to see how much Slavic women love to race mix due to western propaganda shilling for (((cultural openness))) in Slavic countries.
 
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SUH said:
Except we Slavic posters prooved frequently that Slavic women will prefer to fuck the ugliest chimplike trippie redd looking nog over an average Slavic man.
Your proof is just a long list of anecdotes.

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Instead of drawing your conclusions from US soyboys walking with gook gfs, visit a Slavic country to see how much Slavic women love to race mix due to western propaganda shilling for (((cultural openness))) in Slavic countries.
It's the same really. Just be White and you're all G.
 
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Your proof is just a long list of anecdotes.


It's the same really. Just be White and you're all G.





Im in the US now and still and incel. What now?

Also I'm speaking from experience trying to date dozens of slavic women. 12 of the 30 I tried to date said they prefer Asian guys and rejected me. My friend's roastie former FWB boasted about fucking 4 nigerians in an orgy in the netherlands and said all her Slavic friends fucked black guys. So first visit a Slavic country and then we'll talk. Unfortunately there are no studies done on Slavic female's racial preferences, but if you hear from most Slavic men that their women are coalburners and have yellow fever, you can't deny that this is a trend. Evildoer and VST confirmed my experiences. That makes the vast majority of Slavic men here.
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(Plus even with the ethnostate they'd just chase slavic chad tbh tbh tbh)

During communism Slavic betas and autists could much more easily find a gf than now.
 
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>Red pilled
Just leave bro. Just leave. r/TRP is elsewhere. The Red pill is literally Cuck training 101.
I think he meant jew-wise, which was the original meaning of the term "redpilled" that the pick up artist community co-opted.
 
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I think he meant jew-wise, which was the original meaning of the term "redpilled" that the pick up artist community co-opted.
Ahh. I see. My bad.
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Also I'm speaking from experience trying to date dozens of slavic women.
Anecdotes, anecdotes. Now some proof? I can provide my own anecdote and say the opposite of literally everything you've said, but that'd be pointless.
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Unfortunately there are no studies done on Slavic female's racial preferences
Exactly. No studies, no talk.
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During communism Slavic betas and autists could much more easily find a gf than now.
It was a political state, not a racial one. Aren't you lot the ones that cry "communist!" every time anyone says something that isn't from the Turner Diaries?
 
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Good. We should all welcome each other into our open arms. Drop your race and declare your nation first. Love it. :feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:

Race is important because its a biological fact, we can't just ignore it, its better if we just accept our differences. The way I see it: Nation, Culture, Religion, and Race are all intertwined, it's crucial for a Nation to have an Ethnic identity. America is a white nation, but that doesn't mean only whites are welcome. As long as you don't enter illegally and assimilate into the culture I don't see any problem
 
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I want to fuck white women, and white women are the most attractive race of female by far and as a white male I am entitled to having them, not a bunch of mongrels or darkies who get them because of >muh dick or >muh media diversity
Nah, asian women are the best.
 
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Ahh. I see. My bad.

Anecdotes, anecdotes. Now some proof? I can provide my own anecdote and say the opposite of literally everything you've said, but that'd be pointless.
When most Slavic males say these anecdotes, dont you think something's actually going on?

Exactly. No studies, no talk.

All JBW studies were done only in the US, not in europe, so youre full of shit regarding your blanket statement.

It was a political state, not a racial one. Aren't you lot the ones that cry "communist!" every time anyone says something that isn't from the Turner Diaries?


During communism my country was unironically more proud of its history and race than now.
 
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Are you retarded? Communism destroyed our national identity, introduced Jewish domination, gave femoids rights. Pre-1917 Russia was far, far better. State-sponsored antisemitism, panslavism and patriarchy.
 
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Race is not a biological fact. There are no race boundaries in biology, only species boundaries (and even these are not always impenetrable). Race is an arbitrary classification decided by xenophobes to exclude some of humanity.
Objective reality contradicts you. Every field of science that studies humans have discovered the differences between the races. Whether it be psychology which documents the IQ and temperament differences between the races, to medicine which documents differences in susceptibility to genetic disorders between the races. If we threw race out the window and just went with equality of outcome, then we would see a lot more whites, asians, etc in the NFL instead of qualified people (blacks), or we would see a lot more blacks and mexicans in Tech fields instead of qualified people (whites, asians) and that scenario is pretty terrible for the world
 
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Every field of science that studies humans have discovered the differences between the races.
The only fields of "science" that consider race are social studies in deeply racist countries like the USA. This is not really science. Or if it is, it's definitively not in the same category as a hard science like biology, which does not recognize races formally.
 
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The only fields of "science" that consider race are social studies in deeply racist countries like the USA. This is not really science. Or if it is, it's definitively not in the same category as a hard science like biology, which does not recognize races formally.
Biology admits that there are biological differences between the races, so I don't know what you're referring to there?

Another thing, IQ is more reliable and valid than any other psychometric test ever designed by psychologists, it is the most reliable indicator of a whole host of things relating to human behavior. The field of psychology also can't dispense with the racial differences in IQ. This is something very real.

You need to stop drinking the ZOG juice and stay away from marxism.
 
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Biology admits that there are biological differences between the races, so I don't know what you're referring to there?
That's just not true. I dare you to give me a reference to a single biology paper from the last 30 years that studies or even recognizes human races. At best you'll find fringe pseudo-science financed by racist interests.

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Another thing, IQ is more reliable and valid than any other psychometric test ever designed by psychologists,
That's just saying how bad psychology is.

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it is the most reliable indicator of a whole host of things relating to human behavior. The field of psychology also can't dispense with the racial differences in IQ. This is something very real.
To get a good score at an IQ test, you need to have had a good education. This is completely biased if you compare groups with radically different access to education. If you're born white the chances you'll get a good education are vastly superior than that of a person born black, be it because they're from countries at different stages of development, or from communities within a country that discriminate against the color of the skin.
 
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That's just saying how bad psychology is.
Wow you must have some done serious research to be able to discredit an entire field consisting of hundreds of thousands of professionals (of all races) who dedicated their lives to furthering the understanding of the field of psychology, you should publish your research! It would revolutionize everything!

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To get a good score at an IQ test, you need to have had a good education.
You have no idea what an IQ test is then, but for the sake of your next argument let's pretend that IQ tests are dependent on education

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This is completely biased if you compare groups with radically different access to education. If you're born white the chances you'll get a good education are vastly superior than that of a person born black, be it because they're from countries at different stages of development, or from communities within a country that discriminate against the color of the skin.

What about all the blacks that grew up in white communities and went to white schools and still scored within the black IQ distribution? What about all of the asians that grew up in white communities, went to white schools, and scored within the asian distribution (which is higher than the white and black distributions)? IQ is a standardized test, maybe you should do some more research on what IQ tests are.
 
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Wow you must have some done serious research to be able to discredit an entire field consisting of hundreds of thousands of professionals (of all races) who dedicated their lives to furthering the understanding of the field of psychology, you should publish your research! It would revolutionize everything!
Sure they do research, but they don't find shit when it comes to solving problems. Just look at your own bigotry and how it's still without a cure.

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What about all the blacks that grew up in white communities and went to white schools and still scored within the black IQ distribution? What about all of the asians that grew up in white communities, went to white schools, and scored within the asian distribution (which is higher than the white and black distributions)? IQ is a standardized test, maybe you should do some more research on what IQ tests are.
Schools only provide a portion of the education. When you got two parents doing overtime at minimum wage because they won't get any promotion due to the color of their skins, you don't get the same education as the offspring a tiger mom that forces her husband to be miserable sucking up to his boss so she can afford every educational help she can get.

Now you want to think that biology supports your xenophobic ideology, that's an insult to an entire field consisting of hundreds of thousands of professionals who do actual science.
 
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Now you want to think that biology supports your xenophobic ideology, that's an insult to an entire field consisting of hundreds of thousands of professionals who do actual science.
I'm not even xenophobic lol and I'm not even saying that IQ == value of human life. IQ DOES dictate what you are capable of doing. There isn't a job for everyone, and not everyone is capable of doing every job.

All I'm saying that it's no coincidence that majority of first world countries are white countries, USA included, and a significant portion of why that is, is NOT contributed to the exploitation of other races, I'm sorry break it to you. Most races just don't have what it takes to conceptualize and implement complex societies and nations... that's all I'm saying. The Asians are certainly capable of it, as shown in reality by the nations they have created, were they only able to do it by exploiting blacks??

Nature is a meritocracy, and those populations who don't have what it takes to make it, don't make it. It's as simple as that. Now, that doesn't mean other races can't join the party, but we have to be very careful about how we go about that. Mass immigration for example destroys nations, as witnessed historically, so white nations must remain white nations, otherwise they will turn into non-white nations (look in the world for examples of what that would look like *cough* Africa)

If you think [insert race of people] are capable of transforming their third world nation into one with a higher standard of living, then DO IT ALREADY. More power to ya if you can as far as I'm concerned
 
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All Doub @Doub has is buzzwords like bigotry and racism and discrimination to try to shout down race realism. You're a hack. Go back to reddit where everyone else is sticking their head in the sand trying to deny racial differences
>When you got two parents doing overtime at minimum wage because they won't get any promotion due to the color of their skins

This is why we have affarmative action in this country. The only people who are being discriminated against systematically in this country is white people.
 
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SUH said:
I don't want my children(if I ever have them) to have to choose between some fat chimp lipped mulatto or some mongoloid hapa.
SUH said:
As a slavic man I'm entitled to slavic women, and if niggers and asians werent allowed in Slavic countries, Slavic women would have to settle for Slavic men.

Racist: "Ethnics are uglier than us (chimp lipped, etc)"
Also Racist: "If Ethnics weren't around I'd have better chances dating women my race"

JFL you can't have it both ways idiot, if those traits you are using as a derogatory insult are unattractive then you won't have to worry about your children choosing an ethnic, nor would you have to see ethnics as competition. Your race is so beautiful like you said so why are you even worried lol.

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white people are genetically recessive and are susceptible to the one drop rule, so in order for us to preserve the beauty of our race we must only fuck each other

If your genes are recessive, then you've literally just admitted that your genetics are inferior therefore there isn't much beautiful about your race, honestly you should welcome the "upgrades" with open arms lol
 
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Ahh. I see. My bad.

Anecdotes, anecdotes. Now some proof? I can provide my own anecdote and say the opposite of literally everything you've said, but that'd be pointless.
When most Slavic males say these anecdotes, dont you think something's actually going on?
>Most Jews tell me to submit to them, I don't buy their BS either.
Exactly. No studies, no talk.

All JBW studies were done only in the US, not in europe, so youre full of shit regarding your blanket statement.
>Proof of that?
It was a political state, not a racial one. Aren't you lot the ones that cry "communist!" every time anyone says something that isn't from the Turner Diaries?


During communism my country was unironically more proud of its history and race than now.
>Maybe History, but I'm not too sure about the race part...
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All @Doub has is buzzwords like bigotry and racism and discrimination to try to shout down race realism
Don't confuse him with yourself.

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You're a hack. Go back to reddit where everyone else is sticking their head in the sand trying to deny racial differences
Go back to r/The_Donald or Stormfront

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>When you got two parents doing overtime at minimum wage because they won't get any promotion due to the color of their skins

This is why we have affarmative action in this country. The only people who are being discriminated against systematically in this country is white people.
You overestimate the power of affirmative action.

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Whether it be psychology which documents the IQ and temperament differences between the races, to medicine which documents differences in susceptibility to genetic disorders between the races.
Bullshit. Mind proving it some?

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I'm not even xenophobic lol
Are you even trying at this point?
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nd a significant portion of why that is, is NOT contributed to the exploitation of other races, I'm sorry break it to you.
I've tried my best, but I'm forced to tell you this. It WAS dude to the exploitation of every other race. I'm sorry my dude. I tried to protect your ganglion from the truth, but it seems I'm forced to give it to you.
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Nature is a meritocracy, and those populations who don't have what it takes to make it, don't make it.
It is a meritocracy of Crime. Nature selects the best criminals of ALL populations, and leaves the innocent and well to their death. Nature is an evil whore for the system SHE has created.
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What about all the blacks that grew up in white communities and went to white schools and still scored within the black IQ distribution? What about all of the asians that grew up in white communities, went to white schools, and scored within the asian distribution (which is higher than the white and black distributions)? IQ is a standardized test, maybe you should do some more research on what IQ tests are.
What about all the blacks that grew up in white communities and went to white schools and scored not within the black IQ distribution? What about all of the asians that grew up in white communities, went to white schools, and scored NOT within the asian distribution (which is higher than the white and black distributions)? IQ is not a standardized test, maybe you should do some more research on what IQ tests are.
 
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Fuck it, your views only hold up when you deny reality ProudIncelistani ProudIncelistani, there's no point in having a conversation with someone who denies reality
 
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If your genes are recessive, then you've literally just admitted that your genetics are inferior therefore there isn't much beautiful about your race, honestly you should welcome the "upgrades" with open arms lol
Recessive does not mean inferior, but there your side goes again either not understanding the meaning of terms or willfully misinterpreting what people are saying to "score a point" which is dishonest chickenshit.
 
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Recessive does not mean inferior, but there your side goes again either not understanding the meaning of terms or willfully misinterpreting what people are saying to "score a point" which is dishonest chickenshit.

White traits are easily replaced and "overwritten" with the traits of other races, if that isn't inferior I don't know what is, what the hell else would you call something that weak, how about we look up some synonyms for the word recessive.

https://www.powerthesaurus.org/recessive



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Fuck it, your views only hold up when you deny reality ProudIncelistani ProudIncelistani, there's no point in having a conversation with someone who denies reality
Hey, Nice ad hominem there! Are you ready to be a big kid now? (It's funny tbh the moment I ask you to prove YOUR interpretation of reality you're the one who calls ME delusional instead of actually trying...)

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Recessive does not mean inferior, but there your side goes again either not understanding the meaning of terms or willfully misinterpreting what people are saying to "score a point" which is dishonest chickenshit.
Well, actually according to WN logic, this is wrong. You're the ones who say whomever, in terms and within the parameter of race, can pass on their genetic information the best naturally (the fact that you were arguing about how your tribe is allegedly the strongest and they beat the shit out of natives and blacks to form South America and the Americas hence you are 'superior' or some shit) is the most superior, yet get CHEESED the moment that argument get used against you with your refugee and other immigrant buddies (#WelcomeRefugeees BTW).
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White traits are easily replaced and "overwritten" with the traits of other races, if that isn't inferior I don't know what is, what the hell else would you call something that weak, how about we look up some synonyms for the word recessive.

https://www.powerthesaurus.org/recessive

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White traits are easily replaced and "overwritten" with the traits of other races, if that isn't inferior I don't know what is, what the hell else would you call something that weak, how about we look up some synonyms for the word recessive.

https://www.powerthesaurus.org/recessive

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The genetic code that determines intelligence is recessive. The trait itself cannot compete with the trait that determines stupidity, which is dominant in the sense that it can beat out the other trait. So does this mean that the "dominant" traits nonwhites have produce more successful human beings? In a sense maybe, much the same way a virus destroys its host by multiplying faster than the host can handle. Is the virus superior to its host? But look at it another way. Blue eyes and blonde hair are both recessive traits yet produce far more attractive people, just look at you just be white retards making five threads a day. If the traits you dark skinned people have are so dominant than where are all the inventions? Where's the scientific breakthroughs and successful civilizations?
 
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The genetic code that determines intelligence is recessive. The trait itself cannot compete with the trait that determines stupidity, which is dominant in the sense that it can beat out the other trait. So does this mean that the "dominant" traits nonwhites have produce more successful human beings? In a sense maybe, much the same way a virus destroys its host by multiplying faster than the host can handle. Is the virus superior to its host? But look at it another way. Blue eyes and blonde hair are both recessive traits yet produce far more attractive people, just look at you just be white retards making five threads a day. If the traits you dark skinned people have are so dominant than where are all the inventions? Where's the scientific breakthroughs?
We meant within the parameter of race as you had earlier defined it you neek
 
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We meant within the parameter of race as you had earlier defined it you neek
Why don't you allow blackpillpres to speak for himself? And no he wasn't talking about race, he was talking about nonwhites traits being dominant therefore nonwhites are superior which in itself is a low IQ argument
 
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And no he wasn't talking about race, he was talking about nonwhites traits being dominant therefore nonwhites are superior which in itself is a low IQ argument
Race-based traits are still in the parameters of race. Try again.

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Why don't you allow blackpillpres to speak for himself?
Yea I do kek what's your problem?
 
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ElliotRodgerHere said:
Blue eyes and blonde hair are both recessive traits yet produce far more attractive people

The colour isn't inherently "more attractive", its considered attractive because its rare, if the majority of humans on earth had blue eyes then brown eyes would be seen as "more attractive", a "different" eye colour makes you "stand out".

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just look at you just be white retards making five threads a day. If the traits you dark skinned people have are so dominant than where are all the inventions? Where's the scientific breakthroughs and successful civilizations?

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there your side goes again either not understanding the meaning of terms or willfully misinterpreting what people are saying to "score a point" which is dishonest chickenshit.

1. A genetic trait being dominant has to relevance to whether the people bearing it will make "the right choices". Like I've said before, whites just happened to make the right discoveries at the right time based on their environment, there were things they likely needed to develop to survive as opposed to their black counterparts in a warmer climate with abundant food and resources, there wasn't this sense of "urgency" driving progress as there was with whites in colder climates, and like a domino effect it led to more and more discoveries and inventions, which led to colonialism etc, which led to whites being "at the top" today.

Whites success as a race had nothing to do with genetics granting them intelligence, it had to do with the fact that they had shittier living conditions lol, who really cares about inventing shit with you can sit back in the warm sun, fuck beautiful women and eat food that is abundant all day every day, there was no "urgency" driving blacks like there was whites. When your life is that simple and straight forward it never really dawns upon you that you can "make things better" and even if it did, you wouldn't really care, no point ruining a "good thing".

When your ancestors were worrying about not freezing to death my ancestors were worrying about much simpler "less urgent" problems, life for whites in those times were like an everyday struggle, living in a cold environment is much harder than living in a warm one, there just was no impetus to spur the past blacks on to invent or create, because they reached a certain point early on where all their needs could be met, they were satisfied. We didn't even reach the "first domino" that whites reached which lead to them creating more, there was no reason to.

2. Also I think you guys take pride in intelligence too much, intelligence is really just a substitute for "actual power".

Even in the Bible God didn't create the universe using intelligence and designing each facet bit by bit, he just said "let there be light" lol, he's just so powerful he can will his mental constructs into existence, there's no reason to assume God is intelligent, everything in the bible just alludes to him being powerful, intelligence is just a substitute for power. Humans crafted weapons for hunting because we lack claws, fangs and physical strength to kill efficiently, we created planes because we lacked the ability of flight.

Lets say we woke up tomorrow and all humans on earth had strong telekinetic psychic abilities, strong enough that we could effortlessly propel ourselves safely through the air at the speed of a jet engine, lift extremely heavy loads, etc, all with our minds. Do you realize how pointless planes would be at that point, would we even bother using machinery for construction, I doubt it, guns for wars..... complete waste of time, every person can deflect bullets. I hope you get the point I'm making.

Intelligence is just a substitute for actual power, we create things using intelligence ONLY BECAUSE we lack the abilities that would make such creations unimportant.

Lets use an example more relevant to our pathetic lives, sex. Everytime I mention my penis size online (5 inches) people always say - "just get good at oral", so I have to now learn techniques for something because I lack the ability to be good at sex without them, if I had 10 inches there'd be no need to be good at anything other than hip thrusts.

Intelligence (knowledge) is just a substitute for ability
 
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Race-based traits are still in the parameters of race. Try again.
Then my original points stands, your nonwhite traits are garbage because they produce ugly, low iq people. Whether or not they are dominant during the selection process is meaningless.
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The colour isn't inherently "more attractive", its considered attractive because its rare, if the majority of humans on earth had blue eyes then brown eyes would be seen as "more attractive", a "different" eye colour makes you "stand out".
Now THIS is a mega cope
 
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I'm not even xenophobic lol
You are. I'm not even sure why you deny it, most of the humanity is racist and xenophobic, why pretend you're not, especially on an anonymous place like the internet?

What makes you xenophobic is you think humanity is divided into different groups instead of being a continuous spectrum. This is the xeno part. And you think other groups threaten your own group (violently in the case of "blacks", intellectually in the case of "asians"). That is the phobic part.

The white nations didn't prosper because white people are superior. They did so because they had demographic pressure and opportunities. When you have a continent as large and lush as Africa, there's no need to invent the steam machine.
 
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What makes you xenophobic is you think humanity is divided into different groups instead of being a continuous spectrum. This is the xeno part.
Just like gender is a spectrum? Lol, that is ridiculous. We ARE divided into groups, that IS biology, nature. It's more important to accept our differences so we can actually deal with our problems, rather than just say "oh X doesn't exist... therefore, it's not a problem" like some feminist marxist, biology denier.

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And you think other groups threaten your own group (violently in the case of "blacks", intellectually in the case of "asians"). That is the phobic part.
There is a threat to my people, but it's not a threat from other races, it's a threat of social narrative and political narrative. Also, when did I ever say or imply that asian intellect was a threat to my people??? lmao dude if you re-read my comments you can see that I admire Asians for their intellect. Their existence supports psychology's findings about IQ considering that Asians are generally successful no matter what situation they find themselves in. Because they are, on average, higher IQ. So when blacks want to put ALL of the blame on whites for their problems, saying that whites are racist and that America only benefits whites, you can see how silly and wrong that claim is when you look at Asians in America. In reality, majority of the shortcomings that the black community faces is their own fault for the poor, low IQ choices they make day to day. There are plenty of black people who make out just fine in America, so you have to ask yourself: what does that individual black person have that majority of the black community doesn't? could it be that they are a standard deviation or two above the mean of the black IQ distribution, overlapping or surpassing the white mean?? it begs the question. I welcome anyone into my community who assimilates into my culture, regardless of skin color. There are plenty of white people I would not welcome into my community, based on what they believe and how they act and treat their property and the people around them. I am not xenophobic.

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The white nations didn't prosper because white people are superior. They did so because they had demographic pressure and opportunities.
Yes, we went through thousands of years of evolution in colder climates, where survival was much more difficult than in Africa, so it forced us to think more abstractly about the world around us and the individuals who couldn't do that would not pass on their genes (being isolated from the population in Africa caused us to select lots of different biological traits and evolve, so we can say yes that we are different biologically). So our IQ increased over generations from selective breeding with those who could survive (I recommend watching the documentary on the domestication of the Siberian Foxes to see a first hand example of how this works). It eventually led us to having the ability to abstract complex societies, nations, and technologies. Does that make us SUPERIOR to everyone else? No. It just makes us better at this one specific thing. And for a population of African descendants who are only a couple hundred years off of their main population in Africa to say and think that they can run a nation as complex as the united states, when they can barely even run a city (take a look a Detroit, would you really want to live there??) is ridiculous. Obama is half white, and was raised by a white family, and his family tree includes other US presidents like the Bushes lol (they are 10th cousins once removed). So if you want to see the fall of western society, and the removal of the only opportunity for people to have true freedom and prosperity, then keep hoping for the genocide of the White race. When the third worlders take over and enslave your descendants, they're going to wish we were still around. Otherwise, if you want to keep sharing freedom and prosperity, then we Whites need to remain majority in the West and it needs to be respected that certain nations are White nations.

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When you have a continent as large and lush as Africa, there's no need to invent the steam machine.
This is true
 
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Just like gender is a spectrum? Lol, that is ridiculous. We ARE divided into groups, that IS biology, nature. It's more important to accept our differences so we can actually deal with our problems, rather than just say "oh X doesn't exist... therefore, it's not a problem" like some feminist marxist, biology denier.
No, not like gender. Gender is a recognized biological concept. It is based on your genome. You either have two healthy X chromosomes, which makes you female, or one healthy X chromosome and one healthy Y chromosome, which makes you male. There are individuals outside of that, with either broken X and/or Y chromosomes, or surnumeral sexual chromosomes (like XXY trisomy). But these are an insignificant minority and don't constitute a spectrum.

What you call "black", or "asian", is not a single A or B situation. It's a combination of hundreds or thousands of individual genes that can recombine in a virtually infinite number of combinations. If there was only 40 genes that made you one "race", and that you can have or not, these genes alones could be recombined, that leaves you with more than one trillion different combinations. This is just basic biology and mathematics.

All the "groups" you want to define have fuzzy borders and large overlaps. They are not scientific, they are entirely defined by your ideology. If you wanted to improve as an individual, you should do some introspection and question all the thing that you presuppose and were probably taught by your community, and realize that some are wrong (like the fact that races are biological). And then you'd question the wrong ideas you've very logically evolved from the false presumptions.
 
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They are not scientific, they are entirely defined by your ideology. If you wanted to improve as an individual, you should do some introspection and question all the thing that you presuppose and were probably taught by your community, and realize that some are wrong (like the fact that races are biological).
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html

If race has no biological basis and is simply a social construct as you suggest then why do mixed race people have such a hard time finding bone marrow and organ donors?
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Gender is a recognized biological concept.
Until the powers that be decide biological differences between male and female are problematic and stop recognizing them entirely like what happened with race. Race used to be a topic that was studied by anthropologists until after world War 2 when the subject became taboo and even talking about it in the scientific community would get you blacklisted. Race realists have effectively been gaslit from major universities for 70 years now
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You are. I'm not even sure why you deny it, most of the humanity is racist and xenophobic, .
Racism and xenophobia are terms that weren't even in use a hundred years ago and were only popularized to get people to stop having in group preferences for their own people. Alot of this had to do with germany going over board with the whole idea, and alot of it has to do with jews manipulating our will to preserve ourselves so that they could flood our nation's with third worlders (nowhites). Racism is a trait that has an evolutionary advantage in that tribes who are more loyal to eachother and less trusting of outsiders were more successful than tribes who did not have strong feelings of in group preference. You can go around and call people racist but it is meaningless because racism is apart of human nature.
 
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No, not like gender. Gender is a recognized biological concept. It is based on your genome. You either have two healthy X chromosomes, which makes you female, or one healthy X chromosome and one healthy Y chromosome, which makes you male. There are individuals outside of that, with either broken X and/or Y chromosomes, or surnumeral sexual chromosomes (like XXY trisomy). But these are an insignificant minority and don't constitute a spectrum.

What you call "black", or "asian", is not a single A or B situation. It's a combination of hundreds or thousands of individual genes that can recombine in a virtually infinite number of combinations. If there was only 40 genes that made you one "race", and that you can have or not, these genes alones could be recombined, that leaves you with more than one trillion different combinations. This is just basic biology and mathematics.

All the "groups" you want to define have fuzzy borders and large overlaps. They are not scientific, they are entirely defined by your ideology. If you wanted to improve as an individual, you should do some introspection and question all the thing that you presuppose and were probably taught by your community, and realize that some are wrong (like the fact that races are biological). And then you'd question the wrong ideas you've very logically evolved from the false presumptions.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/...hlight-inequality-and-hinder-upward-mobility/ one of the many reasons why it's important not to ignore racial differences in humans. Also the Armed Forces has been studying this stuff since 1919, you really think you have evidence to disprove nearly a century of study on racial differences of cognitive ability? And that is just within the Armed Forces, you still have psychometricians and behavioral geneticists to answer to.
 
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If race has no biological basis and is simply a social construct as you suggest then why do mixed race people have such a hard time finding bone marrow and organ donors?
People with no immune system will accept any transplant. Should we re-engineer the human genome to erase our immune system from it? This "problem" just highlights how the immune system (among other aspects) of metis people is superior to that of pure breeds. You go fuck your sister and your kids will be able to exchange bone marrow when they stop drooling on each other (though you'll probably need a mixed race doctor to do the transplant).

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Until the powers that be decide biological differences between male and female are problematic and stop recognizing them entirely like what happened with race. Race used to be a topic that was studied by anthropologists until after world War 2 when the subject became taboo and even talking about it in the scientific community would get you blacklisted. Race realists have effectively been gaslit from major universities for 70 years now
"Scientists" used to think they could transmute lead into gold or that the Earth was the center of the universe. Then progress happened. Or was that all a conspiracy? Are you a flat-earther too?

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Racism is a trait that has an evolutionary advantage in that tribes who are more loyal to eachother and less trusting of outsiders were more successful than tribes who did not have strong feelings of in group preference. You can go around and call people racist but it is meaningless because racism is apart of human nature.
Violence has an evolutionary advantage. Should we just let people kill each other freely because it's in human nature? By some genetic lottery luck we got sentience. We should use it to better ourselves and work against our nature, it's no longer relevant in civilization.

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https://www.brookings.edu/research/...hlight-inequality-and-hinder-upward-mobility/ one of the many reasons why it's important not to ignore racial differences in humans.
Just like IQ, I'm not denying the results exist and are measurable, I'm just arguing genetics are not the cause. Correlation does not imply causation.

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Also the Armed Forces has been studying this stuff since 1919, you really think you have evidence to disprove nearly a century of study on racial differences of cognitive ability? And that is just within the Armed Forces, you still have psychometricians and behavioral geneticists to answer to.
Show me the studies, and how they accounted for bias.
 
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I'm just arguing genetics are not the cause

I wasn't aware that genetics have been removed completely from the equation and don't have any impact on the IQ differential

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Show me the studies, and how they accounted for bias.

Does it really matter what I show you? I have a feeling that this is going to go the way of every other person who already has their mind made up about a topic. If you already disagree with the studies that have been done on the topic, what would linking them here accomplish? You'll mostly likely just ad hominem, or say something like "oh the authors of this study are racists so their work can't be trusted"
 
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Non-whites are hypocrites.
 
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Does it really matter what I show you?
No, it doesn't matter. I don't think you can ever make me believe in human races. And conversely I'm confident I can't convince you either.
 
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Then my original points stands, your nonwhite traits are garbage because they produce ugly, low iq people.
A) How do nonwhite genes produce ugly and low iq people? (Oddly, I'll give you something odd to think about: For the ugly part, Doesn't that mean then that JBE is cope? Because we're all ugly from an """objective""" standard, but at the same time we're attractive to foids from the """objective""" standard?)
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Whether or not they are dominant during the selection process is meaningless.
According to WN logic, this is wrong, as WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF RACE, Dominance of genes is what matters for carrying them and the tribe into the next generation.

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Now THIS is a mega cope
Coming from the SFcel who actually believes that white-knighting for women will get him a foid. Now THAT'S Mega-Cope!

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Just like gender is a spectrum? Lol, that is ridiculous. We ARE divided into groups, that IS biology, nature. It's more important to accept our differences so we can actually deal with our problems, rather than just say "oh X doesn't exist... therefore, it's not a problem" like some feminist marxist, biology denier.
You know, if there's one thing he doesn't do, it's deny biology. If he did, he wouldn't even be here. While tbh tbh tbh tbh I'm yet to see any proof that shows that (((the races))) even exist, One thing's for sure: We MUST unite in the fight against nature. If we didn't set up against that whore nature, we'd "accept our differences" in terms of the genetics on the looks scale and join r/Cuckold. But we're here, and it's important to fight against that cruel whore nature, for she is the one to divide and cause strife and war.

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There is a threat to my people, but it's not a threat from other races, it's a threat of social narrative and political narrative.
I call BS. You believe that whites are superior, justify every atrocity against nonwhites by whites, want the total expulsion of nonwhites from white majority areas ignoring their contributions to the US because you're scared that "muh suBerior gayrian" genes will get "wiped out", and yet they're not a threat to you?

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where survival was much more difficult than in Africa
:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
Just who are you trying to fool here?

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Does it really matter what I show you?
Yes. Yes it does.

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If you already disagree with the studies that have been done on the topic, what would linking them here accomplish?
Don't be a pussi, just d0 it!

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You'll mostly likely just ad hominem
Hey! That's what you did to me when I asked you for your sources! :D

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or say something like "oh the authors of this study are racists so their work can't be trusted"
"oh the authors of this study are Jews/Anti-White so their work can't be trusted"

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And conversely I'm confident I can't convince you either.
Don't worry, It's possible!

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Non-whites are hypocrites.
Interesting. How so? :think::think::think::think::think::think::think::think:
 
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"Scientists" used to think they could transmute lead into gold or that the Earth was the center of the universe. Then progress happened. Or was that all a conspiracy? Are you a flat-earther too?
first of all race realism beliefs were the most prominent among anthropologists just 70 years ago whereas the flat earth hasnt been widely believed for 500 years and even then many people knew the earth was round but proclaiming that publicly was tantamount to blasphemy and could get you hanged. Much like having the wrong opinions about race today can cause you to lose your job or in places like britian can get you thrown in jail. the fact is people were right about some things in the past and wrong about other things. Race is one of the things that people of the past got right. Withholding womens rights was another thing they got right. Progress is synonymous with the deconstruction of the society we had before ww2.
 
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first of all race realism beliefs were the most prominent among anthropologists just 70 years ago
And the science 70 years ago is NOT the science today. Do we STILL believe in Niels Bohr model of the atom? No, even though we DID believe in it once...

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Race is one of the things that people of the past got right.
It's what they got WRONG, and lead to this society in the current year.
 
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And the science 70 years ago is NOT the science today. Do we STILL believe in Niels Bohr model of the atom? No, even though we DID believe in it
The structure of an atom has little if any political ramifications so it's not really comparable to race realism
 
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The structure of an atom has little if any political ramifications so it's not really comparable to race realism
You were arguing from the perspective of what scientists believed back in the day somehow automatically being correct in the modern day, so your original sentence wasn't really a political issue in the first place that bit, but still proves your point wrong...
 
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You were arguing from the perspective of what scientists believed back in the day somehow automatically being correct in the modern day,
nope, go back and read what I wrote. I never said just because scientists believed something in the past makes it automatically right
 
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nope, go back and read what I wrote. I never said just because scientists believed something in the past makes it automatically right
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first of all race realism beliefs were the most prominent among anthropologists just 70 years ago
Seems to match up to me. What's the problem here?
 
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somehow automaticallybeing correct
This is the part I take issue with. If you read my post I actually explicitly state that some things people got right in the past and other things we were wrong about. I even posted some examples so address my argument and not some strawman youve invented for yourself to knock down. I don't appreciate being misrepresented.