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@ZkinnyG Vs @gymletethnicel Why islam is the truth

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Either this dude I'm speaking to should inject IQ, or he's just awkwardly trying to "flex" his knowledge of the poop religion.
I know straight up hanging yourself from the livingroom ceiling fan or shooting yourself is haram. I thought you would understand that what I'm talking about, is strapping Semtex to your stomach and going crypto-ER in a crowded street. Martyrdom is OP, my dude.

Next time I'll speak in a more simple way, maybe with pictures and arrows so you will understand.
@gymletethnicel this White Nigger is hijacking our thread:feelsbadman:
 
Should people of other religions do the same?

Muslims do the same.

Now do you get my point?
No i’m biased
the reason why i think that other religions shouldn’t is because they don’t have anything to prove that their religion is true but that’s just me being biased

i think i get your points you’re trying to say to me that us muslims are forced to be muslims?
 
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@gymletethnicel this White Nigger is hijacking our thread:feelsbadman:
I'm trying to argue with you about islam and you respond with negative IQ stuff prompting a rational, although shocked (at your incompetence) response from me. Why are you surprised? Why do you want this thread to be a circlejerk of sandies coping with the Qoperan?
 
I'm trying to argue with you about islam and you respond with negative IQ stuff prompting a rational, although shocked (at your incompetence) response from me. Why are you surprised? Why do you want this thread to be a circlejerk of sandies coping with the Qoperan?
You’re mad cringy do you behave like this irl?
Man seriously is braindead you sound like a white kid with anger issues :lul:
 
That was my point, everyone is biased when it comes to the religion they are born into. How can you blame people for other religions for not following Islam when their bias stems from the same thing. You are no different than them, yet Allah criticizes these people.

I also asked why Allah makes Islam so hard to believe with all these weird things such as the Ya'juj and Ma'juj.


No, that was not my question. But it also a good question. Why are we forced to be Muslim?
You don’t understand what i meant the reason why i say this only to islam is because it has Facts to back itself up other religions don’t that’s why i think islam is right in this case to so this.

Can’t answer that last one allah fully but here is the answer i can give the reason why allah hides the metal sheet therein ya’juj and ma’juj hides is So that people Don’t start tearing up the sheets how do you think all The world leaders would react when they see a metal sheet with millions of people in it
They would start tearing it up and freeing these majuj yajuj and they would literally kill every human alive do you relise that?
That’s why they are preserves for the end of the times and are well hidden before that
 
Likewise, people of other religions use the same arguments and claim that they have evidence. There are many claims of science in Hindu books, no one uses them to claim that Hinduism is true. Christians use the NT with so-called evidence to claim that their religion is true.


Medieval scholars believed that Yajuj wal Majuj are a living tribe trapped behind a huge wall. With the advent of modern science and current knowledge of geography, it's rather hard to believe. No human structure is that fortified for thousands upon thousands of years. There is no mention of a metal sheet either btw.

Now there are scholars who are saying that Yajuj and Majuj should be re-interpreted because it does not conflate with the knowledge we have of the world.

Even the well-known scholar in the West, Yasir Qadhi knows that Yajuj and Majuj is bullshit:


Yajuj and majuj are mentioned in the Quran if you don’t belive in them you have gone against islam. Also Yasir isn’t a good example he does gymnastic around the verses i’ve seen him interpret lots of verses not fully correct.
Here are the verses where Yajuj and Majuj are mentioned

Until, when he reached [a pass] between two mountains, he found beside them a people who could hardly understand [his] speech. They said, “O Dhul-Qarnayn, indeed Gog and Magog are [great] corrupters in the land. So may we assign for you an expenditure that you might make between us and them a barrier?” He said, “That in which my Lord has established me is better [than what you offer], but assist me with strength; I will make between you and them a dam. Bring me sheets of iron” - until, when he had leveled [them] between the two mountain walls, he said, “Blow [with bellows],” until when he had made it [like] fire, he said, “Bring me, that I may pour over it molten copper.” So Gog and Magog were unable to pass over it, nor were they able [to effect] in it any penetration.} [Quran 18: 93-97]

Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend. And [when] the true promise has approached; then suddenly the eyes of those who disbelieved will be staring [in horror, while they say], “O woe to us; we had been unmindful of this; rather, we were wrongdoers.”} [Quran 21: 96-97]
 
Both modern day Muslims who douse themselves in either liberalism or reactionary Islamism and ex-Muslims who are 'muh science' new atheist pseudo intellectuals are retarded.

I see no solution until Sultan Erdogan restores the Ottoman Caliphate.
 
Both modern day Muslims who douse themselves in either liberalism or reactionary Islamism and ex-Muslims who are 'muh science' new atheist pseudo intellectuals are retarded.

I see no solution until Sultan Erdogan restores the Ottoman Caliphate.
Liberal muslims are such a joke tbh
Why be a muslim when your thinking go against much of islam:feelsbadman:
Which is just another reason why Islam is false. Zero evidence for Yajuj wal Majuj and good reason to believe that there is no such thing.


He is a certified scholar and he can give his own interpretations. There are many tafaseer, you can't just say one is more correct than the other. He is certainly more certified than you.


Ah I didn't know, I thought it was always a rock wall. Same thing still applies, this wall should have been discovered by now.

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You can’t give Evidence to miracule
It’s like me trying to prove that unicorns exist
Miracles are meant only to belive in
 
How are these different from fables that you find in other cultures and religions?
When did i say its diffrent in any way from other religions all i said is that you can’t prove them they’re only meant to belive in.
 
I never understood how a serious Muslim or Christian for that matter can spend so much time on a forum that's full of cussing, explicit sexual references, desires to do sex before marriage, and a bunch of other haram things. Wouldn't you be a little too wholesome for such a place?
 
I never understood how a serious Muslim or Christian for that matter can spend so much time on a forum that's full of cussing, explicit sexual references, desires to do sex before marriage, and a bunch of other haram things. Wouldn't you be a little too wholesome for such a place?
I’m here because i’m too ugly to get any females and in here is other people who also can’t get a female to like them. I just ignore those kind of comments tbh
 
I’m here because i’m too ugly to get any females and in here is other people who also can’t get a female to like them. I just ignore those kind of comments tbh
Alright fair enough.
 
Liberal muslims are such a joke tbh
Why be a muslim when your thinking go against much of islam:feelsbadman:

Liberalism knows no bounds. These "progressive" Muslims are more worse than the Jews. Luckily it's not as bad in the UK where most Pakis, Bengalis and Somalis hate liberal Muslims. American Muslims on the other hand, embrace secular liberal values as compatible with Islam.
1. Liberal Muslims, Reactionary Islamists and ex-Muslims is three sides. In any case I don't like to essentialize.

2. There is actually just one side - they were all born in the modern period which took secular modes of thinking and adopted them as solutions to their lives, countries or religion.

3. I do advocate there being some form of 'rethinking' or ijtihad, renovation or renewal or tajdeed in Islam in order to reconstruct Muslims lifestyles to deal with contemporary issues that is consistent with the classical traditional teachings - just as the scholars of the past did in order to meet the exigencies of their time. I see no hope in sight though....
 
Well, you believe in Islam's miracles, but not that of other religions. What makes Islam's miracles vali and others bullshit?. Anyway, I have other questions.

If you'd say that the creation is for our benefit then what is the benefit for those who will burn in the hellfire for all of eternity? Why did God create people who he knows will fail his test, just to suffer eternal torture? And why does Allah decide to test people for a very short period of time, yet punish people infinitely? If you will say that it is because of Allah's infinite knowledge then what is the point of creating this universe and this test if he could just as well throw people in the hellfire or paradise depending on where Allah has preordained them to be? Since it is Allah's knowledge and not people's finite actions that put people in the hellfire or paradise, not people's actions. And can a being who tortures the vast majority of people for all of eternity really be considered the most merciful and most forgiving of those who are able to forgive and have mercy? Even if I accepted that eternal hellfire is a fair punishment and that not believing in Islam is a crime, neither of which I don't. Was this really the best way to plan the universe? God is not omnipotent and he is not restricted. Why do you say that everything requires a cause when apparently Allah doesn't need a cause?

Why does it seem like Allah talks about a geocentric universe in the Qur'an? Didn't he know any better? And why does Allah cause suffering on this earth? If it is so that people can turn to him in desperation, then couldn't you just say that he is offering to fix problems that he has caused? Why did Allah not inform us about making water safe to drink by boiling it, but instead informed how you can torture people with it? Why did Allah not ban slavery and concubines, but instead banned bacon?
The reason i belive in islamic miracles once again is because of the other aspects of islam like the scietific facts and the predictions of the future, Islam has proven itself to be the religon of true in my eyes so everything else in the quran autumatically becomes true.

We both have free will we can controll what we want to do if we want to go play soccer we can do it it's our free will which allows that. The same can be apllied to The life of test we can choose to not belive in allah or be sinners and we can also choose to become righteous and belive in allah. So don't try to say that allah Autumatically made you to be in hell you had the free will to disbobey allah and that is what placed you in hell. Allah is the most merciful when you think about it. He Forgives everything but shirk That means that you can go out and kill or rape someone and still be forgiven. You can be the worst of the worst and still be forgiven that's how merciful allah is. Allah gives eternal paradise to people who only pray 5 times to him which takes like 40 min that's how merciful he is. Allah gave us life and is still keeping us alive. Allah could've placed us in hell or heaven straight up. But then that wouldn't be right. That's why allah made life as a test for us human beings so that we can't complain later about us not having chance and it being unfair.

Allah dosen't need a cause because he is the creator of everything.
time and space dosen't affect allah in anyway because he created it.

Allah Described the universe as geocentric beucause that is how it can be described what geocentrism means is that earth is immovable and is at the center of the universe. Geocentrism dosen't always mean that the earth is flat neither does it say in the quran that the earth is flat.

where ever in the unverse you are at you can interpret it as the center of the universe http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

The last questions are not worth a long response tbh
But if u want answers to them tell me
 
gay, just gay
 
MUSLIM FIGHT!!
 
I'm an atheist. It gets kinda annoying when you post your religion like its law. Just believe and move on. Dont try and pull others into it. They will follow the religion they want. Stop making these religion posts
 
Dkdk
 
I'm an atheist. It gets kinda annoying when you post your religion like its law. Just believe and move on. Dont try and pull others into it. They will follow the religion they want. Stop making these religion posts
Most of the times the threads are jokes how couldn’t you get it?
 
Seeing women posting Bible verses while wearing bikinis on insta is a reason why I'm considering converting to islam
 
You may ask Why Should you belive in religion?

You also may ask

-which religion is right there’s tons of them
This is where islam shines islam is the only religion out of all which backs itself up with scietific claims and predictions no other religion does have as acurate and astounding predictions of the future as islam have.
Here are the scientific facts

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY SCIENTIFIC FACTS FOUND IN THE QURAN. IT IS IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT THE QURAN IS NOT A BOOK OF SCIENCE, BUT THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SCIENCE.


Universe
A mobile phone is clearly something that was put together in an organised way, so it would be rational
to believe that it must have an organiser. In the same way, when we see the order in the universe
around us, isn’t it rational to say that the universe has an organiser?
“We shall show them our signs in the universe and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them
that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your lord is the witness of all things?”[Quran, 41:53]

Origin of life
The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the
microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came
from water.
“We made every living thing from water? will they not believe?”[Quran, 21:30]

Embryology
“We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly
fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made
the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)…” (Quran 23:12-14).


Sky’s protection
The sky protects the earth from the lethal rays of the sun. If the sky did not exist then the sun’s radiation
would have killed off all life on earth. It also acts like a blanket wrapped around the earth, to protect it
from the freezing cold of space. The temperature just above the sky is approximately -270oC. If this
temperature was to reach earth then the planet would freeze over instantly. The sky also protects life
on earth by warming the surface through heat retention.
“We made the sky a protective ceiling. And yet they are turning away from Our signs!” (Quran 21:32)

Iron
Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space.
This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck
by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded (M. E.
Walrath, History of the Earth’s Formation)
“We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind.” (Quran
57:25)





Seas and Oceans:
Modern Science has discovered that in the places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier
between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has its own temperature, salinity, and


He has set free the two seas meeting together. There is a barrier between them. They do not
transgress. (Quran, 55:19-20).

Sun’s orbit
The belief that the Sun is stationary was widespread amongst astronomers until the 20th century. It is
now a well-established scientific fact that the Sun is not stationary, but is moving in an orbit around the
centre of our Milky Way galaxy.
“It is He who created night and day, the sun and the moon, each floating in its orbit.”[Quran, 21:33]

Mountains:


the surface of the earth. Mount Everest, the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a
root deeper than 125 km.
“Did we not make the earth a resting place? and the mountains as stakes?”[Quran, 78:6-7]

Universe expanding


“And it is We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power and keep expanding it.”[ Quran,
51:47]

Skin pain receptors
For a long time it was thought that the sense of feeling and pain was dependent on the brain. However,
it has been discovered that there are pain receptors present in the skin. Without these pain receptors, a
person would not be able to feel pain.
We shall send those who reject our revelations to the (hell) fire. When their skins have been burned
away, We shall replace them with new ones so that they may continue to feel the pain: God is
almighty, all-wise.”[Quran 4:56]









Oceans
It is commonly thought that waves only occur on the surface of the ocean. However, oceanographers
have discovered that there are internal waves that take place below the surface of the ocean. These
waves are invisible to the human eye, and can only be detected by specialist equipment.
“Darkness out in a deep ocean which is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are
clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly
see it. Those God gives no light to, they have no light.”[Quran, 24:40]

Lying & Movement


this same region (frontal lobe) is responsible for the lying function of the brain. One such study at the
University of Pennsylvania in which volunteers were asked questions during a computerized
interrogation, it was found that when the volunteers were lying there was significantly increased activity
in the prefrontal and premotor cortices.
him: “No indeed! if he does not stop, We will seize him by the forehead, his lying, sinful
forehead.”[Quran, 96:15-16]. Allah does not call this person a liar, but calls his forehead (the front
part of the brain) ‘lying’ and ‘sinful’, and warns him to stop.

@MuslimCell
That's true for every religion. I believe hinduism has the best metaphysics and is probably the strongest expression of perennial truth.
 
Seeing women posting Bible verses while wearing bikinis on insta is a reason why I'm considering converting to islam
Come to the right path islam is way more based than christianity:)
That's true for every religion. I believe hinduism has the best metaphysics and is probably the strongest expression of perennial truth.
Post them
 
Come to the right path islam is way more based than christianity:)
Hopefully it's based. I'm tired of knowing single devoted Christian girls are born again virgins and single moms
 
Why must everything have a creator? If mobile phones has a creator then you assume universe has a craator, ok then what created the creator? If you say creator is eternal he did not need to be created then you just admitted the craator is not necessary to exist. Could as well be that universe itself was eternal and did not have a creator. And on the order of the world. If you roll a dice a million times and the. Suddenly that 1 time your friend comes over and you manage to roll it on the same number 10 times in a row just that one time it does not mean you are God it just means he was there at the right time and place and did not witness the other milion of failed attempts just like our universe.
 
Hopefully it's based. I'm tired of knowing single devoted Christian girls are born again virgins and single moms
Yeah bro it’s ultra based in islam a wife gotta do ehat her husband tells her also his wife can’t reject sex and a females testimony is half that of a man.
islam and the black are the same
Also jfl Look at all the atheist retards above

Stfu u Muslim ur annoying islam is a religion of oppresion:soy::soy:
 
Yeah bro it’s ultra based in islam a wife gotta do ehat her husband tells her also his wife can’t reject sex and a females testimony is half that of a man.
islam and the black are the same
Also jfl Look at all the atheist retards above

Stfu u Muslim ur annoying islam is a religion of oppresion:soy::soy:
I heard that from a friend. A wife can't reject sex advances from husband. A very interesting rule. Jfl @ Christianity I've learnt so far. In terms of that, I could get condemned in dead bedrooms in Christian marriage. Not a good marriage deal imo. And I should forgive my wife everytime she commits adultery with other men
 
I do not practice Islam nor do I follow it but one thing I do know that as a Christian, we are brothers alike @ZkinnyG . We all believe in the one God of the Abrahamic religions.
 
Fuck all religions tbh. Jfl at being incel and still believing in god. If he was real, that would mean the god left you hopeless and all it did was to worship stacies and chads meanwhile punishing you, an incel, with a lifelong suffering. I don't understand how you religious cucks can't see it tbh.
 
A broken clock is right twice a day.Your autistic religion has so much stupid shit in it.
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@MuslimCell
1for allah sake , what are you doing ? i am not ready for this .
but i have the right answer inshallah for the sun sinking in a muddy lake and gog an magog .
:feelsLSD:if you are interested i will share it ith you MURTAD .
@gymletethnicel
 
Fuck all religions tbh. Jfl at being incel and still believing in god. If he was real, that would mean the god left you hopeless and all it did was to worship stacies and chads meanwhile punishing you, an incel, with a lifelong suffering. I don't understand how you religious cucks can't see it tbh.
Major retard atheist cope
 

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