I am gonna get crucified for saying this, but I will say it anyways. Yes. Mentalcels exist and are legitimate, and shycels and socialanxietycels are also legitimate. This is NOT anti-blackpill nor is it bluepill. The bluepill is the belief that any guy, regardless of his genetics, can get girls easily just by having a good personality or being confident, and that if you can't get laid it's solely due to your personality or because you're depressed or self-loathing. This is obviously laughable logic. It doesn't say anything about mental illness, autism, shyness, or social anxiety.
What I am about to say is backed up by research. Yes, mentalcels exist and so do shycels and incels with social anxiety. Autisticcels definitely exist too. Anyone who denies this isn't blackpilled. The blackpill doesn't say that looks are the only thing that determine dating success, but also genetics. Mental illness is often innate, and sometimes comes from genes. Sometimes environmental factors cause it, but it's still innate and intrinsic.
Let's look at the data. Shall we?
Schizophrenia
Studies show that schizophrenics have lower numbers of children. In the paper
Schizophrenia and comorbid human immunodeficiency virus or hepatitis C virus, it found that schizophrenics were less likely to non-schizophrenics to be sexually active. Among those who were sexually active, they were more likely to engage in risky sexual behaviors such as lack of protection or promiscuity: "
Although being sexually active tends to be less common among patients with schizophrenia than among nonpsychotic individuals, patients with schizophrenia who are sexually active are more likely than nonpsychotic individuals to engage in high-risk behavior."
Some studies show that schizophrenics are more sexually active and sleep around a lot more than other people. In
one cross sectional study of people in Italy, 58% of schizophrenics had multiple sexual partners.
One research paper showed varying results, with some studies showing that schizophrenics are far more sexually active and some showing they are less sexually active.
OCD
There's also OCD.
People who struggle with severe OCD (something i struggled with from ages 19 to the beginning of 23) are less likely to have a sexual partner and some of which haven't had sexual intercourse in years. "Many patients do not have a partner (47% according to Freund and Steketee) or have not had sexual intercourse for years."
One study found this about 44 OCD patients (ages 19 to 52, mean age=32):
So it finds that they are less likely to have dated frequently (a majority (66%) did NOT date frequently), half did not have steady boyfirends/girlfriends, and only 27% had intercourse as a teenager, compared to a much higher percentage of non-OCD teens.
OCD patients often have sexual dissatisfaction and dysfunctions,
affecting 54-73% of them in classical studies.
Another study of OCD patients looked at sexual problems and of the 25 out of 46 patients (54.3% of the patients) (including 64% of the men having sexual problems compared to 42.86% of the women). 55.56% of the women with sexual problems and 37.6% of the men with sexual problems were virgins. 12.5% of the men with sexual problems were in permanent relationships with a long time of no sex compared to 11.11% of the women with sexual problems. This means that 50% of the OCD men with sexual problems and 66.667% of the women with OCD and simultaneous sexual problems were either virgins or haven't been sexually active in a long time. The average age of the 11 virgins was age 26 (SD=6.9 years).
Social phobia
According to
Sexual Function and Behavior in Social Phobia, the data found that men with social phobia lose their virginity a few years later than normal controls and 21% had sex exclusively with hookers whereas none of the normal controls had sex exclusively with hookers. 41.667% of men with social phobia in the sample had sex with a hooker before compared to only 8.33% of the normal men. They also had a little less sex partners than normal men.
Even sex and relationship therapists have acknowledged that many later-in-life virgins they meet suffer from extreme shyness or social anxiety disorder.
Other studies have shown that virgins over 40 years old are more likely to be obese, white, unemployed, from a lower-income household, and diagnosed with avoidant personality disorder or dependent personality disorder.
It's common for them to suffer from shyness, social anxiety or social awkwardness.
Love-shyness is also something that affects 1.5% of men, with research showing that virtually all of these men never will experience romance or sex in their lifetime. Look it up.
Even on this forum, most of y'all have social anxiety, bad social skills or shyness. Additionally, 25-40% of the people here have autism, and studies have shown that autistic men are significantly less likely to experience relationships, dating, sex, holding a woman's hand, or even their first kiss.
Shyness can cause inceldom and so can social phobia. I was a mentalcel for 4.5 years of my early adulthood and dealing with exceptionally severe OCD interfered with my life. I couldn't do anything with my life other than dealing with mental illness. At 23, i got it past me. Now i have lack of opportunities to meet people because no matter how much i put myself out there, I can't meet anyone or even encounter anyone. I barely spoke to girls at all since finishing HS (no i didn't date in HS either, fakecel hunters). Mentalcels and shycels are NOT volcels. Voluntary celibacy means someone who doesn't even WANT to experience intimacy, let alone tries to. Shyness is NOT something anyone can choose, same with social anxiety and bad social skills or mental illness. It's very difficult for many people to overcome shyness or social anxiety or mental illness, and it can interfere with their dating life by making it hard for them to approach people. Telling them they're volcels who need to just simply go and ask someone out is like telling a hobo "just buy a house" or telling someone with clinical depression "just cheer up" or telling someone with anxiety "just stop being anxious". It's completely equivalent to telling someone "just be confident", so you're acting similar to bluepillers. Shyness isn't a choice nor is mental illness or social anxiety, otherwise nobody would suffer it. What masochist would choose such a thing?! In order to be able to talk to someone and ask them out, you DO need social skills otherwise you can't even communicate let alone hold a good conversation. So how the hell are you gonna actually be able to ask them out or even have a proper date with them? This is why bad social skills and social awkwardness are barriers to dating and mental illness makes it very difficult for some people to overcome. Although many mentally ill people get laid a lot, there can be ones here and there who don't date or get laid because their mental illness makes it hard for them to do anything in life. they are busy dealing with their illness all the time and are unable to function with normal schedules. Shy people and socially anxious people can have a super hard time being able to talk to anyone. This is extreemly hard to overcome and thus telling them they're volcels who should approach someone is like telling someone "just buy a house" if they are hobos. A volcel is someone who chooses and WANTS to be celibate and would do anything to avoid it. They literally decide they will wait until marriage or for the right person or they don't want to ever experience intimacy. That's a volcel. Even standardcels I wouldn't even call volcels. If shyness/mental illness is volceldom, then according to your logic, anyone here is a volcel because most of you all never tried to put yourselves out there to meet people (like I did this past year). But you guys are still incel because this isn't something you want, but you gave up due to being doomed or messing up all your life.
I am NOT bluepilled because the bluepill believes you just need to be confident or have a good personality even if you're an autistic 1/10 deformed nasally voiced balding fat indian dwarf. Bluepillers believe it's your bad personality or lack of confidence that deters you. The blackpill doesn't just believe in looks, it believes in genetics, too. Even the scientific blackpill speaks about how autism and schizophrenia is a death sentence. Social anxiety disorder, autism, mental illness, etc. also can be genetic or at least intrinsic and just as intrinsic as your looks. It's, like looks, something determined by chance in what life or person you born being as or born into. If you deny the mentalpill or the autismpill or the shypill or socialanxietypill, you're NOT blackpilled.
This forum needs to be reformed, and its members need to learn more about this. We need to STOP gatekeeping anyone who isn't some short ugly ethnic guy. We need to realize that society stigmatizing virgins and showing NO empathy towards them is EXACTLY why we resorted to this forum in the first place. We had nowhere else to go. And when you gatekeep tons of incels from the forum because they aren't short ugly and ethnic, you are attacking your own people. You are a traitor to your own kind. You are oppressing your own people and are doing exactly what society does. You are joining society.
The gatekeeping in this forum NEEDS TO END. We need to welcome all incels. Tallcels, shycels, mentalcels, socialanxietycels, autistcels, mayocels, you name it. The only group who could be gatekept are high school incels. If you're under 18 and in High school, get off the forum. You're in a the easiest time of life to get laid or find a girlfriend and chicks have lower standards at your age. After high school its much harder to find a girlfriend or lose your virginity. Many 15 year olds here could easily find a girlfriend or lose their V card in the next couple years. Only autistic high schoolers or ones with social anxiety disorder can stay here. The rest shouldn't come back until they graduate. Yes, mentalcels and socialanxietycels and shycels DO exist.
Do NOT bring up anecdotal evidence to debunk what I said. Thats an IT move. only IT do that shit. Your unconfirmed anecdotes do NOT necessarily represent what usually happens and you CANNOT bring up anecdotes. Everything i say is backed up by RESEARCH PAPERS AND STATISTICS. If we're going to use research papers to backup lookism then why is research backing up the mentalpill or autismpill or shynesspill any different? That's not only the special pleading fallacy but you're cherrypicking research papers that only suit your perspective by saying "yeah but your research papers are false" when i bring up ones confirming the mentalpill or NTpill. We cannot deny research that disobeys our point of view. IT do that and we cannot do that because then we're using the special pleading fallacy and are cherrypicking and acting like a cult.
And before you faggots bring up mentally ill chads or shy chads, those are anomalies. Idk what research would show about them so I have nothing to say, but most of them ain't chads whatsoever. They probably don't have square jawlines and hunter eyes with cheekbones and shit. You don't have to be ugly to be incel.
TLDR: stop gatekeeping mentalcels and shycels. lots of research shows they're legitimate.
@Alone75 @-BrettyBoy- @Mentally lost cel thoughts?
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