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Say this was the 1980's and average people in Western Europe were living a standard of living that was a golden age. No normal person in Europe in the 1980's wanted to go with Russia.
But after 30 years of impoverishing their people by stealing the wealth for themselves, the EU big wigs wonder why they are so unpopular. People struggling with insecure employment, reduced benefits, falling wages, becoming renters whereas before their families were home owners and people who can't keep up with the rent as the rentiers raise the rent made homeless. At that point Russian communism looks pretty good, where you have a secure government job, your own commie block unit, your Yugo, nearly free fuel, electricity, water, cheap food and vodka and cigarettes.
There are ~120 million people in the ex-Warsaw Pact countries. It looks to me like majorities in most of those countries are with Russia now. Even in East Germany, the majority there are supporting Russia. If Russia takes all of Ukraine it might not be that hard to flip a bunch of those countries to ally with Russia.
The Russians have now demonstrated they can take serious losses on the battlefield and keep going. Its not a sure thing that the Euro countries will be able to rebuild their armies. Their armies are only about 1/4 the size they were in the 1980's. And even if they can rebuild the armies, will Euro soldiers be willing to fight it out and die in the trenches if necessary. Especially in countries where majorities are with Russia.
At the end of this war Russia is going to have a huge battle hardened standing army, and military industry ramped up at home, and once they takeover all of Ukraine they will add Ukraine's army to their own, which Ukraine is the number 2 standing army in Europe. It won't be as easy to stop as people online are saying.
But after 30 years of impoverishing their people by stealing the wealth for themselves, the EU big wigs wonder why they are so unpopular. People struggling with insecure employment, reduced benefits, falling wages, becoming renters whereas before their families were home owners and people who can't keep up with the rent as the rentiers raise the rent made homeless. At that point Russian communism looks pretty good, where you have a secure government job, your own commie block unit, your Yugo, nearly free fuel, electricity, water, cheap food and vodka and cigarettes.
There are ~120 million people in the ex-Warsaw Pact countries. It looks to me like majorities in most of those countries are with Russia now. Even in East Germany, the majority there are supporting Russia. If Russia takes all of Ukraine it might not be that hard to flip a bunch of those countries to ally with Russia.
The Russians have now demonstrated they can take serious losses on the battlefield and keep going. Its not a sure thing that the Euro countries will be able to rebuild their armies. Their armies are only about 1/4 the size they were in the 1980's. And even if they can rebuild the armies, will Euro soldiers be willing to fight it out and die in the trenches if necessary. Especially in countries where majorities are with Russia.
At the end of this war Russia is going to have a huge battle hardened standing army, and military industry ramped up at home, and once they takeover all of Ukraine they will add Ukraine's army to their own, which Ukraine is the number 2 standing army in Europe. It won't be as easy to stop as people online are saying.
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