Why i don't feel i'm persecuted for being Christian in this forum, nor are against the questions of incels who do not believe in God

[Krad]

I don't think i'm persecuted, in the sense that this place is not like a kingdom nor people are against me physically and etc, i would say it would be a exageration to say i'm being persecuted, or being ostracized in this forum.


About the questions of people who asks: "Why did God made me incel, why did God make me have such a terrible life"

It's a good question, and all i can say is that your suffering, the fact you are ugly is actually meaningless, in my view

Things like that, appearance, wealthy, status are things that God didn't call for a purpose, yes, God knew you before you even was born.


But God did not make you in the sense every aspect of your life was ditacted to Him, it was your fathers choices, that endup marrying someone and they had you.


However, God can make what is meaningless to have meaning, and this meaningless spiral become used in your advantage like any aspect of your life, things inside and outside of your control


Feel free to make more questions, but do it with the intention of knowing God's side rather than destroying my arguments, Faith or disprove Christianity, please.

 

[Krad]

Also i decided to move to politics, philosophy and religion after the warn i got from posting on the lounge

 

[Krad]

It's okay to have doubts, because doubts shows you are being genuine rather than blind Faith

 

[PLS HALP ME]

Most incels are stupid. God created man in His own image and likeness; He has nothing to do with my geneticsI inherited them from my parents.

 

[Calamari Sun]

Most incels are stupid. God created man in His own image and likeness; He has nothing to do with my geneticsI inherited them from my parents.

Tuff

 

[dumbozhina]

do it with the intention of knowing God's side rather than destroying my arguments, Faith or disprove Christianity, please.

contradicts your title man.
"nor are against the questions of incels who do not believe in God"
it's a free forum. i can post as long as i do not break the rules. speaking of breaking the rules, proselytization is against the rules.

all i can say is that your suffering, the fact you are ugly is actually meaningless

right right. what's real is meaningless, and what's fake (heaven, salvation, grace, jesus) is real or meaningful. . that is the mental condition of religious ppl.

God can make what is meaningless to have meaning

basically you are saying that ugly or incel ppl are more attracted to religion. of course that's the case.

 

[Krad]

contradicts your title man.
"nor are against the questions of incels who do not believe in God"

I'm saying i don't get mad when people do questions out of being genuine rather than malicious

it's a free forum. i can post as long as i do not break the rules. speaking of breaking the rules, proselytization is against the rules.

If it's a free forum, i can talk about God and Jesus how much i want, if people end up converting it's a byproduct of it, i have no business with sending others to churches

right right. what's real is meaningless, and what's fake (heaven, salvation, grace, jesus) is real or meaningful. . that is the mental condition of religious ppl

I never said they are not important, i'm talking that God is not the creator of your suffering and everything that goes wrong to you, it's not made by God.


Also, how can you say that a better place, that if exists, which is better in all ways than this reality we are of today (Heaven/New Earth), the idea of something that is impossible becoming possible (salvation), God infinite's mercy that is not tied in titles, merit or legacy (grace) and God becoming flesh saying He came to save the world and is to help it and heal it (Jesus Christ) be not important just as important, if not more important than the problems of today? God gives solution to all those problems

 

[Krad]

basically you are saying that ugly or incel ppl are more attracted to religion. of course that's the case.

God can use even that meaningless suffering, to many things, growth, lesson, wisdom, morality and etc.

And again, i'm not talking about religion, religion would mean a false equivalency to what i present

 

[Krad]

Feel free to make more questions, but do it with the intention of knowing God's side rather than destroying my arguments, Faith or disprove Christianity, please.

@dumbozhina cough cough

 

[dumbozhina]

If it's a free forum, i can talk about God and Jesus how much i want, if people end up converting it's a byproduct of it, i have no business with sending others to churches

whatever you say, this is both: active proselytization and shitposting.

I never said they are not important

you are implying that these are without purpose by asserting "Things like that, appearance, wealthy, status are things that God didn't call for a purpose"

i'm talking that God is not the creator of your suffering and everything that goes wrong to you, it's not made by God.

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."

 

[Krad]

whatever you say, this is both: active proselytization and shitposts

That's just my opinion, and a desire to find peace with those people, that they can view it amd we may be friends and all

 

[Krad]

you are implying that these are without purpose by asserting "Things like that, appearance, wealthy, status are things that God didn't call for a purpose"

Do you want to know what i'm talking about objectively?

 

[Krad]

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."

If you knew the scripture you would know God is not talking about genetical disaster or genetical darkness

 

[Krad]

Since you do not want to talk in a honest way, i have no obligation to answer you, if you want to be in endless debates go found someone else @dumbozhina

 

[dumbozhina]

If you knew the scripture you would know God is not talking about genetical disaster or genetical darkness

You turn things upside down!
Shall the potter be regarded as the clay,
that the thing made should say of its maker,
“He did not make me”;
or the thing formed say of him who formed it,
“He has no understanding”? Isaiah 29:16
have you ever read the bible man? although you claim you are a christian?

Since you do not want to talk in a honest way

stand by your point, although they are all shitty. do not flee.

 

[Needle]

I don't think i'm persecuted, in the sense that this place is not like a kingdom nor people are against me physically and etc, i would say it would be a exageration to say i'm being persecuted, or being ostracized in this forum.


About the questions of people who asks: "Why did God made me incel, why did God make me have such a terrible life"

It's a good question, and all i can say is that your suffering, the fact you are ugly is actually meaningless, in my view

Things like that, appearance, wealthy, status are things that God didn't call for a purpose, yes, God knew you before you even was born.


But God did not make you in the sense every aspect of your life was ditacted to Him, it was your fathers choices, that endup marrying someone and they had you.


However, God can make what is meaningless to have meaning, and this meaningless spiral become used in your advantage like any aspect of your life, things inside and outside of your control


Feel free to make more questions, but do it with the intention of knowing God's side rather than destroying my arguments, Faith or disprove Christianity, please.

But how is god truly? Sometimes i hear that he is kind or things like that but then he i think made people go and kill other people, and then he never actually does anything but still "tests" our fate. Why would he make us do this? it seems very childish to me, like if i dropped something good on the floor and tried to blame my cat if he went for it, it feels more natural to surrender to my human desires and it seems more natural to not believe in him so is he only playing with us?

 

[Krad]

But how is god truly? Sometimes i hear that he is kind or things like that but then he i think made people go and kill other people, and then he never actually does anything but still "tests" our fate. Why would he make us do this? it seems very childish to me, like if i dropped something good on the floor and tried to blame my cat if he went for it, it feels more natural to surrender to my human desires and it seems more natural to not believe in him so is he only playing with us?

Just to know, God does not tempt people into sinning, the one who does that is satan, he basically wants to bring people to his side, and that they start hating God and thinking that good is evil and evil is good, and use every single trick for that.

I'm curious about the human desires part, could you elaborate more?

 

[Krad]

Satan is also not God's dog, that goes there, but basically, before falling, satan wants to finish getting all of them who will go to hell, and he get his punish too

Because Adam and Eve sinned, Satan became kind of this monster who challenges humankind, and use every single form of trick to do that, and he knows, that sin is not happening again, so he pleads that before this cosmical event that is so catastrophic ends, he make it get as much people possible to separate who is from him and the others are from God (those who are good)

 

[Krad]

Think like this is a war between a rebel and a king, of course there will be a massive power imbalance between the king's authority and the rebel who openly is against the king

 

[Needle]

Just to know, God does not tempt people into sinning, the one who does that is satan, he basically wants to bring people to his side, and they starting hate God, and use every single trick for that.

About i'm curious about the human desires, could you elaborate?

Having fantasies, like people that want to kill or that they want someones life to go wrong, well if i went like that then it would be our emotions and then it would be about our freedom, but i mean that we are likely to suffer as humans, Why? i dont like suffering, no one likes suffering, and with suffering one gets the wrong desires, if i was a god i wouldnt make suffering exist

 

[Needle]

Why is suffering a thing if you could make it not exist?

 

[Krad]

Having fantasies, like people that want to kill or that they want someones life to go wrong, well if i went like that then it would be our emotions and then it would be about our freedom, but i mean that we are likely to suffer as humans, Why? i dont like suffering, no one likes suffering, and with suffering one gets the wrong desires, if i was a god i wouldnt make suffering exist

It's okay to feel mad over someone, but you do not need to low yourself to a level that isn't yours place, and yes, i understand the feeling of being completely enraged by someone.

But isn't it better that we control ourselves? I'm not saying that you should not want a desire of retribution, i just believe that God can handle much better than we can do.

What i recommend, which is to just examine and judge the intentions behind the reasons of wanting to kill someone, and if this is objectively right or wrong, and if this is good for you rather than something that is only creating self destruction, i think that's the word


About killing others with no reason, it's evil, and no one should be looking for that. Also this has nothing to do with things like on fiction, or videogames, it's okay to kill characters or do whatever they want with them, just don't let that consume you or be a bad influence to you in any way or form.

If this is the point, about using fiction to put murderous thoughts on the paper, you already know what i have to say because i already said it, if it's a actual person, if you do that privetaly, remember what i said about self control

If you want to show to them or to others shameful draws for them, what i said about revenge aplies here


Not all mean drawings to someone is evil though, some could be used as a act of justice, of actually righteousness, but it requires discernment of when and to who.

 

[Krad]

Why is suffering a thing if you could make it not exist?

Perhaps suffering is something to be seen at a very, very far distance, not in your house, better to not even see at all never

 

[Krad]

In your house, i mean reality, and outside reality, fiction, or hell

 

[Krad]

Heaven is like your house, reality, where you don't want suffering, nor anything unpleasent in there, like cockroaches, nobody wants to have cockroaches in their houses and those annoying bugs