Why does the North American far right have so many non-white figureheads?

[Hoodpreet]

Looking across different subsections, you see:

• Christian right - Nick Fuentes (like 15% Amerindian and has trace black ancestry too)
• Pagan/Nietzschean right - BAP (MENA mutt through one Ashkenazi parent)
• HBD - Ubersoy (Mostly Jewish)
• Generic Dissident Right - Gypsycrusader (jeet, MENA, Amerindian ancestry)
• Esotericists - Robert Sepehr (Half Iranian Jew)

I’m not trying to be a jeet gatekeeping whiteness, but the fact of the matter is that if you believe race is genetic, you have to concede that someone who is “racially white/European” must genetically cluster with other Europeans, and none of the aforementioned people do.

While ig Fuentes is arguably useful as part of their “pipeline” due to his ability to penetrate into the mainstream, and Ubersoy does genuinely make good content, idk why white North American RW men keep the others around. Especially Gypsy and Sepehr who just serve to make them look stupid imho.

Tbh it reeks of unseriousness to me, cause how can you claim to be planning to reclaim your countries from browns yet at the same time be unable to gatekeep your movement from said browns? If the ideological fracture between the Christian and Nietzschean Right wasn’t already bad enough, shit like this just seems to add to their inability to be taken seriously or get much done

 

[Hoodpreet]

Thoughts? @Uggo Mongo @Excalibur @DarkStar @MacheteRape @Fat Link

 

[AutistSupremacist]

The Bolsheviks killed EVERY. SINGLE. white person to walk the Earth. Lower estimate of 60 trillion casualties. This is why all white nationalists today are brown.

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

Far right =/= racial Hygiene in the name of eugenics
It can be that, but it doesn't need to. Nick, HT, Gypsy etc. are mostly grifters trying to make a quick buck off of their audience.

Also race is really unimportant in a modern setting. Get past that shit, especially as you are a self reported Indian on an anglophone Website.

 

[Excalibur]

I miss the old Alt-Right days when Richard Spencer and Patrick Casey were the leading dissident voices.

 

[Hoodpreet]

The Bolsheviks killed EVERY. SINGLE. white person to walk the Earth. Lower estimate of 60 trillion casualties. This is why all white nationalists today are brown.

Brootal

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

Nick, HT, Gypsy etc. are mostly grifters trying to make a quick buck off of their audience.

Shut the fuck up faggot, you don't even care about our race dying, go fuck yourself

 

[Hoodpreet]

Also race is really unimportant in a modern setting. Get past that shit, especially as you are a self reported Indian on an anglophone Website.

What does me being curry have to do with asking this question? You can clearly see if you read the post that I spoke from an outsider’s POV here, not as if I’m part of the Dissident Right (I’m not)

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

What does me being curry have to do with asking this question? You can clearly see if you read the post that I spoke from an outsider’s POV here, not as if I’m part of the Dissident Right (I’m not)

I think that dudes a gypsy who thinks Germans are inferior

 

[Hoodpreet]

I think that dudes a gypsy who thinks Germans are inferior

I’m aware he’s gypsy. Didn’t know about the latter part though lol

 

[Hoodpreet]

Thoughts? @Uggo Mongo @Excalibur @DarkStar @MacheteRape @Fat Link

Forgot @FuckYou

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

I think that dudes a gypsy who thinks Germans are inferior

Yes, I am gypsy
Please give €
Too late!
Already stole your wallet from your pocket
And your copper cables from inside your walls
Very nice!

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

Germans are inferior

At breeding, they are. Never claimed that they are inferior at most things or at everything.
Just said that they can't breed ergo they could have all the positive traits in the world, but since they are unable to spread their culture and genetic naaterial they will disappear.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

At breeding, they are. Never claimed that they are inferior at most things or at everything.
Just said that they can't breed ergo they could have all the positive traits in the world, but since they are unable to spread their culture and genetic naaterial they will disappear.

You're neglecting the fact that they didn't have a problem with that until very recently, ie that isn't inherent or natural to their race. Europeans were able to conquer the entire world, the fact we are so diminished now is unnatural and caused by outside factors (Jews) and if you cared at all about the white race you would've supported national socialism/Hitler in his fight to save it

 

[VλREN]

Patrick Casey

I miss that nigga

 

[FuckYou]

I have no idea tbh but it's a very funny phenomenon.

Generic Dissident Right - Gypsycrusader (jeet, MENA, Amerindian ancestry)

He's so mixed it's actually insane.

View: https://youtu.be/8HNuTFKwktg

 

[Lonely Slav]

BAP and Übersoy are poor examples, since both would objectively cluster with my compatriots (esp. the latter, since he took a test that showed he's actually circa 30% Ashkenazi).

You're neglecting the fact that they didn't have a problem with that until very recently, ie that isn't inherent or natural to their race. Europeans were able to conquer the entire world, the fact we are so diminished now is unnatural and caused by outside factors (Jews) and if you cared at all about the white race you would've supported national socialism/Hitler in his fight to save it

No, we need not Hitlerite National Socialism. The core belief system of German National Socialism was Germanicism, which let's be honest with ourselves here, was not pan-European in the slightest.

 

[Emba]

The jews killed EVERY. SINGLE. white person to walk the Earth. Lower estimate of 60 trillion casualties. This is why all white nationalists today are brown.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

No, we need not Hitlerite National Socialism. The core belief system of German National Socialism was Germanicism, which let's be honest with ourselves here, was not pan-European in the slightest.

 

[MacheteRape]

Funnily enough, the actual Whitest subsection of the far-right nowadays is the one I belong to, that being Siegekultur. The thing is, all the people you’ve listed here aren’t even White supremacists (not counting Gypsy).

Nick and the Groypers are anti-White, as showcased by Nick’s endorsement of Kanye West over an actual NS organization (the NSN), and the fact that Nick’s loyalists have an obsession with based browns o algo.

The BAPosphere is deeply anti-White. BAP encourages people to “not care” about Israel, all his Twitter butt buddies hold nothing but contempt for impoverished Whites, and BAP himself is obsessed with nude men.

I didn’t know ubersoy had his own subsection in the dissident right, so I can’t tell you anything of use.

The generic dissident rightists have a surprising amount of overlap with the BAPist types, but they differ in what their output is; begging and pleading for ZOG’s crumbs. The worst example of this is solionath on twitter. ALL his posts are just him going in some deranged lefty’s comment section and tagging Homeland Security, prostrating himself before the system so they can ban one Sri Lankan lesbo on twitter.

I haven’t hung around the esotericists much, but they don’t seem to really do anything of actual note. Thats indictment enough.

The Siegekultur types are the only true pro-White community left, and that’s because they have a burning hatred for half-measures, which the communities I have listed above revel in.

 

[Blackpill Monk]

Far right =/= racial Hygiene in the name of eugenics
It can be that, but it doesn't need to. Nick, HT, Gypsy etc. are mostly grifters trying to make a quick buck off of their audience.

Also race is really unimportant in a modern setting. Get past that shit, especially as you are a self reported Indian on an anglophone Website.

Kill yourself you filthy Gypsy

 

[WhitePilledRage]

I have no idea tbh but it's a very funny phenomenon.

He's so mixed it's actually insane.

View: https://youtu.be/8HNuTFKwktg

He's mostly Caucasoid. Doesn't look niggerish or like a shitskin indio/gook.

 

[blackpillednigga]

I miss the old Alt-Right days when Zionist #1 and Zionist #2 were the leading dissident voices.

 

[Hoodpreet]

BAP and Übersoy are poor examples, since both would objectively cluster with my compatriots (esp. the latter, since he took a test that showed he's actually circa 30% Ashkenazi).

DNA test posted by BAP on his Costin Alamariu account:

View: https://x.com/costin_eats/status/1701431178199261642?s=20


As for Ubersoy yeah it seems I was misinformed; My bad about that

View: https://x.com/UBERSOY1/status/1978157844965810448?s=20

 

[Hoodpreet]

He's mostly Caucasoid. Doesn't look niggerish or like a shitskin indio/gook.

Nigga it literally says he’s nearly 30% Jeet and 41% West Asian. He is not European and never will be.

Also this “Caucasoid” shit is a cope. AASI genetics are the one group the one drop rule arguably should apply to, considering jeets are completely useless and have zero redeeming qualities

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

outside factors (Jews)

It is well known that the jooos came to Europe in the year of our Lord, Jesus Christ son of a jewess, 1945

if you cared at all about the white race you would've supported national socialism/Hitler in his fight to save it

I do not care about anything though, much less le white race

Kill yourself you filthy Gypsy

Oh no! When you put it like that my life as a copper stealin', loud music playin', dirty gyppo has no purpose. I will commit seppuku because the opinions of @Blackpill Monk are so important to me. A dirty gypsy like me is worth less than nothing if the one great Monk of is calls me out or that.
Goodbye cruel NIGGER! To think that I would give a shit implies that you are delusional. Touch some grass, I know that I will

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

Too late!
Already stole your wallet from your pocket

Combustibil de viata pentru tiganiceli!

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

I do not care about anything though, much less le white race

This is why you should shut the fuck up and not utter a word about politics or race as a faggot with a severe case of anencephaly and raped-by-uncle syndrome. Just shut your little cock sucking mouth

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

Just shut your little cock sucking mouth

No.
I will call you schizos out for believing crazy shit and not being able to back it up. If our little discussion will show even one person how unreasonable you people are, I will have done my part.
The alternative to believing crazy shit is not believing in anything, so until you reach this conclusion I'll keep on calling you out.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

No.
I will call you schizos out for believing crazy shit and not being able to back it up. If our little discussion will show even one person how unreasonable you people are, I will have done my part.
The alternative to believing crazy shit is not believing in anything, so until you reach this conclusion I'll keep on calling you out.

I'm so sorry you were born like this. I'll pray for you every night don't worry

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

believing crazy shit and not being able to back it up

Like what? That Jews are behind LGBT and feminism? That niggers are dumber than whites? Pretty sure I backed all that up already but we can have that convo again if you want

 

[AsiaCel]

You forgot

 

[AsiaCel]

Also, to answer your question..

It's impossible for America to push for racial purity now, as all the influencers are non white or mixed. As more mongrels are born, the chance of a pure white revolution gets increasingly low.

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

Like what? That Jews are behind LGBT and feminism? That niggers are dumber than whites? Pretty sure I backed all that up already but we can have that convo again if you want

Believe whatever you want. I'll jus drop something and perhaps then you will know what it takes to prove a relation of causality.

The Metaphysics of Causation (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

Believe whatever you want. I'll jus drop something and perhaps then you will know what it takes to prove a relation of causality.

The Metaphysics of Causation (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

You will never unrape your mother and make yourself a legitimate child

 

[Rapistcel]

Looking across different subsections, you see:

• Christian right - Nick Fuentes (like 15% Amerindian and has trace black ancestry too)
• Pagan/Nietzschean right - BAP (MENA mutt through one Ashkenazi parent)
• HBD - Ubersoy (Mostly Jewish)
• Generic Dissident Right - Gypsycrusader (jeet, MENA, Amerindian ancestry)
• Esotericists - Robert Sepehr (Half Iranian Jew)

I’m not trying to be a jeet gatekeeping whiteness, but the fact of the matter is that if you believe race is genetic, you have to concede that someone who is “racially white/European” must genetically cluster with other Europeans, and none of the aforementioned people do.

While ig Fuentes is arguably useful as part of their “pipeline” due to his ability to penetrate into the mainstream, and Ubersoy does genuinely make good content, idk why white North American RW men keep the others around. Especially Gypsy and Sepehr who just serve to make them look stupid imho.

Tbh it reeks of unseriousness to me, cause how can you claim to be planning to reclaim your countries from browns yet at the same time be unable to gatekeep your movement from said browns? If the ideological fracture between the Christian and Nietzschean Right wasn’t already bad enough, shit like this just seems to add to their inability to be taken seriously or get much done

We shouldn't use the term "far right"

 

[Blackpill Monk]

Touch some grass,

"Touch grass", these words are said by bluepilled normies

 

[Blackpill Monk]

It is well known that the jooos came to Europe in the year of our Lord, Jesus Christ son of a jewess, 1945


I do not care about anything though, much less le white race


Oh no! When you put it like that my life as a copper stealin', loud music playin', dirty gyppo has no purpose. I will commit seppuku because the opinions of @Blackpill Monk are so important to me. A dirty gypsy like me is worth less than nothing if the one great Monk of is calls me out or that.
Goodbye cruel NIGGER! To think that I would give a shit implies that you are delusional. Touch some grass, I know that I will

DNR and kys you filthy shitskin muttoid

 

[Lonely Slav]

DNA test posted by BAP on his Costin Alamariu account:
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View: https://x.com/costin_eats/status/1701431178199261642?s=20


As for Ubersoy yeah it seems I was misinformed; My bad about that
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View: https://x.com/UBERSOY1/status/1978157844965810448?s=20

Your own yardstick was: "if you believe race is genetic, you have to concede that someone who is “racially white/European” must genetically cluster with other Europeans."

Someone who is half Ashkenazi Jewish and half Romanian would cluster with south-eastern Europeans.

Funnily enough, the actual Whitest subsection of the far-right nowadays is the one I belong to, that being Siegekultur. The thing is, all the people you’ve listed here aren’t even White supremacists (not counting Gypsy).

Nick and the Groypers are anti-White, as showcased by Nick’s endorsement of Kanye West over an actual NS organization (the NSN), and the fact that Nick’s loyalists have an obsession with based browns o algo.

The BAPosphere is deeply anti-White. BAP encourages people to “not care” about Israel, all his Twitter butt buddies hold nothing but contempt for impoverished Whites, and BAP himself is obsessed with nude men.

I didn’t know ubersoy had his own subsection in the dissident right, so I can’t tell you anything of use.

The generic dissident rightists have a surprising amount of overlap with the BAPist types, but they differ in what their output is; begging and pleading for ZOG’s crumbs. The worst example of this is solionath on twitter. ALL his posts are just him going in some deranged lefty’s comment section and tagging Homeland Security, prostrating himself before the system so they can ban one Sri Lankan lesbo on twitter.

I haven’t hung around the esotericists much, but they don’t seem to really do anything of actual note. Thats indictment enough.

The Siegekultur types are the only true pro-White community left, and that’s because they have a burning hatred for half-measures, which the communities I have listed above revel in.

I am no fan of BAP, since i always thought he was a populariser of a dumbed down Nietzscheanism mixed with moronic spiritual nonsense like the denial of evolution, but credit's due where it is due: he is good insofar as he popularises RW themes and ideas, and an urge to destroy what is ugly because it is ugly. But it's no use to make something grander out of him.

 

[Hoodpreet]

Someone who is half Ashkenazi Jewish and half Romanian would cluster with south-eastern Europeans.

Aren’t Ashkenazi like 50% MENA though on avg? I would assume having 25%+ MENA autosomal DNA would pull someone just outside of the core European cluster

 

[Lonely Slav]

Aren’t Ashkenazi like 50% MENA though on avg?

Yeah, something like that, but the proportion will differ depending on the model.

I would assume having 25%+ MENA autosomal DNA would pull someone just outside of the core European cluster

They do, but I can't be arsed to run a simulation or look anything up rn. I don't think it makes much sense to split Jews as European and Levantine halves when computing for how white they are, I only used that framing to show that focusing solely on clustering is a poor metric.

Having said that, as a matter of "biopolitics," a quarter Jew like Übersoy can be finely white as long as he doesn't identify as Jewish. For half Jews, things would be much murkier, especially since it would be hard not to see themselves as part Jewish, so a case by case scenario - I think most wouldn't pass.