Why does everyone on this site so strongly support Capitalism despite being poor?

[bcroger]

I'm not sure about your personal situation, I mean you could be a rich person or an Engineering or IT major, but I don't know why some incels who are NEET or otherwise broke always seem to support hard core capitalism even though they never even benefit from it? They seem to support corporate tax cuts to a tee despite having no money, in many cases, in the stock market for example? Or they are against even tuition free community college or trade schooleven though it may help them learn a skill/trade?

Again, there are some incelw who are actually successful or are into great paying majors (such as engineering or accounting or finance) and then again I understand, why I don't get why the broke or otherwise NEET ones support pro-capitalist policies even though they benefit nothing from it?

 

[Sheldor]

I'm not sure about your personal situation, I mean you could be a rich person or an Engineering or IT major, but I don't know why some incels who are NEET or otherwise broke always seem to support hard core capitalism even though they never even benefit from it? They seem to support corporate tax cuts to a tee despite having no money, in many cases, in the stock market for example? Or they are against even tuition free community college or trade schooleven though it may help them learn a skill/trade?

Again, there are some incelw who are actually successful or are into great paying majors (such as engineering or accounting or finance) and then again I understand, why I don't get why the broke or otherwise NEET ones support pro-capitalist policies even though they benefit nothing from it?

You don't have to stay broke. And you don't have to become RICH. To have a good life in middle class, is for everyone possible, who is willing to work 40-45 hours per week. Escpecially as an incel who does not have children & lives alone. If a man works 40-45 hours per week, and lives alone, he lives a very good life. Better then most people on earth. Luxury. But if someone only works 20 hours part time or does not work, THEN HE STAYS BROKE

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Capitalism may have its faults but it's the best system we've got. NEETS are justified in their support of Capitalism as it's the only economic system that will subsidize their unproductive lifestyle. If we lived under Communism, Feudalism or Corporatism the average day would be spent doing labor.

 

[bcroger]

You don't have to stay broke. And you don't have to become RICH. To have a good life in middle class, is for everyone possible, who is willing to work 40-45 hours per week. Escpecially as an incel who does not have children & lives alone. If a man works 40-45 hours per week, and lives alone, he lives a very good life. Better then most people on earth. Luxury. But if someone only works 20 hours part time or does not work, THEN HE STAYS BROKE

You make a point. I don't earn much, but I save a lot because I still live with my parents.

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

It's the best system humanity has tried yet.

 

[Veyron]

I support incels revolution

 

[bcroger]

Capitalism may have its faults but it's the best system we've got. NEETS are justified in their support of Capitalism as it's the only economic system that will subsidize their unproductive lifestyle. If we lived under Communism, Feudalism or Corporatism the average day would be spent doing labor.

Yeah, but a NEET would be better off in Norway, Canada or Sweden than they would be in the USA because they would have free healthcare in those nations.

 

[bcroger]

It's the best system humanity has tried yet.

Yeah, but a NEET would be better off in Norway, Canada or Sweden than they would be in the USA because they would have free healthcare in those nations.

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Yeah, but a NEET would be better off in Norway, Canada or Sweden than they would be in the USA because they would have free healthcare in those nations.

The nordic states are capitalist. It's just welfare capitalism.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

It's still possible for ugly men to make a good income through wageslavery, although these days are dwindling and eventually will end. Then I don't know what the answer is.

 

[fullofchagrin]

It's still possible for ugly men to make a good income through wageslavery, although these days are dwindling and eventually will end. Then I don't know what the answer is.

even if an incel is rich, he is still a part of the lower class in terms of social (not economical) hierarchy

 

[bcroger]

even if an incel is rich, he is still a part of the lower class in terms of social (not economical) hierarchy

True

 

[Smiggles]

It's the best system humanity has tried yet.

 

[bcroger]

@TheLastRhodesian

Yeah, but a NEET would be better off in Norway, Canada or Sweden than they would be in the USA because they would have free healthcare in those nations.

 

[Excalibur]

Yeah, but a NEET would be better off in Norway, Canada or Sweden than they would be in the USA because they would have free healthcare in those nations.

All these countries are very capitalist and owe their prosperity to capitalism combined with a homogeneous population. Having social programs does not mean that you cannot have an economy that is predominantly privately owned, which, in short, defines capitalism. How do you still not understand that?

 

[ApocalypticKrieg666]

Capitalism may have its faults but it's the best system we've got.

You don't believe in communism, it's just an aesthetic?

 

[AutistSupremacist]

You don't believe in communism, it's just an aesthetic?

Communists believe in the power of capitalism. It is a necessary stepping stone to achieve communism. As things are now, the current left has not the organization or political power to conduct a communist revolution. If, my some miracle the state had a Bolshevik or Chinese style revolution it would collapse really quickly due to the amount of retards in the communist movement.

 

[bcroger]

All these countries are very capitalist and owe their prosperity to capitalism combined with a homogeneous population. Having social programs does not mean that you cannot have an economy that is predominantly privately owned, which, in short, defines capitalism. How do you still not understand that?

But why are low income incels against free community college or government run healthcare, even though it would help them?

 

[Excalibur]

But why are low income incels against free community college or government run healthcare, even though it would help them?

Who has said this?

 

[Glassness]

people be weird I guess only reason I can think like it because of freedom what it does give but I don't like freedom

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

I think its also because a lot of people who support communism are people who support the whole woke shit, so some people might just dislike communism because they cant stand the people who support it

 

[bcroger]

I think its also because a lot of people who support communism are people who support the whole woke shit, so some people might just dislike communism because they cant stand the people who support it

But why are low income incels against free community college or government run healthcare, even though it would help them?

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

But why are low income incels against free community college or government run healthcare, even though it would help them?

First, like I mentioned because they hate on the people who support it. And the majority of people who support this stuff are people who also support the whole woke stuff, which they dislike.
Second because they know that it will cost them, everything a goverment is doing is less efficient then the same thing organized by private economy and even though they are low- income they have to finance it, so they have to pay for things they maybe never use, while already having low-income. Rich people pay more for all of this, but they are less effected by it because they have more money and can afford to spend it on such things.
Third because it has a negative effect on the economy because of bad goverment projects efficency.
Fourth because like most people they want to decide on their own what to spend their money on. The thing is if you dont want govermental health care for yourself, because you want to spend your money on something else, like personal retirement fund, or your investing money on your own which is ment to be used for health issues, then you cant because you are forced to pay for smth you dont want, even if you would say that it would beneficial for you, if you dont want, you dint want, even if its "good" for you

 

[bcroger]

First, like I mentioned because they hate on the people who support it. And the majority of people who support this stuff are people who also support the whole woke stuff, which they dislike.
Second because they know that it will cost them, everything a goverment is doing is less efficient then the same thing organized by private economy and even though they are low- income they have to finance it, so they have to pay for things they maybe never use, while already having low-income. Rich people pay more for all of this, but they are less effected by it because they have more money and can afford to spend it on such things.
Third because it has a negative effect on the economy because of bad goverment projects efficency.
Fourth because like most people they want to decide on their own what to spend their money on. The thing is if you dont want govermental health care for yourself, because you want to spend your money on something else, like personal retirement fund, or your investing money on your own which is ment to be used for health issues, then you cant because you are forced to pay for smth you dont want, even if you would say that it would beneficial for you, if you dont want, you dint want, even if its "good" for you

Yeah, but i'm not talking about doing anything crazy- that is Medicare for all, a $15 minimum wage, free university etc. I am just talking the MOST basic safety net features- that is tuition free community college or pre K, child tax credits, investing in trade schools, a government run healthcare insurance system to compete with the Jew private corporations. A poor person may have to pay like $2 more in taxes per month.

I agree that a free healthcare system would NOT work because of all the morbidly obese black/hispanic/native American women and because niggers keep killing each other. It would be abused by them. But I am talking a basic government run, not for profit insurance that poorer Americans can buy into with they have since they cannot afford private insurance. It would compete with the private sector.

Nothing wrong with a marginally better safety net.

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

Yeah, but i'm not talking about doing anything crazy- that is Medicare for all, a $15 minimum wage

Minimum awage at this days would mean that compamys couldnt compete with their concurrence in other countries without such thing, it would result in a lot of people gettin fired and replaced by AI/ machines, simply because their current employers couldnt afford to pay them such wage

free university

I Dont think poor people would use it, because they cant afford to pay for their kids for 3 years, also the potential inflation of degrees would result in the degrees beein less and less worth, because you have more competetors, which would result into you having a useless degree which cant compare to one which was achieved in a private universaty and at some their simply arent enough academic workplaces, to give them to anyone, so it would become a game of connections or personal qualities which cant be gained through pure studying

A poor person may have to pay like $2 more in taxes per month.

You underestimate the immense ineffecency of goverments and the costs of only the healthcare system, I know the coasts in germany, its about 12% of your monthly income in addition to taxes etc. And thats a lot of money if you dont earn much in the first place.
And with a govermental health care system you would be forced to pay for it, no matter if you can afford it or not

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

All forms of government suck, it's just capitalism sucks the least.

 

[bcroger]

Minimum awage at this days would mean that compamys couldnt compete with their concurrence in other countries without such thing, it would result in a lot of people gettin fired and replaced by AI/ machines, simply because their current employers couldnt afford to pay them such wage

I Dont think poor people would use it, because they cant afford to pay for their kids for 3 years, also the potential inflation of degrees would result in the degrees beein less and less worth, because you have more competetors, which would result into you having a useless degree which cant compare to one which was achieved in a private universaty and at some their simply arent enough academic workplaces, to give them to anyone, so it would become a game of connections or personal qualities which cant be gained through pure studying


You underestimate the immense ineffecency of goverments and the costs of only the healthcare system, I know the coasts in germany, its about 12% of your monthly income in addition to taxes etc. And thats a lot of money if you dont earn much in the first place.
And with a govermental health care system you would be forced to pay for it, no matter if you can afford it or not

I don't mean free university, I meant free community college.

I know what you mean, but I am talking a government run healthcare system that you pay what you can into to get insurance. Not like in Europe or Canada. So for example, if someone can afford to pay $100 a month for okay insurance, then they can still get government insurance instead of no healthcare at all. As I said before, free healthcare for everyone would not work because of all the obese niggers and hispanics and because niggers keep killing each other. I am talking basic government run healthcare, for those who can't afford private insurance.

 

[bcroger]

All forms of government suck, it's just capitalism sucks the least.

Yeah, but a NEET would be better off in Norway, Canada or Sweden than they would be in the USA because they would have free healthcare in those nations.

 

[Suicide Sheep]

Because they haven't studied finance enough yet. Seriously, the best way to get radicalized is to discover how rigged the system is.

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

Yeah, but a NEET would be better off in Norway, Canada or Sweden than they would be in the USA because they would have free healthcare in those nations.

That's true, but they're sort of a mix of certain socialist aspects while mainly being capitalist.

 

[ApocalypticKrieg666]

Communists believe in the power of capitalism. It is a necessary stepping stone to achieve communism.

Fair enough, I actually have heard something along those lines about how Marx thought nations needed to undergo capitalist industrialization before communism could take root

 

[AutistSupremacist]

I actually have heard something along those lines about how Marx thought nations needed to undergo capitalist industrialization before communism could take root

Historically most communists took power in preindustrialized states (USSR, China, Ghana, DPRK, Even Mussolini's Italy etc)
And so had to adopt some elements of market economy to develop productive forces to a good enough amount for Autarky. In cases where there is no industrialization, the project usually collapses in on itself or leads to discontent like in Tanzania.

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

I don't mean free university, I meant free community college.

Doesnt change the problem, simply take my whole point and replace university with college, the outcome is the same

I am talking a government run healthcare system that you pay what you can into to get insurance. Not like in Europe or Canada. So for example, if someone can afford to pay $100 a month for okay insurance, then they can still get government insurance instead of no healthcare at all.

This whole system wouldnt work if you would let the people to choose to pay for this, since everyone who can will instead get an regular insurance and in the and you only have low income people payin into this, which would end up meaning that this govermental insurance doesnt have enough money to pay for anyone, since you need some wealthy/ middle- class people who pay into this so that there actually is money for the treatment od poor people

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

Fair enough, I actually have heard something along those lines about how Marx thought nations needed to undergo capitalist industrialization before communism could take root

According to Marx's theory capitalism, naturally becomes communism, since according to Marx capitalism centralizes ever more capital in less and less hands, at some point there would be whole industries branches in a country controlled by only a single company and in the end result the whole economy would be centralized in one giant super company and this pretty much would be communism, all productive capacaties are centralized on a single point, everyone works for organization, which pays him and where he buys his goods from

 

[ardeys]

I support it in theory since under other systems I would be poorer in general since production would be lower and less organized (even if richer compared to others) but in practice I want to grow my own food and get out of any kind of industrial society