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Serious Why do so many incels torture themselves?

You can't get a different job? There aren't multiple gyms near your fucking house? If you're a locationcel I get it. But no fucking metropolitancel should be griping about shit when most shit is open 24 hours, and there are several options to avoid shit. If you're not a locationcel then you're a masochist that likes fucking torture. And for the record, what the fuck is there to watch on tv exactly? It's all fucking femoidist bullshit and gay propaganda. If you still watch regular tv you're fucking cucked.
No I can't dumbass. I spent a decade in college and working my apprenticeship to earn my license. Quitting to go work nightly in a warehouse is beyond moronic, even of I still could somehow afford to keep my house after doing something so stupid.

There are multiple gyms near my house. WTF makes you think each one serves a unique demographic/clientele? Are you this stupid? Do you think one of these gyms is going to ban families and hot women because they trigger incels? Or do you think community demographics radically change within a few miles? And even if I could stay up all night and still work, what gym is open 24 hours? Anytime fitness is the only one I can think of, and it's widely recognized as an inferior gym with a larger membership fee.

I don't watch much TV, I will grant you that, but I love movies, so I should just quit that too huh? What hobbies should I take up that don't remind me of the fact that I will never get to start a family? MMO gaming?

Lol can we please ban this idiot cuck already? Nobody here should be asked to completely reshape their lives because of inceldom, this is the worst troll I have seen in forever.
 
Even though we all deny it, deep inside we all love the pain..

True, I feel that most of us have become more comfortable with being miserable because we have been for so long.
 
What else can you do knowing the truth? Remain depressed because of it, obviously. Accepting is harder, you must not have any emotional impact at that point, only raw logical ways.

You haven't fully accepted the truth if it's still eliciting an emotional response. An emotional response comes from hope, want, and desire. Accepting the truth means that it's just there and you just accept it, like gravity. You know gravity exists. It limits you. It bounds you, but you don't spend all day thinking about gravity, it just is. In much the same way, accepting that you're ugly limits you. You know you only have certain options. Allowing grief to consume you is a pathway to suicide.
No I can't dumbass. I spent a decade in college and working my apprenticeship to earn my license. Quitting to go work nightly in a warehouse is beyond moronic, even of I still could somehow afford to keep my house after doing something so stupid.

Who said you had to work for a fucking warehouse? Now you're just being fucking dramatic. I don't know your personal situation. I don't know what the fuck you do, and I don't fucking care. Stop conflating your own life with everyone else's. Most people here aren't bound to an area or location because of an opportunity. In fact most incels admit that they're NEETS. How does being a NEET compare to a lawyercel or a doctorcel? It fucking doesn't. Stop being a baby and get the fuck outta my thread. If this thread doesn't apply to you then fucking leave dude. Stop trying to thought police people with different fucking opinions.

There are multiple gyms near my house. WTF makes you think each one serves a unique demographic/clientele? Are you this stupid? Do you think one of these gyms is going to ban families and hot women because they trigger incels? Or do you think community demographics radically change within a few miles? And even if I could stay up all night and still work, what gym is open 24 hours? Anytime fitness is the only one I can think of, and it's widely recognized as an inferior gym with a larger membership fee.

Yep, now I know you're full of shit. You're just making excuses to torture yourself. Keep it up though. It's your fucking life. Not mine.

I don't watch much TV, I will grant you that, but I love movies, so I should just quit that too huh? What hobbies should I take up that don't remind me of the fact that I will never get to start a family? MMO gaming?

I DON'T KNOW I'M NOT YOU. YOU FIGURE WHAT THE FUCK MAKES YOU HAPPY. YOU'RE A FUCKING ADULT.

Lol can we please ban this idiot cuck already? Nobody here should be asked to completely reshape their lives because of inceldom, this is the worst troll I have seen in forever.

Get outta my fucking thread and don't come back you. No one but you chose to come to this thread. Get your effeminate catty ass outta my thread.
 
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You know gravity exists. It limits you. It bounds you, but you don't spend all day thinking about gravity, it just is. In much the same way, accepting that you're ugly limits you.
I disagree. Have you ever seen a child being frustrated because he can't jump on earth like austronauts in the moon? He accepted the truth of gravity, yet still wants to jump like them, thus, your desires will always be there, and they always will trigger emotional responce. Not thinking about them is the only way of accepting the truth, according to you. So, it comes like your acceptance may be blurring, depending on your mental state. How is it?
 
I disagree. Have you ever seen a child being frustrated because he can't jump on earth like austronauts in the moon? He accepted the truth of gravity, yet still wants to jump like them, thus, your desires will always be there, and they always will trigger emotional responce. Not thinking about them is the only way of accepting the truth, according to you. So, it comes like your acceptance may be blurring, depending on your mental state. How is it?

Key words are in bold. That's all I will say.
 
You start this shitty thread telling us not to torture ourselves and completely rearrange our lives, then get pissy like a femoid during shark week when you are (rightfully) told how stupid you are. All while saying "I don't know figure it out yourself!!!" even though you were pretending to have all the answers just a few posts up.

I think you would do better on two x chromosomes than you are doing here. If you aren't a roastie LARPing you certainly have the mindset of one.

And for the record, quit assuming most of us are obese basement dwelling neets, because the majority of us aren't. Not everyone here is college educated, but the majority do at least have jobs good enough to provide for themselves. Quit projecting your failures on to the whole community.
You haven't fully accepted the truth if it's still eliciting an emotional response. An emotional response comes from hope, want, and desire. Accepting the truth means that it's just there and you just accept it, like gravity. You know gravity exists. It limits you. It bounds you, but you don't spend all day thinking about gravity, it just is. In much the same way, accepting that you're ugly limits you. You know you only have certain options. Allowing grief to consume you is a pathway to suicide.


Who said you had to work for a fucking warehouse? Now you're just being fucking dramatic. I don't know your personal situation. I don't know what the fuck you do, and I don't fucking care. Stop conflating your own life with everyone else's. Most people here aren't bound to an area or location because of an opportunity. In fact most incels admit that they're NEETS. How does being a NEET compare to a lawyercel or a doctorcel? It fucking doesn't. Stop being a baby and get the fuck outta my thread. If this thread doesn't apply to you then fucking leave dude. Stop trying to thought police people with different fucking opinions.



Yep, now I know you're full of shit. You're just making excuses to torture yourself. Keep it up though. It's your fucking life. Not mine.



I DON'T KNOW I'M NOT YOU. YOU FIGURE WHAT THE FUCK MAKES YOU HAPPY. YOU'RE A FUCKING ADULT.



Get outta my fucking thread and don't come back you. No one but you chose to come to this thread. Get your effeminate catty ass outta my thread.
 
if you can cultivate that mindset "who cares" and move on with your life, there is literally no reason to be here, everything is fine for you
Acceptance of a problem isn't the same thing as a reasonable solution to the problem. I just avoid other people.

I disagree. Have you ever seen a child being frustrated because he can't jump on earth like austronauts in the moon? He accepted the truth of gravity, yet still wants to jump like them, thus, your desires will always be there, and they always will trigger emotional responce. Not thinking about them is the only way of accepting the truth, according to you. So, it comes like your acceptance may be blurring, depending on your mental state. How is it?
I turned my anger into sadness, it's easier to manage. Being angry about things I can't change doesn't even make me feel better, just a different state of bad, and with less mental clarity.
 
You start this shitty thread telling us not to torture ourselves and completely rearrange our lives, then get pissy like a femoid during shark week when you are (rightfully) told how stupid you are. All while saying "I don't know figure it out yourself!!!" even though you were pretending to have all the answers just a few posts up.

I think you would do better on two x chromosomes than you are doing here. If you aren't a roastie LARPing you certainly have the mindset of one.

And for the record, quit assuming most of us are obese basement dwelling neets, because the majority of us aren't. Not everyone here is college educated, but the majority do at least have jobs good enough to provide for themselves. Quit projecting your failures on to the whole community.
Goodbye
 
I turned my anger into sadness, it's easier to manage. Being angry about things I can't change doesn't even make me feel better, just a different state of bad, and with less mental clarity.
I like to be angry, it feels motivated and helps a lot while gymcelling. Controling emotions and turning them into your advantages is the only way we can deal with being lonely and undesired. Next level cope.
 
You must be new.

This is like asking a starving person why they are angry about not having food.
This. I can't avoid wanting foids or seeing them on the street every single day.
 
How does an adult not accept real limitations? That's part of being an adult.
That wasn't the point. You can accept a limitation, but reminders of it will still trigger an emotional response.

Especially when it comes to something as important as a lack of romantic relationships and encounters. The only way to get away from it is to shut yourself off from the world.
 
I've always had a theory that it's because it's all that most of us know. Ever notice how you attribute different places or different times in your life with different feelings. It's not really an emotional feeling till you add that to it but that place or that time has a specific 'feel' to it. I remember when I was having other horrible as fuck times in life and hence that time/place and the feeling it had is also attributed to an emotional feeling. I used to absolutely hate said feelings of those times and places so much. But now i'm in different places at a different time in my life, the feelings have shifted and I almost crave the old shit feelings because i'm more familiar with the old shit feelings as opposed to the new shit feels + nostalgia.

I dunno if this will make any sense at all but to sum it up. In my case, I think I almost feed off it, it's so normal to me to feel completely fucking lost in life that it would be hard to just switch away from that, even if the chance ever came.

Yeah, a lot of guys here can't admit that they're addicted to pain. They're addicted to suffering. They really don't want to leave that shit behind. I'm not saying that you have to just accept your lot in life. Fuck paying taxes for whores and their half-nigglets. If I could take away their funding I'd be happy. That's really all I want. I hate that I gotta pay for bitches who don't give me shit.
 
The torture is sometimes unavoidable
 
That wasn't the point. You can accept a limitation, but reminders of it will still trigger an emotional response.

Again, have you really accepted something if it still greatly moves you?

Especially when it comes to something as important as a lack of romantic relationships and encounters. The only way to get away from it is to shut yourself off from the world.

The bolded is somewhat my point, even if it's not entirely realistic, you can significantly reduce your interactions with the world. You can have a few key people who you like to deal with in your life, and just avoid other people. Why do you think monks live far away from the population? To avoid temptation and want, the underlying causes of human suffering.
The torture is sometimes unavoidable
This is true, and in those times you have to meditate, pray, fast, and remove yourself from the world. If you have the option to take a sick day off from work, do it. I know not everyone has this option, but those who do, you will feel a world of difference by taking some time off.
 
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I Love Waste my time, Is I Dont stand her, Probably i will looking youtube, o anything shit, But here I Feel free, free of society, free of feminism Free of the world
 
And this was the point I'm trying to make. A lot of guys like feeling pain. They don't want to fix their lives. They like feeling miserable.
Oh for fucks sake shut the fuck up. This is another false assumption about incels, we do try to fix or improve our lives. No one is born as miserable incel, almost everyone at one point in their life tries to improve themselves, that's human! Usually incels try for a good while before they see no results and give up
 
Oh for fucks sake shut the fuck up. This is another false assumption about incels, we do try to fix or improve our lives. No one is born as miserable incel, almost everyone at one point in their life tries to improve themselves, that's human! Usually incels try for a good while before they see no results and give up
This has to be a fmoid larper. It keeps repeating the same arguments either ignoring counterarguments or reeing about being proven wrong, before repeating the same arguments to someone else.
 
one day all my suffering will be experienced by stacies and chads
 
This has to be a fmoid larper. It keeps repeating the same arguments either ignoring counterarguments or reeing about being proven wrong, before repeating the same arguments to someone else.
Notice how I haven't replied to your last four fucking messages and your still in my threads? Dude this is your problem. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Stop showing up where you aren't wanted. You like pain dude.
Oh for fucks sake shut the fuck up. This is another false assumption about incels, we do try to fix or improve our lives. No one is born as miserable incel, almost everyone at one point in their life tries to improve themselves, that's human! Usually incels try for a good while before they see no results and give up
Dude I'm saying once you accept your subhumanity, why not reduce contact with the white you hate? Why keep putting yourself in the meat grinder?
one day all my suffering will be experienced by stacies and chads
They may, until that day, reduce your contact with them.
 
I like to be angry, it feels motivated and helps a lot while gymcelling. Controling emotions and turning them into your advantages is the only way we can deal with being lonely and undesired. Next level cope.
I rather be angry than depressed, if I'm not angry then I'll be depressed I don't have a gf. Ignoring your problems doesn't make them go away.
 
can we please ban this idiot cuck already? Nobody here should be asked to completely reshape their lives because of inceldom, this is the worst troll I have seen in forever.
 
Not even close. I'm asking a person with a full pantry why they continue to buy Oreo cookies if they fucking hate them? Why not just not buy them?
I think it’s more like feeling you don’t have a choice to not buy them or not.
 
You can't stop feminism, nor will it be stopped. It's too entrenched in the Halls of power. However, you can regulate your life to make sure as few whores exist in it as possible. We still have the right to freedom of association, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.


Why bother yourself with things that just make you miserable and that you have no control over?
How can you be happy when you are denied even the most basic things in life?
 
Very nice post OP :feelsokman:
Please, keep writing and ignore the pussies

As a NEET on the verge of suicide, I have some questions

1- How do you deal with extreme social isolation? Look at my name. From my perspective, isolation is the worst. Do you simply have male friends? How did you met them in that situation?

2- I can actually suscribe this:
Very low self esteem makes me subconsciously want to experience the shame in a fucked up way.
Not only shame, but pain and death obviously. I smoke, and probably the best part iw subconciously knowing that im closer to my death, for example. I tried meditation for a long time, and some therapy, with no result btw. How is it that you love yourself so much?

3- You seem like a robot with no T/libido at all, and you aknowledge this in your name and avatar. Do you think that anyone can become neo-stoic (or neo-spinozian lol) like you when suffering from high T?

4- Are/were you a buddhist? The only people ive known in my life with your mindset were buddhists. But they were bluepilled as fuck, unlike you. So im confused.

5- Was it hard to get a job with no social interactions? Are you an informatic engineer or something like that? Ill suppose so. Im very bad at math, so i tried to lear programming and failed. The problem is that i really cant find any job i can do from home besides that one. Not a real one, i mean. Crypto, ewhoring, writing.... are not serious. Also, i studied one of those useless things that only can make money if teached to a lot of teens. I know i cant do this job, but i keep trying to get it.

I like what you propose. I mean, i think most hikikomoris/NEETs here , like me, understand you. The world makes me suffer, so i interact as less as possible with the world to avoid as much suffering as possible. So the idea of getting a night job with zero social interactions, while going outside when theres almost nobody, having lonely hobbies.... seems acceptable as the less painful adult life as an incel.
I can imagine how paceful it can be. Maybe its the emotional rollercoaster that i live in, but i CRAVE for some peace and calm lately.
 
It's cope. Torturing yourself beautifies the struggle. Instead of just a loser you become a martyr.
 
You can't stop feminism, nor will it be stopped. It's too entrenched in the Halls of power. However, you can regulate your life to make sure as few whores exist in it as possible. We still have the right to freedom of association, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.


Why bother yourself with things that just make you miserable and that you have no control over?
Of course nothing will change if we take that advice, and let feminism win. But the more we organize and drop knowledge, the worse the femshits and hypergamous femoids will have it. I know when we get enough blackpilled high t incels/volcels it will cause serious change.
 
I know that life sucks and it's difficult. I'm not making this thread to minimize anyone's experience, but why do you guys keep torturing yourself? I see constant threads about being angry about seeing stuff. I keep thinking to myself, why does this person keep doing shit they hate? I guess can't relate because most of my life I spent organizing it to avoid the shit I hate.
We don’t know anything else. You can’t validate yourself if you don’t even know what that feels like.
 
I like to be angry, it feels motivated and helps a lot while gymcelling. Controling emotions and turning them into your advantages is the only way we can deal with being lonely and undesired. Next level cope.
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There is nothing wrong with being angry. Despite what cucks and society will tell you, it is an emotion no worse than any other. Arguably the most powerful emotion in terms of the change it can elicit.
 
Very nice post OP :feelsokman:
Please, keep writing and ignore the pussies

As a NEET on the verge of suicide, I have some questions

1- How do you deal with extreme social isolation? Look at my name. From my perspective, isolation is the worst. Do you simply have male friends? How did you met them in that situation?

2- I can actually suscribe this:

Not only shame, but pain and death obviously. I smoke, and probably the best part iw subconciously knowing that im closer to my death, for example. I tried meditation for a long time, and some therapy, with no result btw. How is it that you love yourself so much?

3- You seem like a robot with no T/libido at all, and you aknowledge this in your name and avatar. Do you think that anyone can become neo-stoic (or neo-spinozian lol) like you when suffering from high T?

4- Are/were you a buddhist? The only people ive known in my life with your mindset were buddhists. But they were bluepilled as fuck, unlike you. So im confused.

5- Was it hard to get a job with no social interactions? Are you an informatic engineer or something like that? Ill suppose so. Im very bad at math, so i tried to lear programming and failed. The problem is that i really cant find any job i can do from home besides that one. Not a real one, i mean. Crypto, ewhoring, writing.... are not serious. Also, i studied one of those useless things that only can make money if teached to a lot of teens. I know i cant do this job, but i keep trying to get it.

I like what you propose. I mean, i think most hikikomoris/NEETs here , like me, understand you. The world makes me suffer, so i interact as less as possible with the world to avoid as much suffering as possible. So the idea of getting a night job with zero social interactions, while going outside when theres almost nobody, having lonely hobbies.... seems acceptable as the less painful adult life as an incel.
I can imagine how paceful it can be. Maybe its the emotional rollercoaster that i live in, but i CRAVE for some peace and calm lately.

meditation only works for normies, to turn good feelings into great. if you feel like shit meditation doesnt work at all. Instead id recommend shadowwork =

in your situation. Its targeted to increase average emotion slowly over time, mine have gone up by like 20% which is still trash but its tangible increase. unlike meditation which i did like 200 hours of and it was worthless
 
Notice how I haven't replied to your last four fucking messages and your still in my threads? Dude this is your problem. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Stop showing up where you aren't wanted. You like pain dude.

Dude I'm saying once you accept your subhumanity, why not reduce contact with the white you hate? Why keep putting yourself in the meat grinder?

They may, until that day, reduce your contact with them.
So stop showing up on Earth? Suicide? This is your great advice?

I think we all could have thought of that ourselves
 
I think venting out can be quite cathartic. Once one has taken the blackpill one becomes overwhelmed in despair. After acute physical pain, breathlessness and extreme thirst/hunger the next worst thing is total despair. Humans aren't really able to deal with this emotion.
 
Eventually I learned that it isn't useful. Raging at the world, my memories, and other people to change is not only useless, it's counterproductive and damaging to the individual that harbors the anger.

Tell that to the Jews.
 
torture your enemies, not yourself
 
Lots of ppl are "venting" their feelings here in order to clear their mind a little bit and survive few more days and not go completely crazy. Also we are not torturing self here, society does good job on that everywhere we go.
 
Because it's fun I guess. Taking the Blackpill is easier though. Good thing I already had it ready to swallow before I joined here.
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OP is nuanced in the art of coping


Listening to this song with that animation is LifeFuel.
 
Oh for fucks sake shut the fuck up. This is another false assumption about incels, we do try to fix or improve our lives. No one is born as miserable incel, almost everyone at one point in their life tries to improve themselves, that's human! Usually incels try for a good while before they see no results and give up
You choose what you preoccupy yourself. What I'm saying to youngcels might sound like bluepill bullshit, but oldcels know that it's true. You don't have to live anywhere, work anywhere, or do anything that you don't want to. In the long run you control your fucking life. That's the truth.
How can you be happy when you are denied even the most basic things in life?
Your suffering comes from one particular area. The desire for a legacy. Legacy is a diluted version of immortality. Get a career in something that will actually help you transcend or become immortal.

It's cope. Torturing yourself beautifies the struggle. Instead of just a loser you become a martyr.
This ^^

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OP is nuanced in the art of coping
It's not a cope. It's indifference.

I think venting out can be quite cathartic. Once one has taken the blackpill one becomes overwhelmed in despair. After acute physical pain, breathlessness and extreme thirst/hunger the next worst thing is total despair. Humans aren't really able to deal with this emotion.
Lots of ppl are "venting" their feelings here in order to clear their mind a little bit and survive few more days and not go completely crazy. Also we are not torturing self here, society does good job on that everywhere we go.

I'm not knocking the venting aspect. I'm just saying, I see the same sorts of posts over and over from the same people who put themselves in the same situations. I can see hey I got into a bad snag after a few good months. That shit is incredibly normal. Hell, I even understand high schoolers and college students venting because some shit is out of their control, but grown men? I just find it odd. No one can force you to do shit. You literally control every fucking aspect of your life. Anything you don't want to deal with is 6-12 months away from being fixed. Barring not having sex with foids of course.
 
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You literally control every fucking aspect of your life.

I really hope this will be true for me ASAP.
Ive never felt in control of my life tbh. I guess its absurd before getting a job anyway.
 
Very nice post OP :feelsokman:
Please, keep writing and ignore the pussies

As a NEET on the verge of suicide, I have some questions

1- How do you deal with extreme social isolation? Look at my name. From my perspective, isolation is the worst. Do you simply have male friends? How did you met them in that situation?

I personally enjoy being alone. This social strategy is more for people who like being alone and don't like being bothered by other people. If you enjoy the company of other people, then you might want to take a different approach.

That being said, if you want to meet other men to be around as a grown adult then the only way to do that is through work. The only reason men form relationships in adulthood is to get things done. Anyone telling you otherwise is being dishonest. Most men aren't going to trust random people off the street and for good reason. People are dangerous. Work provides a safe enough environment to interact with people you don't know. Work friendships are great, but most of them end. If you want to make friends then you and that person have to stay at the same job for years. Unfortunately, this is becoming increasingly unlikely due to nature of modern employment.

2- I can actually suscribe this:

Not only shame, but pain and death obviously. I smoke, and probably the best part iw subconciously knowing that im closer to my death, for example. I tried meditation for a long time, and some therapy, with no result btw. How is it that you love yourself so much?

I don't love myself. I'm just brutally honest with myself and I only spend time worrying about shit that I can change. This makes life MUCH easier. What I'm saying in the OP is not a panacea (medicine) for all your problems. It's a humbling realization that if you have a limit you can't fix, avoid it. For example, if you're 5', 0" and you hate getting dunked on at the basketball court, don't show up to the basketball court. Don't do shit that makes you feel suicidal and question life. Take it easy and find other hobbies.


3- You seem like a robot with no T/libido at all, and you aknowledge this in your name and avatar. Do you think that anyone can become neo-stoic (or neo-spinozian lol) like you when suffering from high T?

Definitely not low-T, but indifference comes with age and experience. For me, a few very tragic life events made me prioritize what was important in my life. When I almost went to jail because of a foid, foids became that much less important. I know most guys don't have extreme experiences like this, but eventually something will challenge you in your life to where you have to decide what's important and what's not.

4- Are/were you a buddhist? The only people ive known in my life with your mindset were buddhists. But they were bluepilled as fuck, unlike you. So im confused.

No, there's some good shit in buddhism but like you said, too much bluepill. Buddhism unfortunately existed before science and human observation could shape some of it's core beliefs. In my opinion apathy and stoicism should be the goal of all men. Men should be totally governed by logic. We are emotional beings, but most of the time, emotion does more damage than good.

5- Was it hard to get a job with no social interactions? Are you an informatic engineer or something like that? Ill suppose so. Im very bad at math, so i tried to lear programming and failed. The problem is that i really cant find any job i can do from home besides that one. Not a real one, i mean. Crypto, ewhoring, writing.... are not serious. Also, i studied one of those useless things that only can make money if teached to a lot of teens. I know i cant do this job, but i keep trying to get it.

Yeah, it took years to break through. I won't go into the specifics of my career, but yes, I am a STEMcel. My recommendation is to try to learn the tough shit one course at a time. Never stack hard shit on top of hard shit. Take one course if you have to. Eventually it will become normal to you. There isn't much you can do from home other than STEM related stuff, or customer service. If you're not good at either, then perhaps you should consider going into a male dominated field where there are very few foids. This would help you with number one as well.

I like what you propose. I mean, i think most hikikomoris/NEETs here , like me, understand you. The world makes me suffer, so i interact as less as possible with the world to avoid as much suffering as possible. So the idea of getting a night job with zero social interactions, while going outside when theres almost nobody, having lonely hobbies.... seems acceptable as the less painful adult life as an incel.
I can imagine how paceful it can be. Maybe its the emotional rollercoaster that i live in, but i CRAVE for some peace and calm lately.

Honestly, once you get used to the hang of things, you won't want to even go back to what you were doing. You won't want to go back to working with other people or doing the day. You won't want to interact with foids. Foids will even be shocked that when you do interact with them, you do so with apathy. Honestly, this would be the best thing for the mental health of most cels. A lot of people are resistant to this fact, but sooner or later they will realize that it's true.
 
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I personally enjoy being alone. This social strategy is more for people who like being alone and don't like being bothered by other people. If you enjoy the company of other people, then you might want to take a different approach.

That being said, if you want to meet other men to be around as a grown adult then the only way to do that is through work. The only reason men form relationships in adulthood is to get things done. Anyone telling you otherwise is being dishonest. Most men aren't going to trust random people off the street and for good reason. People are dangerous. Work provides a safe enough environment to interact with people you don't know. Work friendships are great, but most of them end. If you want to make friends then you and that person have to stay at the same job for years. Unfortunately, this is becoming increasingly unlikely due to nature of modern employment.



I don't love myself. I'm just brutally honest with myself and I only spend time worrying about shit that I can change. This makes life MUCH easier. What I'm saying in the OP is not a panacea (medicine) for all your problems. It's a humbling realization that if you have a limit you can't fix, avoid it. For example, if you're 5', 0" and you hate getting dunked on at the basketball court, don't show up to the basketball court. Don't do shit that makes you feel suicidal and question life. Take it easy and find other hobbies.




Definitely not low-T, but indifference comes with age and experience. For me, a few very tragic life events made me prioritize what was important in my life. When I almost went to jail because of a foid, foids became that much less important. I know most guys don't have extreme experiences like this, but eventually something will challenge you in your life to where you have to decide what's important and what's not.



No, there's some good shit in buddhism but like you said, too much bluepill. Buddhism unfortunately existed before science and human observation could shape some of it's core beliefs. In my opinion apathy and stoicism should be the goal of all men. Men should be totally governed by logic. We are emotional beings, but most of the time, emotion does more damage than good.



Yeah, it took years to break through. I won't go into the specifics of my career, but yes, I am a STEMcel. My recommendation is to try to learn the tough shit one course at a time. Never stack hard shit on top of hard shit. Take one course if you have to. Eventually it will become normal to you. There isn't much you can do from home other than STEM related stuff, or customer service. If you're not good at either, then perhaps you should consider going into a male dominated field where there are very few foids. This would help you with number one as well.



Honestly, once you get used to the hang of things, you won't want to even go back to what you were doing. You won't want to go back to working with other people or doing the day. You won't want to interact with foids. Foids will even be shocked that when you do interact with them, you do so with apathy. Honestly, this would be the best thing for the mental health of most cels. A lot of people are resistant to this fact, but sooner or later they will realize that it's true.

Thanks for taking the time to answer. I apreciate it.
I just wish I had chosen to study computer science instead of philosophy. I didnt know at 18 that i would have to become a pseudomonk.

One day you should tell us about that foid that almost land you in jail btw.
 
You literally control every fucking aspect of your life.
Not in the cucked west as a sub6 with feminism, the laws, and cucks ready to cockblock you everywhere you go. Obviously complaining about these things are important, or we'll be in the same situation forever. If you don't like the complaining then you don't have to read, I love complaining and blackpilled complainers.
 
Not in the cucked west as a sub6 with feminism, the laws, and cucks ready to cockblock you everywhere you go. Obviously complaining about these things are important, or we'll be in the same situation forever. If you don't like the complaining then you don't have to read, I love complaining and blackpilled complainers.
You're entitled to do what you want. It's not about the complaining. Guys are contemplating suicide. At that point they may want to consider a different course of action.
 

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