Serious Why Anti-miscegenation laws and closed borders are important pertaining to Incels (specifically white Incels)

[Tenshi]

That’s crazy el dorado shit, which is not United States natives. The “lost cities of gold” is all entirely south and Central American.

you're just not aware of it because it's not of your interest, it's better to just stick with the image you already have and don't want to change, easier to cope.

Pre-Columbian era - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This shit is in colorado, dude I'm not even american and I'm mogging you rn.

the moral legitimacy is building the biggest nation economically on a land that had close to nobody in it. Most of native America wasn’t inhabited and the natives usually attacked the colonists first only to get BTFO.

That's not true at all, in fact the whole continent had a huge population especially considering the technological level of most cultures.

While it is difficult to determine exactly how many Natives lived in North America before Columbus, estimates range from a low of 2.1 million to 7 million people to a high of 18 million.

But again, that's not even the point, that's totally subjective moral here. Is it killing people justifiable for the sake of a supposed civilizational progress? If you are the one being killed probably not. Also funny how you completely ignored me pointing out how you criticize primitive societies for their, well, primitive behavior while when it's white's doing it you find it alright.

And jfl how the fuck would they know they'd ever build the "biggest nation" when they were coming to america? They were british settlers mostly, it didn't even cross their minds that at some point in the future their grandsons would be fighting against british rule, that doesn't make sense at all.

As for the natives attacking them first you don't really have real evidence of it, in fact it really depends, many tribes allied with settlers, others fought them. The thing is that the whole british colonization of america took place almost a century after the first encounter between spanish settlers and natives in north america, which in case you don't know (you probably don't) was probably of one the most brutal genocides the world ever saw.

I'm talking about spaniards indian throwing kids at dogs as food. You can just read the writings of bartolomé (a spanish monk sent to the new world) to see how it was. So yeah, definitely the whole image of the white foreigners wasn't the most pleasant to the natives.

They were property who were used as economic machines. Should we give Indian and Chinese kids asylum now for making american clothes? Picking cotton is not running governing and creating a nation

But they weren't machines. They were people, and they did contribute for the formation of the country. tf is wrong with you dude?

That analogy also doesn't make sense. Were the indian and chinese kids taken as slaves, brought to america and forced to work as machines, like you said, for generations?

Theres no nation and government without an economic foundation bro, that's basic stuff. You need production to occur in order to create wealth, from wealth we take taxes and taxes pay the whole leviathan which is the State. It's a symbiotic relationship.

Well you realize how slaves were captured right? Europeans didn’t go over and throw nets on them...African slaves were sold by other African tribes. They were in captivity before Europeans got there, and if they weren’t sold the African tribe who took the captive would crush him with a rock. Europeans didn’t capture Free Africans as slaves.

Not entirely true first because while there was slavery happening in africa already, it can't be even compared to the extend where things reached with the slave trade. It's simple supply and demand law. About 10 million africans were sent to the americas (the continent), let alone the ones who died before landing, are you fucking kidding me? All these people were already slaves in africa? LOL

There's no slave trade when there's no one to buy them. Also slavery in most subsaharian african tribes was nothing like slavery in the americas. It was probably more like serfdom in medieval europe:

Upon slavery Mr Robins remarked that it was not what people in England thought it to be. It means, as continually found in this part of Africa, belonging to a family group-there is no compulsory labour, the owner and the slave work together, eat like food, wear like clothing and sleep in the same huts. Some slaves have more wives than their masters. It gives protection to the slaves and everything necessary for their subsistence - food and clothing. A free man is worse off than a slave; he cannot claim his food from anyone.

Of course the demand for slaves and the atlantic trading completely changed this scenario. And I still fail to see what you want to tell me pointing this out? So because other african tribes sold slaves to white people, is it justifiable by any means? That's like saying the british were right when cutting off american settlers' rights like they did just because they're both white.

Who could vote and do anything until 1868? that’s how you know it’s a white country. Only whites could participate in it until very very recently and that’s for a reason.

That's how you know it was a racist, segregatory country. If it was a "white country" there would be no ethnics to begin with.

A lot of negros actually were the opposite. There’s black confederates and blacks who supported slavery and even blacks who were enslaved who didn’t want to leave their masters. Solomon Northup made note of Good Master William Ford. Olaudah Equiano made note of Good Masters as well, as other Slave narratives note their were good Slave Masters.

Yeah bro, it's not a dichotomy. Some black people are bad, some are good. The same with white people. Quakers were white and against slavery way before it was cool, so what? You're the one who don't seem to grasp that individuality.

If they contributed to the formation sure, but they didn’t. They didn’t do shit. What matters is who formed and ruled the nation, who the high command of the United States were. Whites.

no comment.

Cope nigger, Texas was 100% prideful. It was a revolution in which (For the 500th time) Whites were the numerically inferior yet won. Plus, the Mexicans were taking peoples shit and being goblinos.

It was literally a few people, no more than 2,000 dudes. There's more users registered here than "prideful" texans, just stop coping and accept reality. It wasn't a folks' movement or some epic fight for freedom, it was just a bunch of buckaroos, probably most of them were mercenaries paid by the rich farmers jfl

And yet even if that was the case (which still wouldn't mean shit), you're not connected to them at all, not even remotely. You're just another immigrant who happens to be white taking pride in things neither you nor your ancestors did.

I’m incel now but wouldn’t be 100 years ago. That’s how I know it’s an unfair system. Neither would you be or anyone on here.

Let's just suppose you're not coping and inceldom wasn't a reality for many people since the birth of humanity. So that's how it is? If you're not being opressed by it then there's no problem living under an unfair system?

No wonder you don't like ethnics, you can't sympathize with people at all.

 

[BummerDrummer]

you're just not aware of it because it's not of your interest, it's better to just stick with the image you already have and don't want to change, easier to cope.

Pre-Columbian era - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This shit is in colorado, dude I'm not even american and I'm mogging you rn.

Nigger really just linked Pueblo’s (buildings made of mud) to say that natives didn’t built mud huts. LMAO. What great civilization, abunch of buildings with not even a 2nd floor and made of mud.

That's not true at all, in fact the whole continent had a huge population especially considering the technological level of most cultures.

No it didn’t. The native Americans had what, 20 million people in ALL of North America? That’s >1 person per square mile. Hell, that’s less than one person per hundred million acres of land (North America is 6,051,601,450 acres). You prove my point yet again just like how you proved my point by posting literal mud huts as proof of “native technology”

But again, that's not even the point, that's totally subjective moral here. Is it killing people justifiable for the sake of a supposed civilizational progress? If you are the one being killed probably not. Also funny how you completely ignored me pointing out how you criticize primitive societies for their, well, primitive behavior while when it's white's doing it you find it alright.

If your entire civilization and it’s legacy consists of shitting out in the woods and being in the Stone Age, then yes it is justified to take you over when the people in question have technology literally tens of thousands of years into the future. plus, like I said again it was usually the natives who attacked first (see the Indian massacre of 1622)

As for the natives attacking them first you don't really have real evidence of it, in fact it really depends, many tribes allied with settlers, others fought them. The thing is that the whole british colonization of america took place almost a century after the first encounter between spanish settlers and natives in north america, which in case you don't know (you probably don't) was probably of one the most brutal genocides the world ever saw.
I'm talking about spaniards indian throwing kids at dogs as food. You can just read the writings of bartolomé (a spanish monk sent to the new world) to see how it was. So yeah, definitely the whole image of the white foreigners wasn't the most pleasant to the natives.

I’m not a med, so that’s not my problem. But I will say that the Spanish had a lot of help from other natives. You realize that the Spanish only had like 100 troops total right? Why don’t you want natives to take contribution? I guess contribution is only good when it’s blacks picking cotton and not natives helping the Spanish destroy tenotichlan.

But they weren't machines. They were people, and they did contribute for the formation of the country. tf is wrong with you dude?

They were property. They didn’t contribute anything besides manual labor. Even then, their contributions as labor is insignificant.

Theres no nation and government without an economic foundation bro, that's basic stuff. You need production to occur in order to create wealth, from wealth we take taxes and taxes pay the whole leviathan which is the State. It's a symbiotic relationship.

If negroes didn’t come from Africa here America wouldn’t be much different in governance. They just did basic basic labor work. That’s it.

Not entirely true first because while there was slavery happening in africa already, it can't be even compared to the extend where things reached with the slave trade. It's simple supply and demand law. About 10 million africans were sent to the americas (the continent), let alone the ones who died before landing, are you fucking kidding me? All these people were already slaves in africa? LOL

There's no slave trade when there's no one to buy them. Also slavery in most subsaharian african tribes was nothing like slavery in the americas. It was probably more like serfdom in medieval europe:



Of course the demand for slaves and the atlantic trading completely changed this scenario. And I still fail to see what you want to tell me pointing this out? So because other african tribes sold slaves to white people, is it justifiable by any means? That's like saying the british were right when cutting off american settlers' rights like they did just because they're both white.

Oh come on. The Arabs were buying random nogs from Africa for centuries before Europeans did. Africans sold Africans to Europeans it is what it is. It’s not Europeans fault Africans wanted to sell slaves to us, and like I said the debt has been repaid. Nigger slaves descendants are now all with iPhones and are not living in the Stone Age anymore

That's how you know it was a racist, segregatory country. If it was a "white country" there would be no ethnics to begin with.

and that’s why I support them going back to Africa.

Yeah bro, it's not a dichotomy. Some black people are bad, some are good. The same with white people. Quakers were white and against slavery way before it was cool, so what? You're the one who don't seem to grasp that individuality.

And none of them can fit into a country that was made by the white man for the white man. If they can fit in, then America has changed its foundations which isn’t a good thing.

It was literally a few people, no more than 2,000 dudes. There's more users registered here than "prideful" texans, just stop coping and accept reality. It wasn't a folks' movement or some epic fight for freedom, it was just a bunch of buckaroos, probably most of them were mercenaries paid by the rich farmers jfl

Yeah it was a few people who BTFO’d racemixxed Mexican hordes. That’s based. Texas #1 btfo mexicans we’ll btfo them again

Let's just suppose you're not coping and inceldom wasn't a reality for many people since the birth of humanity. So that's how it is? If you're not being opressed by it then there's no problem living under an unfair system?

It wasn’t a reality for many people. Only for the retarded and legit disfigured. we’re under a govt that makes inceldom semi mainstream..

 

[IncelCream]

False, AOC got with a white male, this wouldnt of happened if she was a white female

 

[Tenshi]

Nigger really just linked Pueblo’s (buildings made of mud) to say that natives didn’t built mud huts. LMAO. What great civilization, abunch of buildings with not even a 2nd floor and made of mud.

it's a ruin bro, you don't know what you're talking, that's not how you tell how advanced a civilization is. You're just showing your ignorance here.

these "muds" above were once the capitol of one the biggest empires in the ancient world.

this one was the first city in the world as far as we know today.

But again why do you keep avoiding my questions. How does the technological advancement of a certain group of people justify their anihilation?

No it didn’t. The native Americans had what, 20 million people in ALL of North America? That’s >1 person per square mile. Hell, that’s less than one person per hundred million acres of land (North America is 6,051,601,450 acres). You prove my point yet again just like how you proved my point by posting literal mud huts as proof of “native technology”

Do you think that's few? The world population at the time was about 460 mil according to what I saw on the internet. 20 mil it's like 4% of the world's population. That's exactly the percentage shared by the US, today, of the world's population.

Yet,these people for the most part didn't have much of the technological means to support such a huge population, which is impressive.

If your entire civilization and it’s legacy consists of shitting out in the woods and being in the Stone Age, then yes it is justified to take you over when the people in question have technology literally tens of thousands of years into the future. plus, like I said again it was usually the natives who attacked first (see the Indian massacre of 1622)

just lol dude, from your perspective it may be (although I think that's fucking sick) but what do the natives get from all of these? No point in having better technology if you're dead. Also like I said, the colonization of british america was done decades after the spanish and other europeans countries brought terror to the americas, it's just not logical to expect the most peaceful of the encounters, especially when shit like this happens (indian massacre):

At first, the natives were glad to trade provisions to the colonists for metal tools, but by 1609 the English governor, John Smith, had begun to send raiding parties to demand food. This earned the colonists a bad reputation among the Native Americans and precipitated conflict.[3] The English colonists isolated the Native Americans, burned down houses, and stole their food supplies.[4] The English violence alienated the natives further and they laid siege to the Jamestown fort for several months. Unable to secure more food supplies, many colonists died during the "Starving Time" in 1609–10

Dude I literally only needed to look that shit up and it contradicts everything you said, your not even trying. That's not only stupid but you also keeps ignoring my points.

Oh come on. The Arabs were buying random nogs from Africa for centuries before Europeans did. Africans sold Africans to Europeans it is what it is. It’s not Europeans fault Africans wanted to sell slaves to us, and like I said the debt has been repaid. Nigger slaves descendants are now all with iPhones and are not living in the Stone Age anymore

That's why a emphasized subsaharian africa. I mean the arabs couldn't even reach that much of africa like the europeans did simply because there's a fucking desert preventing you from reaching it, let alone create such a huge slave trading system. Their slavery was limited to the environment and also the economics laws. Yet you can just look it up, that was nothing like the atlantic slave trade before in the history, just stop being low IQ dude. "It's not my fault for buying slaves, it's your fault for selling them" wtf

And yeah, arabs did, whites did, blacks did. What's your point? You're the one justifying it, not me.

and that’s why I support them going back to Africa.

You should go back to Europe then. It blows my mind how can you lack so much self awareness to not see this implication.

And none of them can fit into a country that was made by the white man for the white man. If they can fit in, then America has changed its foundations which isn’t a good thing.

You still didn't show me where's written this is a white-only country, and judging by what I've shown you this is really far from the truth. How come they're not fit in a country they not only were born in but also their ancestors were part of it for centuries?

It wasn’t a reality for many people. Only for the retarded and legit disfigured. we’re under a govt that makes inceldom semi mainstream..

yeah man whatever, I'm out

 

[Clayface]

You will always be an incel

 

[tanfeo]

nigga us ethnic gon steal ur white wimminz

You can have them. They are filthy whores anyway.
I'll see your offspring doing time for dealing crack or petty crime.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Cope. Not another "wwaaaaaah the ethnics are stealing our wimminz" post, JFL at actually believing that shit when white femoids are the most "racially loyal" group of foids.

That's after they've had a train ran on them by ever color from every race. I've even seen screenshots of white women admitting they slept with fucking Indians "just to see what it was like". They taste every shade of cock, then go get married to a white man.

If that's your definition of racial loyalty, then fucking lol

mayocels are killing their own race by race mixing the most tbh

JFL this. How many white fags do you see on /pol/ talking about their asian gook wife? Funny thing is they will then seethe when I point out them mixing with Arabs would be a better alternative to them IF they are gonna racemix, since Arabs are very close to Europeans genetically

it's a ruin bro, you don't know what you're talking, that's not how you tell how advanced a civilization is. You're just showing your ignorance here.

these "muds" above were once the capitol of one the biggest empires in the ancient world.

this one was the first city in the world as far as we know today.

But again why do you keep avoiding my questions. How does the technological advancement of a certain group of people justify their anihilation?


Do you think that's few? The world population at the time was about 460 mil according to what I saw on the internet. 20 mil it's like 4% of the world's population. That's exactly the percentage shared by the US, today, of the world's population.

Yet,these people for the most part didn't have much of the technological means to support such a huge population, which is impressive.


just lol dude, from your perspective it may be (although I think that's fucking sick) but what do the natives get from all of these? No point in having better technology if you're dead. Also like I said, the colonization of british america was done decades after the spanish and other europeans countries brought terror to the americas, it's just not logical to expect the most peaceful of the encounters, especially when shit like this happens (indian massacre):



Dude I literally only needed to look that shit up and it contradicts everything you said, your not even trying. That's not only stupid but you also keeps ignoring my points.


That's why a emphasized subsaharian africa. I mean the arabs couldn't even reach that much of africa like the europeans did simply because there's a fucking desert preventing you from reaching it, let alone create such a huge slave trading system. Their slavery was limited to the environment and also the economics laws. Yet you can just look it up, that was nothing like the atlantic slave trade before in the history, just stop being low IQ dude. "It's not my fault for buying slaves, it's your fault for selling them" wtf

And yeah, arabs did, whites did, blacks did. What's your point? You're the one justifying it, not me.


You should go back to Europe then. It blows my mind how can you lack so much self awareness to not see this implication.


You still didn't show me where's written this is a white-only country, and judging by what I've shown you this is really far from the truth. How come they're not fit in a country they not only were born in but also their ancestors were part of it for centuries?


yeah man whatever, I'm out

There's nothing more embarassing than a incel nationalist JFL ignore this clown

 

[To koniec]

Based law ngl.

I have been against racemixing for many years now - we can also see the terrible results.

Mixed race people grow up incredibly confused and feel like they can't relate to anyone. HAPA's in particular - which is a major growth industry because Asian women are really the only viable long term partners for most white men these days. Just look at what being mixed race did to St Elliot. White guys might think they're being clever getting with Asian women but honestly its just going to crate serious demographic dislocations in many 3rd world countries and probably cause wars or violence.

Just look at this forum - how many bitter ethnics are on here who pine after white bitches who hate them? Not only that but their own women are all out chasing white chads and becoming whores and probably ending up with his half breed bastard spawn.

Likewise mass immigration is a disaster - you have 3rd world countries in Africa and middle eastern countries shipping large numbers of men to Western Europe - partly because they have terrible moribund economies. Partly you have the pull of lavish welfare benefits and many Muslim countries practice polygamy which means women are not available to the vast majority of men so these countries leaders are basically trying to fob the problem off on us. This causes severe dislocations on our economy driving up costs like housing and suppressing wages.

 

[To koniec]

nigga us ethnic gon steal ur white wimminz

please it would better for ethnics, if white chads would only date white wimminz
you aren't even getting witte wimminz so you won't lose

so they were theorically living in the stone ages and that's why they should be killed? JFL

well first of all this is bs, not all natives were in the same technological advancement, as we also have evidence of advanced civilizations within the modern american territory, but yet this is by no means a fact that would give any legitimacy for them to be stoled and massacred by a more advanced civilizations.

"America was founded by white males" who do you mean? The founding fathers? Because we're sure that not only white people were living within this land by that time and definitely not only white people contribuited for the formation of this nation.

The slave trade and slavery in general wasn't really paid and never will, because it's long gone. The ones who have been afflicted by it are dead, and how does the fact that their descendents, whose ancestors didn't even ask to be brought to this land to work as slaves, have a better life now justify what was done to them?

But either way that's not even the point, america was not built only by whites and that's a fact. You're literally suggesting that non whites get out of the country they were born in, whom the group they make part not only were responsible for the constitution of this country but still do to this day.

If anything, by your retarded logic, a black person, or a native american has way more right to talk about who should or shouldn't be in america, not someone who has barely any connections to the land and it's history like you.

As for mexicans, then again does that justify anything that was made? They were invited to colonize their land, as long as they followed their rules. It's not even like they were citizens being oppressed, they agreed to follow mexico's rule. If they weren't happy, they could just... leave.

Instead they choose to act like the so bad sneaky jews you're always calling out. The "biggest economy" bs also doesn't make sense at all, that's like saying I can come to your house, kill your family and make it mine by the justification that'll be renovating the building and filling in with more people.

WE

 

[your personality]

it's a ruin bro, you don't know what you're talking, that's not how you tell how advanced a civilization is. You're just showing your ignorance here.

these "muds" above were once the capitol of one the biggest empires in the ancient world.

this one was the first city in the world as far as we know today.

Those are some really cozy pictures ngl

 

[Tenshi]

Those are some really cozy pictures ngl

Pompeii ruins when excavation had just began:

you see, very few ancient structures survive time, what does is buried most of the times.

 

[Deleted member 10314]

All ethnicels and whitecels should support this law.

 

[your personality]

Pompeii ruins when excavation had just began:

you see, very few ancient structures survive time, what does is buried most of the times.

Wasn't referring so much to the architecture but more the landscape in Egypt tbh

 

[Deleted member 20139]

what happens to mudbabies