Experiment when I read about how so-called "ugly" women feel about their life and days it makes me wish we could hang out and try holding hands or something

[Sheogorath]

I feel like I could swap the pronouns and this would describe how women behave towards ugly men as well.

There is mutual blindness in both directions.

Yet if we acknowledge it and experiment with looking past it... the "ugly" girl and the "ugly" guy could hold hands.

Yeah maybe neither is each other's ideal, maybe they're a little grossed out and disappointed initially, but so what?

I think we fixate on a romanticism of needing things to feel subconsciously ideal. But there will be challenges in relationships in the future, so why not struggle with one at the start?

If it's an LTR both of you will lose your looks with age, so making piece with your partner not being a 10/10 giga seems like something worth attempting.

Maybe it's too painful for it to work, I dunno, but it seems worth a try, no?

Like maybe it mutually fails and you can just be friends... though I think what hurtsi s the idea that it fails one-sided...

Like maybe Uguy falls for inner beauty of Ugirl to the point where her external form begins to seem cute and endearing to him...
...but then it doesn't work the other way around and she's still repulsed/depressed.

I guess it could work vice versa too. Ugirl sees inner beauty of Uguy, seems a twisted handsomeness in him... warms to him... but he's still cold to her face, distracted, etc.

I don't know absolutely which one happens more often. Maybe that's where the schism between places like here and ForeverAloneWomen occurs: a disagreement over the frequency and prevalence of the lookism and each gender's capability to look past it.

However closer to correctness either side is, odds are even the correct party will have distance in understanding the truth.

Maybe instead of trying to be right about the odds we should be focusing on finding solutions, like arranging to hold hands and talk amongst the uglys?

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When I read this post, it made me think "am I one of those guys who behaves this way?" I actually think I would be more likely to ask a less attractive woman if she would like help carrying a box, as compared to an attractive one. Hard to say why... like because I know attractive girl will have easier time finding help, or she'll be more hostile thinking I'm only helping to get in her pants?

An "ugly" girl with low self esteem might not think that, and just think I'm being nice, which I probably am (I like lifting shit and want to make friends even if it's not sexual, just very nervous around people)

but OTOH maybe she thinks I'm assuming I'll get sex because I think I'm in her league?

How often is this girl struggling to carry bags up stairs and getting ignored? Is it really often enough to conclude no man is willing to help her do it?

I'm sure offers come at a lower frequency, sure. Behavior adapts to that: the gigastacies never have to build arm muscle and can be lazy and try to move too much stuff in a single trip knowing a guy will swoop in.

A becky, who receives less frequent help, will need to partition her grocery bag transportation and be more responsible, relying more on her own agency since she can't take the less-frequent offers of male help for granted.

This in turn will make her think she's getting a lower off-potential than she really is, simply because she doesn't put herself out there as a damsel as frequently as stacy does.

 

[Richard Coper]

larp

 

[Sheogorath]

larp

tried that once got mogged by the other LARPers

 

[Lawrence]

the schism between places like here and ForeverAloneWomen occurs

That's part of it, yea...- and the other part of the "schism" is that incels want to lose their virginity even it's with no strings attached, whereas femcels want it to happen within a caring relationship.- (To generalize a bit)

On FAW, most of the women agree that they could lose their virginity to some rando from Tinder, but that is generally not appealing to them.- Because (a) it can be dangerous and (b) the guy isn't likely to help them climax.
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[imanuglysob]

the hole that wrote this would spit in our faces

 

[Bincell]

Lookism affects everyone male and female. The difference of course is that even if you're a hideous, disgusting subhuman looking female you'll still have literal ARMIES of orbiters begging for a chance with you. This is particularly amplified now with the internet. Meanwhile an ugly man gets nobody. The experiences of an ugly man and an ugly woman are night and day.

A ugly man can NEVER have sex without paying and if he's ugly enough even money won't cut it.
A ugly girl CAN seduce almost ANY man, she simply walks up to him and says "want to have sex"

A ugly man will NEVER have friends or be respected or treated like a human being.
An ugly female will still have boys getting crushes on her at school, will have a large social circle, will still date, will still have children, will still have sex, will still have a husband to cuddle at night, will still cheat on her husband with a bored attractive guy etc.

 

[GhostedPhantom]

When I read this post, it made me think "am I one of those guys who behaves this way?"

No, it's normies who behave this way. Foids think it's all men because only normies, especially Chads, are visible to them. We simply don't exist in their eyes.

the hole that wrote this would spit in our faces

 

[HarryDresden]

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I feel like I could swap the pronouns and this would describe how women behave towards ugly men as well.

There is mutual blindness in both directions.

Yet if we acknowledge it and experiment with looking past it... the "ugly" girl and the "ugly" guy could hold hands.

Yeah maybe neither is each other's ideal, maybe they're a little grossed out and disappointed initially, but so what?

I think we fixate on a romanticism of needing things to feel subconsciously ideal. But there will be challenges in relationships in the future, so why not struggle with one at the start?

If it's an LTR both of you will lose your looks with age, so making piece with your partner not being a 10/10 giga seems like something worth attempting.

Maybe it's too painful for it to work, I dunno, but it seems worth a try, no?

Like maybe it mutually fails and you can just be friends... though I think what hurtsi s the idea that it fails one-sided...

Like maybe Uguy falls for inner beauty of Ugirl to the point where her external form begins to seem cute and endearing to him...
...but then it doesn't work the other way around and she's still repulsed/depressed.

I guess it could work vice versa too. Ugirl sees inner beauty of Uguy, seems a twisted handsomeness in him... warms to him... but he's still cold to her face, distracted, etc.

I don't know absolutely which one happens more often. Maybe that's where the schism between places like here and ForeverAloneWomen occurs: a disagreement over the frequency and prevalence of the lookism and each gender's capability to look past it.

However closer to correctness either side is, odds are even the correct party will have distance in understanding the truth.

Maybe instead of trying to be right about the odds we should be focusing on finding solutions, like arranging to hold hands and talk amongst the uglys?

- -

When I read this post, it made me think "am I one of those guys who behaves this way?" I actually think I would be more likely to ask a less attractive woman if she would like help carrying a box, as compared to an attractive one. Hard to say why... like because I know attractive girl will have easier time finding help, or she'll be more hostile thinking I'm only helping to get in her pants?

An "ugly" girl with low self esteem might not think that, and just think I'm being nice, which I probably am (I like lifting shit and want to make friends even if it's not sexual, just very nervous around people)

but OTOH maybe she thinks I'm assuming I'll get sex because I think I'm in her league?

How often is this girl struggling to carry bags up stairs and getting ignored? Is it really often enough to conclude no man is willing to help her do it?

I'm sure offers come at a lower frequency, sure. Behavior adapts to that: the gigastacies never have to build arm muscle and can be lazy and try to move too much stuff in a single trip knowing a guy will swoop in.

A becky, who receives less frequent help, will need to partition her grocery bag transportation and be more responsible, relying more on her own agency since she can't take the less-frequent offers of male help for granted.

This in turn will make her think she's getting a lower off-potential than she really is, simply because she doesn't put herself out there as a damsel as frequently as stacy does.

Good quality post my boy; however I’m disgusted you compared her to us and even sympathized with her. My hatred of women intensifies because she believes she can relate to us or walk in our shoes.

 

[Lawrence]

An ugly female will still have boys getting crushes on her at school, will still date, will still have children, will still have sex, will sill have a husband to cuddle at night, will still cheat on her husband with a bored attractive guy etc.

With all due respect, reading FAW reveals that most of this sentence is not true.- Unattractive girls can still find sex, yes...- but they do not experience boys having crushes on them, and they have trouble finding a committed partner / husband.
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[HarryDresden]

the hole that wrote this would spit in our faces

This is why I could care less about her opinion

 

[ThreeInchesLong]

Good quality post my boy; however I’m disgusted you compared her to us and even sympathized with her.

Based applecel

With all due respect, reading FAW reveals that most of this sentence is not true.- Unattractive girls can find sex, yes...- but they do not experience boys having crushes on them, and they have much difficulty finding a husband / committed partner

Their problems cannot be compared to ours. Most of us are happy to be in a loving fulfilling relationship with our looksmatches, or maybe even someone a couple of points below. Them on the other hand, are only willing to settle for Chad. Obviously there aren't enough Chads to go around unfortunately for them.

 

[Bincell]

With all due respect, reading FAW reveals that most of this sentence is not true.- Unattractive girls can still find sex, yes...- but they do not experience boys having crushes on them, and they have trouble finding a committed partner / husband.
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Look into "juggernaut law" bro. I'm too lazy to dig up links for you right now, but it's been confirmed by STUDIES at this point, below average women have MORE active sex lives and more partners than stacies, more likely to have children than stacies and just as likely as stacies to be married.

Meanwhile ugly men have no sex lives, no partners, no children and will never get married.

 

[HarryDresden]

Based applecel

Their problems cannot be compared to ours. Most of us are happy to be in a loving fulfilling relationship with our looksmatches, or maybe even someone a couple of points below. Them on the other hand, are only willing to settle for Chad. Obviously there aren't enough Chads to go around unfortunately for them.

That’s the problem. That’s what I don’t understand. I hate them and I hope they die

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

ugly women are actively head-hunted for marriage once they reach their late twenties

this is because there's a large contingent of men that wants to marry no matter what once they get older, nothing matters besides getting married, even if it's to a single mom, or an ugly woman, or an older woman, whatever

so cry me a river you ugly bitch with a perfect escape plan

https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Bl...re_more_likely_to_be_married_than_other_women

 

[Mecoja]

All she does is mourn for not getting men simping for her like they simp for stacies. She's not lonely, she wants to be worshipped to benefit from having a hole.

 

[HustlaBayBay]

I feel zero sympathy for them. Unless they suffer from a mental disorder that makes socialising unbearable, they could SO easily find a man to love them.

Sex is a biological need for both men and women, but as the ones who have to do all the chasing in conjunction with the difference in hormone profiles, lack of sex has worse consequences for men and their mental health. The bottom line is this: men secrete orders of magnitude more testosterone than women do, and so males' sex drive is higher, which means that men are more willing to care for women who they deem less attractive than themselves if it means a steady supply of sex. The problem is definitely not men's inability to conjure feelings for women uglier than themselves, but the standards of women being comically out of order. I think we both are aware that male depravity is not in short supply lmfao!!!!!!!!

Since you mentioned FAWomen, I would just like to remind you all that a femcel subreddit literally had to ward off men from DMing "femcels" proposals for a relationship. It's fucking hilarious that you'd even compare the two. I said "I feel zero sympathy for them" before, but that's leaving a lot out. I've come to despise them, since it's them that should be wanting to copulate with horrorshows like myself, but, sadly, an ugly n***** like myself will never resemble the main character from their favourite romantic novel enough.

Don't let yourself fall for their trickery. It's painfully obvious through our lived realities that these same "ugly" women didn't pay unattractive men any mind. I put "ugly" in brackets because the only women I've found truly ugly to the point I wouldn't consider entering a long term relationship with them are 20+ years my senior and or "special" (down-syndrome and whatnot).

 

[Blackpilled_poorcel]

imagine feeling pitty for a woman

this whore would treat her looksmatch like literal shit. Meanwhile she actively simps for the chad for being a one night cum dump of him even with an %0.0001 chance.

the hole that wrote this would spit in our faces

All she does is mourn for not getting men simping for her like they simp for stacies. She's not lonely, she wants to be worshipped to benefit from having a hole.